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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Full Duplex? (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
   2.  Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (James Luhn)
   3. Re: simplex/duplex terminology (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
   4. Re: Full Duplex? (Bob- W7LRD)
   5. Re: Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites (Bob- W7LRD)
   6.  Oscar-10 (Thomas Doyle)
   7. Re: simplex/duplex terminology ((kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez)
   8. Re: OK I could not let this one go (rogerkola@xxx.xxxx
   9.  Virus or not in ARISSAT software (James Luhn)
  10. Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (JoAnne Maenpaa)
  11. Re: simplex/duplex terminology (W4ART Arthur Feller)
  12. Re: Oscar-10 (Dave Guimont)
  13. Re: simplex/duplex terminology (Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF)
  14. Re: Oscar-10 (i8cvs)
  15. Re: ISS Message Board (Gordon JC Pearce)
  16. Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe (Alan P. Biddle)
  17. Re: Oscar-10 (K5OE)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:18:20 +0100
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex?
To: Thomas Schaefer <thomasmschaefer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E30647C.8040205@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

No it's not.
2m on your local repeater is half duplex, where you can talk or listen
but not both simultaneously.
Simplex is where you can talk OR listen but never do both.


On 07/27/2011 02:43 PM, Thomas Schaefer wrote:
> 2m on your local repeater is simplex as you talk then listen. Your
telephone is full duplex as you can talk but still hear the other person.
>
> Tom NY4I
>



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:18:56 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E3064A0.9040604@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I just posted about a virus issue with the file at
http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe.  I just
downloaded the file on my Mac and the antivirus software does not
indicate a problem.  Now I remember why i have both PCs and Macs.
Thanks,
James
W5AOO


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 20:24:08 +0100
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplex/duplex terminology
To: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E3065D8.30305@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Art...
What's the definition then of a one way only link, as in a TLM channel
or beacon?


On 07/27/2011 06:54 PM, W4ART Arthur Feller wrote:
> No need to guess or try to write new definitions.  Here are definitions
accepted by all administrations around the world and included in the radio
regulations:
>
> RR 1.125 simplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is made
possible
> alternately in each direction of a telecommunication channel, for example,
by means of manual
> control2.
>
> RR 1.126 duplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is
possible
> simultaneously in both directions of a telecommunication channel2.
>
> RR 1.127 semi-duplex operation: A method which is simplex operation at one
end of
> the circuit and duplex operation at the other.2
>
>
> 2 1.125.1, 1.126.1 and 1.127.1 In general, duplex operation and
semi-duplex operation require two frequencies
> in radiocommunication; simplex operation may use either one or two.
>
> I hope this helps.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART  Arlington VA
>
>
>
> http://afeller.us
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:46:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex?
To: David 4X1DG <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<628670678.75144.1311795998907.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxxx
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It is just like a telephone conversation.? With little or no delay, however
back in the days of AO-40 (sobsob), when it was way out there, the delay was
very noticeable and listening to ones self you got a bit stuttering.

73 Bob W7LRD



----- Original Message -----


From: "David 4X1DG" <4x1dg@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Mike" <mikef1234@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 5:51:26 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Full Duplex?

Mike,

It depends on the transceiver that you have.
Essentially the up link and down link are using different bands, U and V for
example.
If you transmit on a V uplink your transmission is transmitted back on the
downlink on a U frequency.
If your transceiver is capable of duplex operation, you can hear your own
transmission on the downlink
with a delay that depends on the sat distance from your location. with
today's leo sats, it is hardly noticeable. ?The duplex in the sat
communications means that you can transmit and receive simultaneously.

Hope that that clarify.

David, 4X1DG
??----- Original Message -----
??From: Mike
??To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
??Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:25 PM
??Subject: [amsat-bb] Full Duplex?


??I'm having a difficult time of understanding the concept of Full Duplex. Can
??anyone explain it to me? I have the ARRL satellite book, read about it in
??there and Wikipedia. I still didn't understand how it works with a
??transceiver setup like we use.

??

?? ? ? ? Mike ? N8GBU

??

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 19:54:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites
To: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<315730517.75538.1311796452088.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxxx
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Find a IC 451 or IC471.? A?oldy but a goodie.? Very reasonable on the usual
used markets, ebay, hamfests etc.

73 Bob W7LRD



----- Original Message -----


From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 11:43:33 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ?Good 70cm all mode radios for satellites

What are some of the best 70cm all mode radios to use on the satellites? ?I
am looking for a monoband radio, not one of the HF/VHF/UHF radios as I have
the other bands covered already. ?I would like one that is plenty sensitive
on FM as well to receive the FM satellites.

73s John AA5JG
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:58:58 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Oscar-10
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQRJCJuq=D+00kvoHjdHaF8wB__MOnGRgRbCX_1QukgC_bg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I sent this some time ago but I never saw it show up so - sorry if it is a
re-post.

If you have not been on satellites for a really long time (> 20 years) you
may find this interesting. It explains why us old geezers say the old days
were amazing. If you were on decades ago it may bring back memories.

I have been getting back into hamming after a long hiatus and have been
listening to the satellites for a month or two while working on a controller
project and decided it was time to try and make a contact. Thanks to K4MOA
and W5MPC, today I made my first sat contacts in a very long time. A little
later I almost made a cw contact (used my trusty old J-38 key) on another
sat but lost him. I told you this was interesting and really exciting.

Thought I had better log the contacts and started looking for a logbook.
Found a old slightly yellowed logbook with Oscar-10 written on the cover. As
a group we hams (including me)  are pretty cheap so I had saved this logbook
because there were empty pages still left in it. I entered my new contacts
on a fresh page (decided to splurge)  and then looked back and found it was
my first sat contact since 1983. I know you are still waiting for the
exciting part.

Here is a typical page from the log. I am in Wisconsin and believe it or not
I had pile ups of europeans  wanting to work Wisconsin of all things. It was
a real thrill. Times change and I now have two grid squares - not sure what
they are for but I have two and feel the need for more. There are 29 empty
pages left in the logbook so I am good to go. Hope to work you.

http://www.tomdoyle.org/satellite/Amsat-1983.jpg

73 tom... W9KE


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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:59:06 -0400
From: "(kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez" <kp4tr.ramon@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplex/duplex terminology
To: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EFA8E23C-B59B-45BE-B2BC-1337987031D5@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Broadcast?

Sent from my Adobe Flash and Java challenged iPhone

On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:24 PM, "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Art...
> What's the definition then of a one way only link, as in a TLM channel
> or beacon?
>
>
> On 07/27/2011 06:54 PM, W4ART Arthur Feller wrote:
>> No need to guess or try to write new definitions.  Here are definitions
accepted by all administrations around the world and included in the radio
regulations:
>>
>> RR 1.125 simplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is
made possible
>> alternately in each direction of a telecommunication channel, for
example, by means of manual
>> control2.
>>
>> RR 1.126 duplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is
possible
>> simultaneously in both directions of a telecommunication channel2.
>>
>> RR 1.127 semi-duplex operation: A method which is simplex operation at
one end of
>> the circuit and duplex operation at the other.2
>>
>>
>> 2 1.125.1, 1.126.1 and 1.127.1 In general, duplex operation and
semi-duplex operation require two frequencies
>> in radiocommunication; simplex operation may use either one or two.
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> 73, art?..
>> W4ART  Arlington VA
>>
>>
>>
>> http://afeller.us
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:02:46 -0400
From: rogerkola@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OK I could not let this one go
To: summit496@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CE1AA6E802178D-844-3351C@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


You might notice that the op is in South Sudan in Africa and there may be no
other operations in his circle of visibility.

Roger
WA1KAT






-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wed, Jul 27, 2011 9:59 am
Subject: [amsat-bb] OK I could not let this one go




ello All

oday 12/02/2009 at 14:40 to 14:50 UTC
I have broken by previous record of posting  9 messages in one
ass to ISS BBS by posting 12 messages  to international space station
BS , I have sent 12 messages to 11 hams they had a post on ISS

ow, you guys thought I was Bad? Selfish I think the word was...

evin
F7MYK

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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 14:07:51 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Virus or not in ARISSAT software
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E306207.6020802@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

When I download the setup file at
http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe my Norton
complains that a WS.Reputation.1 virus is present and it deletes the
file.  Do I have an incorrect link or is this merely the heuristic
detection in Norton falsely identifying a virus?   The link to the file
is on the AMSAT web page so my assumption is that the file is OK.

Thanks,
James
W5AOO


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 15:04:00 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002a01cc4c98$54784590$fd68d0b0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> I just posted about a virus issue with the file at
> http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe

Interesting. Norton Security Suite on WinXP and on another Windows 7
computer has no complaints. I just checked and it says Norton updated itself
8 minutes ago so the definitions are current.

What kind of virus were you warned about?

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 16:06:23 -0400
From: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplex/duplex terminology
To: (kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez <kp4tr.ramon@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <B828116A-B416-45DF-B0E4-6E8FD9E6688E@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=windows-1252

This is an extract from the RR's, with much more not copied here.  Got a
question?  More is available online at the 4U1ITU web site.  It's an
excellent document with lots from which to learn.

73, art?..
W4ART  Arlington VA

On 27-Jul-2011, at 03:59 PM, (kp4tr)Ramon Gonzalez wrote:

> Broadcast?
>
> Sent from my Adobe Flash and Java challenged iPhone
>
> On Jul 27, 2011, at 3:24 PM, "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF"
<nigel@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Art...
>> What's the definition then of a one way only link, as in a TLM channel
>> or beacon?
>>
>>
>> On 07/27/2011 06:54 PM, W4ART Arthur Feller wrote:
>>> No need to guess or try to write new definitions.  Here are definitions
accepted by all administrations around the world and included in the radio
regulations:
>>>
>>> RR 1.125 simplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is
made possible
>>> alternately in each direction of a telecommunication channel, for
example, by means of manual
>>> control2.
>>>
>>> RR 1.126 duplex operation: Operating method in which transmission is
possible
>>> simultaneously in both directions of a telecommunication channel2.
>>>
>>> RR 1.127 semi-duplex operation: A method which is simplex operation at
one end of
>>> the circuit and duplex operation at the other.2
>>>
>>>
>>> 2 1.125.1, 1.126.1 and 1.127.1 In general, duplex operation and
semi-duplex operation require two frequencies
>>> in radiocommunication; simplex operation may use either one or two.
>>>
>>> I hope this helps.
>>>
>>> 73, art?..
>>> W4ART  Arlington VA
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://afeller.us
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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http://afeller.us



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:44:39 -0700
From: Dave Guimont <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <27.E3.15242.3B8703E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Hello Tom Doyle!

We worked Oscar 8, mode J on 23mar82 at 1520Z...I've got  #219
entered in the remarks column, whatever that means, maybe Mode J
club???  With a check in the qsl column so I assume we exchanged cards..

So you can count San Diego county if that still works???

Counties to me mean hunting boundaries..

Lots of familiar calls....any other OT's still around??

I have done the same thing with my logbooks over the past 31 years,
with quite a few big gaps....FM seems to make sort of a buzzing in my
fillings???


>If you have not been on satellites for a really long time (> 20 years) you
>may find this interesting. It explains why us old geezers say the old days
>were amazing. If you were on decades ago it may bring back memories.
>
>I have been getting back into hamming after a long hiatus and have been
>listening to the satellites for a month or two while working on a controller
>project and decided it was time to try and make a contact. Thanks to K4MOA
>and W5MPC, today I made my first sat contacts in a very long time. A little
>later I almost made a cw contact (used my trusty old J-38 key) on another
>sat but lost him. I told you this was interesting and really exciting.
>
>Thought I had better log the contacts and started looking for a logbook.
>Found a old slightly yellowed logbook with Oscar-10 written on the cover. As
>a group we hams (including me) are pretty cheap so I had saved this logbook
>because there were empty pages still left in it. I entered my new contacts
>on a fresh page (decided to splurge) and then looked back and found it was
>my first sat contact since 1983. I know you are still waiting for the
>exciting part.
>
>Here is a typical page from the log. I am in Wisconsin and believe it or not
>I had pile ups of europeans wanting to work Wisconsin of all things. It was
>a real thrill. Times change and I now have two grid squares - not sure what
>they are for but I have two and feel the need for more. There are 29 empty
>pages left in the logbook so I am good to go. Hope to work you.
>
>http://www.tomdoyle.org/satellite/Amsat-1983.jpg
>
>73 tom... W9KE
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



            73, Dave, WB6LLO
                dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx

                    Disagree: I learn....

               Pulling for P3E...

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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 22:16:30 +0100
From: "Nigel A. Gunn, W8IFF/G8IFF" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: simplex/duplex terminology
To: W4ART Arthur Feller <afeller@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E30802E.6040807@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Art.
You definitions are correct as stated in the "official" definitions on
the ITU website so we have to accept them as correct. However, they are
not in agreement with what I learned in telecommunications training back
in the 1970s in the UK so perhaps things have changed wrt time.

This discussion has cropped up before and no doubt will again.


On 07/27/2011 09:06 PM, W4ART Arthur Feller wrote:
> This is an extract from the RR's, with much more not copied here.  Got
> a question?  More is available online at the 4U1ITU web site.  It's an
> excellent document with lots from which to learn.
>
> 73, art?..
> W4ART  Arlington VA
>



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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:51:21 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
To: "Thomas Doyle" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004301cc4ca7$5329cec0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Doyle" <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 9:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Oscar-10

> I sent this some time ago but I never saw it show up so - sorry if it is a
> re-post.

Hi Tom, W9KE

I remember your previous post !

>
> If you have not been on satellites for a really long time (> 20 years) you
> may find this interesting. It explains why us old geezers say the old days
> were amazing. If you were on decades ago it may bring back memories.

I am on satellites since OSCAR-6 and I agree with you because only the old
days were amazing .

>
> I have been getting back into hamming after a long hiatus and have been
> listening to the satellites for a month or two while working on a
> controller project and decided it was time to try and make a contact.
> Thanks to K4MOA and W5MPC, today I made my first sat contacts in a very
> long time.
> A little later I almost made a cw contact (used my trusty old J-38 key) on
> another sat but lost him. I told you this was interesting and really
> exciting.

I suggest you to work linear satellites like the old OSCAR-7 ,VO-52 and
FO-29 but forget for ever please the single channel FM satellites.

>
> Thought I had better log the contacts and started looking for a logbook.
> Found a old slightly yellowed logbook with Oscar-10 written on the cover.
> As a group we hams (including me)  are pretty cheap so I had saved this
> logbook because there were empty pages still left in it. I entered my new
> contacts on a fresh page (decided to splurge)  and then looked back and
> found it was my first sat contact since 1983. I know you are still waiting
> for the exciting part.

Please look if my call letter i8CVS is included in your logbook because at
that old amazing days I was active on OSCAR-10 every days except in august.

>
> Here is a typical page from the log. I am in Wisconsin and believe it or
> not I had pile ups of europeans  wanting to work Wisconsin of all things.
> It was a real thrill. Times change and I now have two grid squares - not
> sure what they are for but I have two and feel the need for more. There
> are 29 empty pages left in the logbook so I am good to go. Hope to work
> you.

Unfortunately time are changed because actually we don't have any HEO
satellite in orbit like OSCAR-10, OSCAR-13 and AO40 but we have only three
linear LEO satellites like the old OSCAR-7, VO-52 and FO-29 and the rest
of single channel FM satellites are good for nothing.

>
> http://www.tomdoyle.org/satellite/Amsat-1983.jpg

I was looking on your logbook page and I am not included on it because
during the month of august I was normally in vacations from my job but
I found in it i3EIE Mario and i7LIT Rino both my good satellite friends at
that early days.
Please look before and after the month of august 1985 and I sure that you
will find me as well.

We only hope that AMSAT-DL will be able to launch a new HEO satellite
P3-E wich is similar to OSCAR-10 and OSCAR-13 but unfortunately we
don't have actually a launch contract and AMSAT.DL need donations from
the Ham satellite community all over the world.

If you can please subscribe to AMSAT-DL and ................Pull for P3-E !

>
> 73 tom... W9KE

73" to you my old friend Tom ,W9KE

i8CVS Domenico



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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 23:01:19 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ISS Message Board
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110727230119.b5d45d0c.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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On Mon, 25 Jul 2011 19:30:50 -0400
Diane Bruce <db@xx.xxx> wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 03:43:03PM -0700, Ted wrote:
> > Curious..
> >
> > If Gordon (always ready with a cheerful comment) is accurate, then what is
> > the purpose of the BBS? Also, Kevin is far from 'selfish'...he is just
using
>
> The BBS is a side effect of the commercial equipment (Kenwood) they took
> up there.  Many of us do think it should be disabled.

Time for a quick description, for those who may be less familiar with how
packet BBSes work.

Many of us are running packet radio BBSes or even just mailboxes, on modern
computing hardware.  Now this hardware with 16- and 32-bit processors
running at clock speeds of over 100MHz, up to a megabyte or even more of RAM
and maybe as much as a couple of gigabytes (that's 1024 megabytes) of mass
storage is often capable of handling many simultaneous connections.  Users
can send messages to each other directly or via mailboxes, while other users
are simultaneously reading messages or browsing saved bulletins - perhaps as
many as eight users at once!

By comparison, the 8-bit 4MHz microprocessors used in most normal TNCs can
really only cope with a single connection at a time.  Once someone is in
connected mode, everything else gets rejected.  Some of the more modern TNCs
can accept very large amounts of RAM (the KPC-3 can have 32 kilobytes), but
most have much less than that.  The TNCs built into radios tend to be fairly
simpleminded beasts, with crude firmware and very little RAM for storing
messages and connections.

The UI packets, on the other hand, are merely received and, if they are
valid, repeated (almost verbatim) a moment later.  There is a slight
modification to the header to indicate that they've been through a
digipeater, but the message content remains unmodified.  Since the TNC has
no need to track any state for these packets - UI is not a connected mode -
then it can handle digipeating packets for any stations it can hear.

> > the available resources. Helpful education is far more useful than lame
name
>
> It's the way Gordon is, he's a nice chap online (on IRC). Don't take it
> the wrong way. The pair of you should go have a beer together or something.
> He's just a typical dour direct Scot, but he will drink you under the
table. ;-)

Thanks, that's the nicest thing anyone's said all day.

--
Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>


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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 17:09:44 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe
To: "'JoAnne Maenpaa'" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <95F0378AF8FC4A7599EEBAF87CA8920A@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

JoAnne,

I checked, and sure enough, Norton promptly removed the download, reporting
a WS.REPUTATION.1 virus possibility, and that it was being submitted.  I
overrode it, and did a binary comparison with the one I downloaded a couple
of months ago.  Same file.  When I scan the executable, it gives me a
general message about there being several indications that it is
untrustworthy, but that it has actually done nothing.  I am guessing it is a
false alarm, mostly because there are so few Norton users who have the
program.   Stay tuned.

Alan
WA4SCA



-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of JoAnne Maenpaa
Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:04 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mac is OK with ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe

> I just posted about a virus issue with the file at
> http://www.arissattlm.org/download/ARISSatTLM_050_Setup.exe

Interesting. Norton Security Suite on WinXP and on another Windows 7
computer has no complaints. I just checked and it says Norton updated itself
8 minutes ago so the definitions are current.

What kind of virus were you warned about?

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx


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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 18:22:51 -0400 (EDT)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oscar-10
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I feel like such a youngster!  Thanks Dave and Dom for my first contacts
with you almost two decades later...


WB6LLO 28.07.1999 0130 FO-20 M-J SSB DM12 SD CA USA Dave
I8CVS 16.01.2000 0226 AO-10 M-B SSB JN70 Naples ITALY Dom

I salute you both for inspiration and mentorship to the satellite
community--and I look forward to working you both on P3-E...

73,
Jerry, K5OE




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