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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (George Henry)
2. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (George Henry)
3. NASA Accepting CubeSat Proposals (Clint Bradford)
4. MacDoppler Help (James Luhn)
5. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (Ted)
6. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
(Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
7. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (Ted)
8. Re: ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks (i8cvs)
9. ARISSat-1 WAV file (Edwin M. "EMike" McCardel, KC8YLD)
10. ARISSat-1 reception report. (on3swy@xxxxxx.xxxx
11. Juno On Its Way To Jupiter (B J)
12. Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
Celestrak (Greg D.)
13. A rose is a rose... is a rose (Bob Bruninga)
14. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (Alan P. Biddle)
15. Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak (George Henry)
16. Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
Celestrak (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
17. Re: Juno On Its Way To Jupiter with LEGO toys (Trevor .)
18. Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
Celestrak (Ted)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:02:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, SAREX-BB
<SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1312570960.7815.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Good, 'cause I can't remember my SpaceTrack username or password...
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
> To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; SAREX-BB <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 1:46:31 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
>
> Just checked the latest AMATEUR.TXT download from Celestrak, used by many
> tracking programs. ARRISat-1 is now included, though with the alternate
> name RADIOSCAF-B. Thanks as always to Tim Kelso.
>
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:15:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, SAREX-BB <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1312571725.70437.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Also good because ISS keps are no longer valid for ARISSat-1, as it is now
slightly ahead of the ISS, so AOS/LOS and doppler values would all be off.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
> To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; SAREX-BB
><SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 2:02:40 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
>
> Good, 'cause I can't remember my SpaceTrack username or password...
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 12:37:14 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA Accepting CubeSat Proposals
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <75C39998-70B8-4D5A-8F7F-6276C4EF9444@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
August 05, 2011
Joshua Buck
Headquarters, Washington
202-358-1100
jbuck@xxxx.xxx
RELEASE: 11-256
NASA ANNOUNCES NEXT OPPORTUNITY FOR CUBESAT SPACE MISSIONS
WASHINGTON -- NASA is seeking proposals for small satellite payloads
to fly on rockets planned to launch between 2012 and 2014. These
miniature spacecraft, known as CubeSats, could be auxiliary payload
on previously planned missions.
CubeSats are a class of research spacecraft called nanosatellites. The
cube-shaped satellites are approximately four inches long, have a
volume of about one quart and weigh less than three pounds.
Proposed CubeSat investigations must be consistent with NASA's
Strategic Plan and the Education Strategic Coordination Framework.
The research should address aspects of science, exploration,
technology development, education or operations.
Applicants must submit proposals electronically by 4:30 p.m. EST on
Nov. 14. NASA will select the payloads by Jan. 30, 2012. Selection
does not guarantee a launch opportunity. The selected spacecraft will
be eligible for flight after final negotiations when a launch
opportunity arises. NASA will not provide funding for the development
of the small satellites.
NASA recently announced the results from the second round of the
CubeSat Launch Initiative. From the first two launch initiatives, 32
payloads made the short-list for launch opportunities in 2011 and
2012. They are eligible for launch pending an appropriate opportunity
and final negotiations. The satellites come from 18 states: Alabama,
Alaska, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland,
Massachusetts, Michigan, Missouri, Montana, New Hampshire, New
Mexico, New York, Pennsylvania, Utah and Virginia.
For additional information about NASA's CubeSat Launch Initiative
program, visit:
http://go.nasa.gov/puk9K2
http://go.nasa.gov/CubeSatOp
For more information about NASA's Strategic Plan, visit:
http://www.nasa.gov/budget
For more information about NASA's Education Strategic Coordination
Framework, visit:
http://go.nasa.gov/nRCvjH
-end-
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 14:43:52 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] MacDoppler Help
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C47F8.9020407@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I saw the post by WA4SCA in regards to AMATEUR.TXT and ARISSAT-1. I am
runningMacDoppler and I am such a newbie. Can someone tell me how to
get MacDoppler to see the Keps for RADIOSCAF? I have downloaded keps
from AMSAT and Celestrak. I can be such a slow learner. At least I am
having fun without or without an antenna on the ARISSAT or even my home
station.
Thanks for any help!
73,
James
W5AOO
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:47:12 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"'SAREX-BB'" <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <98D531F8DBF7412EAFE4383EEF245313@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
(no ARRISat-1' listing)
Will that eventually change?
Ted K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:47 AM
To: AMSAT-BB; SAREX-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
Just checked the latest AMATEUR.TXT download from Celestrak, used by many
tracking programs. ARRISat-1 is now included, though with the alternate
name RADIOSCAF-B. Thanks as always to Tim Kelso.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 20:17:23 +0000
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'SAREX-BB' <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>, 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E3C4FD3.5040404@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Why does it need to change.
On 08/05/2011 07:47 PM, Ted wrote:
> Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
> (no ARRISat-1' listing)
>
> Will that eventually change?
>
> Ted K7TRK
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:26:40 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: "'Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF'" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'SAREX-BB' <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>, 'AMSAT-BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <C3E1AC0F056E4B9E987ECFC212793C65@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Well, every bit of information I have read here and elsewhere would lead one
to the conclusion that the satellite name is 'ARISSat-1'. Therefore it seems
logical that it would be named so in the information provided by the people
that provide the keps.
Of course it doesn't 'need to change' as you put it. For all I care they can
call it 'Bob'.
73, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF [mailto:nigel@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:17 PM
To: Ted
Cc: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx 'AMSAT-BB'; 'SAREX-BB'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
Why does it need to change.
On 08/05/2011 07:47 PM, Ted wrote:
> Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
> (no ARRISat-1' listing)
>
> Will that eventually change?
>
> Ted K7TRK
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:39:33 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks
To: <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsatindia@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <000901cc5396$a406a340$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Nitin ,VU3TYG
I would like to tanks again AMSAT India for the effort made to launch and
commandind the satellite VO-52 the only one actually usable for decent CW
and SSB QSO's !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nitin Muttin" <vu3tyg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsatindia@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; <eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISSat-1 Report and Thanks
> It was a great pleasure to watch the deployment of the ARRISSat-1 from the
> ISS on NASA TV. On behalf of AMSAT INDIA I would like to thank all at
AMSAT
> , ARRISSat project team for enabling this capability for the Amateur Radio
> fraternity. I was able to hear the signals on 145.950 during the 03:57 UTC
> on 08/5/2011 over India and decoded a SSTV image and heard the CW on
145.919
> but was unable to decode the telemetry using ARISSATLM application. Will
try
> again to decode the telemetry and also the linear transponder. Many Radio
> Hams in Bangalore have reported hearing the signals on 145.950.
>
>
>
> The image can be found at http://vu3tyg.addr.com/ARRISSAT/Arissat.jpg
>
>
>
> The recording of the voice message, SSTV and CW can be heard at
> http://vu3tyg.addr.com/ARRISSAT/rec0805-092348.mp3
>
>
>
> 73's
>
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:27:35 -0400
From: "Edwin M. \"EMike\" McCardel, KC8YLD" <kc8yld@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 WAV file
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<CAM5+souH3igU4j4ZDx-1BinoObn-5ajmGGyQ9Pxbbf-wm7TH4Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I made this recording this morning from EN80um beginning Approx. 1124 UTC
http://www.kc8yld.com/arissat.wav
Recording was made on an Olympus handheld digital recorder. My equipment was
Wouxan handheld and Arrow Antenna. I had my Yaesu VX-8R equiped with a
rubber duck antenna laying on the ground. Near the closest approach I could
also hear the transmission through it. Load enough at times I turned down
its volume so not to interfere with my recording.
>From the recording I was able to decode the SSTV transmissions using the
SSTV app on my iPad (I didn't think of trying this direct in the field)
these images are at
http://www.kc8yld.com/5Aug2011-1126.png
http://www.kc8yld.com/5Aug2011-1128.png<http://www.kc8yld.com/5Aug2011-1126.pn
g>
http://www.kc8yld.com/5Aug2011-1130.png<http://www.kc8yld.com/5Aug2011-1126.pn
g>
EMike, KC8YLD
E. Michael McCardel, KC8YLD
Ohio Section Affiliated Club Coordinator, ARRL
NO CODE REQUIRED
When All Else Fails... There's Amateur Radio
Learn more via www.ARRL.org
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:57:30 -0400
From: on3swy@xxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 reception report.
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx secretword@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: on3swy@xxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<c2c608276b34d21fd0704ef07277293f.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Amsat, Arissat1.org,
My name is Gert (ON3SWY) and I was able to receive the ARISSat1 2m FM
downlink signal this morning CET. It goes without saying that I am very
interested in receiving your PDF certificate.
I received the FM signal with an honest 59.
The secret word copied from my end was "Eagle".
Full name: Gert Verswyvel.
Date/Time of reception: Aug 5 2011 05:38 AM CET (03:38 UTC)
E-mail address for certificate: on3swy@xxxxxx.xxx
Receiving a signal from an orbiting object for the very first time was
quite an experience.
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Gert, ON3SWY
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:44:45 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Juno On Its Way To Jupiter
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkMjU0ubVvtmzwy8fcBDaryJgyM+0Kg2ZmKbwt1MtiiQyQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
The launch went smoothly this morning though it was delayed by about three
quarters of an hour due to a leak.
Now we have to wait several years before Juno reaches Jupiter.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 13:49:53 -0700
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W289936F3CA7EBFF086CAD0A93C0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
It doesn't.
But it speaks to what many are feeling - well, speaking for myself at least
- that it would be a really good idea, politically, that when ARISSat-1 gets
an Oscar number, it should have an AO-prefix, not an RS-prefix.
There, it's been said.
Greg KO6TH
> Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 20:17:23 +0000
> From: nigel@xxxxx.xxx
> To: k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx
> CC: SAREX@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [sarex] Re: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
>
> Why does it need to change.
>
> On 08/05/2011 07:47 PM, Ted wrote:
> > Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
> > (no ARRISat-1' listing)
> >
> > Will that eventually change?
> >
> > Ted K7TRK
>
> ----
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:55:51 -0400
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] A rose is a rose... is a rose
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <057601cc53b2$0fb70b00$2f252100$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> ,,,it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'. (no
>> ARRISat-1' listing). Will that eventually change?
I chuckle.
We in the USA have virtually abandoned manned space. We have no manned space
flight vehicles because all we do is squabble with the attention span of 2
year olds in our politics and long term outlooks. All our politicians do is
worry about their re-election in the next 2 years. They cannot face the
really big issues that need to be solved without jeopardizing their
re-election by the me-first, screw-them electorate. The voters only have
the attention span from one radio talk show to the next.
So since the Russians are now the only manned space program that can provide
the ride, I guess they get to call it whatever they want. Our guys worked
VERY HARD to build it and deliver it against unbelieveable pressures and
bureaucratic issues, but the only way to get it to ISS was to give it to the
Russians.
Sigh...
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:56:35 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: "'Ted'" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <91C61A682EE64271BCE2C53FB67C9A42@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Ted,
No, the first name assigned usually sticks. A few times they have initially
assigned a name to the wrong object. Even in that case, they just swap the
names around. Remember, it has a Russian callsign, so that is as logical a
choice as another. Some programs such as SATPC32 allow you to change the
designation to something else, such as ARRISat-1 or Ethel, if it suits you.
;)
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: Ted [mailto:k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:47 PM
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx 'AMSAT-BB'; 'SAREX-BB'
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
(no ARRISat-1' listing)
Will that eventually change?
Ted K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:47 AM
To: AMSAT-BB; SAREX-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
Just checked the latest AMATEUR.TXT download from Celestrak, used by many
tracking programs. ARRISat-1 is now included, though with the alternate
name RADIOSCAF-B. Thanks as always to Tim Kelso.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:02:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1312578153.78475.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
You can certainly edit the keps file in Notepad or any other text editor to
display ARISSAT-1 if you prefer... one nice feature of SatPC32 is the
"AmsatNames" file, which maps the NORAD or international designator of any
satellite in the keps file to whatever name you wish.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; SAREX-BB
><SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Fri, August 5, 2011 2:47:12 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from Celestrak
>
> Just updated my HRD Sat program and it now lists keps for 'Radioscaf-B'.
> (no ARRISat-1' listing)
>
> Will that eventually change?
>
> Ted K7TRK
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2011 21:14:53 +0000
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: sarex@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3C5D4D.6010501@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
As many have said before.
Perhaps we should get away from the American system of allocating Oscar
numbers and use the real world name that the builders and launch
agencies use.
On 08/05/2011 08:49 PM, Greg D. wrote:
> It doesn't.
>
> But it speaks to what many are feeling - well, speaking for myself at
least - that it would be a really good idea, politically, that when
ARISSat-1 gets an Oscar number, it should have an AO-prefix, not an RS-prefix.
>
> There, it's been said.
>
> Greg KO6TH
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 22:30:49 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Juno On Its Way To Jupiter with LEGO toys
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1312579849.10608.YahooMailClassic@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
--- On Fri, 5/8/11, B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The launch went smoothly this morning
> though it was delayed by about three
> quarters of an hour due to a leak.
>
> Now we have to wait several years before Juno reaches
> Jupiter.
Complete with 3 toys from the Danish LEGO company - I guess it's one way to
raise cash to fund the mission. See
http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/08/05/lego-figures-flying-on-nasa-jupiter-
probe/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:33:17 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available
from Celestrak
To: "'Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF'" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sarex@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7AA52E6D2F00464997FEB16660DCE775@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
'use the real world name that the builders and launch
agencies use.'
Then how do you decide who gets the right to name? The builder? Or the
'launcher'?
Yaesu builds a radio in Japan and sells it in the USA. It's still called a
Yaesu. The name does not change because it came here on a Maersk cargo ship.
It does not become a 'Maersk' does it?
Americans built it. They should have the naming rights.
Just because some Russians threw it off their space ship does not give them
the right to name it (it just gives them the right to break it!)
K7TRK
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Behalf Of Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 2:15 PM
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [sarex] Re: Re: ARRISat-1 Keps now available from
Celestrak
As many have said before.
Perhaps we should get away from the American system of allocating Oscar
numbers and use the real world name that the builders and launch
agencies use.
On 08/05/2011 08:49 PM, Greg D. wrote:
> It doesn't.
>
> But it speaks to what many are feeling - well, speaking for myself at
least - that it would be a really good idea, politically, that when
ARISSat-1 gets an Oscar number, it should have an AO-prefix, not an
RS-prefix.
>
> There, it's been said.
>
> Greg KO6TH
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