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Today's Topics:
1. FW: Confirming Deployment? (ps8rf Piraja)
2. Re: ARISSat-1 - LED Status? (Daniel Lind)
3. Re: ARISSat missing antenna (Phil Karn)
4. Re: Crew handleing of ARISSat-1 (STeve Andre')
5. ARISSat-1 Deployed ! (Gould Smith)
6. Re: ARISSat-1 Deployed ! (Andrew Glasbrenner)
7. Re: ARISSat-1 Deployed ! (Michael Chen)
8. ARISSat: UHF Antenna maybe up coiled up! (D Carlisle)
9. Re: ARISSat-1 - Photos from NASA TV (Mark L. Hammond)
10. Re: gps accuracy (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
11. ARISSat-1 NOT Deployed - But WILL Be (Clint Bradford)
12. Missing Antenna ? (Trevor .)
13. Re: Confirming Deployment? (Daniel Lind)
14. Re: ARISSat-1 - Photos from NASA TV (Joe)
15. Re: ARISSat-1 - LED Status? (George Henry)
16. ARISSat-1 deployment time correction (Gould Smith)
17. ARRISat-1 just received (Shamai Opfer)
18. Good stills on Flickr (Mark L. Hammond)
19. Three Words ... (Andy Kellner)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:00:31 -0300
From: ps8rf Piraja <ps8rf@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FW: Confirming Deployment?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi
Clint Bradford,
until the time of 18:15 UTC was not released. Right now we do not have
image from NASA TV, but we have audio and they are now preparing for its
launch.
73, Piraj? PS8RF
The Amateur Radio is supportive and helpful in any circumstance.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 12:06:15 -0700
From: Daniel Lind <kf1buz@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 - LED Status?
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I did not hear anything like that.....
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:49 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 - LED Status?
Did the Russian astronauts re-state the LED status before deployment? Or has
it been transmitting since they first flipped switches this morning?
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 12:12:35 -0700
From: Phil Karn <karn@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat missing antenna
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On 8/3/11 11:55 AM, Joe wrote:
> worst case they don't have a 6" long chunk of wire that could shove into
> the connector on the box?
Or borrow one of the existing antennas mounted on the exterior of the ISS...
I guess we'll soon find out just how much of the antenna blade was left
on the connector. If there's any at all, it ought to be able to hear
somebody with a kilowatt or two...
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 15:16:53 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Crew handleing of ARISSat-1
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On 08/03/11 12:10, Andy Kellner wrote:
> Is it just me, or did it look that crew did handle the satellite extremely
unprofessional ?
> The removal of the Solar Array covers was pretty uncoordinated. They
basically just ripped them off. Once outside they let the satellite bounce
around like a basketball. For several minutes the satellite was just left to
his own devices dangling from a teather, hitting the station all over the
place, while the Astronauts try to position themselves.
>
> Then they pulled it in and flipped the switches without any coordination
with the ground and apparently no regards of the order the switches are
supposed to be flipped. He then described the LED's he was seeing, and it
was pretty apparent that he didn't knew how it was _supposed_ to be look
like. This became even more apparent when they discussed how many antennas
are actually supposed to be attached to the satellite. One said : "I was
here 3 months earlier and there was only one". Is that the way to check that
the device is in a correct configuration ?
>
> Just to the end, when the decision has been made not to deploy, somebody
at the ground warned them to be careful not to break any solar arrays. IMHO
it is a miracle that the solar arrays are still intact, and I would not be
surprised if they broke of the second antenna because of careless handling.
>
> I understand that it must be very difficult to do all this is space in a
bulky space-suit. But nevertheless this is a Satellite which is fragile and
needs the be handled carefully. There are procedures to follow and checks to
make before the sat is deployed. If it would have come to the crew, they
would have just pushed it out and be done with it. This is all financed by
donations and build by volunteers. Many people put a lot of effort into
this. Its not that we can just build and launch another one, if they screw
it up. I think its simply unexcusable that the correct configuration of the
satellite has not been confirmed even before the spacewalk has started. Very
disappointing.
>
> Andreas Kellner - VK4FHAW
>
I think the reality of this is that activities like this need a champion on
board who is truly enthusiastic about this, as opposed to another thing
that ground control wants.
I do not know any of the history or politics behind this. I could see it
being that ham stuff onboard being pushed more by Americans, and
there has been some kind of subtle shift in things now that the Shuttle
is no more?
It's rather like getting time on Hubble. I once talked with someone who'd
done observations with it, and there was a lot of jossling over who did
what, when.
I am sorry to hear of the problems that happened. I suppose this is a
good lesson for kids, that nothing in space should be taken for granted.
This failed to be deployed once before? So a lesson to learn.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:27:23 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Deployed !
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0E4654955A3846ABB8FFA0BB142AE5A9@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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The ARISSat-1 space craft was deployed from the ISS today at 1443Z after a
hold based upon questions about the 70cm antenna.
Congratulations to the ARISSat-1 team! Now bring on those reception reports.
The ARISSat-1 satellite will be in High power mode (continuous transmission)
when in the sun and go to Low power (intermittent) mode when in eclipse.
73,
Gould
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 15:41:08 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Deployed !
To: Gould Smith <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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>From oscar.dcarr.org:
Telemetry Only
JR8LWY-QN12
2011-08-03
19:16-:30 UTC
So we have a report of it being heard!
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Gould Smith <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Aug 3, 2011 3:27 PM
>To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 Deployed !
>
>The ARISSat-1 space craft was deployed from the ISS today at 1443Z after a
hold based upon questions about the 70cm antenna.
>
>Congratulations to the ARISSat-1 team! Now bring on those reception reports.
>
>The ARISSat-1 satellite will be in High power mode (continuous
transmission) when in the sun and go to Low power (intermittent) mode when
in eclipse.
>
>73,
>Gould
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 03:41:17 +0800
From: Michael Chen <michael.bd5rv@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 Deployed !
To: Gould Smith <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Gould,
Congratulations to you and the entire team!
It seems that our JA friends have already had some reception reports.
http://oscar.dcarr.org/
Michael Chen, BD5RV/4
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 3:27 AM, Gould Smith <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The ARISSat-1 space craft was deployed from the ISS today at 1443Z after a
hold based upon questions about the 70cm antenna.
>
> Congratulations to the ARISSat-1 team! ?Now bring on those reception
reports.
>
> The ARISSat-1 satellite will be in High power mode (continuous
transmission) when in the sun and go to Low power (intermittent) mode when
in eclipse.
>
> 73,
> Gould
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:23:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: D Carlisle <w0uhf@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat: UHF Antenna maybe up coiled up!
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Just heard the announcer (1:18pm CDT) say the UHF antenna may be coiled up
inside. They will see if it can be uncoiled and may launch it still during
today's EVA.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:25:59 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 - Photos from NASA TV
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>, Amsat - BBs
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Still happening! Might get released soon.
Last comments from narrator was maybe whip is coiled up inside antenna base
and needs to be released...
Let's hope.
Mark N8MH
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>wrote:
> At 08:56 AM 8/3/2011 -0700, you wrote:
> >Fifty screenshots of ARISSat-1 taken from first 30 minutes of EVA29 ...
> >
> >https://www.me.com/gallery/#100271
> >
> >
> >Clint Bradford
>
> Thanks Clint,
>
> I had an appointment and couldn't watch "Damn work keeps getting in the way
> of fun". I hope somewhere we can download the spacewalk video later so I
> can see what happened.
>
> Vince
>
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--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:28:55 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: gps accuracy
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Jerry!
You said:
> If You are trying to confirm four courners , It's going to take You several
> minutes to correctly confirm 4 different coordinates . Just a thought .
Dave will only need to have the GPS at *one* location, which will be
the intersection of the 4 grids (40 degrees North, 124 degrees West).
As long as elements of his station are placed in all 4 grids around
the intersection, he should be fine. As he mentioned yesterday, he
is in contact with the ARRL Awards Desk to ensure that his station
would meet with their approval - if they chose to review his operation.
Even if the GPS has been powered on for 20 to 30 minutes, it will
probably take some amount of time to get the display to show the
"all zeroes" readout - and have it stay that way long enough for
the photos and/or video per the VUCC rules. I ran into that issue
last year near Chicago, trying to get my GPS receiver to stabilize
on the "all zeroes" display for a 4-grid intersection near the site of
the AMSAT Symposium (EN51/EN52/EN61/EN62, west of O'Hare
airport) long enough for the two photos. I had it powered on for
some time, but it's like interior decorating - move the station a
little this way, then a little that way, make sure the accuracy
figure stays below 20 feet, quickly get the camera to snap the
photos, and hope they are not blurry.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 11:36:05 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 NOT Deployed - But WILL Be
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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NOT deployed yet - but they are now talking about working on it.
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 19:39:22 +0100 (BST)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Missing Antenna ?
To: Thomas Frey <th.frey@xxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-OeQNgGoEnos/TLZd-jhQnuI/AAAAAAAAFz8/hVtu5Xc
14mY/s800/20101010__DSC8208%252520BW.jpg
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:43:00 -0700
From: Daniel Lind <kf1buz@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Confirming Deployment?
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Off it goes
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 11:30 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Confirming Deployment?
Confirming the deployment of ARISSat-1 approximately 11:17AM PDT / 1817
GMT/UTC?
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 13:48:33 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 - Photos from NASA TV
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Can we have your user name and password to look at these photos?
Joe WB9SBD
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/3/2011 10:56 AM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> Fifty screenshots of ARISSat-1 taken from first 30 minutes of EVA29 ...
>
> https://www.me.com/gallery/#100271
>
>
> Clint Bradford
>
>
>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:01:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1 - LED Status?
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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The switches were all placed in the "off" position after this morning's
aborted
launch attempt. According to the audio of this afternoon's launch, they were
turned back on prior to release. Sadly, no live video of the release, but
they
supposedly were taking pictures.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wed, August 3, 2011 1:48:30 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 - LED Status?
>
> Did the Russian astronauts re-state the LED status before deployment? Or
has it
>been transmitting since they first flipped
>
> switches this morning?
>
>
>
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:14:34 -0400
From: "Gould Smith" <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1 deployment time correction
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8F7AB883E81644D0AD09C812890D4225@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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In my haste to get the announcement out I put the wrong time zone in the
announcement - it should read
The ARISSat-1 space craft was deployed from the ISS today at 1443 EDT (1843
UTC) after a hold based upon questions about the 70cm antenna.
Congratulations to the ARISSat-1 team! Now bring on those reception reports.
Drew, KO4MA reported that a station in Japan, JR8LWY-QN12 reported on the
dcarr site the he receive ARISSat-1 telemetry at
2011-08-03 19:16-:30 UTC.
73,
Gould, WA4SXM
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 23:49:22 +0300
From: Shamai Opfer <shamai.opfer@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRISat-1 just received
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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Congratulations!
I have recorded sound [WAV files] of CW, FM, and SSTV. Looking now for the
right mail address to send them to.
73
from Shamai 4Z1WS
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:02:17 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good stills on Flickr
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/valkyries1/6005117203/in/set-72157627223306577/
Thanks to the ARISSat website for the link! http://www.arissat1.org/v3/
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 14:06:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andy Kellner <hawat1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Three Words ...
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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No .. Linear .. Transponder !
Thank you very much Alexander Samokutyaev, Sergei Volkov and Roscosmos for a
job well done.
VK4FHAW
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