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Today's Topics:
1. Office Closed (Martha)
2. Re: HRD and open source software. AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6,
Issue 540 (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
3. Re: ARISSat and Elk or Arrow (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
4. Re: HRD and open source software. AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6,
Issue 540 (Gordon JC Pearce)
5. EM25 / EM26 - Sep 29th (Gail A Mcdaniel)
6. Re: HB9DRV (Ben Jackson)
7. Re: HB9DRV (Gordon JC Pearce)
8. Re: HB9DRV (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
9. Re: HB9DRV (David Moisan)
10. Re: HB9DRV (Thomas Schaefer)
11. 2M1EUB/P ISLE OF SKY LAST FEW DAYS (paul robinson)
12. ARISSat-1 Silent? (& Request) (Stuart Balanger)
13. Re: HB9DRV (Michael Schulz)
14. Re: HB9DRV (Thomas Schaefer)
15. Re: HB9DRV (Joseph Armbruster)
16. My long absence (David Wing)
17. AO-27 Scheduler (David Wing)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 15:39:35 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT Office will be closed on Thursday, Sept 29th. It will reopen on
Friday, Sept 30th at 10:00 AM.
--
73- Martha
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:23:06 +0000
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD and open source software. AMSAT-BB
Digest, Vol 6, Issue 540
Message-ID: <4E83822A.8060700@xxxxx.xxx>
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I believe that Simon didn't "open source" the code because it relied
heavily on proprietary libraries and resources that he had license to
use but no license to publish.
On 09/28/2011 07:00 PM, amsat-bb-request@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
> And what has that to do with Open Source software? Let's assume Simon
would've opened the code
> and other's would've been able to contribute.
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 17:12:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
To: kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat and Elk or Arrow
Message-ID: <27eaf.6977289e.3bb4e7b7@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Hi Clayton,
During the better day time passes here in the UK, I can confirm that using
my "Elk" antenna I made many
CQ calls via ARISSat-1 and heard my own down link sometimes quite strong,
but also subject to changes
and breaks in transmission from the satellite.
I made two contacts one being in the UK and the other another European
station, both of these have been confirmed. I also heard other users but did
not get any response to my call even though I could hear my own
down link.
My equipment was a Kenwood TS 2000 and the Elk was mounted to track the
satellite.
Trust that this will help, good luck and trust that you will have some
success.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 22:23:33 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HRD and open source software. AMSAT-BB
Digest, Vol 6, Issue 540
Message-ID: <20110928222333.5161d43d.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:23:06 +0000
"Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I believe that Simon didn't "open source" the code because it relied
> heavily on proprietary libraries and resources that he had license to
> use but no license to publish.
I'm sure some suitable replacement can be found or made ;-)
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:26:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gail A Mcdaniel <gmcdanl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] EM25 / EM26 - Sep 29th
Message-ID:
<1317245185.77291.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I will be making a quick trip to Arkansas tomorrow and will try working the
following passes depending on weather...
SO-50 - 09/29/2011 @ 1726z - EM25
AO-27 - 09/29/2011 @ 1743z - EM25
AO-27 - 09/29/2011 @ 1919z - EM26 possibly EM25/26 grid boundary.
73, Gail - KB0RZD
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:47:09 -0400
From: Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Schaefer <thomasmschaefer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <4E83EA3D.80509@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 9/28/2011 10:52 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> I have to say the statement about people not having the experience,
> time and patience to maintain it is pure egotistical nonsense.
*snip*
> Open source code is always better because no matter how clever ones
> thinks they are as a programmer, there are always better coders.
DING DING DING! I think you nailed the issue on the head. No one wants
to admit that their code could be horrid. However, when opening your
code, you are running the risk of someone coming up and saying "Hey,
this is horrid, I rewrote it so it's ten times better." -- Plus there's
the whole commenting, documentation, etc. That's at least doubling the
workload.
I open source my software. Why? Because I /know/ my code is horrid.
Nowhere to go but up.
> If HRD was open sourced, I guarantee the satellite tracking piece
> would work perfectly for all radios because we would have fixed it.
However, that's a big statement to make. Getting an active development
community around you codebase is a bit difficult. There is no way to
guarantee such things.
--
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:34:17 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <20110929073417.de0fb6ed.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 23:47:09 -0400
Ben Jackson <bbj@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I open source my software. Why? Because I /know/ my code is horrid.
> Nowhere to go but up.
You know, I was going to say the exact thing. I know my code is pretty
horrible in places, but the more people that say "that bit is horrible, it
should be like *this*" the better my coding gets. I'm still just learning.
I've only been at it for 25 years, and I doubt I'll ever stop just learning.
> > If HRD was open sourced, I guarantee the satellite tracking piece
> > would work perfectly for all radios because we would have fixed it.
>
> However, that's a big statement to make. Getting an active development
> community around you codebase is a bit difficult. There is no way to
> guarantee such things.
Well the first thing to do would be to remove the existing radio controlling
code and offload that to hamlib, if it doesn't already...
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 06:26:26 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <BAY169-DS21B6444CF54D2F3D4E8DA48AF60@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
What's so wrong with Simon making a buck as the result of his hard work???
73,
Joe kk0sd
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Ben Jackson
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:47 PM
To: Thomas Schaefer
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
On 9/28/2011 10:52 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> I have to say the statement about people not having the experience,
> time and patience to maintain it is pure egotistical nonsense.
*snip*
> Open source code is always better because no matter how clever ones
> thinks they are as a programmer, there are always better coders.
DING DING DING! I think you nailed the issue on the head. No one wants
to admit that their code could be horrid. However, when opening your
code, you are running the risk of someone coming up and saying "Hey,
this is horrid, I rewrote it so it's ten times better." -- Plus there's
the whole commenting, documentation, etc. That's at least doubling the
workload.
I open source my software. Why? Because I /know/ my code is horrid.
Nowhere to go but up.
> If HRD was open sourced, I guarantee the satellite tracking piece
> would work perfectly for all radios because we would have fixed it.
However, that's a big statement to make. Getting an active development
community around you codebase is a bit difficult. There is no way to
guarantee such things.
--
Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 12:17:45 +0000
From: David Moisan <dmoisan@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID:
<166A8F21E968144697CA0F636ABB5029185EE520@xxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Thomas Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:53 AM
To: Simon HB9DRV
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
I have to say the statement about people not having the experience, time and
patience to maintain it is pure egotistical nonsense. Plus it completely
misunderstands the idea of maintainers of the source tree. Open source code
is always better because no matter how clever ones thinks they are as a
programmer, there are always better coders. If HRD was open sourced, I
guarantee the satellite tracking piece would work perfectly for all radios
because we would have fixed it.
-----
I've been lurking this thread for some time. My day job is in IT and I am
familiar with Linux. The devil is very much in the details. There are
several caveats I'm obliged to point out.
1) Depending on the problem domain, "thousands of eyes", could be just
"hundreds of eyes" or even "tens of eyes". And that is only if these eyes
are able to take the time to look at the code. That can be the hardest
thing to do unless you are very experienced and can see the bug jump right
out at you through intuition. There have been a number of security bugs in
open source code that have been only found years later. I don't pretend I
can download Apache source and understand it enough to make a change, and
try to commit it--and Apache is a very widely used and successful project in
a very well understood *and well documented* domain; most open source
projects are not so fortunate. There is much, much more to understanding a
project than by just reading the source, and many, if not most open source
projects seem to fail at this.
2) I said problem domain in my first point, and that can mean rig control.
Or framework design, libraries or even lower-level drivers. We don't know
what code Simon has used under license, but if it is only just rig control,
I would be very surprised. More likely, it is the framework he used and the
terms he had to use it under. That is a very important decision that a
developer must make early on. Usually, developers just use what's "out of
the box", like .NET or another common framework like Qt. That can affect
everything, including the licensing. Everything.
3) The GPL that many people advocate is a viral license. By itself, the GPL
requires that if you change the code, you have to publish it. Plus all the
other parts, which can include libraries, at least in some interpretations.
Other licenses like the BSD or the LGPL don't have this condition, but they
also don't require (by themselves) that the changed code be public. Some
code repositories, like Codeplex, will not allow GPL'd code for this reason.
There's been much controversy over the use of such code in libraries and
whether the license terms apply to the main code that calls them.
4) If you get through these points and you do change the code, no one is
obligated to accept your changes. Going back to my first point, of all the
users and potential developers that can see the source code, there are
historically only a small number of those that propose, and commit, code
changes. Sometimes, if there is a dispute between factions on a project,
the code gets "forked". Imagine seeing HB9DRV and HB9DRV-2, though it would
probably be called HRD and "HR Super Betterer Deluxe" or something like that
:) . That can be a bad thing to happen, particularly in a small community
like ours. I believe this, and other related issues, have crippled Linux
badly enough to affect its long-term future.
The best chance that the group holding HRD would have towards the goals of
open source, or at least what most people here seem to be asking for, would
be to publish an API (Application Programming Interface) and ABI
(Application Binary Interface) to its control interface. That limits the
scope of the developer, but makes it much more likely for him or her to
succeed. In other words, publish the specifications of the rig control
interface. That is still a big job not to be underestimated. But it is
much more feasible, and it may lead to a genuine standard in our field.
73, N1KGH
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:06:03 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <thomasmschaefer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Gary Joe Mayfield <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <F0E74180-C463-4B6A-B2B8-0B9E5BB46AA6@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Well I can at least guarantee the 9100 and 821 would work as I would fix it.
HRD has the nicest interface for the sat program. It just needs to be finished
Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc.
727.437.2771
On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:26 AM, "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield"
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What's so wrong with Simon making a buck as the result of his hard work???
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Ben Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:47 PM
> To: Thomas Schaefer
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
>
> On 9/28/2011 10:52 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> I have to say the statement about people not having the experience,
>> time and patience to maintain it is pure egotistical nonsense.
>
> *snip*
>
>> Open source code is always better because no matter how clever ones
>> thinks they are as a programmer, there are always better coders.
>
> DING DING DING! I think you nailed the issue on the head. No one wants
> to admit that their code could be horrid. However, when opening your
> code, you are running the risk of someone coming up and saying "Hey,
> this is horrid, I rewrote it so it's ten times better." -- Plus there's
> the whole commenting, documentation, etc. That's at least doubling the
> workload.
>
> I open source my software. Why? Because I /know/ my code is horrid.
> Nowhere to go but up.
>
>> If HRD was open sourced, I guarantee the satellite tracking piece
>> would work perfectly for all radios because we would have fixed it.
>
> However, that's a big statement to make. Getting an active development
> community around you codebase is a bit difficult. There is no way to
> guarantee such things.
>
> --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
> bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 14:27:32 +0100 (BST)
From: paul robinson <pushbiker2004@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2M1EUB/P ISLE OF SKY LAST FEW DAYS
Message-ID:
<1317302852.33180.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
LAST 2 DAYS HERE IO67VJ MOVE EAST SAT MORN ...QRV AO7 MODE A&B 145.947 AND
29.447 ?? AND SOME FO29 DEPENDS ON WINDOW AS IM IN A VALLEY,SO NOT ALWAYS
ABLE TO MAKE FULL PASS...DE PAUL 2M1EUB/P
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 09:48:55 -0400
From: Stuart Balanger <wa2bss@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Silent? (& Request)
Message-ID:
<CAOSqB0i3WupdUowM9zf54rsd_PUA_g8Na7N-E+syRXaSKv13=A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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*Hi All,
I was listening on the 145.95 Voice telemetry Beacon Freq.
@ 1310 UTC pass here in ENY & didn't hear a peep from
ARISSat-1 , & was wondering if it has gone silent?
My Grid Square is FN31! 73,.Stu (WA2BSS)
PS (a request)
Was wondering if someone has a Duplexer?
*IE a Box, on 1 nd is where the Coax gets connected, & on other
end is 2 short coax cable lengths; & 1 length goes to 2 meters;
& the other length goes to 70 CM1) (I have a Kenwwod TS-2000)
*
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 08:58:00 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <FF6DA48A-7546-4977-8B5D-642F2307C1AC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Gary Joe Mayfield wrote:
> What's so wrong with Simon making a buck as the result of his hard work???
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
Nothing, but that's not what the discussion is about ...
Mike
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:00:08 -0400
From: Thomas Schaefer <thomasmschaefer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Gary Joe Mayfield <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <E27D1C15-1A5C-4544-AE51-47DBFDF3A81C@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Nothing at all. My point was simply rebutting Bob's point that simply open
sourcing code makes it a mess. As well as the arrogance to suggest no one
else can understand your code.
The decision to go open source is the author's alone regardless of what the
Richard Stallman code communists say. I think HRD could have been better as
open source but that decision was only Simon's.
Tom NY4I
Principal Solutions Architect
Better Software Solutions, Inc.
727.437.2771
On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:26 AM, "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield"
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What's so wrong with Simon making a buck as the result of his hard work???
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Ben Jackson
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 10:47 PM
> To: Thomas Schaefer
> Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
>
> On 9/28/2011 10:52 AM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
>> I have to say the statement about people not having the experience,
>> time and patience to maintain it is pure egotistical nonsense.
>
> *snip*
>
>> Open source code is always better because no matter how clever ones
>> thinks they are as a programmer, there are always better coders.
>
> DING DING DING! I think you nailed the issue on the head. No one wants
> to admit that their code could be horrid. However, when opening your
> code, you are running the risk of someone coming up and saying "Hey,
> this is horrid, I rewrote it so it's ten times better." -- Plus there's
> the whole commenting, documentation, etc. That's at least doubling the
> workload.
>
> I open source my software. Why? Because I /know/ my code is horrid.
> Nowhere to go but up.
>
>> If HRD was open sourced, I guarantee the satellite tracking piece
>> would work perfectly for all radios because we would have fixed it.
>
> However, that's a big statement to make. Getting an active development
> community around you codebase is a bit difficult. There is no way to
> guarantee such things.
>
> --
> Ben Jackson - N1WBV - New Bedford, MA
> bbj <at> innismir.net - http://www.innismir.net/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:36:32 -0400
From: Joseph Armbruster <josepharmbruster@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID:
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This thread really spiraled out in all sorts of directions!
Anyhow, I have developed both OSS and commercial software. All I will say
is you don't have to look very far to find utter crap or really good stuff
in both worlds.
Dave Marhous' - What's your objective? Do you want a library to do your own
thing?
If so, it may be worth taking a stab at some of these. I have a little bit
of experience with all of them, so if you have any questions, fire away!
- If you're interested in writing your own tracking app in C, check out
xephem (OSS)
- If you're interested in doing some tracking-scripting, there's a python
wrapper called PyEphem, it's great and also OSS. See a brief blog post I
did on it:
http://libjoe.blogspot.com/2009/10/where-is-my-satellite-in-python.html
- If you're interested in writing your own tracking app in JAVA, check out
JSatTrack (OSS). Ganos library is very easy to use! I am using it in an
Android app I am writing.
If you (or anyone else) has questions, feel free to fire them off. I hope
this helps!
Joseph Armbruster
KJ4JIO
On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Michael Schulz
<mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 6:26 AM, Gary Joe Mayfield wrote:
>
> > What's so wrong with Simon making a buck as the result of his hard
> work???
> >
> > 73,
> > Joe kk0sd
>
> Nothing, but that's not what the discussion is about ...
>
> Mike
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:46:37 -0700
From: "David Wing" <david@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] My long absence
Message-ID: <005101cc7eb6$97d38070$c77a8150$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello to my friends on the birds.
I have been gone for several months and hope to be back soon. I've had some
hardware issues and I have to admit I've not been diligent about resolving
them as so many other things pop up that take my time. I think I can get
things corrected and be back on the satellites this weekend so I'm looking
forward to working you all again soon.
73
David
K6CDW
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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 07:50:24 -0700
From: "David Wing" <david@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Scheduler
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Has the schedule on AO-27 changed radically?
Here in the western US I've been used to being able to work AO-27 twice
during the early afternoon but now it seems like the transmitter operation
is during the wee hours of the morning. Has something changed in the last
few months while I have been off the birds?
David
K6CDW
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