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Today's Topics:
1. Fwd: [Moon-net] MY FRIEND AL Lee WA4EWV SK (Sebastian, W4AS)
2. Students - Name That Spacecraft! (Clint Bradford)
3. Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01 (Michael Schulz)
4. Gpredict (Clint Bradford)
5. Re: Gpredict (W0TQ)
6. using 736 with CAT Control/USB (Tim Goodrich)
7. Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12 ? (Mani VU2WMY)
8. Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01 (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
9. Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12 ? (Mani VU2WMY)
10. ... (Kevin Deane)
11. ISS Back on (Kevin Deane)
12. Explorer-1 Prime - how long is the tracking tone?
(Douglas Quagliana)
13. Happy B-day, Sputnik! (Clint Bradford)
14. Re: Ham Sats Dead? (Clint Bradford)
15. Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12 (Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 15:34:38 -0400
From: "Sebastian, W4AS" <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: [Moon-net] MY FRIEND AL Lee WA4EWV SK
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Passing along some sad news. Al was very active on satellites at one point,
as well as meteor scatter, and EME.
RIP my friend.
73 de Sebastian, W4AS
Begin forwarded message:
> From: serge <ve1kg@xxxxxxxx.xx>
> Subject: [Moon-net] Fw: MY FRIEND AL Lee WA4EWV SK
> Date: October 3, 2011 11:02:15 AM EDT
> To: moon-net@xxxx.xxxx moon-net@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: serge szpilfogel
> To: Serge Szpilfogel
> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 2:45 PM
> Subject: MY FRIEND AL Lee WA4EWV SK
>
> It is with great sadness that my good friend Al WA4EWV passed away
September 30th,2011 at a hospital in Tallahassee Florida, following a brief
illness.
> Those who knew Al will remember his quick smile, kind nature & truly
wonderful sense of humour. I met Al & Bettie while wintering in Florida.Al
was very interested in satellite work & EME putting together a very nice
station.He loved chasing new countries.
> Al was a captain for Delta airline & flew a 767-ER from Atlanta to
Frankfurt & back every week.As he flew over Nova Scotia & Newfoundland every
week He said to me when I retire I will visit Atlantic Canada instead of
flying over it all the time. So he did & that is when I met Al & Bettie.
> Al had a brilliant mind when it came to computers & often helped me with
problems I could not resolved.
> Al was a great friend & a devoted husband to Bettie & an equally devoted
Father to his three children.
> He was taken far too soon, & too suddenly. I will miss you, we will miss
you.
> Rest in Peace my dear friend
> Serge VE1KG
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:12:35 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Students - Name That Spacecraft!
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NASA INVITES STUDENTS TO NAME MOON-BOUND SPACECRAFT
WASHINGTON -- NASA has a class assignment for U.S. students: help the
agency give the twin spacecraft headed to orbit around the moon new
names.
The naming contest is open to students in kindergarten through 12th
grade at schools in the United States. Entries must be submitted by
teachers using an online entry form. Length of submissions can range
from a short paragraph to a 500-word essay. The entry deadline is
Nov. 11.
NASA's solar-powered Gravity Recovery And Interior Laboratory
(GRAIL)-A and GRAIL-B spacecraft lifted off from Cape Canaveral Air
Force Station, Fla. on Sept. 10 to begin a three-and-a-half-month
journey to the moon. GRAIL will create a gravity map of the moon
using two spacecraft that orbit at very precise distances. The
mission will enable scientists to learn about the moon's internal
structure and composition, and give scientists a better understanding
of its origin. Accurate knowledge of the moon's gravity also could be
used to help choose future landing sites.
"A NASA mission to the moon is one of the reasons why I am a scientist
today," said GRAIL Principal Investigator Maria Zuber from the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in Cambridge. "My hope is
that GRAIL motivates young people today towards careers in science,
math and technology. Getting involved with naming our two GRAIL
spacecraft could inspire their interest not only in space exploration
but in the sciences, and that's a good thing."
Zuber and former astronaut Sally Ride of Sally Ride Science in San
Diego will chair the final round of judging. Sally Ride Science is
the lead for GRAIL's MoonKAM program, which enables students to task
cameras aboard the two GRAIL spacecraft to take close-up views of the
lunar surface.
NASA's Jet Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena, Calif., manages the
GRAIL mission. GRAIL is part of the Discovery Program managed at
NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala. Lockheed
Martin Space Systems in Denver built the spacecraft.
For contest rules and more information, visit:
http://grail.nasa.gov/contest
The public can email questions to:
grailcontest@xxx.xxxx.xxx
For more information about GRAIL, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/grail
For more information about MoonKAM, visit:
https://moonkam.ucsd.edu/
-end-
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 16:03:02 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01
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On Mon, 2011-10-03 at 14:51 -0400, Sebastian, W4AS wrote:
> Good points Mike.
>
> I agree that not everyone on a satellite pass is interested in working the
'rare' grid.
>
> However if someone goes to the trouble of setting up a portable station
for the benefit of
> others to grab a new grid, I think those users who aren't interested in
chasing grids should
> standby while the others attempt to make contact with that station. After
all, with the short
> pass on the LEO birds, there isn't much time to do anything else; unless
you get on during the
> early morning hours, or during the middle of the day when the activity
isn't as high as on the
> weekends and you can actually have a 10 minute QSO with someone.
>
Ah yes .. those early morning 5 am passes :). Been there, done that. I
guess what I meant by mentioning the other stations who don't care for
that grid is that it doesn't make it easier. There are many things, one
other being regular ops trying to work 10 or more contacts per pass
without giving others a chance. I usually sit back after 3 or so and
just listen if somebody is calling me.
> As far as the linear birds are concerned, I have a Yaesu FT-847 that's
dedicated for satellites.
> It's interesting that most of the time I get on the satellites, is on the
FM birds! Unfortunately,
> that's because most of the time I get on the linear birds, there's either
no one on there, or perhaps
> just one other station.
Hey I just checked. We worked on FO-29 :). But I know what you mean. I
have a TS-2000 sitting here just for satellite stuff and it doesn't get
used as much as I would like which sometimes makes me question the
investment. But as soon as I had another nice QSO on VO-52 or FO-29
(AO-7 seems to be a challenge with my ant setup) all is forgotten and I
know why I bought it. And AO-51 is the only FM bird I use at the moment
given that birdie problem on SO-50 and AO-27.
> It's funny that many times when I do make a contact on a linear bird, the
other station wants to
> just follow the FM procedure of exchanging grids, and not much else, even
though they still have
> a lot of time left in the footprint. I personally like to chew the rag on
a linear bird (and on HF),
> but that doesn't happen very often on the satellites.
I hear ya. But isn't it up to us then to promote the idea that one QSO
per pass is ok and not lost opportunity?
> While we can all continue to hope for a HEO, and try to encourage those
who do have the gear to get on
> the linear birds; the fact is the FM birds are a victim of their own
success.
Agreed. Now the question again becomes as to why. Is it because there is
so much information out there that tells people all they need is a HT
and an Arrow antenna and off they go, or should we indeed focus more on
operating practice on top of that?
Fact of the matter is, at times it is not bearable and I simply turn the
radio off when the situation on an FM bird get too much out of hand.
73 Mike K5TRI
Common Sense isn't that common anymore.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:36:57 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gpredict
Message-ID: <5EBD3A6A-0037-404D-904B-E9AD06E742E0@xxx.xxx>
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I need a couple user comments regarding Gpredict, please. A friend just told
me it needed to be
added to my TRACKING page at ...
http://web.me.com/clintbradford/Work-Sat/Tracking.html
... and I just cannot devote time to play with it until late in the week.
Easy to install?
Easy to enter current location?
Painless Keplerian data updates - and able to choose WHICH Kep data you want
to use?
MANY thanks!
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 18:05:22 -0500
From: W0TQ <w0tq@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Gpredict
Message-ID: <20111003180522.4f4db80e.w0tq@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
I have never had any issues. I like it because it is cross platform, only
one thing to keep current on.
But;
Easy to install? Yep
Easy to enter current location? Fairly easy, though not obvious for everyone.
Painless Keplerian data updates - and able to choose WHICH Kep data you want
to use? Yes
Lou W0TQ
On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 15:36:57 -0700
Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> I need a couple user comments regarding Gpredict, please. A friend just
told me it needed to be
> added to my TRACKING page at ...
>
> http://web.me.com/clintbradford/Work-Sat/Tracking.html
>
> ... and I just cannot devote time to play with it until late in the week.
>
> Easy to install?
>
> Easy to enter current location?
>
> Painless Keplerian data updates - and able to choose WHICH Kep data you
want to use?
>
> MANY thanks!
>
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> 909-241-7666
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 19:04:20 -0700
From: "Tim Goodrich" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] using 736 with CAT Control/USB
Message-ID: <019b01cc8239$ee80ffc0$cb82ff40$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi all,
I just bought a Yaesu 736 and am interested in doing some work on the
satellites with SatPC. Can you tell me what most people use to connect the
736 to a USB port to do CAT control? I know there's an issue with TTL levels
and I also know not to use the prolific chip set.
Thanks!
Tim
K6TW
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 07:37:52 +0530
From: Mani VU2WMY <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
To: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12 ?
Message-ID: <201110040208.p94289n3086229@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"
Hi Bill and Dinesh,
I was a part of the ISRO team that conducted the Thermal Vacuum,
vibration and other environmental tests for both Jugnu and SRMSat.
I was able to receive the signals from both the satellites, while they
were here in my cetre during the above mentioned test. I even used
Funcube Dongle to receive and decode the telemetry CW data.
Frequencies:
SRMSat: Payload down link and CW Beacon on the same frequency -
437.425 (10dbm)
Jugnu: CW Beacon - 437.275 (17dbm)
Pay load - 437.505
73 de
Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile: 91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
isrohams@xxxxx.xxx
Quoting Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> Hi Dinesh,
>
> Perhaps some clarifications are in order.
>
> The IARU has frequency coordinated SRMSAT at 437.425MHz for the down
> link with no mention of coordination of the uplink. The link you
> provided says the downlink is 434.5 MHz which puts it outside the
> 435-438 MHz satellite band. Additionally, it mentions an uplink at
> 145.8 MHz. right at the lower edge of the 145.8 to 146 MHz satellite
> band.
>
> The referenced web site, www.srmsat.in, is not functional, so recent
> information is not available there. Do you have any other reference
> links?
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
>
>
> On 10/3/2011 7:54 AM, Dinesh Cyanam wrote:
>> Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti, AB3OE, confirmed that SRMSAT has passed all the
>> required tests and is now at ISRO's spaceport, Sriharikota, ready for the
>> Oct 12th launch.
>> The downlink and ground station details for SRMSAT can be found on AB3OE's
>> page here:
>>
http://srmuniv.academia.edu/SSN/Papers/149827/Ground_Station_Design_for_a_Nano
_Satellite
>>
>> At the moment, I have no information about JUGNU. Will keep you all posted
>> as and when I get more details.
>>
>> 73
>> Dinesh Cyanam
>> KC2YQJ<dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:44:36 +0100 (BST)
>>> From: "Trevor ."<m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] JUGNU and SRMSAT - Ootober 12 ?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1316997876.96255.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> JUGNU is listed on Gunters Space page with a possible launch date of
>>> October 12. It's beacon frequency is given as 435.68 MHz
>>>
>>> JUGNU Frequency
>>> http://www.iitk.ac.in/me/jugnu/freq_coord.htm
>>>
>>> SRMSAT is listed as being on the same launch and is understood to have a
2m
>>> control uplink and 70cm downlink.
>>>
>>> SRM University Ham Exam
>>>
>>>
http://chennaihams.blogspot.com/2010/03/asol-exam-conducted-at-srm-university.
html
>>>
>>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>>>
>>>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 21:45:34 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'amsat-bb BBs'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01
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Mike,
I find myself calling in the pile on HF on occasion (I'm working on
helping my HF signal this week). Getting through on satellite is much
easier and faster. Back when we had AO-13 and AO-10 we also had AO-21 (FM
Bird). The FM bird was pretty much the same in those days. You are correct
it is a lot like contesting. I actually enjoy the quick exchange format of
the FM birds. I really don't understand why other folks feel the need to
complain about it-- if you like it join us -- if it's not your cup of tea,
there are many other facets of Ham radio available.
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Michael Schulz
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 9:59 AM
To: amsat-bb BBs
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 pass at 22:06 UTC 2011-10-01
Hi,
While I do agree with the below, one thing we should keep in mind though is
that there's a difference
between a pile-up on HF and on an FM sat. Not everybody on the sat may be
actually interested in
working that particular station so we also have to give those some room (in
that 10 minute pass). On
HF the time it takes to work the pile-up is usually a lot longer than that.
One thing I'd be interested to explore though would be how many of the folks
that work the FM sats
regularly actually do work DX on HF and often find themselves in a pile-up
trying to get through
quick and clean. This is out of pure interest and may help make it easier
for some.
The other problem is that before the madness starts, there are always other
stations already working
contacts before the "rare grid" station comes into the footprint.
Of course the best solution would be to get on the linear birds, we all win
the lottery so that we can launch
another Phase III sat or two and it would'nt be a problem anymore. (Ok, ok
.. just teasing).
73 Mike K5TRI
On Oct 2, 2011, at 4:09 PM, James Duffey wrote:
> Sebastion - Good points. Here are some more.
>
> The best contest and pileup ops are those that get it right the first
time. If you ever see a video of a high rate contest station or DXpedition
it doesn't seem like they are going that fast, but they are doing rates of
120+. They use their exchanges effectively.
>
> Anyone can improve their rate. Always use phonetics. If you get part of a
call give a report and get his call when he gives his report. Use numbers
instead of decades, that is say six five instead of sixty five. Minimize the
chit chat. These procedures lead to getting the exchanges and calls right
with a minimum of exchanges.
>
> Example:
> ...
>
> TU QRZ Kilo Kilo Six Mike Charlie
>
> ...Pileup...
>
> Four Alpha Sierra Delta Mike Six Five
>
> Kilo Kilo Six Mike Charlie QSL Echo Lima Eight Four Whiskey Four
Alpha Sierra
>
> Whiskey Four Alpha Sierra TU QRZ Kilo Kilo Six Mike Charlie
>
> pileup
>
> repeat
>
> If you have to call CQ more than once it isn't a pileup. :^)=
>
> Of course you can't control what the other guy sends, but you can control
what you send and the tempo of the whole exchange, which is what it takes to
make a lot of QSOs in a short time. It is easy to get overwhelmed, and that
is OK, but don't let the pileup know.
>
> Fills take up a lot of time and anything you can do to minimize it with
good operating practices will improve rate. This procedure also satisfies
those, mostly weak signal ops, who want a valid QSO to consist of both
stations copying both calls, a significant piece of information (grid
square), and then confirming that the information has been exchanged. This
is a valid point, although many, particularly on HF do not necessarily
agree.
>
> CW simplifies things a bit, plus there are fewer calling.
>
> Of course the real problem is getting newcomers to move up to linear
satellites where multiple QSOs can be supported. - DUffey KK6MC
>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 08:29:41 +0530
From: Mani VU2WMY <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
To: "BB, AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12 ?
Message-ID: <201110040300.p94300nV088306@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Bill and Dinesh,
I was a part of the ISRO team that conducted the Thermal Vacuum,
vibration and other environmental tests for both Jugnu and SRMSat.
I was able to receive the signals from both the satellites, while they
were here in my cetre during the above mentioned test. I even used
Funcube Dongle to receive and decode the telemetry CW data.
Frequencies:
SRMSat: Payload down link and CW Beacon on the same frequency -
437.425 (10dbm)
Jugnu: CW Beacon - 437.275 (17dbm)
Pay load - 437.505
73 de
Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile: 91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
isrohams@xxxxx.xxx
Quoting Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>:
> Hi Dinesh,
>
> Perhaps some clarifications are in order.
>
> The IARU has frequency coordinated SRMSAT at 437.425MHz for the down
> link with no mention of coordination of the uplink. The link you
> provided says the downlink is 434.5 MHz which puts it outside the
> 435-438 MHz satellite band. Additionally, it mentions an uplink at
> 145.8 MHz. right at the lower edge of the 145.8 to 146 MHz satellite
> band.
>
> The referenced web site, www.srmsat.in, is not functional, so recent
> information is not available there. Do you have any other reference
> links?
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
>
>
> On 10/3/2011 7:54 AM, Dinesh Cyanam wrote:
>> Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti, AB3OE, confirmed that SRMSAT has passed all the
>> required tests and is now at ISRO's spaceport, Sriharikota, ready for the
>> Oct 12th launch.
>> The downlink and ground station details for SRMSAT can be found on AB3OE's
>> page here:
>>
http://srmuniv.academia.edu/SSN/Papers/149827/Ground_Station_Design_for_a_Nano
_Satellite
>>
>> At the moment, I have no information about JUGNU. Will keep you all posted
>> as and when I get more details.
>>
>> 73
>> Dinesh Cyanam
>> KC2YQJ<dinesh@xxxxxx.xxx>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Message: 7
>>> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:44:36 +0100 (BST)
>>> From: "Trevor ."<m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] JUGNU and SRMSAT - Ootober 12 ?
>>> Message-ID:
>>> <1316997876.96255.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>>>
>>> JUGNU is listed on Gunters Space page with a possible launch date of
>>> October 12. It's beacon frequency is given as 435.68 MHz
>>>
>>> JUGNU Frequency
>>> http://www.iitk.ac.in/me/jugnu/freq_coord.htm
>>>
>>> SRMSAT is listed as being on the same launch and is understood to have a
2m
>>> control uplink and 70cm downlink.
>>>
>>> SRM University Ham Exam
>>>
>>>
http://chennaihams.blogspot.com/2010/03/asol-exam-conducted-at-srm-university.
html
>>>
>>> 73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 20:35:59 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ...
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I find myself calling in the pile on HF on occasion (I'm working on
helping my HF signal this week). Getting through on satellite is much
easier and faster. Back when we had AO-13 and AO-10 we also had AO-21 (FM
Bird). The FM bird was pretty much the same in those days. You are correct
it is a lot like contesting. I actually enjoy the quick exchange format of
the FM birds. I really don't understand why other folks feel the need to
complain about it-- if you like it join us -- if it's not your cup of tea,
there are many other facets of Ham radio available.
73,
Joe kk0sd
YEAH!
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 22:59:10 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ISS Back on
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Looks like its back on AND I got a new cable for my TNC yeaaaa!!! Hope to
see some people Not Beacons!
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 02:12:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Douglas Quagliana <dquagliana@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Explorer-1 Prime - how long is the tracking tone?
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According to the Explorer-1 Prime operations web page at
http://ssel.montana.edu/e1p/operations/
the satellite will transmit a 2200 Hertz tracking tone before each FSK AX.25
packet is transmitted.
What is the duration of the tracking tone? one second? ten seconds?
Does anyone have a sample recordings of the tracking tone and beacon?
Douglas KA2UPW/5
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 00:31:20 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Happy B-day, Sputnik!
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It was October 4, 1957, when the Russians successfully launched SPUTNIK.
Clint Bradford
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2011 01:17:35 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Sats Dead?
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>> ... I don't think much of "education" as a reason for hamsats ...
I am a school tech support volunteer for NASA and the ARISS program. I am
glad to see that we received more than 100 applications for five slots for
ISS contacts the first part of next year. That means there are more than 100
principals and more than 200 teachers who are exposing their thousands of
students to this aspect of amateur radio. An upcoming ARISS contact in San
Diego alone will have 480 students and 40 educators in the room.
And there are many educators "using" and including the FM LEOs and related
topics in their lesson plans.
>> ... It had some value a few decades ago but much less now with an
internet where kids can surf far more interesting information then whatever
ham radio has to offer ...
I hear this "The Internet is killing amateur radio ... " allegation all over
the place. Never any facts or evidence is ever offered ... a great teacher
can stimulate a classroom ,,,
>> ... I was President of a local school board ... and while educators would
take space station contacts because that is what they do...the educational
value was rated as low...and I think it is ...
Wow ... Why would a similar district have wonderful lesson plans and get
excited about this technology for their students - while yours found it
boring?
>> ... Really there is "nothing" unique about talking to the astronauts on
ISS using ham radio either directly or through a telebridge ...
We're really on opposite sides here. You cannot tell that to the 600+
audiences of assembled kids that have participated in the ARISS contacts.
Pick out ANY YouTube video of an ARISS project - and you will see joy on
faces ... that suppressed excited applause when the ISS astronaut first
responds ... and wild applause after the last transmission. I find it
difficult to believe that a quality educator could make that experience
boring and ordinary.
>> ... Why is AMSAT floundering? Easy answer...they have no product that
interest people with large investments in amateur satellite gear ...
I didn't realize AMSAT was "floundering." But put that aside - No, we don't
have a new HEO bird on HF for you. As soon as AMSAT can raise about US$550K
for one, you can fire up your sat gear again. But there's a value in the
LEOs - I have been invited to show 'em off more than 20 times each of the
past four years to clubs and hamfests. There IS an interest in working the
LEOs.
>> ... and what they do they have proven functionally incompetent at ...
I am just sitting here and smiling, knowing that AMSAT's "incompetent
engineers" have AO-51 up and running at almost 900mW for us - that's with
one dead battery cell, and another at about 0.1V ... running past its
expected life expectancy.
>> ... I should give them a pass on Suitsat2 because they dont have a clue
about how to deal with the Russians...well thats more incompetence.
>From what I researched on my own (as I am not on the ARISSat-1 team in any
manner), I saw broken promises and unannounced/unexpected changes in
scheduling/testing/deployment - hardly anything you could blame AMSAT for.
But excuse me - I have another "Request for NASA Surveys" from another ARISS
school contact that I need to send to NASA this evening ...
And so it goes.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:35:09 +0200
From: Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti <sanjaynekkanti@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: JUGNU and SRMSAT - October 12
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Hi Bill,
The ground station paper was written before the frequencies were
coordinated by IARU. As mentioned by Mr. Mani the downlink frequency
is 437.425 Mhz.
Apparently the srmsat website is down for the past couple of months.
The web-team is trying to get the website operational.
73
AB3OE,
Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti
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Erasmus Mundus Space Master (2012),
Department of Space Science
Lule? University of Technology
Rymdcampus 1
SE-981 92, Kiruna, Sweden.
Ph : +46738016907
Hi Bill and Dinesh,
I was a part of the ISRO team that conducted the Thermal Vacuum,
vibration and other environmental tests for both Jugnu and SRMSat.
I was able to receive the signals from both the satellites, while they
were here in my cetre during the above mentioned test. I even used
Funcube Dongle to receive and decode the telemetry CW data.
Frequencies:
SRMSat: Payload down link and CW Beacon on the same frequency -
437.425 (10dbm)
Jugnu: CW Beacon - 437.275 (17dbm)
Pay load - 437.505
73 de
Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
HAL Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-25082054/2598/2192
Mobile: 91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: wmy at isac.gov.in <http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
vu2wmy_mani at yahoo.com
<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
isrohams at yahoo.com <http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
Quoting Bill Ress <bill at hsmicrowave.com
<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>>:
>* Hi Dinesh,*>**>* Perhaps some clarifications are in order.*>**>* The IARU
has frequency coordinated SRMSAT at 437.425MHz for the down *>* link with
no mention of coordination of the uplink. The link you *>* provided says
the downlink is 434.5 MHz which puts it outside the *>* 435-438 MHz
satellite band. Additionally, it mentions an uplink at *>* 145.8 MHz. right
at the lower edge of the 145.8 to 146 MHz satellite *>* band.*>**>* The
referenced web site, www.srmsat.in, is not functional, so recent *>*
information is not available there. Do you have any other reference *>*
links?*>**>* Regards...Bill - N6GHz*>**>**>**>* On 10/3/2011 7:54 AM, Dinesh
Cyanam wrote:*>>* Sanjay Srikanth Nekkanti, AB3OE, confirmed that SRMSAT has
passed all the*>>* required tests and is now at ISRO's spaceport,
Sriharikota, ready for the*>>* Oct 12th launch.*>>* The downlink and ground
station details for SRMSAT can be found on AB3OE's*>>* page here:*>>*
http://srmuniv.academia.edu/SSN/Pap!
ers/149827/Ground_Station_Design_for_a_Nano_Satellite*>>**>>* At the
moment, I have no information about JUGNU. Will keep you all posted*>>* as
and when I get more details.*>>**>>* 73*>>* Dinesh Cyanam*>>* KC2YQJ<dinesh
at cyanam.net
<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>>*>>**>>**>>**>>**>>>* Message:
7*>>>* Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 01:44:36 +0100 (BST)*>>>* From: "Trevor
."<m5aka at yahoo.co.uk <http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>>*>>>*
To: amsat-bb at amsat.org <http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>*>>>*
Subject: [amsat-bb] JUGNU and SRMSAT - Ootober 12 ?*>>>* Message-ID:*>>>*
<1316997876.96255.YahooMailClassic at web27204.mail.ukl.yahoo.com
<http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>>*>>>* Content-Type: text/plain;
charset=utf-8*>>>**>>>* JUGNU is listed on Gunters Space page with a
possible launch date of*>>>* October 12. It's beacon frequency is given as
435.68 MHz*>>>**>>>* JUGNU Frequency*>>>*
http://www.iitk.ac.in/me/jugnu/freq_coord.htm*>>!
>**>>>* SRMSAT is listed as being on the same launch and is understood
to have a 2m*>>>* control uplink and 70cm downlink.*>>>**>>>* SRM
University Ham Exam*>>>**>>>*
http://chennaihams.blogspot.com/2010/03/asol-exam-conducted-at-srm-university.
html*>>>**>>>* 73 Trevor M5AKA*
*
*
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