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Today's Topics:
1. Re: HB9DRV (Greg Beat)
2. Re: HB9DRV (Michael Schulz)
3. Radio Shack Rotator Help (Keith O'Brien)
4. AubieSat-1 Launch information for 25 October 2011
(wersinger@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
5. Re: HB9DRV (Pat McGrath)
6. Re: Radio Shack Rotator Help (Jim Wright)
7. Partial remains of UARS fall in Canada (Rick - WA4NVM)
8. GPS position (Kevin Deane)
9. R: Re: HB9DRV (Francesco Grappi)
10. Re: R: Re: HB9DRV (MATEUSZ SQ7DQX )
11. Re: R: Re: HB9DRV (Dominic Hawken)
12. Re: R: Re: HB9DRV (Simon HB9DRV)
13. Tsh! (Kevin Deane)
14. Re: HB9DRV (Gordon JC Pearce)
15. Re: HB9DRV (Dominic Hawken)
16. Re: HB9DRV (Simon HB9DRV)
17. Re: GPS position (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
18. Re: HB9DRV (Gordon JC Pearce)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:17:53 -0500
From: "Greg Beat" <gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <000601cc7d4a$2903f980$7b0bec80$@xxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Excerpt from Press Release of September 19, 2011
Tampa FL, St. Paul MN, Pittsburgh PA - September 19, 2011 -
Mike Carper (WA9PIE), Randy Gawtry (K0CBH) and Rick Ruhl (W4PC) have
acquired the source and rights to the Ham Radio Deluxe (HRD) suite of
software.
All three principals have more than 25 years of experience with radio data
communications.
Rick Ruhl (W4PC) is the president of W4PC Software, Inc. whose products
include the PakRatt, PKTerm and Radio Operations Center software suites.
Randy Gawtry (K0CBH) is the president of Timewave Technology Inc. whose
products include the PK and DSP families of data controllers and other
commercial data products.
Mike Carper (WA9PIE) is an experienced Fortune 500 technology executive,
educator, and featured speaker in the areas of wireless technologies and IT
Service Management.
"After many years writing the HRD software it's necessary to take a break
and hand the whole project over to another team," said Simon Brown (HB9DRV).
"The support effort required has become more than I can realistically manage
- with many thousands of users, new radios and other hardware appearing all
the time and unexpected changes to the infrastructure used by HRD such as
QRZ.com I no longer have any time at all for other projects.
As some of you will know I have formed a company SDR-RADIO.com GmbH and am
now working in the Software Defined Radio arena with RFspace.
This is the technology of the future; a future which I want a part of.
In 2012 I plan to return to England and get back on the air, something I
haven't done much during the last 25 years."
The new owners of HRD are in the process of building a development
environment for HRD and plans to begin by addressing some of the bugs
in the existing "To Do List" for an upcoming 5.1 release. The 5.1 release
will be made available at no charge to registered users when completed.
====
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 15:42:14 -0400
From: "Dave Marthouse" <dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HB9DRV
Does anyone on this list have a working E-Mail address for HB9DRV the
developer of Ham Radio Deluxe? I would like to get in touch with him as I
have a few questions regarding the satellite tracking portion of the
software. Thanks in advance.
Dave Marthouse N2AAM
dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 15:00:29 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
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On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Pat McGrath <katya@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What is much better? I would like to try something else.
>
> I personally prefer Gpredict on Linux or MacDoppler Pro on Mac OS over
HRD's Sat tracking.
Gpredict so far the winner in my book. But that's just me :).
Cheers,
Mike
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 10:32:43 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Keith O'Brien" <n4zq@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radio Shack Rotator Help
Message-ID:
<1317144763.87954.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
I was given a Radio Shack antenna rotator, model number 15-1245A, that I
figured was good enough to turn my small Cushcraft Dual Band 3 element yagi
I sometimes use for some satellite work. But the rotator is need of some
clearing and lubrication. Has anyone taken one of these apart and can share
some insight as to what I might expect to find once I remove the motor and
gear assembly from it's housing. I assume the 4 large bolts inside the
bottom cover where you would attach the wires are holding the motor assembly
in place. Are there any ball bearings that I might expect to come rolling
out if I disassemble it? I looked for a You Tube video for some help but
came up empty. Figured the next best place to ask would be with other
satellite operators.?
Keith N4ZQ
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 13:54:43 -0500
From: "wersinger@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx <jm.wersinger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Dominic Hildebrandt <drh0006@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx>, Timothy
Marquardt <tam0013@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx>, John Klingelhoeffer
<jhk0003@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AubieSat-1 Launch information for 25 October 2011
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Fellow satellite enthusiasts;
We fervently request your assistance in receiving transmissions from an
upcoming satellite, AubieSat-1, immediately after its launch from
Vandenberg AFB, California, USA, 25 October 2011 at 9:52 UTC.
AubieSat-1 (AS-1) is an undergraduate - built CubeSat satellite
developed by Auburn University.
AS-1 is designed to transmit with a power of about 800 milliwatts on a
frequency of 437.475 MHz, plus or minus Doppler correction. The beacon
signal, along with telemetry, will be sent using A1A continuous wave
Morse code at 20 words per minute. Additional telemetry from the
onboard science experiment will use CW transmissions up to 60 WPM.
Based on the pre-launch orbital data provided by NASA, AS-1 will
activate after deployment at 12:21 UTC, 25 October 2011. At that time,
the sub-satellite point will be at 34.52 S latitude and 1.52 W
longitude over the South Atlantic Ocean.
Our predictions are that the first flights over the contiguous United
States will begin as shown in the following table:
Orbit AOS Apogee LOS General Locale
3 15:54 UTC >50 deg 16:01 UTC New York
4 17:28 UTC >26 deg 17:35 UTC Texas
5 19:07 UTC >48 deg 19:14 UTC California
This information will be updated should there be launch scrubs or
performance changes in the launch, and additional information will
be available upon request for specific locations. Reception reports with
data contents are welcomed to the following email addresses:
wersijp at auburn dot edu and tam0013 at auburn dot edu
An internet Echolink conference group is also planned to begin
one-half hour prior to launch and continue until about 30 minutes after
confirmation of the first receipt of signals from the satellite.
Information on the conference groups title will be distributed nearer to
the launch for interested stations.
Please email wersijp at auburn dot edu if you require
additional information and can assist in the reception and tracking
of AS-1. Thank you.
--
--------------------------------------------------
J-M Wersinger, PhD KI4YAU
Professor Emeritus
Director, AU Student Space Program
334-844-4223
Physics Department
Auburn University, AL 36849
--------------------------------------------------
"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
Einstein
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 12:57:27 -0700
From: "Pat McGrath" <katya@xxxx.xxx>
To: "'Michael Schulz'" <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Amsat - BBs'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <001301cc7d4f$af23a920$0d6afb60$@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
What is much better? I would like to try something else.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schulz [mailto:mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:04 AM
To: Amsat - BBs
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Simon doesn't do any work on HRD anymore and sold the rights to a group of
three who want to continue work on HRD. So the forum might be the best
source for answers (if there are still people willing to help). It seems
that whole thing drove a few people sour.
73 Mike K5TRI
p.s.: Thank god for open source alternatives that are much better anyway :)
On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:14 PM, (kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez wrote:
> There is a forum for HRD. Google it.
>
> Sent from my Adobe Flash and Java challenged iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:42 PM, "Dave Marthouse" <dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>> Does anyone on this list have a working E-Mail address for HB9DRV the
developer of Ham Radio Deluxe? I would like to get in touch with him as I
have a few questions regarding the satellite tracking portion of the
software. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Dave Marthouse N2AAM
>> dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:10:44 -0400
From: Jim Wright <wa4ivm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Keith O'Brien" <n4zq@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radio Shack Rotator Help
Message-ID: <4E827414.3020407@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I can't speak to your RS rotator specifically, but I would suggest when
you open it, have it over a big tub or bucket. I opened a Wilson rotor
many years ago and became instantly familiar with the ball bearings when
some stuck to the top and some stayed in the bottom raceway. Most of
the rest jumped out all over the floor.
Good luck.
Jim
On 9/27/2011 1:32 PM, Keith O'Brien wrote:
> I was given a Radio Shack antenna rotator, model number 15-1245A, that I
figured was good enough to turn my small Cushcraft Dual Band 3 element yagi
>
> I sometimes use for some satellite work. But the rotator is need of some
clearing and lubrication. Has anyone taken one of these apart and can share
some insight as to what I might expect to find once I remove the motor and
gear assembly from it's housing. I assume the 4 large bolts inside the
bottom cover where you would attach the wires are holding the motor assembly
in place. Are there any ball bearings that I might expect to come rolling
out if I disassemble it? I looked for a You Tube video for some help but
came up empty. Figured the next best place to ask would be with other
satellite operators.
>
> Keith N4ZQ
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 21:26:40 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Partial remains of UARS fall in Canada
Message-ID: <322A5F64A23D45A4B6CA9BF01B1D85AD@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
As you may now know, UARS left a burning ionized trail right over WA and
into Canada, where some of it crashed into a car. Here's a video about the
incident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgTyiaDmytw
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 27 Sep 2011 22:25:20 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] GPS position
Message-ID: <COL107-W3454E2CA98A5B3E586522383F10@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I know this sounds lame but anyone know where I can enter lat and lon and
get my location. All my gps does really is give lat&lon which is fine, but
all the things I have found you click on the map and it gives everything
with grid but I want to do the reverse, so when I am driving around I can
punch in my gps cooridnates and get my location /grid on the map.
Thanks for any help. :)
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:11:38 +0200
From: "Francesco Grappi" <f.grappi@xxx.xx>
To: "'Pat McGrath'" <katya@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'Amsat - BBs' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] R: Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <BFE27C6B9FBE436DBF11911E2D353A36@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
For me, (I'm using it since a long time)
SatPc32
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per conto
di
Pat McGrath
Inviato: marted? 27 settembre 2011 21.57
A: 'Michael Schulz'; 'Amsat - BBs'
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
What is much better? I would like to try something else.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schulz [mailto:mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:04 AM
To: Amsat - BBs
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Simon doesn't do any work on HRD anymore and sold the rights to a group of
three who want to continue work on HRD. So the forum might be the best
source for answers (if there are still people willing to help). It seems
that whole thing drove a few people sour.
73 Mike K5TRI
p.s.: Thank god for open source alternatives that are much better anyway :)
On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:14 PM, (kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez wrote:
> There is a forum for HRD. Google it.
>
> Sent from my Adobe Flash and Java challenged iPhone
>
> On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:42 PM, "Dave Marthouse" <dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>> Does anyone on this list have a working E-Mail address for HB9DRV the
developer of Ham Radio Deluxe? I would like to get in touch with him as I
have a few questions regarding the satellite tracking portion of the
software. Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Dave Marthouse N2AAM
>> dmarthouse@xxxxx.xxx
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:37:24 +0200
From: "MATEUSZ SQ7DQX " <sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
To: "'Amsat - BBs'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: R: Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <2E9D480F531749ACA17755485AF8B170@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original
Combination of Orbitron, WISP DDE and spid rotor driver by SQ7RO.
Work great with Win7, USB-COM adapters, TS 2000.
Matt SQ7DQX
-----Oryginalna wiadomo??-----
From: Francesco Grappi
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:11 AM
To: 'Pat McGrath'
Cc: 'Amsat - BBs'
Subject: [amsat-bb] R: Re: HB9DRV
For me, (I'm using it since a long time)
SatPc32
73"
Frank IW4DVZ
-----Messaggio originale-----
Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per conto
di
Pat McGrath
Inviato: marted? 27 settembre 2011 21.57
A: 'Michael Schulz'; 'Amsat - BBs'
Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
What is much better? I would like to try something else.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Schulz [mailto:mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:04 AM
To: Amsat - BBs
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 08:25:34 +0100
From: Dominic Hawken <dominic@xxx.xx.xx>
To: MATEUSZ SQ7DQX <sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
Cc: 'Amsat - BBs' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: R: Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <4E82CBEE.5010305@xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
All good, but the underlying question was about which open source
versions sat tracking programs were betterm and why, after Mike K5TRI
said 'Thank god for open source alternatives that are much better anyway'
Neither of those mentioned so far are Open Source, but I'd love to know
too - Mike, which ones are you using?
Dominic G6NQO
On 28/09/2011 07:37, MATEUSZ SQ7DQX wrote:
> Combination of Orbitron, WISP DDE and spid rotor driver by SQ7RO.
> Work great with Win7, USB-COM adapters, TS 2000.
>
> Matt SQ7DQX
>
>
>
> -----Oryginalna wiadomo??----- From: Francesco Grappi
> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:11 AM
> To: 'Pat McGrath'
> Cc: 'Amsat - BBs'
> Subject: [amsat-bb] R: Re: HB9DRV
>
> For me, (I'm using it since a long time)
> SatPc32
>
> 73"
> Frank IW4DVZ
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Per
> conto di
> Pat McGrath
> Inviato: marted? 27 settembre 2011 21.57
> A: 'Michael Schulz'; 'Amsat - BBs'
> Oggetto: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
>
> What is much better? I would like to try something else.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Schulz [mailto:mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 5:04 AM
> To: Amsat - BBs
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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--
Director
Deluxe Corporation Ltd
http://www.del.co.uk/
Tel: 020 7100 8982
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 09:48:25 +0200
From: "Simon HB9DRV" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "'Dominic Hawken'" <dominic@xxx.xx.xx>, "'MATEUSZ SQ7DQX'"
<sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
Cc: 'Amsat - BBs' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: R: Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <06a801cc7db3$0150eb00$03f2c100$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
There's Gpredict http://gpredict.oz9aec.net/download.php
As with all code - the best code is written by the user, especially with
something like satellite tracking where the theory and UI challenge is quite
demanding. There are many who can talk long and loud, but how many have
actually written working tracking software?
(I'm not getting at Dominic here.)
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
http://sdr-radio.com
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Dominic Hawken
Neither of those mentioned so far are Open Source, but I'd love to know
too - Mike, which ones are you using?
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 01:11:09 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Tsh!
Message-ID: <COL107-W25714BBA3F4D2C9622988183F10@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Just enter the cooridinates on Google maps LAMO!
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:50:44 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <20110928105044.08fc4034.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:17:53 -0500
"Greg Beat" <gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> "The support effort required has become more than I can realistically manage
> - with many thousands of users, new radios and other hardware appearing all
> the time and unexpected changes to the infrastructure used by HRD such as
> QRZ.com I no longer have any time at all for other projects.
Why not just open-source it? It's already free-as-in-beer. If it was also
free-as-in-speech then there would be a potentially far greater number of
eyes on the code, and a broader range of contributors. There's also the
chance to use existing work like hamlib in it, and avoid duplication of
effort on driving all these different radios.
I've never understood why so many in the amateur radio community are so keen
to share circuit diagrams, antenna designs and all sorts of other
information, but keep their software to themselves. In this case, it's a
no-brainer - HRD needs a lot of work, and there is a willing community out
there who would do it given the chance.
Proprietary software has absolutely no place in amateur radio.
--
Gordon JC Pearce MM0YEQ <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 11:16:02 +0100
From: Dominic Hawken <dominic@xxx.xx.xx>
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
Message-ID: <4E82F3E2.1050000@xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
On 28/09/2011 10:50, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2011 14:17:53 -0500
> "Greg Beat"<gregory.beat@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> "The support effort required has become more than I can realistically
manage
>> - with many thousands of users, new radios and other hardware appearing all
>> the time and unexpected changes to the infrastructure used by HRD such as
>> QRZ.com I no longer have any time at all for other projects.
>
> Why not just open-source it? It's already free-as-in-beer. If it was
also free-as-in-speech then there would be a potentially far greater number
of eyes on the code, and a broader range of contributors. There's also the
chance to use existing work like hamlib in it, and avoid duplication of
effort on driving all these different radios.
>
> I've never understood why so many in the amateur radio community are so
keen to share circuit diagrams, antenna designs and all sorts of other
information, but keep their software to themselves. In this case, it's a
no-brainer - HRD needs a lot of work, and there is a willing community out
there who would do it given the chance.
>
> Proprietary software has absolutely no place in amateur radio.
I understand your logic and thought process - I am a strong advocate of
open source having funded development of ApacheSSL in the past and tried
to do my bit, but that's a broad statement.
There's lots of proprietary software involved, from that included in and
with commercial transceivers to codecs to control software etc etc. It's
truly up to the authors to decide the licensing module and the user to
decide whether that fits with their ethos.
Open Source is a marvelous and vital part of Amateur Radio and virtually
everything else to do with computing, but commercial models have their
place too. In my humble opinion it's totally up to the user to make the
decision as to what they use, support and evangalise.
Dominic G6NQO
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:20:54 +0200
From: "Simon HB9DRV" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
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There are many reasons for not providing software source, in my case I doubt
there are many people with the requisite experience, time or patience to
maintain this.
FWIW and contrary to some opinion HRD has in fact cost me money over the
years, not the other way around. Also I just have no, and I mean no time for
anything else whatsoever.
You use proprietary hardware with proprietary firmware, what's the problem
with the software you use on your computer?
Simon Brown, HB9DRV
http://sdr-radio.com
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Why not just open-source it?
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 06:34:20 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GPS position
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Kevin,
Try to Google it, took 3 seconds.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/toys/gridconv.html
Dave - KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X
On Sep 28, 2011 1:33 AM, "Kevin Deane" <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I know this sounds lame but anyone know where I can enter lat and lon and
get my location. All my gps does really is give lat&lon which is fine, but
all the things I have found you click on the map and it gives everything
with grid but I want to do the reverse, so when I am driving around I can
punch in my gps cooridnates and get my location /grid on the map.
>
> Thanks for any help. :)
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
>
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:18:32 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HB9DRV
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 12:20:54 +0200
"Simon HB9DRV" <simon@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> There are many reasons for not providing software source, in my case I doubt
> there are many people with the requisite experience, time or patience to
> maintain this.
That's a rather arrogant attitude to take.
> FWIW and contrary to some opinion HRD has in fact cost me money over the
> years, not the other way around. Also I just have no, and I mean no time for
> anything else whatsoever.
Yes, software development costs time and money. Do you think the time and
hardware involved in developing lysdr was free? Or, for that matter, any
other software I have written.
> You use proprietary hardware with proprietary firmware, what's the problem
> with the software you use on your computer?
I avoid proprietary hardware and proprietary firmware. All of my radios
have full service manuals, with complete circuit diagrams. I only use
open-source software on my computers, and eschew binary-only drivers.
Again I ask, why are people so reluctant to release the source code for
software, but are more than happy to publish the circuit diagrams for
devices they design?
--
Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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