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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose (Trevor .)
   2.  report of QRP ARISSAT-1 transponder operation (Bruce Robertson)
   3. Re: Juno On Its Way To Jupiter with LEGO toys (B J)
   4. Re: Arissat-1 Commanding? (Phil Karn)
   5. Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
      Celestrak (Phil Karn)
   6. Re: Arissat-1 Commanding? (W4ART Arthur Feller)
   7. Re: MacDoppler Help (Michael Schulz)
   8.  ARISSat 70cms antenna? (John Heath)
   9. Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
      Celestrak (Phil Karn)
  10. Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose (Dee)
  11. Re: Arissat-1 Commanding?   with better link to article
      (W4ART Arthur Feller)
  12.  MacDoppler help (Perry Yantis)
  13.  AClog/LOTW Working and uploaded back to 7/05
      (John Henderson N4NAB)
  14. Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose (R Oler)
  15. Re: ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks (Luc Leblanc)
  16. Re: Arissat-1 Commanding? (Luc Leblanc)
  17. Re: ARISSat-1 over West Malaysia (Luc Leblanc)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:04:09 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Bob Bruninga
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1312581849.76169.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Bob, Politicians are the same the world over.

I note that some of your Politicians seem paranoid about the USA's biggest
trading partner, Beijing. I don't mind betting that in a few years time your
Politicians will be falling over themselves to vote billions of tax dollars
to the Space program to prevent the US falling into 3rd place behind the
Russian Federation and Beijing.

Fortunately few ever see the name that's allocated to keps. Gould's TV
interview,
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/178784/2/STEM-education-reaches-new-heights
, showed how amateurs can use the media to promote the great acheivement of
the ARISSat team.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Fri, 5/8/11, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >> ,,,it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'. (no
> >> ARRISat-1' listing). Will that eventually change?
>
> I chuckle.?
>
> We in the USA have virtually abandoned manned space. We
> have no manned space
> flight vehicles because all we do is squabble with the
> attention span of 2
> year olds in our politics and long term outlooks.? All
> our politicians do is
> worry about their re-election in the next 2 years.?
> They cannot face the
> really big issues that need to be solved without
> jeopardizing their
> re-election by the me-first, screw-them electorate.?
> The voters only have
> the attention span from one radio talk show to the next.
>
> So since the Russians are now the only manned space program
> that can provide
> the ride, I guess they get to call it whatever they
> want.? Our guys worked
> VERY HARD to build it and deliver it against unbelieveable
> pressures and
> bureaucratic issues, but the only way to get it to ISS was
> to give it to the
> Russians.
>
> Sigh...
> Bob, WB4APR




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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:07:49 -0300
From: Bruce Robertson <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  report of QRP ARISSAT-1 transponder operation
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<CA++Umbntbfh8JDTqjJmPSybxPdZRkirOKCQ-+10g3=anKM2FRg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I thought the members of the list would be glad to read the following
from Bob, WB4SON, written on the funcube list:

"Guys I keep reading false rumors here about big-guns or high power
needed to access ARISSAT. That is NOT correct. I had no issue hearing
my signal on the downlink. I'm using omnidirectional low gain antennas
(egg beaters) and 5 watts produced a S8 signal that was at least 5 S
units above the noise. I have NO doubt 1 watt will produce a fine
downlink signal

What did or did not happen during the launch makes no difference now
as it is working fantastically well

Try it. Enjoy it. No worries!!!"

73, Bruce
VE9QRP

--
http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:10:42 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Juno On Its Way To Jupiter with LEGO toys
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkNs+5uAC5XnDia92kexsdFunmsfT+K-fw7WN7whfJcrjA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Trevor . <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:

> --- On Fri, 5/8/11, B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > The launch went smoothly this morning
> > though it was delayed by about three
> > quarters of an hour due to a leak.
> >
> > Now we have to wait several years before Juno reaches
> > Jupiter.
>
> Complete with 3 toys from the Danish LEGO company - I guess it's one way to
> raise cash to fund the mission. See
>
>
>
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/08/05/lego-figures-flying-on-nasa-jupiter-
probe/
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
I can imagine what would have happened if they sent 3 named Dave, Frank, and
Hal.  ("I'm sorry, Dave.....")

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 15:40:39 -0700
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arissat-1 Commanding?
To: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C7167.4080909@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 8/5/11 11:03 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:
> I saw on one of the NASA announcements that the snarffled 70cm antenna would
> mean no commanding of the bird.  (This was probably before it was realized
> that that receive actually seems to work).  But the question I have is
> whether there IS some commanding of the bird possible. I guess you have to
> be able to turn it off to satisfy the FCC (true?) but can other things be
> done?  I assume/home that the command channel is encrypted, so disclosing
> its existance is not compromising the bird.

The satellite is operating under a Russian license, so I assume the FCC
would have no jurisdiction over it.

In any event, the fact that the transponder seems to work well indicates
that the spacecraft should have no trouble hearing commands.

Phil



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:03:56 -0700
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
To: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx sarex@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C76DC.9000003@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 8/5/11 2:14 PM, Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF wrote:
> As many have said before.
> Perhaps we should get away from the American system of allocating Oscar
> numbers and use the real world name that the builders and launch
> agencies use.

It's longstanding tradition to give a spacecraft a pre-launch name and
then assign it another once it successfully reaches orbit.  To minimize
the confusion, the pre-launch name usually ends with a letter from a
sequence while the orbital name ends with a sequential number.

This tradition dates from the days when launch vehicles were rather
unreliable and many spacecraft didn't make it to space. Thus holes in
the numerical sequence were avoided.

E.g., the weather satellite NOAA-E became NOAA-8 when launched in 1983.
Phase 3-B became AMSAT-Oscar-10 when it was launched in 1983. Phase 3-D
became AMSAT-Oscar-40, and so on. But Phase 3-A, which was lost in the
launch failure of Ariane L-02 in 1980, never received an Oscar number
because it did not reach orbit.

We do seem to have a lot of names for this one. So far we have:

ARISSat-1
[i.e., Amateur Radio on the International Space station, Satellite #1]

RadioSKAF-B (????? ????-B)

Cedar (????)

Does anyone know if it'll also get an Oscar number?

73, Phil, KA9Q








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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:05:17 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arissat-1 Commanding?
To: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Message-ID: <F193D026-50C0-4A9E-A863-CB965CA8F8D8@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=windows-1252

The radio regulations govern here.  Both the USA and Russian administrations
are signatory parties, along with about all others around the world.

The pertinent provision is:

RR 22.1  Space stations shall be fitted with devices to ensure immediate
cessation of
their radio emissions by telecommand, whenever such cessation is required
under the provisions
of these Regulations.

This applies to all space stations in all radio communication services.

More information on this topic is at Controlling Satellites on the IARU web
site.

Responsibility for the space station lies with the authorizing administration.

I hope this helps.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA


On 5-Aug-2011, at 06:40 PM, Phil Karn wrote:

> On 8/5/11 11:03 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:
>> I saw on one of the NASA announcements that the snarffled 70cm antenna
would
>> mean no commanding of the bird.  (This was probably before it was realized
>> that that receive actually seems to work).  But the question I have is
>> whether there IS some commanding of the bird possible. I guess you have to
>> be able to turn it off to satisfy the FCC (true?) but can other things be
>> done?  I assume/home that the command channel is encrypted, so disclosing
>> its existance is not compromising the bird.
>
> The satellite is operating under a Russian license, so I assume the FCC
> would have no jurisdiction over it.
>
> In any event, the fact that the transponder seems to work well indicates
> that the spacecraft should have no trouble hearing commands.
>
> Phil
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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http://afeller.us



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 18:07:38 -0500
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: MacDoppler Help
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DB2E5148-DEFC-4C91-B37B-AB11C15ECDF9@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I just downloaded the Celestrak keps and Radiskaf-B is in the list when you
scroll all the way down.
It doesn't show up when one selects the AMSAT keps.

73 Mike K5TRI

On Aug 5, 2011, at 2:43 PM, James Luhn wrote:

> I saw the post by WA4SCA in regards to AMATEUR.TXT and ARISSAT-1.  I am
> runningMacDoppler and I am such a newbie.  Can someone tell me how to
> get MacDoppler to see the Keps for RADIOSCAF?  I have downloaded keps
> from AMSAT and Celestrak.  I can be such a slow learner.  At least I am
> having fun without or without an antenna on the ARISSAT or even my home
> station.
>
> Thanks for any help!
>
> 73,
> James
> W5AOO
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 00:09:48 +0100 (BST)
From: John Heath <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ARISSat 70cms antenna?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1312585788.66447.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi satelliters,

Delighted to see on the satus page http://oscar.dcarr.org/?that the
transponder
is working.
Congratulations to everyone involved.

What was the problem/fix for the antenna problem that delayed the launch to
later in the spacewalk.

Can't find anything new on the amsat.org web site

73 John G7HIA

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:11:58 -0700
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx sarex@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C78BE.7000003@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 8/5/11 2:33 PM, Ted wrote:

> Americans built it. They should have the naming rights.
>
> Just because some Russians threw it off their space ship does not give them
> the right to name it (it just gives them the right to break it!)

Americans built the spacecraft BUS. That's most of the spacecraft, but
not all of it. It is also carrying a scientific experiment built by
Russian university students. This is a highly significant part of the
spacecraft in that it formed much of the justification for the Russians
to agree to launch it.

And no, I don't consider the launch of a satellite equivalent to a trip
on a container ship. Value-wise, even a launch to LEO is literally worth
its weight in gold. It is an extremely valuable service and one well
worth some delays, inconveniences -- and bumps -- to get.

Phil, KA9Q




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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:22:15 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
To: "'Trevor .'" <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"'Bob Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, John Krol
<jsakrol@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Anthony Izzo <tonyiz@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, bill <JECZALIKB@xxx.xxx>,
W2FT@xxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001801cc53c6$83c41ec0$8b4c5c40$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1



Congrats to Gould- Looks like a great spot for AMSAT.
Hopefully we can pass all this STEM info to many in the teaching
profession and make them aware of this great science item and tool...
73,
Dee, NB2F


Bob, Politicians are the same the world over.

I note that some of your Politicians seem paranoid about the USA's
biggest trading partner, Beijing. I don't mind betting that in a few
years time your Politicians will be falling over themselves to vote
billions of tax dollars to the Space program to prevent the US falling
into 3rd place behind the Russian Federation and Beijing.

Fortunately few ever see the name that's allocated to keps. Gould's TV
interview,
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/178784/2/STEM-education-reaches-new-h
eights , showed how amateurs can use the media to promote the great
acheivement of the ARISSat team.

73 Trevor M5AKA

--- On Fri, 5/8/11, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >> ,,,it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'. (no
> >> ARRISat-1' listing). Will that eventually change?
>
> I chuckle.?
>
> We in the USA have virtually abandoned manned space. We
> have no manned space
> flight vehicles because all we do is squabble with the
> attention span of 2
> year olds in our politics and long term outlooks.? All
> our politicians do is
> worry about their re-election in the next 2 years.?
> They cannot face the
> really big issues that need to be solved without
> jeopardizing their
> re-election by the me-first, screw-them electorate.?
> The voters only have
> the attention span from one radio talk show to the next.
>
> So since the Russians are now the only manned space program
> that can provide
> the ride, I guess they get to call it whatever they
> want.? Our guys worked
> VERY HARD to build it and deliver it against unbelieveable
> pressures and
> bureaucratic issues, but the only way to get it to ISS was
> to give it to the
> Russians.
>
> Sigh...
> Bob, WB4APR


_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:29:26 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arissat-1 Commanding?   with better link to
article
To: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Message-ID: <AF8E8E15-4BA2-41C0-A23F-EF63DF87376C@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=windows-1252

The radio regulations govern here.  Both the USA and Russian administrations
are signatory parties, along with about all others around the world.

The pertinent provision is:

RR 22.1  Space stations shall be fitted with devices to ensure immediate
cessation of
their radio emissions by telecommand, whenever such cessation is required
under the provisions
of these Regulations.

This applies to all space stations in all radio communication services.

More information on this topic is at 
http://www.iaru.org/satellite/ControllingSatellitesV27.pdf  on the IARU web
site.

Responsibility for the space station lies with the authorizing administration.

I hope this helps.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA


On 5-Aug-2011, at 06:40 PM, Phil Karn wrote:

> On 8/5/11 11:03 AM, Burns Fisher wrote:
>> I saw on one of the NASA announcements that the snarffled 70cm antenna
would
>> mean no commanding of the bird.  (This was probably before it was realized
>> that that receive actually seems to work).  But the question I have is
>> whether there IS some commanding of the bird possible. I guess you have to
>> be able to turn it off to satisfy the FCC (true?) but can other things be
>> done?  I assume/home that the command channel is encrypted, so disclosing
>> its existance is not compromising the bird.
>
> The satellite is operating under a Russian license, so I assume the FCC
> would have no jurisdiction over it.
>
> In any event, the fact that the transponder seems to work well indicates
> that the spacecraft should have no trouble hearing commands.
>
> Phil
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




http://afeller.us



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:02:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  MacDoppler help
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1312588972.90419.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

MacDoppler help

click (lower left) to ADD SATELLITE
go down to bottom of list and click on RADIOSCAF-B
next click macdoppler-preferences-modes
go down to bottom of list and click on RADIOSCAF-B
click the + sign at the top left of the window 2 times
this will add 2 lines to fill in the freq information
fill in the satellite info of up freq, dn freq, name of different modes
modes is BSSB for the usb mode, B FM for the FM mode
when finished click the little arrow on the far left from down to aiming right
click the red dot at the top left to close the window
now when you select RADIOSCAF-B at the bottom of the page you should see
on the right the different freqs you just entered.

That is all.

I have already did that and it works



Perry WB8OTH
 Perry   py41@xxx.xxx
sent from my Apple IMac


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:45:51 -0400
From: "John Henderson N4NAB" <jah@xx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AClog/LOTW Working and uploaded back to 7/05
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000601cc53b0$a9e1d180$fda57480$@xx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Thanks to all who offered guidance, especially W5MPC Mike... all is working
now. I have uploaded SAT logs back to July 2005 so hopefully some of us will
get some confirmations!

r/

John N4NAB




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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:39:51 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
To: <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W58F68F10BEFA68CDF2A0A4D63C0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Trevor...there is not a chance that is going to happen.  The US is on the
verge of a revolution in space affairs (to mimic Admiral Bill Owens) and we
are about to leave a technowelfare program and go into something truly free
enterprise.  Watch

Robert G. Oler WB5MZO life member AMSAT ARRL NARS

> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 23:04:09 +0100
> From: m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx bruninga@xxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: A rose is a rose... is a rose
>
> Bob, Politicians are the same the world over.
>
> I note that some of your Politicians seem paranoid about the USA's biggest
trading partner, Beijing. I don't mind betting that in a few years time your
Politicians will be falling over themselves to vote billions of tax dollars
to the Space program to prevent the US falling into 3rd place behind the
Russian Federation and Beijing.

>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
> --- On Fri, 5/8/11, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >> ,,,it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'. (no
> > >> ARRISat-1' listing). Will that eventually change?
> >
> > I chuckle.
> >
> > We in the USA have virtually abandoned manned space. We
> > have no manned space
> > flight vehicles because all we do is squabble with the
> > attention span of 2
> > year olds in our politics and long term outlooks.  All
> > our politicians do is
> > worry about their re-election in the next 2 years.
> > They cannot face the
> > really big issues that need to be solved without
> > jeopardizing their
> > re-election by the me-first, screw-them electorate.
> > The voters only have
> > the attention span from one radio talk show to the next.
> >
> > So since the Russians are now the only manned space program
> > that can provide
> > the ride, I guess they get to call it whatever they
> > want.  Our guys worked
> > VERY HARD to build it and deliver it against unbelieveable
> > pressures and
> > bureaucratic issues, but the only way to get it to ISS was
> > to give it to the
> > Russians.
> >
> > Sigh...
> > Bob, WB4APR
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		

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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:48:37 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C5725.11804.13645B@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

On 5 Aug 2011 at 19:39, i8cvs wrote:

Date sent:      	Fri, 05 Aug 2011 19:39:33 +0200
From:           	i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject:        	[amsat-bb] Re: ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks
To:             	vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx amsatindia@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Copies to:      	Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx

> Hi Nitin ,VU3TYG
>
> I would like to tanks again AMSAT India for the effort made to launch and
> commandind the satellite VO-52 the only one actually usable for decent CW
> and SSB QSO's !
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>

I add it was against through all patronizing commenting when they first show
up their protoboard model with jumping wires, I still remember
some making jokes about it...

He's up and running fine with a back up transponder in bonus!

"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE




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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:54:59 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Arissat-1 Commanding?
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On 5 Aug 2011 at 14:03, Burns Fisher wrote:

Date sent:      	Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:03:56 -0400
From:           	Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject:        	[amsat-bb]  Arissat-1 Commanding?
To:             	amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

> I saw on one of the NASA announcements that the snarffled 70cm antenna would
> mean no commanding of the bird.  (This was probably before it was realized
> that that receive actually seems to work).  But the question I have is
> whether there IS some commanding of the bird possible. I guess you have to
> be able to turn it off to satisfy the FCC (true?) but can other things be
> done?  I assume/home that the command channel is encrypted, so disclosing
> its existance is not compromising the bird.
>
> 73, Burns W2BFJ
> _______________________________________________
As per my and other linear transponder test signal pass through but they are
not too strong even if some report seems to confirm 1 watt
power their EIRP is unknown assuming the command channel is on UHF but you
know the word "assume" definition:)


"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 16:59:16 -0400
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 over West Malaysia
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On 5 Aug 2011 at 10:28, Phil Karn wrote:

Date sent:      	Fri, 05 Aug 2011 10:28:23 -0700
From:           	Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject:        	[amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 over West Malaysia
To:             	"Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC)" <9w2qc@xxxxx.xxx>
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> On 8/4/11 8:04 PM, Sion Chow Q. C. (9W2QC) wrote:
> >
> > 2. Does the CW beacon needs to be really +/- 100 Hz of the yellow
> > line?  The reason for this is that I would like to see how much offset
> > should I apply to doppler control, for possible automated reception.
>
> Tuning the CW beacon to 500 Hz automatically centers the BPSK1000 signal
> at 1500 Hz. I didn't put in a whole lot of frequency tolerance in the
> BPSK-1000 demodulator because the signal is 2 kHz wide from null to null
> and it would begin to be chopped off by the edges of the receiver's SSB
> filter. So while you should ideally tune to +/- 100 Hz you might go to
> +/- 200 or even 300 Hz and it will *probably* still work, but I wouldn't
> go too much wider.
>
> Go ahead and experiment; I'd be interested in any reports on how well my
> demodulator (which is incorporated into both the Windows and Mac
> telemetry programs) tolerates tuning errors. Frequency acquisition and
> data synchronization are the hardest parts of any digital demodulator,
> and I'd like to know where there's room for improvement.
>
> 73, Phil
>
>
>
I try to decoded the last 30deg pass this morning but no luck even if the
blue marker remain steady on the CW bump nothing "lock" as far i
can tell any QRM or QRN seems to hold the lock process and on VHF here i
have some intermod... living about half a mile from a cell/paget
tower?

"-"


Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE




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