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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails (Trevor .)
2. Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails ((kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez)
3. Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails (Trevor .)
4. Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails (Jeffrey Koehler)
5. Aluma Tower and Yaesu G5400 Azimuth Rotor (Joe Leikhim)
6. IRENE Is Coming (Doug Kuitula)
7. Shuttle 360 degree cockpit interactive view (Bob Bruninga )
8. Office Closed (Martha)
9. Arissat-1 signal (Pete MI0VAX)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:48:43 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails
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--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> With that said, I am very curious on what is NASA's contingency plan
> if our Russian friends for whatever reason can't or won't deliver
> fulfill their promise?
Evacuate, courtesy of the Russian Federation's Soyuz craft. Fortunately I
gather they've got a years supply of food up there. Not too sure about
clothes though as one major problem still to be cracked is how to wash
clothes in space.
The Progress failure is a reminder that everything to do with space is
hazardous. Launch success is never guaranteed.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:24:22 -0400
From: "(kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez" <kp4tr.ramon@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails
Message-ID: <4A1337C1-E031-4642-8426-7109810888D9@xxxxx.xxx>
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At least there were no humans harmed.
Sent from my Adobe Flash and Java challenged iPhone
On Aug 24, 2011, at 3:48 PM, "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> --- On Wed, 24/8/11, Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> With that said, I am very curious on what is NASA's contingency plan
>> if our Russian friends for whatever reason can't or won't deliver
>> fulfill their promise?
>
> Evacuate, courtesy of the Russian Federation's Soyuz craft. Fortunately I
gather they've got a years supply of food up there. Not too sure about
clothes though as one major problem still to be cracked is how to wash
clothes in space.
>
> The Progress failure is a reminder that everything to do with space is
hazardous. Launch success is never guaranteed.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 22:12:32 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails
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--- On Wed, 24/8/11, R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Trevor? with all due respect...no
> The Progress failure is a reminder that anything that has to do
> with technology is hazardous and if you do not deal with it by
> appropriate methods or get sloppy then failure will occur.
The thing is launches are done by human beings and humans do get sloppy at
times or turn a blind eye to short comings because they believe with good
reason that if they don't they won't get promotion or may even be sacked.
Submarines have the advantage of never exploding less than a minute after
leaving harbor.
> I know that its a big deal to say "space is hard" and that excuses
> all sorts of things including mediocrity or failure to follow
> established technical procedures and guidelines.
Yes in space mediocrity or failure to follow established technical
procedures and guidelines kills - for most earth bound activities people can
get away with it most of the time.
When we look at the video of the deployment of ARISSat-1, were the
Cosmonouts deliberately knocking the satellite against the ISS structure or
was maneuvering a satellite in a weighless environment very difficult?
Thinking back about the deployment it doesn't suprise me that it was the
70cm antenna that broke off. The 2 meter antenna is big and conspicuous so
you'd try your best to ensure it didn't hit anything. The 70cm antenna is
small, inconspicuous and on the opposite side of the satellite to the 2
meter antenna that you're taking care not to knock - result the 70cm antenna
is the one that gets clobbered.
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 16:15:05 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jeffrey Koehler <jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxx>
To: apbiddle@xxxxxxx.xxxx pisymbol@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails
Message-ID:
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Marooned?
http://m.imdb.com/title/tt0064639/
SPS engine wont fire and Command Module running out of consumables.
Hurricane over the Cape causing delay in rescue mission.
Wont spoil it for you if you haven't seen it.
Good flick.
73 Jeff WB2SYK
On Wed Aug 24th, 2011 2:46 PM EDT Alan P. Biddle wrote:
>I recall a line something like this from an old movie:
>
>"The two big guys throw the little guy out the airlock." ;)
>
>Alan
>WA4SCA
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
>Behalf Of Alexander Sack
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:37 PM
>To: amsat-bb
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Re-supply Spacecraft Fails
>
>On Wed, Aug 24, 2011 at 2:16 PM, <g0mrf@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> ?Here in London, we have free access to the Russia Today TV station. ?The
>launch failure is the major news item. They report it was due to a third
>stage failure. Even had an interview with an eye witness who said the area
>where it crashed was an area popular with people picking nuts in the summer.
>> The next lauch was due on October 28th and they are speculating this will
>be brought forward.
>>
>> The report is probably available on the web site www.rt.com
>>
>> They ?also said that a satellite launched on August 18th (The EDUSAT
>launch?) suddenly veered off course. - Not sure if this was a single
>satellite or the whole launch vehicle
>>
>
>I guess the ISS Crew is going to have to brush up on their "rock,
>paper, scissors" skills to see who gets dessert until another supply
>rocket is shot up!
>
>[I am only kidding, I read already they have enough supplies to last
>them till the next supply ship is launched]
>
>With that said, I am very curious on what is NASA's contingency plan
>if our Russian friends for whatever reason can't or won't deliver
>fulfill their promise?
>
>-aps (KC2ZSX)
>
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 19:53:52 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx flwss@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Aluma Tower and Yaesu G5400 Azimuth Rotor
Message-ID: <4E558F10.7030705@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hi;
I am in the market for an Aluma Tower T-40H, I found one which needs a
few parts and DLC, (anyone else selling similar in Florida, speak up).
My question is the installation of the G5400 azimuth rotor. I didn't
have the tower and rotor in same place at same time, so I made up a 7
1/2" diameter template simulating the bolt hole placement and outer
"corners" of the bolt bosses on the rotor bell. It seems that it "might
just fit" with about 1/16 inch uncertainty. Has anyone else installed
this rotor inside of an Aluma Tower T-40H? Some say it interferes with
fully retracting with some rotors. Experience good or bad, please share.
Thanks
--
Joe Leikhim
Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida
www.Leikhim.com
JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx
407-982-0446
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 20:20:44 -0400
From: "Doug Kuitula" <ka8qcu@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IRENE Is Coming
Message-ID: <000701cc62bc$d77f0020$912b4b0c@xxx>
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Hi All,
It looks like you hams on the east coast of North America, from North
Carolina to Quebec and Nova Scotia, are going to have some problems with
antennas this weekend. I hope you have had time to take down the towers and
have made the proper plans. I hope we will hear you with a hand held antenna
and an HT.
I was just thinking if any hams have any health and welfare communications
via satellite in the next weekend. Do we have any procedures that we should
use on the birds? And are there any procedures that should be used on the
digital satellites?
Quite obviously do not break up any emergency communication while on the
birds.
Just wondering anyway..................73 de Doug KA8QCU
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 23:45:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Shuttle 360 degree cockpit interactive view
Message-ID: <201108250345.020556@xxx.xxxx.xxx>
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Amazing ineractive view inside the shuttle!. Sit there in the cockpit of
the Shuttle and joystick around and look everywhere!
http://360vr.com/2011/06/22-discovery-flight-deck-opf_6236/index.html
YOu may have to cut and paste, since this URL wraps to 2 lines.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 11:11:11 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT Office will be closed from Friday, August 26 - Tues, Sept 6th.
My family has plans to go to Long Beach Island in NJ but hurricane Irene
might change that!
--
73- Martha
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 19:22:19 +0100
From: Pete MI0VAX <petemi0vax@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Arissat-1 signal
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Is it just me, or was the last pass over Europe (orbit # 333) very weak?
Barely heard it at all, before I have been getting S9 +60dB signals
Pete
Mi0VAX
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