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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Yin and Yang (Trevor .)
2. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6, Issue 517
(Edwin M. "EMike" McCardel, KC8YLD)
3. Re: NW2C 911- SPECIAL EVENT STATION (Dee)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:49:24 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yin and Yang
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ARISSat-1 is an outstanding acheivement.
I presume that the use of the Silver-Zinc battery was a design constraint
imposed by those who commissioned the satellite - either use that battery or
there's no satellite.
ARISSat-1 has shown the attraction of SSTV - a great many Amateurs from
outside the Amateur Satellite community have tuned into the downlink just to
get the SSTV pics.
The BPSK beacon has clearly demonstrated that there are better ways to send
telemetry that 1980's AX.25 Packet FM and even with a 1 inch stub antenna
the SDX transponder has pointed the way ahead for linear transponders of the
future.
73 Trevor M5AKA
--- On Sun, 11/9/11, Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Bill Ress <bill@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yin and Yang
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sunday, 11 September, 2011, 19:57
> Hi Clint,
>
> I applaud and appreciate your efforts to demonstrate
> satellite
> communications and in particular your rebuttal to the
> detractors of
> ARISSat-1.
>
> As the designer and builder of the ARISSat-1 U/V
> transponder, I'm
> thrilled that it is performing well on the VHF downlink and
> pretty darn
> good on the UHF uplink with just an inch or so of antenna
> exposed.
>
> So naturally it sticks in my throat when a few out there
> just don't, and
> probably never will, appreciate the many, many volunteer
> hours spent by
> the ARISSat-1 team designing, building and testing the
> satellite. But I
> know the AMSAT team won't let a few dunder-heads slow down
> the momentum
> for the next satellite project - FOX.
>
> Again thanks for speaking up and for your many volunteer
> hours spreading
> our mission.
>
> Regards...Bill - N6GHz
>
>
>
> On 9/11/2011 11:15 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> > I stayed up all night Friday preparing printouts and
> stuff for the ARRL SW Division Convention. Left the house at
> 6:30am - to get there for our first of five sat passes at
> 7:47am. Worked five passes in front of folks. Performed my
> sat show for 90 minutes in front of a standing-room-only
> group of eighty-two. It was a non-stop flurry of activity.
> Had a GREAT time. Voice gone ... "convention legs" (you
> know, those muscles behind your shins get really sore -
> muscles that you usually never know are there ... (grin)).
> >
> > Got home about 10pm. Checked email. Six messages from
> show attendees, thanking me for everything. I quickly
> scanned the AMSAT-BB, QRZ.com, and eHam.net - and found a
> reply to a message I had written in a thread last week that
> really set me off. Someone mentioned that ARISSat-1 was
> "crippled" and of no use ... I replied by listing its
> intended modes, and the fact that all is working pretty
> darned as expected. We've even taxed a battery that was only
> rated at 5 discharge-charge cycles ... "But it is all
> working," I wrote.
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > Not really...it has become a piece of space junk very
> quickly. Deploying without the correct antenna and a crappy
> battery is an example of where our space program has gone. A
> sat that is in faliure mode only days after deployment.
> Donate more to AMSAT, we might get another piece or two of
> space junk in orbit before the ISS falls out of orbit.
> >
> > /s/
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > Well, I THOUGHT I was going to bed quickly. No way was
> I going to let that go unanswered overnight:
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> >>> ... it has become a piece of space junk very
> quickly ...
> >
> > I'll tell that to the 45 folks who witnessed/heard it
> this afternoon at the ARRL SW Division Convention in
> Torrance, CA. They will be so glad to be enlightened by your
> comment. They THOUGHT it was exciting hearing that 250mW
> signal and getting amped up about amateur sat comms this
> morning. But according to you, they are all wrong ...
> >
> >>> ... Deploying without the correct antenna ...
> >
> > Yet working marvelously - a true testament to
> those? who built the satellite.
> >
> >>> ... and a crappy battery ...
> >
> > The battery is exactly what was planned for - and
> anyone knowledgeable with the project knew its limitations.
> It was subjected to a very different charging regimen - as
> opposed to its expected rating of "five" discharge-charge
> cycles. If anyone calls the battery aspect of this project a
> "failure" then they have no clue as to what they are talking
> about. The battery was designed for Russian spacesuits and
> EVAs - seemed OK for that type of work to those who are
> responsible for the lives of their Cosmonauts.
> >
> >>> ... is an example of where our space program
> has gone ...
> >
> > Uh, this is an amateur radio project - with a Russian
> educational project on board. Where does NASA - "our space
> program" fail?
> >
> > We deployed an experiment over a month ago that is to
> this hour working well. This was never meant to be a
> long-term project.
> >
> > I am responsible for AMSAT receiving $1175 so far for
> this project. I do not remember seeing your name on the list
> of donors. Please correct me if I am wrong. And if you are
> truly interested n the future of amateur satellites, I'd
> like to see you include AMSAT in your will next week, and
> donate a little toward the future projects that are in the
> works. OR, of course, you can just moan and complain
> mindlessly in public forums like this one. It's your
> choice.
> >
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> >
> > I wasn't livid ... just irritated at the ignorance.
> Yes, I know that the battery started to deteriorate a little
> sooner than expected. But no one had subjected such a
> battery to what ARISSat-1 engineers were doing to it: MANY
> shallow charges daily. Just couple the YIN of excitedly
> working ARISSat-1 in front of a live audience and hearing
> people applaud the project - versus the YANG of this moronic
> post ... It was quite a day.
> >
> > And so it goes ...
> >
> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> > 909-241-7666
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:11:20 -0400
From: "Edwin M. \"EMike\" McCardel, KC8YLD" <kc8yld@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 6, Issue 517
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I would like to announce and congratulate, AMSAT member, Zack Beougher,
KD8KSN (EN80) for being honored as ARRL Great Lakes' Division, Young Radio
Amateur of the Year.
This is great honor for Zack, and it speaks well for the future of AMSAT,
having such a fine young man in our midst,
Congratulations Zach!
E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD
Ohio Section Affiliated Club Coordinator, ARRL
NO CODE REQUIRED
When All Else Fails... There's Amateur Radio
Learn more via www.ARRL.org
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 18:16:03 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Peter Portanova'" <portanova911@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NW2C 911- SPECIAL EVENT STATION
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Good going, Pete.
I was at a 9/11 memorial service in Bergen county NJ with the
community band I belong to so I couldn,t get on the air--
73,
Dee
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From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx
On Behalf Of Peter Portanova
Sent: Saturday, September 10, 2011 1:59 PM
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NW2C 911- SPECIAL EVENT STATION
Good Afternoon,
I have been invited, WB2OQQ, to operate a portable satellite station
on
September 11th, using the call NW2C, at Historic Fort Totten, located
in
Bayside New York, only a few miles from ground zero. Fort Totten was
one of
many placed used in recovery and healing during 911.
I will operate all FM satellite passes from 12 noon to 6pm EDT,
1600, -2200z. For those that make a confirmed satellite contact and
wish to
receive a Certificate of Confirmation, visit
http://www.nw2c.org/911.html,
for all the details, NW2C will also be operating on the general bands,
check
clusters for frequency updates.
I look forward to demonstrating how our amateur satellites, can be
utilized
as another communications possibility in a crisis, let's put on a good
show
for the very special people that will be invited to this 911 event,
thank
you.
73's Pete
WB2OQQ
www.massapequanyweather.com
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