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Today's Topics:
1. Fwd: Re: AMSAT-DL DONATIONS (Dave Guimont)
2. AO51 435.150 downlink ? (Henk, PA3GUO)
3. APRS through ISS and FD (Alan P. Biddle)
4. Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ? (Alan P. Biddle)
5. Cute packet report June 24 (Henk, PA3GUO)
6. Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ? (Andrew Glasbrenner)
7. Cute: still no FM packet (Henk, PA3GUO)
8. Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ? (Henk, PA3GUO)
9. Re: GO-32 query in AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue 315
(joe cassano aka jmario)
10. AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2008 (Trevor)
11. Re: Cute: still no FM packet (Hiroki Ashida)
12. Re: APRS through ISS and FD (Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR])
13. LVB Tracker and SatPC32 (w6mu(AT)comcast.net)
14. Re: LVB Tracker and SatPC32 (ka3hsw(AT)att.net)
15. Re: Cute: still no FM packet (Henk, PA3GUO)
16. Cute: no FM packet June 25th 09:15utc (Henk, PA3GUO)
17. Re: LVB Tracker and SatPC32 (Gould Smith)
18. Earth second picture (Mineo Wakita)
19. Special call AO4WT active (Robert Turlington)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:24:04 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Re: AMSAT-DL DONATIONS
To: amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org
Message-ID:
<20080624182411.ENML27427.cdptpa-omta03.mail.rr.com(AT)Dave.san.rr.com>
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Hello all,
I just got the following from Peter DB2OS, and made another
donation....You will be rewarded with the fact that you have
contributed to the launch of the next hamsat OF ANY SIGNIFICANCE, and
besides a nice colored certificate!!
I encourage all of the REAL hamsaters amongst us to join in!
Please...
>Hi Dave,
>
>the URL for donations towards AMSAT P3-E is:
>
>http://www.p3e-satellite.org/index.pl?lang=en_EN
>
>Minimum donation is 50 Euro, which is equal to 1 field with 10x10 pixels.
>You can indeed choose more pixels and even upload your logo and URL
>to you homepage, etc..
>
>The last step in the automatic process is the payment. PayPal,
>Credit Card or wire transfer is supported.
>
>Thanks for your donation, we urgently need the support and confidence...
Tnx, Peter...
73, Dave, WB6LLO
dguimon1(AT)san.rr.com
Disagree: I learn....
Pulling for P3E...
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:06:58 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO51 435.150 downlink ?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>
Message-ID: <1122.212.61.85.173.1214334418.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi all !
For 70cm I have a 2x8 elements beam. Fixed RHCP polarization.
Downlink of AO51 on 435.300 is always strong,
even though I do not have a pre-amp.
Now, the 435.150 downlink I always hear very weak.
a) is this because of the fact that AO51 uses LHCP on 435.150 ?
b) anyone else confirming the same sharp difference between
RHCP & LHCP on the AO51 downlink ?
(guess this could be an argument NOT to use circular polarization)
Reason for asking: I have now a 23cm antenna, and 10W out of my TS2000X
and so I wanted to give the 23cm up / 70cm downlink a try ...
but of course I first need to hear the downlink :-)
... yes, I know I should use pre-amps ... !
73, Henk, PA3GUO
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:39:50 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS through ISS and FD
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <713CB41462834B9B9FA4A20E8E71B5EC(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi,
Question. I know that a QSO WITH the ISS does not count as a space contact
for FD. Is it also true that a contact THROUGH the digi does not count? I
got a call from a local FD group, and the Q&A list does not explicitly rule
that out. Or at least it can be read that way. It looks as if the "amateur
radio satellite" part does knock it out.
Alan
WA4SCA
Q. Why doesn't our contact with the International Space Station count for
the satellite bonus?
A. While the ISS is be definition, the purpose of the satellite QSO bonus is
to complete an Earth to Earth contact via an amateur radio satellite.
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 14:42:30 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE(AT)UNITED.NET>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BC089E3E37CF4902A27506ED864BCA83(AT)WA4SCA>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Henk,
Yes, the CP is going to be opposite, and switching direction can make
several S-units of difference. Of course, using a pre-amp will make even
the wrong polarization usable at least most of the time.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:01:55 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cute packet report June 24
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <1276.212.61.85.173.1214337715.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
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Only a single FM packet heared, then it stopped.
CW telemetry was active the entire pass.
Anyone else had better results with packet ?
Henk, PA3GUO
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June 24, 2008, 08:30 utc
Max elevation: 40 degrees
CW 437.275: active
cute 87 cba89938272474634217
FM 437.475: one packet heared only, then stopped
1. Name :
2. E-mail : pa3guo(AT)amsat.org
3. Call : PA3GUO
4. Date of reception : June 24, 2008
5. Time you received : 20:00 UTC
6. Place of reception : 51.23.24N, 5.27.29E (JO21RJ)
7. Country : The Netherlands
8. Radio type of data : CW
9. Received data : see above
10.Receiving apparatus: Kenwood TS2000 + 2x8 elements antenna
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:59:04 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner(AT)mindspring.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ?
To: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <3341D7F4C0104A5BB6CA3FA7CE68514A(AT)Andrewlaptop>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
>
> a) is this because of the fact that AO51 uses LHCP on 435.150 ?
> b) anyone else confirming the same sharp difference between
> RHCP & LHCP on the AO51 downlink ?
> (guess this could be an argument NOT to use circular polarization)
Hi Henk,
I think you've got it right, the polarity difference is a killer.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:38:47 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cute: still no FM packet
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2719.212.61.85.173.1214343527.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
During the 21:30utc pass again no FM packet heared from Cute
Henk Hamoen, PA3GUO
JO21RJ
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:41:35 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 435.150 downlink ?
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <2728.212.61.85.173.1214343695.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Thanks Alan & Andrew for confirming.
As alternative I could use my portable antenna,
but having that in my hands in the garden and
the 23cm uplink in the shack is difficult :-)
Need to wait until AO51 will be in 23cm up and 435.300 downlink.
Until then: thanks !
Henk, PA3GUO
ps: the 23cm is to prepare for Cute
>>
>> a) is this because of the fact that AO51 uses LHCP on 435.150 ?
>> b) anyone else confirming the same sharp difference between
>> RHCP & LHCP on the AO51 downlink ?
>> (guess this could be an argument NOT to use circular polarization)
>
> Hi Henk,
> I think you've got it right, the polarity difference is a killer.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:08:06 -0400
From: joe cassano aka jmario <jmario(AT)fast.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: GO-32 query in AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 3, Issue
315
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <48616236.8080200(AT)fast.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
I can send APRS packets through GO-32 at will with 5 watts and an Arrow
antenna on a tripod if the elevation is greater than 30 degrees. Last
time I heard anyone else via GO-32 was on June 13 (VA3SU-1 at 13:14Z).
A look at http://mangrove.findu.com/cgi-bin/pcsat.cgi?absolute=1 shows
the current usage seems to be in Asia and Europe (or perhaps North
America lacks Igates listening to GO-32).
Joe, K3FMA
>> hello folks, anyone copy or hear go-32 this am pass?
>> anyone hear me xmit? I use to be able to copy this
>> sat good. wondering if my station is working
>> on 9600 baud. had a good 85 degree pass
>
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:30:28 +0000 (GMT)
From: Trevor <m5aka(AT)yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-UK International Space Colloquium 2008
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <359535.53478.qm(AT)web27206.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
AMSAT-UK will be holding their 23rd International Space Colloquium at the
University of Surrey, Guildford, England from Friday 25th until Sunday 27th
July.
There will a tour of the Surrey Space Centre facilities that is always popular
and provides a unique opportunity to see satellites in various stages of
construction.
On Friday in addition to the main lecture programme there will be a special
"Beginners Workshop" to show newcomers how to use the many Amateur Satellites
that are available.
The event is open to all Radio Amateurs and SWL's. Either Day passes or full
packages comprising overnight accommodation and meals at the University are
available. An online booking service is available with PayPal, Visa and Master
Card payments accepted.
For further details contact Jim Heck G3WGM Tel: +44 1258 453959
Email: g3wgm(AT)amsat.org
Web: http://www.uk.amsat.org/Colloquium/ (see Travel for maps)
Online Booking: http://www.uk.amsat.org/content/view/25/49/
----
__________________________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:08:35 +0900
From: Hiroki Ashida <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cute: still no FM packet
To: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>, AMSAT Bulletin Board
<amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>, Colin Hurst <cjhurst(AT)bigpond.net.au>
Message-ID: <48618C83.10203(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Dear Henk, Colin and BB members
I'm Hiroki Ashida, the current project manager of the Cute project.
I'm very sorry though we informed you that the APD observation had
started, the APD module was automatically turned off at 19:50, Jun
24(UTC) due to an electrical power shortage.
We'll try it again so please try to receive it if you can!
Best Regards,
Hiroki Ashida
Cute-1.7 + APD II
Henk, PA3GUO wrote:
> During the 21:30utc pass again no FM packet heared from Cute
>
> Henk Hamoen, PA3GUO
> JO21RJ
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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--
Hiroki Ashida <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
Laboratory for Space Systems
Department of Mechano-Aerospace Engineering
Tokyo Institute of Technology
TEL/FAX : +81-3-5734-2644
Room 554, Ishikawadai 1st Bldg, Tokyo Institute of Technology
2-12-1 O-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:27:34 -0500
From: "Ransom, Kenneth G. (JSC-OC)[BAR]" <kenneth.g.ransom(AT)nasa.gov>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: APRS through ISS and FD
To: <APBIDDLE(AT)MAILAPS.ORG>, "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID:
<A2862DA1C49F4145AF6C2A4528294035ACEC28(AT)NDJSEVS21A.ndc.nasa.gov>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Contacts through the amateur radio system on the ISS do count as a satellite
contact. So, if you make a voice contact via the crossband repater on ISS or
via the packet Digi then your contact counts. It is the contact with the ISS
crew that does not (as previously stated) count as a contact via an amateur
radio satellite.
Kenneth - N5VHO
________________________________
From: amsat-bb-bounces(AT)amsat.org on behalf of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Tue 6/24/2008 2:39 PM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS through ISS and FD
Hi,
Question. I know that a QSO WITH the ISS does not count as a space contact
for FD. Is it also true that a contact THROUGH the digi does not count? I
got a call from a local FD group, and the Q&A list does not explicitly rule
that out. Or at least it can be read that way. It looks as if the "amateur
radio satellite" part does knock it out.
Alan
WA4SCA
Q. Why doesn't our contact with the International Space Station count for
the satellite bonus?
A. While the ISS is be definition, the purpose of the satellite QSO bonus is
to complete an Earth to Earth contact via an amateur radio satellite.
_______________________________________________
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 01:20:55 +0000
From: w6mu(AT)comcast.net
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker and SatPC32
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID:
<062520080120.18615.48619D77000D0C93000048B722165548860E039C010D9B(AT)co
mcast.net>
Is there a way to flip the antennas with SatPC32 and the LVB Tracker? This
would be like Flippants with Instant Track to work around the rotor stop.
Tim w6mu
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:49:42 -0500
From: <ka3hsw(AT)att.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LVB Tracker and SatPC32
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <002a01c8d676$80727990$0601a8c0(AT)parents>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
----- Original Message -----
From: <w6mu(AT)comcast.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker and SatPC32
> Is there a way to flip the antennas with SatPC32 and the LVB Tracker?
> This would be like Flippants with Instant Track to work around the rotor
> stop.
>
> Tim w6mu
Yes.... In the Rotor Setup section of SatPC32, simply click the radio
button for 180 degree max. elevation under the Optional Settings portion
(the lower pane of the Rotor Setup window).
73,
George, KA3HSW
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 07:32:02 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Cute: still no FM packet
To: <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
Cc: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <1199.212.61.85.173.1214371922.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Hiroki,
Seems indeed at around 19:50utc it was turned off:
Around that time (at the very beginning of the pass)
I did hear that single packet and no more after that.
Which confirms that your timer works fine !
Henk, PA3GUO
> Dear Henk, Colin and BB members
>
> I'm Hiroki Ashida, the current project manager of the Cute project. I'm very
sorry though we informed you that the
> APD observation had started, the APD module was automatically turned off at
19:50, Jun 24(UTC) due to an
> electrical power shortage.
> We'll try it again so please try to receive it if you can!
>
> Best Regards,
> Hiroki Ashida
> Cute-1.7 + APD II
>
> Henk, PA3GUO wrote:
>> During the 21:30utc pass again no FM packet heared from Cute
>>
>> Henk Hamoen, PA3GUO
>> JO21RJ
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to
>> support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings:
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>>
> --
> Hiroki Ashida <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
> Laboratory for Space Systems
> Department of Mechano-Aerospace Engineering
> Tokyo Institute of Technology
> TEL/FAX : +81-3-5734-2644
> Room 554, Ishikawadai 1st Bldg, Tokyo Institute of Technology
> 2-12-1 O-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:31:25 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Henk, PA3GUO" <hamoen(AT)iae.nl>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cute: no FM packet June 25th 09:15utc
To: <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>, <amsat-bb(AT)AMSAT.Org>, <""(AT)iae.nl>
Message-ID: <19475.80.255.245.177.1214386285.squirrel(AT)webmail.iae.nl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
No packet heared 0915utc June 25th pass over Europe.
Henk, PA3GUO
> Hi Hiroki,
>
> Seems indeed at around 19:50utc it was turned off:
> Around that time (at the very beginning of the pass)
> I did hear that single packet and no more after that.
>
> Which confirms that your timer works fine !
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
>> Dear Henk, Colin and BB members
>>
>> I'm Hiroki Ashida, the current project manager of the Cute project. I'm
very sorry though we informed you that the
>> APD observation had started, the APD module was automatically turned off
at 19:50, Jun 24(UTC) due to an
>> electrical power shortage.
>> We'll try it again so please try to receive it if you can!
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Hiroki Ashida
>> Cute-1.7 + APD II
>>
>> Henk, PA3GUO wrote:
>>> During the 21:30utc pass again no FM packet heared from Cute
>>>
>>> Henk Hamoen, PA3GUO
>>> JO21RJ
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the
author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to
>>> support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings:
http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> --
>> Hiroki Ashida <hiroki(AT)lss.mes.titech.ac.jp>
>> Laboratory for Space Systems
>> Department of Mechano-Aerospace Engineering
>> Tokyo Institute of Technology
>> TEL/FAX : +81-3-5734-2644
>> Room 554, Ishikawadai 1st Bldg, Tokyo Institute of Technology
>> 2-12-1 O-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo, Japan
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 05:46:21 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi(AT)bellsouth.net>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LVB Tracker and SatPC32
To: <w6mu(AT)comcast.net>, <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <E61D57FDFC5741968031884F1ECE2EA7(AT)GouldMainPC>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Tim,
Yes there is. You must first calibrate or re-calibrate the LVB Tracker for
180 degrees El and 360 or 450 degrees Az, then you must set the max setting
in SatPC32 Rotor Setup.
73,
Gould, WA4SXM
----- Original Message -----
From: <w6mu(AT)comcast.net>
To: <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 9:20 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Tracker and SatPC32
> Is there a way to flip the antennas with SatPC32 and the LVB Tracker?
> This would be like Flippants with Instant Track to work around the rotor
> stop.
>
> Tim w6mu
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB(AT)amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:33:41 +0900
From: Mineo Wakita <ei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Earth second picture
To: amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org
Message-ID: <84C8D6AEEFD1EFei7m-wkt(AT)asahi-net.or.jp>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
CUTE-1.7+APDII grand station says:
> This is second picture which was taken by Cute-1.7 + APD II.
> The exposure is a little excessive, but it is clearly understood that
> it is the earth and taken a picture in the sky over Brazil by ADCS.
> The consideration of the place from the shape of the cloud is difficult
> this time, so please inform if you were able to specify it somewhere.
http://lss.mes.titech.ac.jp/ssp/cute1.7/blog/01_03.jpg
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 12:31:52 +0100
From: Robert Turlington <rob_g8ate(AT)hotmail.com>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Special call AO4WT active
To: Amsat Buleitin Board <amsat-bb(AT)amsat.org>
Message-ID: <BAY112-W548F7A3F826A56C5C122A3C0A00(AT)phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
All
Special call AO4WT was active today on VO52, I worked him at 1111utc the event
is:-EXPO-2008 ZaragozaRegards Robert G8ATE
_________________________________________________________________
http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/msnnkmgl0010000002ukm/direct/01/
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