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Today's Topics:

   1. ARISSat received spectrum (Roland Zurmely)
   2. Re: ARISSat received spectrum (jmfranke)
   3. Re: Technical discussions on AMSAT-BB......"an	endangered
      spec... (G0MRF@xxx.xxxx
   4. Re: SRMVU Keps? (Nick Pugh K5QXJ)
   5. Re: KickSat - a personal spacecraft of your own in space
      (William Leijenaar)
   6. Horyu-2 (Mineo Wakita)
   7. SRMVU Recording 10-19-2011 1032UTC (Carl Rimmer W8KRF)
   8. SRMVU Recording 2011_10_19_1221UTC (Carl Rimmer W8KRF)
   9. Prospero (Roger Duthie)
  10. Re: cost HEO (tosca005@xxx.xxxx
  11. Re: Prospero (PE0SAT)
  12. Did something change on AO-51?? (Jeff Lamb)
  13. Re: Did something change on AO-51?? (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  14. Re: Did something change on AO-51?? (Mark L. Hammond)
  15. Informal ARISSat-1 Poll (Clint Bradford)
  16. Re: Did something change on AO-51?? (Clayton Coleman W5PFG)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 12:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Roland Zurmely <py4zbz@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat received spectrum
Message-ID:
<1318966050.23651.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Today I copied the spectrum of signals received from ARISSat with an SDR-IQ
(and?homemade VHF / HFconverter  ) and SpectraVue. The frequencies listed
are the transmitted by satellite, and  Doppler effectis clearly visible in
the received signals, with higher frequencies?at the beginning and lower at
the end of the pass.
The noise generated by linear transponder and the return of the transmission
that I did in the UHF uplink are?clearly visible. The CW-2 signal close to
the 1kBPSK telemetry signalcan also be seen, as well as FM transmissions,
switching between voice and SSTV.

Please see here:

http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/arissat.htm#o

73 de Roland.

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 15:42:14 -0400
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranke@xxx.xxx>
To: "Roland Zurmely" <py4zbz@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat received spectrum
Message-ID: <7F2B294F02A841E3AB1D0EEA06C019C5@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Well done! It is nice to see someone using a mixture of commercial and
homemade equipment to make useful measurements.

John  WA4WDL

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From: "Roland Zurmely" <py4zbz@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 3:27 PM
To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat received spectrum

> Today I copied the spectrum of signals received from ARISSat with an
> SDR-IQ (and homemade VHF / HFconverter  ) and SpectraVue. The frequencies
> listed are the transmitted by satellite, and  Doppler effectis clearly
> visible in the received signals, with higher frequencies at the beginning
> and lower at the end of the pass.
> The noise generated by linear transponder and the return of the
> transmission that I did in the UHF uplink are clearly visible. The CW-2
> signal close to the 1kBPSK telemetry signalcan also be seen, as well as FM
> transmissions, switching between voice and SSTV.
>
> Please see here:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/py4zbz/arissat.htm#o
>
> 73 de Roland.
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:20:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: G0MRF@xxx.xxx
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxxx shashank.chintalagiri@xxxxx.xxxx
domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Technical discussions on AMSAT-BB......"an
endangered spec...
Message-ID: <2f991.42c1f6a2.3bcf47b9@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

and for the record, AMSAT-UK has a working design for a  29.45 receiver
with 42dB of AGC, crystal filters for the passband, audio  buffering /
filtering with a bonus 10.7MHz I.F. output.- Just in case you want  to add a
TX up
or downconverter for a linear transponder. - Downside is that  although the
board is small, it's not the cubesat format

Thanks

David  G0MRF


In a message dated 18/10/2011 17:59:20 GMT Standard Time, bruninga@xxxx.xxx
 writes:

> I'm  curious, as someone who was involved in designing
> a  nanosatellite.  What sort of payloads would be of
> interest to  the amateur community?

The A#1 Killer AP is something we have tried  twice on short li=ved missions
and which we already have ready for our next  mission, (but no launch
opportunities) is a PSK-31 transponder.!  It  is really more than you first
think:  Please  see:

http://aprs.org/psk31uplink.html

1) Normal HF PSK-31  uplinks on 10 meters where the Doppler is 14 times less
than on the typical  UHF downlink.

2) VHF or UHF *FM* downlink.  Notice FM.  This  means what EVERYONE see's on
their waterfall is EXACTLY whateveryone else  sees.  Thus, everyone just
jumps into the 3 KHz FM audio bandwidth  wherever they see an empty spot and
then can even see THEMSELVES full  duplex because they are transmitting
linear PSK-31 on the uplink on 28.120  while simultaneously seeing what
everyone else is seeing on the VHF or UHF  FM downlink.

3) Because you see what every one else sees, including  yourself, you can
SEE
your good signal or your bad signal, AND you see how  you are shifiting in
Doppler and can correct for it.

4) AND because  it is full duplex, you TX the entire pass in a steady stream
while looking  for QSOs in the downlink.  We could have 20 to 30
SIMULTANEOUSE QSO's  going on at the same time and even be talking to all at
the same  time.

It is the ULTIMATE satellite transponder,  because:

1) Full duplex
2) Minimal Doppler
3) You correct for  your own Doppler
4) 20 to 30 simultaneous users
5) Free software, no  hardware!
6) Vertical 10m antennas are IDEAL power-levelers.  When  overhead (and 10
dB
closer) the signal arrives at the satellite 6 to 10 dB  down due to the
vertical antenna pattern.

It's a win-win-win  mission.  Our attempt failed on PCSAT2 due to a broken
antenna  (pre-launch integrators and astronaut handling) and our attempt on
RAFT  failed due to not enough time available for the tests due to  mission
conflicts during a shor 5 month mission.

Please someone do  this.  It is TRIVIAL to do.  Just combhine a 28.120
PSK-31
receiver and a VHF or UHF FM transmitter.  Done.

Bob,  Wb4APR

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 8:55 AM, i8cvs  <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I do  remember that when OSCAR-10, OSCAR-13 and AO40 were
> alive and well  this net on AMSAT-BB was full of technical messages
> from W3IWI now  K3IO ,G3RUH, G3WDG, ZL1AOX and many others
> from wich it was possible  to lern the radio technique particularly in the
> field of RF and  antennas.
>
> By the way actually with the prolification of  Microsats,Nanosats and so
on
> the above people seems to be not anymore  interested on satellite
technical
> discussions and they abandoned the  net.
>
> Can anyone explain to me why ?
>
> Thanks for  any answere.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
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--

Chintalagiri  Shashank
Indian Institute of Technology,  Kanpur

http://blog.chintal.in
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 04:03:41 -0500
From: "Nick Pugh K5QXJ" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'SANDEEP MANI TRIPATHI'" <sandy.sandeep07@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'Carl
Rimmer W8KRF'" <w8krf@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti AB3OE' <sanjaynekkanti@xxxxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx 'Dinesh Cyanam KC2YQJ' <dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SRMVU Keps?
Message-ID: <018301cc8e3d$ffd63780$ff82a680$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I have been using object D and it does a fair job in keeping up with the
Doppler shift. The signal get up to 6db above the noise with fades in the
noise during the pass. I have a 15 db gain antenna and a system noise figure
about 2 db.

nick

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of SANDEEP MANI TRIPATHI
Sent: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 8:33 AM
To: Carl Rimmer W8KRF
Cc: Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti AB3OE; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Dinesh Cyanam KC2YQJ
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SRMVU Keps?

Great to hear from you regrding SRMSAT.

Thanks a lot, it would be great if you provide telemetry data for entire
pass.


73's
KF5HDB
Sandeep Mani Tripathi
Team SRMSAT
Chennai,India
+919884858514


*Life is a Journey.....not a Destination. Enjoy the Trip !!!*



On 18 October 2011 18:25, Carl Rimmer W8KRF <w8krf@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> This morning I initially used the lastest Keps for Object B and was able
to
> copy the CW telemetry, however, at Object B's LOS, I was still copying the
> signal.  I switched to Object D and was able to copy CW for another minute
> or so before LOS which corresponded with the Object D LOS.  Hopefully, I
> will be home for the next pass and will use Object D for SRMVU.
>
> The telemetry I copied was SRMVU C Z Z P C C at EN91ck for the 0043UTC
> (approx)  7 degree pass.
>
> 73,
> --
> *Carl W8KRF*
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 02:04:26 -0700 (PDT)
From: William Leijenaar <pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KickSat - a personal spacecraft of your own in
space
Message-ID:
<1319015066.95905.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Steve,

I don't agree that "the more people that get a taste of satellites, the
better".
AMSAT will then turn from quality into quantity, with a high risk that it
will get out of control (RF wise and launch space wise) with so many small
sat projects.

Now everything is scattered into small satellites (mostly CubeSat) and the
big satellites that can unite the international AMSAT community are pushed
backwards into the big crowd.
Every real AMSAT ham still knows about the AO10, AO13, AO40, FO20/29... even
after they stopped working. I wonder how many will remember all those Cubes...

I would more like to see that people get interrested in the technology and
try to get there ham license because of interrest in technology.
Nowadays a license is not really needed, just a dongle and software and you
can say you are working on satellites.
Nice for students to get "a taste from the small cookies", but not to "have
a big meal when you get more hungry", as there is not many big food
available (big satellites).

I really support the idea to help newcommers, but in my opinion it is
getting out of balance...
(I believe due to the commercial and publicity value of those Cubes...)

73 de PE1RAH
William Leijenaar


>>William, I have wondered about this, too.
>>
>>I have come to think of these as seeds.  Seeds that plant the idea of
>>satellites in the heads of people and make them want larger, better
>>(heo) systems.
>>
>>They won't last that long, so the idea of RF pollution isn't really
>>there.  And, if the sat sub-band can have a section devoted to these
>>cube sats such that they aren't everywhere, even better.
>>
>>The more people that get a taste of satellites, the better.
>>
>>--STeve Andre'
>>wb8wsf  en72

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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:46:10 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Horyu-2
Message-ID: <000301cc8e5d$182a9b90$0300a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-2022-jp";
reply-type=original


http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/horyu2jp.htm

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 07:28:06 -0400
From: Carl Rimmer W8KRF <w8krf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dinesh Cyanam KC2YQJ <dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>,	Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti
AB3OE <sanjaynekkanti@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SRMVU Recording 10-19-2011 1032UTC
Message-ID: <4E9EB446.4050207@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"

Recording of SRMVU (Object D) pass on 10-19-2011 1032UTC.  Locator:
EN91ck  7 degree max elevation pass.

Setup: SatPC32 with LVB Tracker; G-5400B Az/El rotator; Kenwood TS-2000;
Antenna M^2 436CP30; ARR MSP432VDG-160 Mast Mounted Preamp.

I did notice a change in the change in the Temperature Status during the
pass.  Initially, it was P but changed to X at approximately the middle
of the pass.   All other parameters remained constant.

73,
--
*Carl W8KRF*

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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 08:58:26 -0400
From: Carl Rimmer W8KRF <w8krf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dinesh Cyanam KC2YQJ <dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>,	Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti
AB3OE <sanjaynekkanti@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SRMVU Recording 2011_10_19_1221UTC
Message-ID: <4E9EC972.70506@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; Format="flowed"

Another 7 degree pass at 1221UTC.

73,
--
*Carl W8KRF*

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:29:41 +0100
From: Roger Duthie <rjad@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Prospero
Message-ID: <4E9ED0C5.1070607@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Some of you may have heard that a team in the UK are trying to
re-contact and old British launched satellite for the anniversary of its
launch (28th October 1971).

We've been given a licence to transmit and will be testing our
re-engineered ground-segment in the next fortnight.  The passes we are
going to concentrate on will be as far out west as possible, as to
minimise QRM from Europe.  Earth is a lot more EM noisy than it was in 1971.

If anyone in the UK wants to try and tune in to the downlink, you can
help ID any response we get from the old bird.  The passes are
summarised here:

https://public.sheet.zoho.com/public/rjaduthie/prospero-passes-in-the-next-for
tnight

There are other passes, though these are the ones which are out west.
We'll see how we do.

-Roger

--
---
Roger J A Duthie
m0rja





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Message: 10
Date: 19 Oct 2011 09:18:40 -0500
From: tosca005@xxx.xxx
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: cost HEO
Message-ID: <Gophermail.2.0.1110190918400.25213@xxxx.xx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=UTF-8

On Oct 18 2011, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
 With the occasional conversations going on with leo, nano sat, GEO, cube
sat, heo,?etc.? Just what does it cost to put these gizzmos up there??
Who are the major players who do the putting?? More and more countries and
private companies are developing this capability.? Competition is the cost
equalizer.? I mean what if North Korea said, "we can do that?for for
cheap".? To save face would say NASA , "step up"?? I, and we in the
majority do not understand all the ramifications political
and?otherwise?to be made in these decisions.? I do know we (AMSAT) have
some very smart and "well placed" people within the industry.? I hear the
term, "benevolent benefactor",? "pool our visa cards", "get lottery
tickets", etc.? I have yet to see a "dig in our heels" concept and make it
happen.? There is not a specific answer to these questions and ideas.? I
feel it important to keep this carrot in front of our nose.
>

Bob:

I'll let someone who knows more about this answer your question as directly
as possible. In the mean time, I would (sadly) point out that the US has a
law on the books with the acronym ITAR (International Trafficing in Arms
Regulations). The people who enforce it believe that satellite technology
counts as "Arms" (weapons) and so if we built a satellite and shipped it to
Korea (or even if we shipped it to the United Kingdom for that matter) we
would be threatened with huge fines and possibly jail time. Case in point,
AMSAT-NA had to pull out of the Phase 3e project with AMSAT-DL because of
the crazy way that this law is being enforced. I am especially sickened by
this fact because when I read the regulations in question, I see explicit
exceptions to the rule of what constitutes regulated "Arms" that ought to
apply to us. But I'm not a lawyer so what do I know?

73 John, W0JT



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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 18:38:20 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: rjad@xxxx.xxx.xx.xx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Prospero
Message-ID: <20111019163820.4A4A61A314@xx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


Nice !

I am not in the UK but would like listen for this old bird.

I found the following TLE on space-track

PROSPERO (BLACK ARROW)
1 05580U 71093A   11291.61144574 +.00002376 +00000-0 +56163-3 0 09176
2 05580 082.0410 258.8711 0544021 299.6964 055.1125 13.90307377003077

What download freq and modulation can we listen for?

73 Jan PE0SAT

On Wed, October 19, 2011 15:29, Roger Duthie wrote:
> Some of you may have heard that a team in the UK are trying to
> re-contact and old British launched satellite for the anniversary of its
> launch (28th October 1971).
>
> We've been given a licence to transmit and will be testing our
> re-engineered ground-segment in the next fortnight.  The passes we are
> going to concentrate on will be as far out west as possible, as to
> minimise QRM from Europe.  Earth is a lot more EM noisy than it was in
> 1971.
>
> If anyone in the UK wants to try and tune in to the downlink, you can
> help ID any response we get from the old bird.  The passes are
> summarised here:
>
>
https://public.sheet.zoho.com/public/rjaduthie/prospero-passes-in-the-next-for
tnight
>
> There are other passes, though these are the ones which are out west.
> We'll see how we do.
>
> -Roger
>
> --
> ---
> Roger J A Duthie
> m0rja
>




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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 11:23:17 -0500
From: Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Did something change on AO-51??
Message-ID:
<F391454A2DD887429274BBF982F3399E280889A280@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Is it just me or has something happened to the power level on AO-51
recently? Ever since Frank & Clayton (K4FEG & W5PFG) 'broke' it Monday
evening on the 2130Z pass (just kidding guys), my receive audio has been
'scratchy' like I'm not getting enough signal into the receiver. Nothing has
changed on my end and though I usually run mobile, I was sitting in a
parking lot for that pass instead of driving down the road, I'm just curious
if anything got changed during the reset.
AO-51 has been my favorite satellite since I got started doing them 2 1/2
years ago and I cringe every time she 'goes down' knowing that we may never
hear from her again.

Jeff Lamb,
NX9B (EM66)

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:11:47 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did something change on AO-51??
Message-ID:
<10482033.1319044307561.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

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Not that I'm aware of. Ironically, I also have an email asking if the power
was increased after that short telemetry session.

Every pass now with 51 is a bonus. It should be inoperative by all measures
with 2 of the 6 cells shorted.

73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations


-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Oct 19, 2011 12:23 PM
>To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Did something change on AO-51??
>
>Is it just me or has something happened to the power level on AO-51
recently? Ever since Frank & Clayton (K4FEG & W5PFG) 'broke' it Monday
evening on the 2130Z pass (just kidding guys), my receive audio has been
'scratchy' like I'm not getting enough signal into the receiver. Nothing has
changed on my end and though I usually run mobile, I was sitting in a
parking lot for that pass instead of driving down the road, I'm just curious
if anything got changed during the reset.
>AO-51 has been my favorite satellite since I got started doing them 2 1/2
years ago and I cringe every time she 'goes down' knowing that we may never
hear from her again.
>
>Jeff Lamb,
>NX9B (EM66)
>
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:09:41 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did something change on AO-51??
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Hi Jeff,

I assure you, nobody broke it on Monday :)    I simply had it in
telemetry mode in order to grab fresh telemetry (battery voltages,
temperatures, etc.).   The bird never went down; I simply changed from
voice, to digital, back to voice.

No change in the power was made, it's still running just under 1 watt (980
mW).

The crazy thing has been operating without a crash for what---10-12
weeks now?   I've lost track, which is a GREAT thing!  It's a real
surprise that the bird is running on only 4 out of the 6 original
cells in the battery, all the way through eclipse at full smoke.

It won't last forever...so enjoy it while it lasts!

73,

Mark N8MH
AO-51 Command Station



On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Is it just me or has something happened to the power level on AO-51
recently? Ever since Frank & Clayton (K4FEG & W5PFG) 'broke' it Monday
evening on the 2130Z pass (just kidding guys), my receive audio has been
'scratchy' like I'm not getting enough signal into the receiver. Nothing has
changed on my end and though I usually run mobile, I was sitting in a
parking lot for that pass instead of driving down the road, I'm just curious
if anything got changed during the reset.
> AO-51 has been my favorite satellite since I got started doing them 2 1/2
years ago and I cringe every time she 'goes down' knowing that we may never
hear from her again.
>
> Jeff Lamb,
> NX9B (EM66)
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 10:56:17 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Informal ARISSat-1 Poll
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My informal "poll" of Web site visitors to ...

http://web.me.com/clintbradford/Work-Sat/ARISSat-1.html

... were given a link to an informal ARISSat-1 poll: "Will You be Working
ARISSat-1?"

Almost 300 responded, able to choose multiple modes ...

YES - Monitoring the FM voice announcements, 249 - 34.16%
YES - SSTV, 132,  - 18.11%
YES - Transponder, linear, inverting - SSB/CW, 114 - 15.64%
YES - Telemetry, 99 - 13.58%
YES - Morse code beacon, BPSK-400, 66 - 9.05%
YES - Morse code beacon, BPSK-1000, 66 - 9.05%

No interest - sorry! - ONE, 0.41%


Clint Bradford, K6LCS

NOTE: The author of this message wishes to point out, in case it was not
already embarassingly,
ridiculously obvious, that the "poll" data is in no manner scientific in
nature. Results are offered
for entertainment purposes only.


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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2011 13:08:16 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman W5PFG <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>, Jeff Lamb
<Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Did something change on AO-51??
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Just to set the record straight, Frank/K4FEG broke it, not me.  I am
an innocent victim in this sinister plot.  I think he needs to be put
on double-secret-probation under the watchful eye of the other EM55
satellite operators.

If anything, I thought the power was increased after the telemetry.
After speaking with another on that pass who shared the same thought,
I emailed Drew to find out that the power is still set to just under a
watt.  I can't explain why I saw a signal strength "bump" after the
telemetry download, but I know what I saw.  Either way, that bird is
working great!

Kudos to the entire team keeping this satellite usable despite the
battery situation.

73,
Clayton
W5PFG

On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:09 PM, Mark L. Hammond
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> I assure you, nobody broke it on Monday :) ? ?I simply had it in
> telemetry mode in order to grab fresh telemetry (battery voltages,
> temperatures, etc.). ? The bird never went down; I simply changed from
> voice, to digital, back to voice.
>
> No change in the power was made, it's still running just under 1 watt (980
mW).
>
> The crazy thing has been operating without a crash for what---10-12
> weeks now? ? I've lost track, which is a GREAT thing! ?It's a real
> surprise that the bird is running on only 4 out of the 6 original
> cells in the battery, all the way through eclipse at full smoke.
>
> It won't last forever...so enjoy it while it lasts!
>
> 73,
>
> Mark N8MH
> AO-51 Command Station
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:23 PM, Jeff Lamb <Jeff.Lamb@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Is it just me or has something happened to the power level on AO-51
recently? Ever since Frank & Clayton (K4FEG & W5PFG) 'broke' it Monday
evening on the 2130Z pass (just kidding guys), my receive audio has been
'scratchy' like I'm not getting enough signal into the receiver. Nothing has
changed on my end and though I usually run mobile, I was sitting in a
parking lot for that pass instead of driving down the road, I'm just curious
if anything got changed during the reset.
>> AO-51 has been my favorite satellite since I got started doing them 2 1/2
years ago and I cringe every time she 'goes down' knowing that we may never
hear from her again.
>>
>> Jeff Lamb,
>> NX9B (EM66)
>>
>> Notice: This email message, including any attachments, contains
>> information belonging to Trinity Industries, Inc. and its business
>> units. ?It has been sent solely for the use of the intended
>> recipients and may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted, and
>> legally privileged. ?If you are not an intended recipient, please
>> advise the sender of the error and permanently delete all copies of
>> this email, including any copies that may reside in your deleted
>> box. ?The unauthorized review, use, disclosure, distribution, or
>> copying of this email or its contents is strictly prohibited.
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>
>
> --
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>
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