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Today's Topics:
1. Re: USB to serial interface (Frank Keeney)
2. Re: APRS through ISS and FD (ka3hsw(AT)att.net)
3. ao-7 vhf beacon report (Auke de Jong, VE6PWN)
4. 2M1EUB/P QRV 28/06/08 N.E.SCOTLAND IO87RJ (paul robinson)
5. Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Alan P. Biddle)
6. Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Robert Bruninga)
7. FW: [aprssig] TV Van with Air-Mast 4sale (Robert Bruninga)
8. Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Alan P. Biddle)
9. FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD
(Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
10. Re: FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Alan P. Biddle)
11. Re: FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Alan P. Biddle)
12. 2.4ghz antenna for AO-51 (James Cizek)
13. AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2003 Final Call for Speakers/Papers (G4DPZ)
14. Re: FW: [aprssig] TV Van with Air-Mast 4sale (Robert Bruninga)
15. M Square 436CP30 (Jim Danehy)
16. Fw: [CubeSat] Ground station survey (Graham Shirville)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 18:45:54 -0700
From: "Frank Keeney" <kg6jve(AT)gmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: USB to serial interface
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <000d01c8d7f7$8a9f5190$711e1eac(AT)bigpc>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
I'll second the Keyspan. I've been using them for years. No problems ever. I
have 2 of them.
Frank
Twitter: http://twitter.com/FrankKeen
Blog: http://www.unwiredadventures.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jim Heck" <jim(AT)milnet.uk.net>
> To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 2:05 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] USB to serial interface
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> There have been discussions on this BB in the past about
> the best USB to
> serial interface units. I seem to recall that there was one
> reccommended
> unit (not very cheap) which had the advantage of not
> reallocating COM port
> numbers each time the PC was restarted. I think it had 4
> serial ports. Can
> anyone advise which this unit was
>
> Or alternatively recommend a good unit?
>
> Thanks and 73s
>
> Jim G3WGM
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:56:49 -0500
From: <ka3hsw(AT)att.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: <APBIDDLE(AT)mailaps.org>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001a01c8d801$7250e450$0601a8c0(AT)parents>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Unbelievable... according to my Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged
Dictionary of the English Language, the ISS most certainly IS a satellite!
(the only possible quibble being that it was built in orbit, rather than
launched into orbit...)
Did the ARRL people understand that you were asking about contacts THRU the
ISS, and not WITH the ISS?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>; "'TAPR APRS Mailing List'"
<aprssig(AT)lists.tapr.org>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 3:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
> And the definite answer to the question is NO, the ISS is not a satellite,
> so it doesn't get you the bonus. I recall its status came up before, and
> is
> a bit anomalous. I did suggest a slight modification to the Q&A on the FD
> package next year to clarify what is not necessarily an intuitive
> situation.
> Well, there is GO-32 if you want to do 9600 baud, and there is certainly
> going to be less traffic.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
-bb
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 23:28:51 -0600
From: "Auke de Jong, VE6PWN" <sparkycivic(AT)shaw.ca>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ao-7 vhf beacon report
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <001501c8d816$af3f23d0$6400a8c0(AT)sparkys>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Has anyone noticed the mode-B beacon is behaving in an interesting new way?
Just now (over NA 05:00Z today) I recorded it sending a repeating pattern that
didn't seem to be CW, just a pattern of dits numbering 1 5 7 repeating over
and over. The tone quality seemed very "hash", and varied in width somewhat
gradually narrower and wider to about 75Hz a-la aurora.
I have heard this pattern before on a different occasion, but at the time i
didn't know for sure if it was coming from Oscar-7. This time I know for
certain that it was coming from Oscar-7! Also, that time, the sequence was
playing-out very much faster than it was tonight, so fast that I could not
make out the actual sequence, only that it was repeating, probably at least
twice as fast as tonight.
Does this signal have any meaning, or is it just a glitch brought-on by so
many years of radiation?
on an un-related note: I wonder how many hours the electronics have on them?
I doubt any modern satellite can ever touch the record-setting performance of
this old one .
As the old saying goes... they don't make 'em like they used-to! To which I
retort: why not?!? We've learned so much, and yet evidently, so little....
Auke de Jong
VE6PWN
DO33go
Edmonton, AB
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:43:09 +0100 (BST)
From: paul robinson <pushbiker2004(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2M1EUB/P QRV 28/06/08 N.E.SCOTLAND IO87RJ
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <621099.793.qm(AT)web23003.mail.ird.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi group ill be qrv once again from io87rj near aberdeen scotland from
28.06.08 for 7 days.
its not an easy location for stateside but possible,if you wish to work me
,please be quick as only a small window for USA! would also be good to work
some new calls from the states!! Europe window is ok! Ill be on all birds but
mainly ao7 ssb .i will also be 160 and 80m as well as some hf ssb! including
6m and 4m ssb ..check out the qrz web page under 2m1eub ,theres a nice photo
of the qth ,and of my dog ted.qsl is via home call 2e1eub.73 de paul
amsat uk/na member
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 06:10:29 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <AED53F92391246369E1F5FFFC32EE92E(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Morning George,
Attached is the text I sent. If they didn't understand that, I don't know
how to make it any clearer. I emphasized the distinction twice, as you can
see. However, the sticking point is with the classification of the ISS, not
how you use it. Or at least how it appears. We have at least one person on
the list who is actively involved with these decisions. I would hope, and
expect, some input on this after FD.
Alan
WA4SCA
=====================================================
Hi,
I received a question from a local FD committee concerning satellite
operations via the ISS. FD section 7.3.7 mentions the requirements to get
the 100 point bonus being via an "'amateur' radio satellite," while later it
talks about basic QSOs and does not use the phrase "amateur." Later on in
the FD info packet, we find "A QSO with the ISS does not qualify for the
bonus since it is not an Earth-to-Earth contact," but nothing about QSOs
between two ground stations THROUGH the ISS.
The question is about a QSO through, not with, the ISS using either the
voice repeater, or going through the APRS digipeater, which is currently
active. This would be a QSO between two ground stations exactly as you
would through AO-51 for voice or GO-32 or NO-44 for APRS packet, which would
count. The only difference is that the carrier is the ISS, which is not
really an "amateur satellite" even though it carries amateur gear. I have
asked on the usual packet and satellite forums, with seemingly authoritative
but conflicting answers and no definite sources.
So, does a digital QSO THROUGH the ISS digipeater or voice repeater count
for the 100 FD bonus points?
TNX es 73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:18:45 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: <APBIDDLE(AT)MAILAPS.ORG>, "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <5ED785EEC8C948C39F95C90DC73A3F1A(AT)ewlab.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> So, does a digital QSO THROUGH the ISS digipeater
> or voice repeater count for the 100 FD bonus points?
Yes.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:42:41 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: [aprssig] TV Van with Air-Mast 4sale
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <CED07A1D54E14447BAC463B57235F1A8(AT)ewlab.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The AMRAD Mobile Comm Van is now on ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=14024476
3070
It has 40' pneumatic mast and generator, and everything you
would expect from a mobile Comm Van. Its on a 4W drive Ford
chassis.
Its configured for HAM operations with all the TV racks removed,
and the interior carpeted and operating positions installed.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 07:48:24 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, <WB4APR(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <A9D0B134CE5640E6A95DE36F0519E50F(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>>> So, does a digital QSO THROUGH the ISS digipeater
>>> or voice repeater count for the 100 FD bonus points?
>>Yes.
>>Bob, WB4APR
No, according to those who do the counting:
=====================================================================
Hi Alan -
Thanks for the note. As the ISS is NOT a satellite, this would not qualify
for the 100-point bonus. To earn that credit, you will need to make a QSO
through one of the recognized Amateur Radio satellites.
Have fun at Field Day this year!
73,
Sean Kutzko KX9X
Contest Branch Manager
ARRL - The national association of Amateur Radio
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111 USA
(860) 594-0232
email: kx9x(AT)arrl.org
=========================================================================
It is a goofy ruling, but I find not new. Just widely unknown, because it
apparently makes so little sense.
If you have DOCUMENTED evidence, not hearsay or past usage, to get this
fixed, I would appreciate your giving me a reference. I am not being
argumentative here, but that is what would be required to fix this,
especially on short notice.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:11:16 -0500
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<A2862DA1C49F4145AF6C2A4528294035ACEC31(AT)NDJSEVS21A.ndc.nasa.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
FYI. Have fun!
Kenneth - N5VHO
________________________________
From: Kutzko, Sean, KX9X [mailto:kx9x(AT)arrl.org]
Sent: Fri 6/27/2008 8:03 AM
To: Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]
Cc: patrick(AT)wd9ewk.net
Subject: RE: Re: APRS through ISS and FD
Gentlemen-
At the request of several in the satellite community, I spent some time
last evening reviewing data presented to me concerning my ruling that
the ISS would not count for satellite QSO credit during Field Day.
After reviewing the data last evening, I have come to the conclusion
that my first ruling was incorrect; The ISS is indeed eligible for
satellite QSO credit during Field Day.
Please forward this to the appropriate forums. I hope everybody has fun
this weekend.
73,
Sean Kutzko, KX9X
Contest Branch Manager
ARRL - The national association for Amateur Radio
225 Main Street
Newington CT 06111-1494
Telephone: 860-594-0232
Fax: 860-594-0259
email:skutzko(AT)arrl.org
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:24:51 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: "'Ransom, Kenneth G. \(JSC-OC\)[BAR]'"
<kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <36A5AE309227417CBE2ADBF354F8C637(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Kenneth,
Sanity reigns, after all!!! Thanks to all who sent along things to get this
fixed.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:55:18 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <F3831B4604AE4C01BA56D9270C724E46(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bob,
No question that this issue is something which needs to be revisited and
clarified, with the input of the AMSAT users, over the next year. For now,
I will take the answer to mean that the ISS will be treated as any other
orbiting amateur relay package, regardless of where it is bolted. And
certainly for the 100 point bonus, which question started all this.
BTW, good to work you at W3ADO this AM. My antenna decided to swing 360,
and the phone rang from someone at the FD committee at the same time, so I
could not get back to you.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:15:10 -0600 (MDT)
From: James Cizek <jcizek(AT)yuma.acns.colostate.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2.4ghz antenna for AO-51
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <200806271415.m5REFAT100986(AT)yuma.acns.colostate.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I tried to be diligent and do my searching before asking this
question, but with no search ability on amsat-bb and google coming
up near empty..... here goes!!!
Are there any "popular" designs for AO51 antennas? I have my converters
(3 of them actually, a drake, a direc broadbcast TV converted with teftape
and a kit built down east microwave D/C) leftover from AO40 days. But
I seem to have dismantled or lost or sold or something to my dish I used.
I have various dishes from directv sized to starband sized. Is there
any particular feed people are finding to work better than others?
Is there getting to be a "common" setup for 2.4? Thanks!! -James KI0KN
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 09:34:33 +0100
From: G4DPZ <g4dpz(AT)blueyonder.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK Colloquium 2003 Final Call for
Speakers/Papers
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <4864A619.5070401(AT)blueyonder.co.uk>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
This is the final call for speakers/papers for the 23rd Amsat-UK
Colloquium which will be held at Surrey University, Guildford, Surrey,
U.K., from Friday 25th July to Sunday 27th July 2008.
Details of this and previous events can be found at:
http://www.uk.amsat.org.
Amsat-UK invite speakers, about amateur radio space and associated
activities, for this event. They are also invited to submit papers
for the "Proceedings" document which will be published at the same
time but printed papers are not mandatory. We normally prefer
authors to present talks themselves rather than having someone else
give them in the authors' absence. We also welcome
"unpresented" papers for the Proceedings document.
Offers of talks should be submitted as soon as possible; the final
date for full documents to be received is July 16th 2008 in order
that the "Proceedings" document be available to participants.
Submissions should be sent *ONLY* to G4DPZ, via the following routes:
Internet e-mail: david dot johnson at blackepper do co dot uk
SnailMail: QTHR from http://www.qrz.com
73
Dave
G4DPZ
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 11:31:50 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga(AT)usna.edu>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FW: [aprssig] TV Van with Air-Mast 4sale
To: <wa4ivm(AT)amsat.net>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <ED509A3B516E40FB9B9113455F54981A(AT)ewlab.usna.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> The link no longer works.
> This listing (14024476) has been removed...
Its there. The full number is 140244763070
Your (or my) email is word-wrapping the full digits as noted
below.
Just cut and paste the full URL... Bob, WB4APR
> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 8:42 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>
> > The AMRAD Mobile Comm Van is now on ebay:
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=14024476
3070
>
> It has 40' pneumatic mast and generator, and everything you
> would expect from a mobile Comm Van. Its on a 4W drive Ford
> chassis.
>
>
> Its configured for HAM operations with all the TV racks
removed,
> and the interior carpeted and operating positions installed.
>
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 12:08:13 -0400
From: "Jim Danehy" <jdanehy(AT)cinci.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] M Square 436CP30
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <6F5ECF27AC9B4604BB1A1419478C531D(AT)JamesPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I am putting together a 436CP30. I received it this week from M Square. They
sent 12 1/2 inch elements for the first director. After checking with M Square
I have cut off 1/4 inch per their antenna dimensions. I just wanted to alert
anyone who might also have recently acquired this antenna. Easy enough mistake
to remedy.
Jim W9VNE
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:53:14 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville(AT)btinternet.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: [CubeSat] Ground station survey
To: <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <026c01c8d876$4ad51c00$988252c1(AT)allgood.local>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi all,
This survey has just been circulated around the cubesat community and it would
be valuable to have submissions from all amsat ground stations.
For the name of your "institution" - just use your callsign!
73
Graham G3VZV
----- Original Message -----
From: James Cutler
To: cubesat(AT)atl.calpoly.edu
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 1:47 AM
Subject: [CubeSat] Ground station survey
Dear Cubesat Community,
At Stanford, we are conducting a survey on global ground station availability,
and we need your help! If you have a ground station, would you please fill
out our survey (~5minutes)? It will ask you about station locations and the
characteristics of the antennas (type and frequency). The survey is located
at:
URL: http://ssdl.stanford.edu/gs_survey/
User: gs
Password: stanford
Please provide input by July 7, 2008 if possible. We will make the results
available later this summer. We will be using the data for research on
improving throughput through networks such as GENSO.
Thanks for your time. If you have any questions or comments, please send me
an email.
Best regards,
--James
--
James Cutler, Ph.D.
Consulting Professor
Department of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Stanford University
http://www.stanford.edu/~jwc/
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