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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ARISSat TLM: Sample rate of Signalink (Paul Williamson)
2. ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ? (PA3GUO)
3. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ? (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
4. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ? (Sion Chow Q. C.)
5. Re: Transponder 1412Z (K5OE)
6. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ? (PA3GUO)
7. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (and submission listings)
(PA3GUO)
8. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ? (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
9. Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (and submission listings)
(Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC))
10. Re: ARISSat TLM: Sample rate of Signalink (Alan P. Biddle)
11. WORK-AROUND FOUND! RE: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (PA3GUO)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:12:07 -0700
From: Paul Williamson <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM: Sample rate of Signalink
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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At 9:17 AM -0500 8/7/11, Alan P. Biddle wrote:
>Based on reports I have received, and considerable
>experimentation, it seems to be a poor performer in this mode. So far,
>nobody has reported success with the unit on any radio.
The SignaLink USB worked for me. I copied 39 telemetry frames on the first
full-daylight pass here in San Diego using the unmodified SignaLink USB
hooked between the 6-pin data port of an IC-7000 and a MacBook Air, with
manual tuning, omni antenna, and obstructed horizons.
73 -Paul
kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 17:23:43 +0200
From: "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000101cc5515$ff2f8400$fd8e8c00$@xxxxx.xxx>
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Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
- using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of HDSDR
(volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
- using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear which)
How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
Henk, PA3GUO
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 15:39:42 +0000
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3EB1BE.2010508@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Windows control panel/sounds
On 08/07/2011 03:23 PM, PA3GUO wrote:
> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>
> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of HDSDR
> (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>
> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear which)
>
> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 00:00:11 +0800
From: "Sion Chow Q. C." <9w2qc@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
To: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <09CFAA3F-5DCE-4B34-BE8A-4422621A52F5@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Henk,
I seem to have the same problem as you do, and how I overcame it is to
ensure that the sound card that you want ARISSatTLM to use is the default
system sound card.
Perhaps the developer of ARISSatTLM can place an option in the software to
allow us to select the desired sound card to use with it?
73, Sion, 9M2CQC
On 7 Aug 2011, at 11:23 PM, "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>
> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of HDSDR
> (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>
> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear which)
>
> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:02:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Transponder 1412Z
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CE233291149F30-F60-CDF4@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Ray,
I heard you solid, 589, with some QSB, but never faint. I didn't reply
because I was going back and forth to 145.825 to see if the packet was
operational (it was not). I did not hear the reported QRM from packet
bursts over that pass (Pacific, SoCal, & Baja).
73,
Jerry, K5OE
---- original message -----
I heard myself calling CQ for about 2 minutes, peaking 569, but no takers
that I could hear. Then, about 2 minutes later, I heard AA5PK calling CQ,
about the same strength, but I could no longer hear myself.
It's a challenge!
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:06:50 +0200
From: "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000701cc551c$0596b5b0$10c42110$@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Nigel
I do not understand, sorry. Can you give more details ?
In Win XP I know how to do that, not in 7
How do I have HDSDR select the FCD USB device as input
and then ARISSatTLM select the output of HDSDR as input ?
Right now it selects the laptop build in MIC, when I disable
that HDSDR stops working (unclear to me why btw).
Henk
> Windows control panel/sounds
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: PA3GUO [mailto:pa3guo@xxxxx.xxxx
Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 17:24
Aan: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Onderwerp: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
- using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of HDSDR
(volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
- using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear which)
How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
Henk, PA3GUO
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 18:32:27 +0200
From: "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (and
submission listings)
To: "'Sion Chow Q. C.'" <9w2qc@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000b01cc551f$997f5db0$cc7e1910$@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi Sion,
Great suggestion.
Another suggestion:
Not for us experimenters, but for schools / teachers / others / .. :
ARISSatTLM setup under Win7 worked fine, the assumed directory
for the TLM storage was indeed used.
For Win XP this did not work: I got an error message when starting
ARISSatTLM, it looked for the directory on the wrong place (it was
created somewhere else). So I moved that directory to the place
it was looking for it, and it works.
I know there is a heads up on this issue during the install process, but
still.
For those many new people we try to interest (those 1+ million AMSAT
reached with the press release), it would be good to fix this.
Just my 2 cents.
Henk
(btw: the SW overall looks good & quite appealing (also important in this
case),
it seems to incorporate the best ideas of recent other space programs,
including Delfi-C3, RAX, ..)
Another idea (maybe this is already in place and I missed it)
It would be nice to have on the ARISSat telemtry website (latest values)
an overview of which stations submitted the data (they entered their
callsign under 'tools').
That would highly motivate new people to contribute. Imagine you are a
student,
and build a receive set-up, and can show your teacher your name/call is
listed on the official
ARISSat website ! Projects like RAX and FASTRAC do this already:
http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/users/phpBB3/topuploads.php
Henk
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Sion Chow Q. C. [mailto:9w2qc@xxxxx.xxxx
Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 18:00
Aan: PA3GUO
CC: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
Hi Henk,
I seem to have the same problem as you do, and how I overcame it is to
ensure that the sound card that you want ARISSatTLM to use is the default
system sound card.
Perhaps the developer of ARISSatTLM can place an option in the software to
allow us to select the desired sound card to use with it?
73, Sion, 9M2CQC
On 7 Aug 2011, at 11:23 PM, "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>
> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of
> HDSDR (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>
> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear
> which)
>
> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 16:44:39 +0000
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
To: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3EC0F7.7020603@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Doesn't Win 7 have a control panel with Sound option.
You need to set the desired sound devices as the defaults.
On 08/07/2011 04:06 PM, PA3GUO wrote:
> Hi Nigel
>
> I do not understand, sorry. Can you give more details ?
> In Win XP I know how to do that, not in 7
>
> How do I have HDSDR select the FCD USB device as input
> and then ARISSatTLM select the output of HDSDR as input ?
>
> Right now it selects the laptop build in MIC, when I disable
> that HDSDR stops working (unclear to me why btw).
>
> Henk
>
>
>> Windows control panel/sounds
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: PA3GUO [mailto:pa3guo@xxxxx.xxxx
> Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 17:24
> Aan: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Onderwerp: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
>
> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>
> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of HDSDR
> (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>
> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear which)
>
> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>
> Henk, PA3GUO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 9
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 12:50:25 -0400
From: "Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC)" <9w2qc@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (and
submission listings)
To: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110807125025.119410hwj6bqv8eo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; DelSp="Yes";
format="flowed"
Hi Henk,
I totally agree with your suggestion, and to make it easy student is
the key to get the younger generation interested in all these. I also
understand that the ARISSat-1 team is already working on a page to
show the submission of telemetry, so we shall wait a while and see.
73, Sion, 9M2CQC
Quoting PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>:
> Hi Sion,
> Great suggestion.
>
> Another suggestion:
> Not for us experimenters, but for schools / teachers / others / .. :
>
> ARISSatTLM setup under Win7 worked fine, the assumed directory
> for the TLM storage was indeed used.
>
> For Win XP this did not work: I got an error message when starting
> ARISSatTLM, it looked for the directory on the wrong place (it was
> created somewhere else). So I moved that directory to the place
> it was looking for it, and it works.
>
> I know there is a heads up on this issue during the install process, but
> still.
> For those many new people we try to interest (those 1+ million AMSAT
> reached with the press release), it would be good to fix this.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Henk
>
> (btw: the SW overall looks good & quite appealing (also important in this
> case),
> it seems to incorporate the best ideas of recent other space programs,
> including Delfi-C3, RAX, ..)
>
> Another idea (maybe this is already in place and I missed it)
> It would be nice to have on the ARISSat telemtry website (latest values)
> an overview of which stations submitted the data (they entered their
> callsign under 'tools').
> That would highly motivate new people to contribute. Imagine you are a
> student,
> and build a receive set-up, and can show your teacher your name/call is
> listed on the official
> ARISSat website ! Projects like RAX and FASTRAC do this already:
> http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/users/phpBB3/topuploads.php
>
>
> Henk
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Sion Chow Q. C. [mailto:9w2qc@xxxxx.xxxx
> Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 18:00
> Aan: PA3GUO
> CC: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
>
> Hi Henk,
>
> I seem to have the same problem as you do, and how I overcame it is to
> ensure that the sound card that you want ARISSatTLM to use is the default
> system sound card.
>
> Perhaps the developer of ARISSatTLM can place an option in the software to
> allow us to select the desired sound card to use with it?
>
> 73, Sion, 9M2CQC
>
>
>
> On 7 Aug 2011, at 11:23 PM, "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>>
>> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of
>> HDSDR (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>>
>> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear
>> which)
>>
>> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>>
>> Henk, PA3GUO
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 10
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:53:36 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM: Sample rate of Signalink
To: "'Paul Williamson'" <kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx>, <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1C92A04F8E994EB89F620757052037F9@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Paul,
That's one! Thanks for the report.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Williamson [mailto:kb5mu@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:12 AM
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: 'Werner, HB9BNK'; 'AMSAT-BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat TLM: Sample rate of Signalink
At 9:17 AM -0500 8/7/11, Alan P. Biddle wrote:
>Based on reports I have received, and considerable
>experimentation, it seems to be a poor performer in this mode. So far,
>nobody has reported success with the unit on any radio.
The SignaLink USB worked for me. I copied 39 telemetry frames on the first
full-daylight pass here in San Diego using the unmodified SignaLink USB
hooked between the 6-pin data port of an IC-7000 and a MacBook Air, with
manual tuning, omni antenna, and obstructed horizons.
73 -Paul
kb5mu@xxxxx.xxx
------------------------------
Message: 11
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 20:27:28 +0200
From: "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WORK-AROUND FOUND! RE: ARISSat TLM soundcard
selection
To: "'Sion Chow Q. C. \(9W2QC\)'" <9w2qc@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001001cc552f$aad06630$00713290$@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
OK !
So there is no way to select between either the soundcard (read output from
HDSDR)
or the FCD (which is in the system also a soundcard.
BUT: here is the work around;
step 1: disconnect the FCD
step 2: start ARISSatTLM (only th normal sound card is present, which it
selects)
(not: in the Tuning indicator no signal is seen)
step 3: plug in the FCD (into the USB port of the PC)
step 4: start HDSDR
>>> and now ARISSatTLM shows the output of HDSDR
Voila (the French would say)
Henk
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC) [mailto:9w2qc@xxxxx.xxxx
Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 18:50
Aan: PA3GUO
CC: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Onderwerp: RE: [amsat-bb] ARISSat TLM soundcard selection (and submission
listings)
Hi Henk,
I totally agree with your suggestion, and to make it easy student is the key
to get the younger generation interested in all these. I also understand
that the ARISSat-1 team is already working on a page to show the submission
of telemetry, so we shall wait a while and see.
73, Sion, 9M2CQC
Quoting PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx>:
> Hi Sion,
> Great suggestion.
>
> Another suggestion:
> Not for us experimenters, but for schools / teachers / others / .. :
>
> ARISSatTLM setup under Win7 worked fine, the assumed directory for the
> TLM storage was indeed used.
>
> For Win XP this did not work: I got an error message when starting
> ARISSatTLM, it looked for the directory on the wrong place (it was
> created somewhere else). So I moved that directory to the place it was
> looking for it, and it works.
>
> I know there is a heads up on this issue during the install process,
> but still.
> For those many new people we try to interest (those 1+ million AMSAT
> reached with the press release), it would be good to fix this.
>
> Just my 2 cents.
>
> Henk
>
> (btw: the SW overall looks good & quite appealing (also important in
> this case), it seems to incorporate the best ideas of recent other
> space programs, including Delfi-C3, RAX, ..)
>
> Another idea (maybe this is already in place and I missed it) It would
> be nice to have on the ARISSat telemtry website (latest values) an
> overview of which stations submitted the data (they entered their
> callsign under 'tools').
> That would highly motivate new people to contribute. Imagine you are a
> student, and build a receive set-up, and can show your teacher your
> name/call is listed on the official ARISSat website ! Projects like
> RAX and FASTRAC do this already:
> http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/users/phpBB3/topuploa
> ds.php
>
>
> Henk
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: Sion Chow Q. C. [mailto:9w2qc@xxxxx.xxxx
> Verzonden: zondag 7 augustus 2011 18:00
> Aan: PA3GUO
> CC: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Onderwerp: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISSat TLM soundcard selection ?
>
> Hi Henk,
>
> I seem to have the same problem as you do, and how I overcame it is to
> ensure that the sound card that you want ARISSatTLM to use is the
> default system sound card.
>
> Perhaps the developer of ARISSatTLM can place an option in the
> software to allow us to select the desired sound card to use with it?
>
> 73, Sion, 9M2CQC
>
>
>
> On 7 Aug 2011, at 11:23 PM, "PA3GUO" <pa3guo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Case: Using ARISSatTLM with the output of HDSDR (connected to FCD SDR).
>>
>> - using Win XP (by luck ?) ARISSatTLM selects the decoded output of
>> HDSDR (volume of HDSDR varies the input level of the ARISSTLM window)
>>
>> - using Win7 64bit ARISSatTLM seems to select another input (unclear
>> which)
>>
>> How can I select which sound card ARISSatTLM should use ?
>>
>> Henk, PA3GUO
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
------------------------------
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