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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion (Roger Kolakowski)
2. Re: FM satellites (John Geiger)
3. Re: ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date? (Dee)
4. Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion (Floyd Rodgers)
5. Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion (Dee)
6. Re: FM satellites (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. Re: FM satellites (John Geiger)
8. Re: ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date? (JoAnne Maenpaa)
9. Re: Linear satellites (was Re: FM satellites) (George Henry)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 08:29:48 -0400
From: Roger Kolakowski <rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion
To: Stuart Balanger <wa2bss@xxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx >>
amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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A Google search for KaNtronics 3+ has a manual and their web page come
up as the firsr result.
Roger
WA1KAT
"...Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish
and you feed him for a lifetime..."
On 7/6/2011 8:00 AM, Stuart Balanger wrote:
> *Question?
> I have a Kamtronics Packet Commtroler (3Plus"& on the back,
> there are 2 computer jacks, 1 has about 15 holes, 8 on top,
> & 7 on bottom,& a 9 hole jack, 5 on top& 4 on bottom,& was
> & was wondering where the 2 resptive cables go tp?
> Also, was wondering if Kamtronics has a home page?
>
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 12:55:22 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FM satellites
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
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You can't get a VUCC or WAS award for cell phone calls.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Guimont" <dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 6:15 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM satellites
>
> I've worked every ham satellite that has been launched since I got on
> Oscar 7, cw, most of my gear at that time home brew in 1980.
>
> For the life of me I cannot see any difference in pushing a button on
> an FM bird than operating a cell phone, except that it is a 2 user
> operation and the time available is limited...
>
> Waste of good AMSAT funds......skill level 1, on a 1 to 10 basis...
>
>
>
> 73, Dave, WB6LLO
> dguimon1@xxx.xx.xxx
>
> Disagree: I learn....
>
> Pulling for P3E...
>
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:46:43 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date?
To: "'George Henry'" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>, "'amsat bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sarex@xxxxx.xxx
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Don't jump to any conclusions. Wait for the AMSAT engineering people to
give you the current and CORRECT information. If any info comes from anyone
else, it is not a direct contact with the Space Station people.
Be patient and remember, the engineering team has many questions waiting to
be answered also.
73,
Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of George Henry
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 12:33 AM
To: amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date?
Good question... after the "test" prior to "Yuri's Day" the battery was
apparently depleted. Whether it has been recharged or replaced, who knows?
I'd still like to know whether NASA ever signed off on powering up the
satellite inside the space station... seems like much of the time Roscosmos
forgets that they have PARTNERS in this venture.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "R Oler" <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 11:03 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date?
>
> Do we know ARISSAT works? Robert G. Oler WB5MZO Life Member AMSAT ARRL
> NARS
>
>> From: gouldsmi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Mon, 4 Jul 2011 13:00:44 -0400
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V Deployment date?
>>
>> I would like to be able to give a firm date for the ARISSat deployment,
>> but
>> there are a few issues that make that a moving target.
>> The deployment is scheduled to occur during Russian EVA 29, today that is
>> 27
>> July 2011.
>> >From a teleconference last week there was a notice that the EVA may be
>> pushed back a week or two if the Shuttle arrives in early July- nothing
>> firm
>> yet.
>> We have another teleconference 6 July. I will release any probable dates
>> or
>> updates when I know them. Thank you for your patience.
>>
>> 73,
>> Gould, WA4SXM
>> AMSAT ARISSat project manager
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 10:07:34 -0500
From: Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion
To: Stuart Balanger <wa2bss@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
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http://kantronics.com/ or for your particular product
http://kantronics.com/products/kpc3.html
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2011 11:47:28 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Kamtronics Question & Suggestion
To: "'Stuart Balanger'" <wa2bss@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Gary <Cotejaune2@xxx.xxx>
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Stu,
It is very easy to suggest a location for the Symposium. It is really hard
work putting together a local group to run one. Maybe "you" can head a
group in your area for a Symposium? Requirements-Near a major airport and
a great location for a comfortable Symposium. Also, you must arrange the
talks, dinner, prizes etc. It is not an easy task. My hat always is tipped
to those that put these together as they do deserve a satellite named after
them (HA!)
The last time we were to be in New Orleans, the Hurricane season became
prominent... Even Mother Nature has to co-operate for these things to
happen.
Anyone else willing to step up to the plate??? You might get a pat on the
back and a pix in the Journal... Only kidding about the satellite renaming.
73,
Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Stuart Balanger
Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 8:00 AM
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Kamtronics Question & Suggestion
*Question?
I have a Kamtronics Packet Commtroler (3Plus" & on the back, there are 2
computer jacks, 1 has about 15 holes, 8 on top, & 7 on bottom, & a 9 hole
jack, 5 on top & 4 on bottom, & was & was wondering where the 2 resptive
cables go tp?
Also, was wondering if Kamtronics has a home page?
(Suggestion)
For mext yr's Symposium location be in Huntsville,Al.! (Which I discovered
is Bet. Birmingham, & Mobile,Al.)
73,.Stu (WA2BSS)
*
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:54:51 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FM satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Ron!
> I have to disagree. Have you tried working one of the FM birds using a 2
> watt ht and a whip antenna ?
Unfortunately, the comments like "I cannot see any difference in pushing
a button on an FM bird than operating a cell phone" (from WB6LLO's
post in this thread) show up from time to time. If FM satellites were that
simple to operate, then everyone who attempted to make an FM satellite
QSO during Field Day should have been able to do so. People wouldn't
show up in large numbers for the many demonstrations and presentations
that AMSAT people put on for radio clubs, hamfests, etc.
>?The ?FM birds are something I can work while traveling. Have been able
> to find a SSB setup that is compact enough to carry on a plane.
This almost reads like you were trying to say "Haven't been able to
find a SSB setup that is compact .... ".
With the advent of smaller radios, you *can* carry an SSB satellite
setup on a plane that allows all-mode full-duplex satellite operation.
I travel with two FT-817NDs, and in recent times a TH-F6A (its all-
mode receiver is a backup to the 817 I use as a receiver) also goes
along, all in an old laptop bag. If you want computer control of the
radios, you can use a netbook with software like SatPC32 - which
could also fit in the same bag. Along with these 3 radios, I also
take a TH-D72A. It is my APRS radio, and works well as a full-
duplex FM satellite radio. That laptop bag also has room for more
batteries, a GPS receiver, compass, and and other accessories.
Unless you are using a long flexible whip, the antenna (directional
antenna like a Yagi or log periodic, or a telescoping whip) may have
to go in a checked bag due to security regulations. The higher-value
parts of your station can go with you into the cabin, along with the
accessories that are not considered dangerous for carry-on luggage.
> Look at this from an emergency perspective. If you only had an ht
> and couldnt access a repeater, you woul at least have a chance to
> get help on a satellite pass.
Definitely! You'd have to be quick with your information, but that would
be a possibility. Something I always kept in mind on my road trips around
northern Arizona and southern Utah in 2009 and 2010, since there were
many places without mobile-phone coverage up there. Know when the
passes come by, and you can plan to show up on those passes to send
and receive information in that sort of situation.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:06:55 -0500
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FM satellites
To: AM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK) <
amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Ron!
>
> > I have to disagree. Have you tried working one of the FM birds using a 2
> > watt ht and a whip antenna ?
>
> Unfortunately, the comments like "I cannot see any difference in pushing
> a button on an FM bird than operating a cell phone" (from WB6LLO's
> post in this thread) show up from time to time. If FM satellites were that
> simple to operate, then everyone who attempted to make an FM satellite
> QSO during Field Day should have been able to do so. People wouldn't
> show up in large numbers for the many demonstrations and presentations
> that AMSAT people put on for radio clubs, hamfests, etc.
>
> > The FM birds are something I can work while traveling. Have been able
> > to find a SSB setup that is compact enough to carry on a plane.
>
> This almost reads like you were trying to say "Haven't been able to
> find a SSB setup that is compact .... ".
>
> With the advent of smaller radios, you *can* carry an SSB satellite
> setup on a plane that allows all-mode full-duplex satellite operation.
> I travel with two FT-817NDs, and in recent times a TH-F6A (its all-
> mode receiver is a backup to the 817 I use as a receiver) also goes
> along, all in an old laptop bag. If you want computer control of the
> radios, you can use a netbook with software like SatPC32 - which
> could also fit in the same bag. Along with these 3 radios, I also
> take a TH-D72A. It is my APRS radio, and works well as a full-
> duplex FM satellite radio. That laptop bag also has room for more
> batteries, a GPS receiver, compass, and and other accessories.
>
> Unless you are using a long flexible whip, the antenna (directional
> antenna like a Yagi or log periodic, or a telescoping whip) may have
> to go in a checked bag due to security regulations. The higher-value
> parts of your station can go with you into the cabin, along with the
> accessories that are not considered dangerous for carry-on luggage.
>
> > Look at this from an emergency perspective. If you only had an ht
> > and couldnt access a repeater, you woul at least have a chance to
> > get help on a satellite pass.
>
> Definitely! You'd have to be quick with your information, but that would
> be a possibility. Something I always kept in mind on my road trips around
> northern Arizona and southern Utah in 2009 and 2010, since there were
> many places without mobile-phone coverage up there. Know when the
> passes come by, and you can plan to show up on those passes to send
> and receive information in that sort of situation.
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the aely in light of my interpretation that
amateur radio is a guest aboard a Russian Satellite with a Russian callsign
stored on the Russian segment of the ISS and will be deployed by Russian
cosmonauts during a Russian managed EVA.
I, for one, would greatly enjoy ARISSat-1/RadioSkaf-V messages on the
amsat-bb joyfully speculating about our station set-up, antenna plans,
recording passes, downloading and installing software ... you know ... the
fun stuff!
My fun stuff? I'm shopping for 3/16" brass rod to improve upon my homebrew
antenna situation ala the Cheap Yagi approach :-)
Smile! Ham Radio is fun ...
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
PS - I hit the send key.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 11:15:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Linear satellites (was Re: FM satellites)
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1309976159.55231.YahooMailRC@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
And really, the 910H isn't THAT big....
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Wed, July 6, 2011 11:06:55 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FM satellites
>
> In terms of a small compact, SSB satellite station, you can work the SSB
> birds with a single FT817. It is more difficult than having full duplex,
but
> it can be done. I have done it plenty of times with similar radios.
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>
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