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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Should I abandon full doppler correction? (Jim Jerzycke)
   2. Re: Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites (Jim Sanford)
   3.  Fw: Big Sunspot Notice (George and Cheryl Abbott)
   4.  ARISSat-1 Status (Clint Bradford)
   5. ARISSAT Setup File and Norton - Just cut it off...Norton	that
      is! (James Luhn)
   6. Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   7. ANS-209 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin -	ARISSat-1/KEDR
      (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   8.  ARISSat-1 Sked for August 3 (Clint Bradford)
   9. Re: Oscar-10 (KM9U)
  10. Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (Douglas Quagliana)
  11.  IC-910/ UT-106 (Bob- W7LRD)
  12.  Ao51 (mm0kjg)
  13. Re: Oscar-10 (Dave Guimont)
  14. Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (Alan P. Biddle)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:15:51 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Should I abandon full doppler correction?
To: "Stephen E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'Amsat BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E309C27.30309@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I've run full Doppler the last 5 or so years for the K6AA Field Day station.
It's only been the past three years I've had decent antennas, though!

73, Jim  KQ6EA

On 07/25/2011 03:16 AM, Stephen E. Belter wrote:
> As far as Field Day and full Doppler correction goes:
>
> > From listening and contacting them during FD, W5MSQ uses full Doppler
correction.  Andy MacAllister, W5ACM could tell you for certain.  They
finished first in 2007, 2008, and 2010.
>
> John Papay, K8YSE is part of the W8DXA satellite FD team, and they use
full Doppler correction.  They finished first in 2009 and third in 2010.
>
> I'm part of the satellite FD team for W9LDX, and we use full Doppler
correction.  We finished first in the AMSAT contest in 2006, and second in
2007, 2008, 2009, and 2010.  (The 2011 results have not been published yet.)
>
> So for the AMSAT FD contest, full Doppler is the norm for the teams near
the top of the standings.
>
> 73, Steve N9IP
> --
> Steve Belter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jim Sanford
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 5:51 PM
> To: Tom Schaefer, NY4I
> Cc: Amsat BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Should I abandon full doppler correction?
>
> All:
>
> For what it's worth, I think I prefer the manual doppler correction on the
highest frequency, which can be done manually.
> Full doppler essentially requires constant computer control of both tx& 
rx frequencies, AND a whole lot of accurate data.
>
> I've had similar experiences at Field Day, and was able to pick out the
guys doing full doppler, and rarely able to work them.
>
> For whatever my opinion is worth....
> 73,
> Jim
> wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx
>
>
> On 7/24/2011 5:17 PM, Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I just tried a nice pass on FO-29. I heard K9CIS on CW and W5BK from
Texas. In both cases, while I am using full doppler correction with my 9100
and MacDoppler, I suspect they are leaving the transmit frequency fixed as
they both changed frequency. K9CIS on CW was quite extreme in the Doppler
shift. I know that this is a by-product of me using full doppler to listen
to stations that are not, but it seems that the majority of the stations I
hear are NOT using flu doppler. I have asked this question before, but it
seems to be happening more frequently.
>>
>> Should I abandon full doppler correction? Another less black-and-white
step is that if I hear a station moving to adjust my settings so I am not
doing full doppler.
>>
>> Has anyone ever taken a survey to see how many satellite users actually
use full doppler. Am I assuming more guys use computers and anyone of the
multiple ways to do computer control that have ben available for years? Does
anyone ever talk about this in AMSAT circles? Sort of like the encouragement
one gives to people afraid of LOTW to try it? "Computers in the
shack...NEVER!" I exaggerate but it seems that way. Then again, being a
computer person and having computer capable rigs I realize I am skewed in my
expectations. I know there are guys working with old 271/471 pairs or even
the old FT726 out there. Great radios and a simple way to do it, but even
they have ways to do full doppler control and they have been out for 20 years.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Tom
>> Tom Schaefer, NY4I
>> ny4i@xxxx.xxx
>> EL88pb
>> Monitoring EchoLink node KJ4FEC-L 489389 DSTAR Capable  APRS: NY4I-15
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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>
> _______________________________________________
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>



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:17:53 -0400
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E308081.2060001@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

I agree.
Have a 475 forweak signal, and a 471 for microwave IF.  Good rigs.
73,
Jim
wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx


On 7/27/2011 3:54 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
> Find a IC 451 or IC471.  A oldy but a goodie.  Very reasonable on the
usual used markets, ebay, hamfests etc.
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "John Geiger"<aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "AMSAT-BB"<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:43:33 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites
>
> What are some of the best 70cm all mode radios to use on the satellites?  I
> am looking for a monoband radio, not one of the HF/VHF/UHF radios as I have
> the other bands covered already.  I would like one that is plenty sensitive
> on FM as well to receive the FM satellites.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:31:31 -0400
From: "George and Cheryl Abbott" <ka1ajf@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Fw: Big Sunspot Notice
To: "Lee Maisel" <maisel@xxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"Scott Bill Hirst" <scottbillhirst@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Brian & Becky Records"
<brianr1@xxx.xxx>,	"FHBliven bliven" <fbliven@xxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A4F3B45F610641E6AAE024DCB96F06DC@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Lee:FYI:It is  my understanding that a big solar flare preceded the massive
9.1 level earthquake in Japan on 3/11/11.We live in interesting times. 73
George,W1GMA(The Voice of Hopkinton).

-----Original Message-----
From: SpaceWeather.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:59 PM
To: SpaceWeather.com
Subject: Big Sunspot Notice

Space Weather News for July 27, 2011
http://spaceweather.com

BIG SUNSPOTS: After more than a week of quiet, solar activity is picking up
with the emergence of two large sunspot groups on the sun's northeastern
limb.  The active regions are crackling with C- and M-class solar flares.
So far none of the eruptions has been squarely Earth directed, but that
could change in the days ahead as solar rotation turns the sunspots to face
our planet. Visit http://spaceweather.com for images and more information.

SUNSPOT TELESCOPE:  Explore Scientific's White Light Solar Observing System
is perfect for monitoring large sunspots (and small ones too) and it is now
available in the Space Weather Store:
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:43:27 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ARISSat-1 Status
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F2885ABE-6DC7-4DF3-8E87-E1615524B3BA@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

The press-service of Russian Federal Space Agency and the PMU show no
"problems" with ARISSat-1-Kedr, and for
July 28 -

Operations and experiments on the International Space Station July 28, 2011
28 July, the Russian segment of International Space Station is planned to
continue work on preparations for the release
of the crew into space, including the installation of attachments on their
spacesuits, lighting and video cameras, the
preparation of a microsatellite "Cedar", as well as the installation of
mechanisms to connect the ships "Progress M-10M"
and "Progress M-11M," Control mikroekosfery habitat and maintenance of
coolant.

Fingers crossed,

Clint Bradford, K6LCS



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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:11:10 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSAT Setup File and Norton - Just cut it
off...Norton	that is!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E30A91E.3010902@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I posted earlier about Norton detecting a virus in the ARISSat-1 setup
file.  I guess I was getting excited and moving too fast in anticipation
of hearing a signal that I did not fully read the instructions.  The
ARISSAT-1 quick start  guide (
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/images/fck_images/ARISSatTLM-QuickStart%281%29.
pdf
) clearly says to cut off any virus software as the .exe may be
questioned.  I have been a ham for over 50 years and this satellite
stuff excites me as much as my first novice contact.

Sitting here patiently listening.....

73,
James
W5AOO


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:15:18 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002e01cc4cbb$707c9570$5175c050$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I did a little searching and this virus indication seems to show up for some
people on various downloads besides ARISSatTLM.

http://community.norton.com/t5/Norton-Internet-Security-Norton/What-is-WS-Re
putation-1/td-p/228251

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:17:39 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-209 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin -
ARISSat-1/KEDR
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002f01cc4cbb$c3756db0$4a604910$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-209.01
AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin ANS-209 - ARISSat-1/KEDR

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 209.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
July 28, 2011
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-209.01

ANS-208
In this Special Bulletin:

* Deployment of ARISSat-1/KEDR Satellite Expected August 3
* ARISSat-1/KEDR Test Transmissions Planned From ISS July 30-31

SILVER SPRING, MARYLAND (AMSAT News Service) After a postponed
deployment in February from the International Space Station (ISS),
the ARISSat-1/KEDR amateur radio satellite is expected to begin its
mission on August 3, 2011. This was the word received from Energia
official, Sergey Samburov during an ARISS teleconference on July 19.
Deployment of the craft is planned during EVA-29.

NASA TV will cover the EVA live starting at 1400 GMT on August 3.
1430: Hatch Open
1446: Egress ARISSat-1 and secure to airlock ladder
1452: Remove solar panel covers
1507: Translate to deploy site, activate PWR, TIMER1 and TIMER2
      switches, verify LEDs on, and deploy
(Internet streaming: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html)

ARISSat-1/KEDR is a satellite designed and built by amateur radio
operators to specifically interest students in scientific and tech-
nological careers. Through the use of ham radio equipment, students
and teachers should be able to access and utilize the satellite from
a classroom environment with minimal set up.

ARISSat-1/KEDR is a cooperative effort between AMSAT, ARISS (Amateur
Radio on the International Space Station,) RSC-Energia (The Russian
Space Agency) and NASA. The design, development and construction of
the satellite was done by AMSAT volunteers. Original plans called
for the satellite to be housed inside an old Russian spacesuit, but
when the suit became unavailable, a spaceframe was developed to house
the radio equipment and solar panels. The new satellite was named
ARISSat-1/KEDR. Another name for the spacecraft is RadioSkaf-V. The
transmitted callsign will be RS01S.

The mission was specifically designed as an education-based satellite.
Some of its broadcast features include a voice identification, voice,
digital and morse code telemetry, stored image and on-board camera
transmissions via Slow Scan TV and digital telemetry from a Russian
science experiment that will measure vacuum in earth's lower atmo-
sphere. Other aspects of the mission include CW (Morse code) and
voice message contests to interest students in participating along
with stored images submitted by students all over the world as part
of its payload.

ARISSat-1/KEDR Test Transmissions Planned From ISS July 30-31

Test transmissions from ARISSat-1/KEDR are scheduled to begin four
days prior to deployment at 19:15 UTC on July 30 and then continue
until 1430 UTC on July 31.

The satellite will be connected to an external antenna mounted on
the ISS during testing. During the test ARISSat-1/KEDR will be in
LOW power mode, this means that it will transmit about 40 seconds
and then shut down for 2 minutes and then transmit for again for
40 seconds.

To listen for ARISSat-1/KEDR signals, FM receivers should be tuned
to 145.950 MHz.  Even though the satellite will only have an output
of 250 mW on 2 meters, a standard FM handy talkie equipped with a
quarter-wave whip antenna should be able to receive the voice ID,
voice telemetry and greeting messages as the craft passes overhead.

SSTV transmissions may also be demodulated and viewed using a free
downloadable program such as MMSSTV that is available at:
http://mmhamsoft.amateur-radio.ca/pages/mmsstv.php.
For Mac users, Multiscan2 is available at:
http://web.me.com/kd6cji/MacSSTV/MultiScan.html.

Those planning to monitor voice broadcasts from ARISSat-1/KEDR
during the July 30 - 31 test are requested to make note of the
telemetry battery voltage values and UTC time, and then submit
their records by e-mail to: julytest@xxxxxxxx.xxx.

Digital telemetry will be sent at 145.920 MHz. Given the low duty
cycle of the spacecraft, those planning to receive the digital
telemetry are encouraged to record the entire signal band using
the FunCube dongle or SDR-IQ receivers. Software for demodulating
the BPSK-1000 telemetry is available at http://www.arissattlm.org;
the software Quick Start Guide is available on the link on the
http://www.amsat.org front page.

After it is deployed from the International Space Station,
ARISSat-1/KEDR is expected to be in orbit for a period of up to
six months.

More information on the transmission schedule and overall mission
of ARISSat-1/KEDR can be found at:

ARISSat-1/KEDR Web site: http://www.arissat1.org
AMSAT Web site:          http://www.amsat.org
ARISS  Web site:         http://www.ariss.org
ARISS Facebook Page:     Amateur Radio on the ISS (ARISS)
ARISS Twitter site:      @xxxxxxxxxxxx

The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT) is a non-profit,
volunteer organization which designs, builds and operates experi-
mental amateur radio satellites and promotes space education. We
work in partnership with government, industry, educational insti-
tutions and fellow amateur radio societies. We encourage technical
and scientific innovation, and promote the training and development
of skilled satellite and ground system designers and operators. Our
vision is to deploy satellite systems with the goal of providing
wide area and continuous coverage for amateur radio operators world-
wide. AMSAT is also an active participant in human space missions
and supports satellites developed in cooperation with the educational
community and other amateur satellite groups.

Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) is a volun-
teer program which inspires students, worldwide, to pursue careers
in science, technology, engineering and math through amateur radio
communications opportunities with the International Space Station
on-orbit crew. Students learn about life on board the ISS and explore
Earth from space through science and math activities. ARISS provides
opportunities for the school community (students, teachers, families
and local residents) to become more aware of the substantial benefits
of human space flight and the exploration and discovery that occur on
space flight journeys along with learning about technology and amateur
radio.

[ANS thanks the ARISSat-1/KEDR Team for the above information]




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:27:14 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ARISSat-1 Sked for August 3
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <39E3B56D-4B18-4E92-BC1D-8DE21CB9DD6F@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

>> ... Live NASA TV in HD of EVA-29 August 3 ...

Clear out your digital recorders ... make sure your TIVO has space ... What
an extraordinary event!

We will be talking about it on August 2 at 6PM PDT as we record the Ham
Nation video podcast -
the "Bob Heil and Gordon West" show in Leo LaPorte's TWIT.tv network. We'll
be discussing
working the FM ham satellites, and remind viewers to support AMSAT and
endeavours like ARISSat-1.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://twit.tv - click on LIVE 6PM PDT 0802, or
http://twit.tv/hn - to watch all Ham Nation episoides









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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:37:23 -0400
From: "KM9U" <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0A799EFB07C943A0A35EA6EC09D555A3@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I remember working Oscar 7 back about '81..'82. I homebrewed a stack of 4,
11 element 2m yagis just for the purpose. I used a Kenwood TR-9000 (I think)
for the uplink and a Kenwood TS-520s for the downlink. I don't even remember
how we used to determine when the passes were but I think it had something
to do with info published in QST.  Soon after that, life interfered and I
was inactive for many years. The most sad thing is that I didn't save my old
logbooks. So, If by some odd chance, someone has a record of a contact with
WD9JFY on the old bird, please let me know. Hindsight is always 20-20. :-((

Chuck, KM9U (EX WD9JFY)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: "Thomas Doyle" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 16:44
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10


> Hello Tom Doyle!
>
> We worked Oscar 8, mode J on 23mar82 at 1520Z...I've got  #219
> entered in the remarks column, whatever that means, maybe Mode J
> club???  With a check in the qsl column so I assume we exchanged cards..
>
> So you can count San Diego county if that still works???
>
> Counties to me mean hunting boundaries..
>
> Lots of familiar calls....any other OT's still around??
>
> I have done the same thing with my logbooks over the past 31 years,
> with quite a few big gaps....FM seems to make sort of a buzzing in my
> fillings???
>
>
>>If you have not been on satellites for a really long time (> 20 years) you
>>may find this interesting. It explains why us old geezers say the old days
>>were amazing. If you were on decades ago it may bring back memories.
>>
>>I have been getting back into hamming after a long hiatus and have been
>>listening to the satellites for a month or two while working on a
>>controller
>>project and decided it was time to try and make a contact. Thanks to K4MOA
>>and W5MPC, today I made my first sat contacts in a very long time. A
>>little
>>later I almost made a cw contact (used my trusty old J-38 key) on another
>>sat but lost him. I told you this was interesting and really exciting.
>>
>>Thought I had better log the contacts and started looking for a logbook.
>>Found a old slightly yellowed logbook with Oscar-10 written on the cover.
>>As
>>a group we hams (including me) are pretty cheap so I had saved this
>>logbook
>>because there were empty pages still left in it. I entered my new contacts
>>on a fresh page (decided to splurge) and then looked back and found it was
>>my first sat contact since 1983. I know you are still waiting for the
>>exciting part.
>>
>>Here is a typical page from the log. I am in Wisconsin and believe it or
>>not
>>I had pile ups of europeans wanting to work Wisconsin of all things. It
>>was
>>a real thrill. Times change and I now have two grid squares - not sure
>>what
>>they are for but I have two and feel the need for more. There are 29 empty
>>pages left in the logbook so I am good to go. Hope to work you.
>>
>>http://www.tomdoyle.org/satellite/Amsat-1983.jpg
>>
>>73 tom... W9KE
>>_______________________________________________
>>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
>            73, Dave, WB6LLO
>                dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
>
>                    Disagree: I learn....
>
>               Pulling for P3E...
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:31:03 -0400 (EDT)
From: Douglas Quagliana <dquagliana@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CE1AE58787767D-1470-10140@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"


 All,


 The WS.REPUTATION is an indication from Norton that he's never seen this
particular executable before and Norton doesn't have this executable in its
database, so, by Norton's definition, this executable doesn't have a
reputation
with them. We saw this same false-positive during development.

But, you don't have to believe me.  Here's the write up from Norton's own
web site.
See their page at:

http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2010-051308-1854-9
9

"The reputation-based system uses "the wisdom of crowds" (Symantec?s tens of
millions of end users) connected to cloud-based intelligence to compute a
reputation
score for an application, and in the process identify malicious software in
an entirely
new way beyond traditional signatures and behavior-based detection
techniques."

Let me know if you have any questions.  If you get any indications besides the
WS.REPUTATION, please let me know.



 Douglas KA2UPW/5



-----Original Message-----
From: Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: 'JoAnne Maenpaa' <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:23 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe


JoAnne,



I checked, and sure enough, Norton promptly removed the download, reporting

a WS.REPUTATION.1 virus possibility, and that it was being submitted.  I

overrode it, and did a binary comparison with the one I downloaded a couple

of months ago.  Same file.  When I scan the executable, it gives me a

general message about there being several indications that it is

untrustworthy, but that it has actually done nothing.  I am guessing it is a

false alarm, mostly because there are so few Norton users who have the

program.   Stay tuned.



Alan

WA4SCA







-----Original Message-----

From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On

Behalf Of JoAnne Maenpaa

Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04 PM

To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx

Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe



> I just posted about a virus issue with the file at

> http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe



Interesting. Norton Security Suite on WinXP and on another Windows 7

computer has no complaints. I just checked and it says Norton updated itself

8 minutes ago so the definitions are current.



What kind of virus were you warned about?



--

73 de JoAnne K9JKM

k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx





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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:49:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  IC-910/ UT-106
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello

I just recently installed the optional UT-106 AF DSP noise reducer in my
910.? It works better than I anticipated.? On weak noisy AO-7 I can hear
signals that before were almost uncopyable.? If you have a 910, you might
consider it.? I have no connection to Icom aside that ?they're only 8 miles
up the road, they have a neat ham shack.

73 Bob W7LRD

Seattle




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 07:03:57 +0100
From: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Ao51
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000301cc4cec$246da4e0$6a01a8c0@xxxxx>
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reply-type=original

Hello there.
Can anyone tell me if Ao51 is dead over Uk/ Europe again?. Not heard for 2
day's :(.



Kev
De MM0KJG



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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:48:12 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
To: "KM9U" <arskm9u@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <77.6B.20202.926013E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
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Our first method of pass determination was with a home made
plotter...I still have my original one, and think it is on my website:

http://cid-1973adc8c1d3207c.skydrive.live.com/summary.aspx?sa=140581470

Nothing but a circular plot of the world with a curved arc that
represented the path of the satellite....then the time in minutes of
the pass marked off to determine AZ/EL.  QST had a listing of pass
times for the month, very simple, and as you remember we used to have
4,5,6 in a round table permitting about 20 second bites....We gabbed
mostly about what we had just homebrewed, and continue the chat on
the next pass, or maybe the NEXT DAY!!

Chuck, I'll dig out my old logs and let you know...When I upgraded I
kept my old callsign just for the recognition on the sats,a and ease
of operation, as you remember it took about four hands!!

At 05:35 PM 7/27/2011, you wrote:

>I remember working Oscar 7 back about '81..'82. I homebrewed a stack
>of 4, 11 element 2m yagis just for the purpose. I used a Kenwood
>TR-9000 (I think) for the uplink and a Kenwood TS-520s for the
>downlink. I don't even remember how we used to determine when the
>passes were but I think it had something to do with info published
>in QST. Soon after that, life interfered and I was inactive for many
>years. The most sad thing is that I didn't save my old logbooks. So,
>If by some odd chance, someone has a record of a contact with WD9JFY
>on the old bird, please let me know. Hindsight is always 20-20. :-((
>
>Chuck, KM9U (EX WD9JFY)
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
>To: "Thomas Doyle" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
>Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 16:44
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
>
>
>>Hello Tom Doyle!
>>
>>We worked Oscar 8, mode J on 23mar82 at 1520Z...I've got #219
>>entered in the remarks column, whatever that means, maybe Mode J
>>club??? With a check in the qsl column so I assume we exchanged cards..
>>
>>So you can count San Diego county if that still works???
>>
>>Counties to me mean hunting boundaries..
>>
>>Lots of familiar calls....any other OT's still around??
>>
>>I have done the same thing with my logbooks over the past 31 years,
>>with quite a few big gaps....FM seems to make sort of a buzzing in my
>>fillings???
>>
>>
>>>If you have not been on satellites for a really long time (> 20 years) you
>>>may find this interesting. It explains why us old geezers say the old days
>>>were amazing. If you were on decades ago it may bring back memories.
>>>
>>>I have been getting back into hamming after a long hiatus and have been
>>>listening to the satellites for a month or two while working on a
controller
>>>project and decided it was time to try and make a contact. Thanks to K4MOA
>>>and W5MPC, today I made my first sat contacts in a very long time. A little
>>>later I almost made a cw contact (used my trusty old J-38 key) on another
>>>sat but lost him. I told you this was interesting and really exciting.
>>>
>>>Thought I had better log the contacts and started looking for a logbook.
>>>Found a old slightly yellowed logbook with Oscar-10 written on the cover.
As
>>>a group we hams (including me) are pretty cheap so I had saved this logbook
>>>because there were empty pages still left in it. I entered my new contacts
>>>on a fresh page (decided to splurge) and then looked back and found it was
>>>my first sat contact since 1983. I know you are still waiting for the
>>>exciting part.
>>>
>>>Here is a typical page from the log. I am in Wisconsin and believe it or
not
>>>I had pile ups of europeans wanting to work Wisconsin of all things. It was
>>>a real thrill. Times change and I now have two grid squares - not sure what
>>>they are for but I have two and feel the need for more. There are 29 empty
>>>pages left in the logbook so I am good to go. Hope to work you.
>>>
>>>http://www.tomdoyle.org/satellite/Amsat-1983.jpg
>>>
>>>73 tom... W9KE
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>>
>>
>>
>>           73, Dave, WB6LLO
>>               dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
>>
>>                   Disagree: I learn....
>>
>>              Pulling for P3E...
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            73, Dave, WB6LLO
                dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx

                    Disagree: I learn....

               Pulling for P3E...

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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2011 02:06:12 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: "'Douglas Quagliana'" <dquagliana@xxx.xxx>, <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <571510839F8442E7A1AADE401606CCFD@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Douglas,

Thanks for the confirmation of my understanding.  One would think a more
explicit message would be generated.

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Quagliana [mailto:dquagliana@xxx.xxxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:31 PM
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxxx k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe

All,


The WS.REPUTATION is an indication from Norton that he's never seen this
particular executable before and Norton doesn't have this executable in its
database, so, by Norton's definition, this executable doesn't have a
reputation
with them. We saw this same false-positive during development.

But, you don't have to believe me.  Here's the write up from Norton's own
web site.
See their page at:

http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2010-051308-1854
-99

"The reputation-based system uses "the wisdom of crowds" (Symantec's tens of

millions of end users) connected to cloud-based intelligence to compute a
reputation
score for an application, and in the process identify malicious software in
an entirely
new way beyond traditional signatures and behavior-based detection
techniques."

Let me know if you have any questions.  If you get any indications besides
the
WS.REPUTATION, please let me know.


Douglas KA2UPW/5


-----Original Message-----
From: Alan P. Biddle <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: 'JoAnne Maenpaa' <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wed, Jul 27, 2011 5:23 pm
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe


JoAnne,





I checked, and sure enough, Norton promptly removed the download, reporting


a WS.REPUTATION.1 virus possibility, and that it was being submitted.  I


overrode it, and did a binary comparison with the one I downloaded a couple


of months ago.  Same file.  When I scan the executable, it gives me a


general message about there being several indications that it is


untrustworthy, but that it has actually done nothing.  I am guessing it is a


false alarm, mostly because there are so few Norton users who have the


program.   Stay tuned.





Alan


WA4SCA











-----Original Message-----


From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx> ] On


Behalf Of JoAnne Maenpaa


Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04 PM


To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx


Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe





> I just posted about a virus issue with the file at


> http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe





Interesting. Norton Security Suite on WinXP and on another Windows 7


computer has no complaints. I just checked and it says Norton updated itself


8 minutes ago so the definitions are current.





What kind of virus were you warned about?





--


73 de JoAnne K9JKM


k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx








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