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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning! (Dee)
   2. Re: FD Mess (Edward R. Cole)
   3. Re: FD Mess (Tom Schaefer, NY4I)
   4.  Sats for emergencies (jerry)
   5. Re: FD Mess (R Oler)
   6. Re: Sats for emergencies (Edward R. Cole)
   7. Re: Sats for emergencies (Patrick Green)
   8.  sat for emergencies (jerry keeton)
   9.  FM Satellite Net-Control Exercise Drills (Bob Bruninga)
  10. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas) (K5OE)
  11.  sat for emergencies (jerry keeton)
  12. Re: Nova Keps Update > Nova now updated at NLSA website
      (Adrian Engele)
  13. Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning! (k6yk)
  14. Re: subscribe (Dee)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:44:24 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!
To: "'Darryl Ponder'" <darrylponder@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <003301cc35aa$416f08d0$c44d1a70$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

My town does NOT have 7 squad cars...
Dee, NB2F

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Darryl Ponder
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 9:42 AM
To: Jeremy Widner; Patrick Green
Cc: Amsat BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!

Seven squad cars? He must have made more than one contact on an FM bird at
Field Day. ;)

Darryl
K0GV
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Patrick Green" <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2011 8:28 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!


> Just imagine if they had pulled John K8YSE over with that array in the bed
> of his truck!!!
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Well, they didn't see you as that big a threat,  otherwise they would
>> have *surrounded* you.
>>
>> 73 de Pat --- KA9SCF.
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>> > If you are a ham with personalized license plates (probably in ANY
>> > state
>> of the US, but
>> > particularly in CA), then you might want to check this Web page out ...
>> >
>> > And if you just find me otherwise irritating, you'll love to see seven
>> police units respond
>> > to my traffic stop today ... (grin)
>> >
>> > http://tinyurl.com/CLINT-BUSTED
>> >
>> > Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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>
>
>
> --
> 73
> Jeremy Widner
> K0PDX
> http://k0pdx.us
> Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
> http://k0gq.com/
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 07:51:58 -0800
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	Amsat BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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At 05:10 AM 6/28/2011, R Oler wrote:

>What is to prevent someone from designating themselves "net
>control"?  sorry this plan is doomed Robert Oler WB5MZO Live member
>ARRL AMSAT NARS

Ah you are inventing problems.  The "real NC" would quickly assert
their position.  There are lots of nets held on ham radio...how often
do others claim to be net control...virtually never.  If you are
saying someone will cause malicious interference, there is no cure
other than peer pressure and official FCC action.

The way to introduce Net Controlled passes is to do it in advance of
FD.  In fact the idea might catch on when folks find it manages the
typical "FM chaos" that reigns currently.

I propose there be a Net Day every month on certain FM satellites
starting with AO-51, if it is healthy enough. Good practise for a
real "emergency comm" situation.  There are ARES Nets held regularly
all over the nation on VHF/UHF... why not on satellite?



73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:54:33 -0400
From: "Tom Schaefer, NY4I" <ny4i@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4F06C425-D0B0-4018-91FB-DA8133E67F60@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp

Here is a suggestion. Several of us have mentioned we do not hear many
people on the satellites in modes like SSB. If even half of the people
complaining about multiple FM contacts tried to work FO-29, we would have
activity wall to wall for every pass. :)


Tom Schaefer, NY4I
ny4i@xxxx.xxx
EL88pb
Monitoring EchoLink node KJ4FEC-L 489389
DSTAR Capable  APRS: NY4I-15



On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:10 AM, R Oler wrote:

>
> What is to prevent someone from designating themselves "net control"? 
sorry this plan is doomed Robert Oler WB5MZO Live member ARRL AMSAT NARS
>
>> From: ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx
>> To: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxxx tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxxx
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:02:49 -0700
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>>
>>
>> I agree.  Set aside a single FM satellite with a designated team of high
power operators who hand off net control duties as the bird crosses the
planet.  Standard operating practice in picking out call sign fragments or
by 1st letter of the suffix, and working through the pileup.  The folks on
the ground will catch on fast, and I bet we'd have more points awarded per
pass than with what we do today.  And, in the spirit of emergency
preparedness, operating with a net control would be a whole lot closer to
normal.  (And, no, I don't expect that we'd make a lot of use of FM Voice on
a LEO in a real emergency, but we'll never know how to work that eventual
HEO bird if we don't practice on something we do have.)
>>
>> Greg  KO6TH
>>
>>
>>
>>> From: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>> To: tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 23:17:28 -0500
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>>>
>>> You know there is something here.  I worked some late night on 80
meters.  The noise was high and signals were few.  I came across a station
with a big signal, and worked him easily.  Then I noticed he was working
lots of folks!  I suspect he had put a lot more time and energy into his 80
meter station than we had into ours.  Is it fair he gets to make more
contacts with his bigger better station?  I think I would argue it is.  It
is his reward for all of that effort.  Did he make it possible for stations
that may not have otherwise made a contact 80 to make a contact?  Yes, he
did.  He was monopolizing the frequency, but it seemed to make for a lot of
contacts....
>>>
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Tim Cunningham
>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 9:53 PM
>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>>>
>>
>> {snip}
>>
>>>
>>> It is time to move forward and change the course of chaos.
>>>
>>> My suggestion is to allow a Net Control type of operation. Let us say
you make 5, 10 or more sequential QSO's and pass it off to another station
who can capture and command the satellite, if there is one. Efficiency is
improved when there is a target. I guess my only point here is that doing
nothing will change nothing. We still have the 1 QSO limit so nobody has to
worry about a monopoly or somebody running up there point total. I would do
it and not claim a QSO point if needed in order to see it changed for the
better. When somebody hears a target station they will call it and/or the
target station can respond to those calling. This operation clearly netted
the most QSO's being made at a specific time in history. It also clears
traffic on the satellite faster when stations get their 100 bonus points for
the ARRL event or 1 point for the AMSAT event. At this point the other
station is dancing in the field bragging about their contact plus they would
not get any addition!
> al!
>>  credit even if they made another contact anyway. Disallowing a net style
or control point for multiple contacts on an FM satellite only promotes
chaos. This is my point and a suggestion for the box.
>>>
>>> ?
>>>
>>> Thank you for your interest and sincerity in advance,
>>>
>>> Tim - N8DEU
>>>
>> 		 	   		
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 10:59:09 -0500
From: "jerry" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Sats for emergencies
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E0DCB41D977F4BFC9008B4918D48E3AE@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I can see it now , USA Today headlines " Ham operator successfully passes
ARRL RadioGram over Orbiting Satellite" .
  As much trouble and time it takes to pass a message over much more
controlled frequiencies , I could not imagine trying to pass a formatted
message over a satellite , therefore rendering a sat as useless for handling
emergency traffic.
  And I still say a net control type format would allow for many more
contacts on field day than just QRZ.

Jerry WB5LHD

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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:09:34 -0500
From: R Oler <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <col106-w584A30E2B22893E4A35941D6560@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"




Ed.  There is a big difference between an HF net where everyone can more or
less be heard (at least as interference) and a satellite where the strongest
signal captures it.  There is no FCC ruling that would support a "net call"
operation and any one with a valid license could get on and bang away to
their hearts content and all the "net control" station could do is hurl
harsh words and lots of OO notices.  I was a part of the ATS system for a
bit. Nets work when being part of the net is the price of being on the bird.

Where is Wayne Green when we need him?  Robert Oler WB5MZO Life Member AMSAT
ARRL NARS
>
> Ah you are inventing problems.  The "real NC" would quickly assert
> their position.  There are lots of nets held on ham radio...how often
> do others claim to be net control...virtually never.  If you are
> saying someone will cause malicious interference, there is no cure
> other than peer pressure and official FCC action.
>
> The way to introduce Net Controlled passes is to do it in advance of
> FD.  In fact the idea might catch on when folks find it manages the
> typical "FM chaos" that reigns currently.
>
> I propose there be a Net Day every month on certain FM satellites
> starting with AO-51, if it is healthy enough. Good practise for a
> real "emergency comm" situation.  There are ARES Nets held regularly
> all over the nation on VHF/UHF... why not on satellite?
>
>
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
> ======================================
> BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
> EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-?
> DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
> ======================================
>
 		 	   		

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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 08:25:53 -0800
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sats for emergencies
To: "jerry" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <201106281625.p5SGPrOb038883@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 07:59 AM 6/28/2011, jerry wrote:
>I can see it now , USA Today headlines " Ham operator successfully
>passes ARRL RadioGram over Orbiting Satellite" .
>   As much trouble and time it takes to pass a message over much
> more controlled frequiencies , I could not imagine trying to pass a
> formatted message over a satellite , therefore rendering a sat as
> useless for handling emergency traffic.
>   And I still say a net control type format would allow for many
> more contacts on field day than just QRZ.
>
>Jerry WB5LHD
>_______________________________________________
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Jerry,

Exactly why I stated that, in my opinion, digital comms is the
practical mode for satellite emcomm.  Voice Net would be for brief
"real-time messages" e.g.  "we need a node set up in location
blank";  "the hospital needs a generator",  "send a helicopter we
have x number injured", "my car is stuck and the water is rising",
"the fire cut off our escape route, help!" ...  No 30+ word formal
messages on voice.  Digital packet or APRS can be much more efficient
and accurate.

Typically, voice is local VHF/UHF simplex (when all else
fails).  Satellite for longer range coordination links which
currently are managed on HF.



73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
======================================
BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-60w, 3400-?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
======================================



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:30:40 -0500
From: Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Sats for emergencies
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTin9kgjUN1Nm604+uuRaozPpyUQt1A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

A net could work on a satellite but a net needs to be established and
practiced so when the real emergency happens, the net itself is
routine and focus can be on the emergency.  I'm not surprised we don't
have this because of the scarcity of the satellites themselves.  While
FM gives the most operator base, I would think that this is something
that would be left for the multi QSO birds like 29 and 52.  That's my
take on this.

73 de Pat --- KA9SCF.

On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:59 AM, jerry <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I can see it now , USA Today headlines " Ham operator successfully passes
ARRL RadioGram over Orbiting Satellite" .
> ?As much trouble and time it takes to pass a message over much more
controlled frequiencies , I could not imagine trying to pass a formatted
message over a satellite , therefore rendering a sat as useless for handling
emergency traffic.
> ?And I still say a net control type format would allow for many more
contacts on field day than just QRZ.
>
> Jerry WB5LHD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:34:12 -0500
From: "jerry keeton" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  sat for emergencies
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <65EA4DC93B24454CA06C9A94DB8E53EB@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Actually the net control station would only have to confirm each station
calling.Station info passed when calling and net control confirms station
info . Much more organized than 50 operators calling 50 other operators.
Checking into a net is very organized . I can't see where it would be a
waste of time. Guess I'm dense.

Jerry WB5LHD

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:30:24 -0400
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  FM Satellite Net-Control Exercise Drills
To: "'Edward R. Cole'" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"'R Oler'"
<orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	"'Amsat
BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0b6901cc35b9$10415240$30c3f6c0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> I propose there be a Net Day every month
> on certain FM satellites starting with AO-51...

AMEN!  We did this back with the VOICE Transponder on PCSAT-1.  Not being an
"AMSAT" we did not have to ask anyone.  We just declared that the
transponder would be on on such and such a day, and that operation would be
via Net Control.  TO my rememberance, it worked perfectly.

Net control simply called for checkins by category (EVER MINDFULL of exactly
where the satellite footprint was optimum.  Remember, those directy below
the satellite have a 10 dB advantage over those on the edge...

We did this as a demonstration of how well NET CONTROL type operation would
work on an FM satellite.  At the time, of course, the Neanderthals opposed
even the concept on an AMSAT.  So we did nothing much elase...  What we did
not think of, is Ed's idea of a ONCE A MONTH exercise as a way of testing it
and getting people used to it.

I'm all for it!

Bob, Wb4APR




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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:09:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds (antennas)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CE03D5B2DBD844-2110-20409@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


Somewhere in the last century (1998 or 1999, I think), I wrote an intro
article about antennas for home stations.  The specifics may be a little
dated, but I believe the concepts are still valid--maybe more so today with
only LEOs to work.  If you are interested, here is the,admitedly aged,
article:
http://web.archive.org/web/20001005114432/http://members.aol.com/k5oejerry/ana
lysis.htm

If you want the short version (don't we all?), here's the summary:

1.  Big antennas for LEO satellites are a personal choice, but not the only
one that works.
2.  Elevation control is nice to have, but not mandatory either.  The need
for elevation control is related to the gain of the antennae and the size of
your budget.
3.  Ditto for automatic control of the antenna array.
4.  Popular options, that will all work, are listed in decending order of
complexity and cost (you choose):
    A.  Oscar Class Station:  big CP beams, G-5400, auto-tracking, etc.
    B.  VHFer station:  using less expensive beams already on the tower and
just adding elevation control (PA3GUO posting)
    C.  HOA Restrictions Special:  small 3 or 4 ele beams, good preamps at
the antennas, and an amplifier in the attic.  Elevation control not required.

For the price of a new G-5400 you could turn that dual-band HT into a
mini-OCS:  $150 for a pair of small V/U beams, $150 for a UHF preamp, $75
for a TV rotor, and $100 for an 80 W VHF amp.  But then you would be tempted
to run FD as 1D and all your pals would lose respect for you :-)

73,
Jerry, K5OE






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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 13:24:14 -0500
From: "jerry keeton" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  sat for emergencies
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <CE9F919C13F2406E9A61991D357EA670@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

For field day qso , You don't need grid . You exchange station ID.  WB5LHD
1d la .
Control operator , which You should already have His info , says : confirm
WB5LHD  1d la.
How many contacts could You make in one pass? And then a different operator
for next pass on West Coast. Or if We're lucky , Maybe 3 passes . I am
curious to know how many " confirmed " contacts were made on one pass ?

Jerry WB5LHD

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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:27:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adrian Engele <aa5uk@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Nova Keps Update > Nova now updated at NLSA
website
To: "wolthui3@xxx.xxxx <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>, Sven Arne Astrup
<sastrup@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1309285650.93261.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

All,

I just checked the Nova Satellite page and it appears a new release just
came out on 6/23/2011 that fixes the Space-Track.org issue.
I have not tried it yet. I will check when I get home tonight.

Just wanted to pass this along as most of us where busy with Field Day!


73, Adrian AA5UK




________________________________
From: "wolthui3@xxx.xxxx <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>
To: Sven Arne Astrup <sastrup@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 6:24 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Nova Keps Update

I have had lots of questions privately how I got Nova to work again.? So,
for all, here is what I did...

I went to Kep. Elements menu and on the Space-Track.org I unchecked all the
boxes so that nothing is currently updating from Space-Track (until they fix
Nova for SSL).

I then clicked on HTTP and changed the remove URL to www.amsat.org
Then I removed everything in Remote Files and added the following AMSAT path:
amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all

Then I said OK and clicked back on Kep. Elements, Internet Update, Start
Download and it grabbed the nasa.all keps from AMSAT and loaded them
perfectly.

Hope this helps!
Mike
kb8zgl

Quoting Sven Arne Astrup <sastrup@xxxxxx.xx>:

> Hallo Mike!
>
> Thanks for your answer. Think I know how you did it, but would love to
> receive the path just in case, hi.
> NOVA is a nice program, and will keep on using it as long as I can!
>
> 73 de Sven LA6KJ
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wolthuis [mailto:wolthui3@xxx.xxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:50 PM
> To: Sven Arne Astrup
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nova Keps Update
>
> Sven,
> I was able to get this to work.? I had to go to the second page and remove
> the URLs and stop using Space-Track at least for now.
> I duplicated in Nova the path to the amsat files and use the http option
> in Nova to grab from Amsat.
>
> Worked like a charm!? I love NOVA, so glad it was able to be fixed.
>
> I can post the path to the nova.all if you need later tonight.
>
> Granted this only gets amateur satellites updated, but works great.? I
> have not tried to fix the Space-Track URLs yet, but I believe they are
> also fixable.
>
> Mike
> kb8zgl
>
>
> On 6/13/11 11:53 PM, "Sven Arne Astrup" <sastrup@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
>> Hi!
>>
>>
>>
>> I know this question has been asked before!
>>
>> Could someone give me a lesson on how to get the NOVA Internet Keps Update
>> to work again from the Space-Track homepage.
>>
>> There is no problems logging in on the Spacetrack homepage using my
>> username
>> and password.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73 de Sven LA6KJ
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:23:06 -0700
From: k6yk <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CA Ham Plates - Warning!
To: clintbradford@xxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hee Hee... !
I love it..  It's not just ham plates but any of those
personalized or "special" plates that cause confusion.

I have run lots of plates that came back invalid, and by doing
as you say, putting in spaces, or trying a different category of
plate, etc. they will come back OK.

Also, you might have commercial plates with ham call on them.
Now, what do they do?  Run it as a "Auto", or "commercial" ?
Try both!

What usually brings the coppers on in force is when you run a plate
and it comes back valid but to another car..  Definitely something
strange
going on there!

 Watch your back~!

73,
John, K6YK


On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:05:18 -0700 Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
writes:
> If you are a ham with personalized license plates (probably in ANY
> state of the US, but
> particularly in CA), then you might want to check this Web page out
> ...
>
> And if you just find me otherwise irritating, you'll love to see
> seven police units respond
> to my traffic stop today ... (grin)
>
> http://tinyurl.com/CLINT-BUSTED
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>
>
>
>
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Message: 14
Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 14:42:33 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: subscribe
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Subscribe???  What does this mean???
If you want to enroll in the AMSAT-bb, go to the website and see the column
on the left for mail services and subscribe to the ones you want-keeping in
mind if you are not part of any of the items (IE  BOD) you cannot subscribe.
Have fun    Join AMSAT and 73,
Dee, NB2F

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