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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FD Mess (STeve Andre')
2. Re: FD Mess (John Geiger)
3. Re: FD Mess (Reicher, James)
4. Re: FD Mess (Bob- W7LRD)
5. Re: FD Mess (STeve Andre')
6. Re: FD Mess (John Geiger)
7. Re: FD Mess (Dee)
8. How to get started on SSB birds (Jeremy Widner)
9. Field Day (jerry keeton)
10. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (Jeremy Widner)
12. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (PE0SAT)
13. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (Andrew Glasbrenner)
14. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (Jeremy Widner)
15. Re: FD Mess (Gordon JC Pearce)
16. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (PE0SAT)
17. Re: How to get started on SSB birds (Andrew Glasbrenner)
18. Mailing List (David Barber)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:09:45 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E08D579.2030201@xxx.xxx>
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Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. People see it as such.
My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to me and it was only
later, reading all the ARRL books I could get ahold of that I realized it
really wasn't one.
All contests where you go outside are test runs for emergency stuff.
Our club in Ann Arbor MI (Arrow Communication Association) does the
summer vhf+ contests outside (6m-1296) and those have been a great
way to figure out ways of doing stuff.
I would argue that the ARRL needs to change the way they talk, and
offer FD as both a contest and exercise in communications, and
speak of the exercise opportunities at the other contests, especially
those of rovers.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
On 06/27/11 14:21, Nigel Gunn wrote:
> A bigger FD problem is that FD is advertised as a chance to demonstrate
> your emergency comms ability to Joe Public.
> FD is NOT a contest so why are points and bonuses involved at all?
>
> On 27/06/11 19:13, Bill Acito W1PA wrote:
>> I think we have to let go of the mantra that ?any use of the bandwidth is
good use? with respect to ?encouraging more satellite activity?. Wasn?t
that the original intent of the ?100 point bonus? items? To encourage
specific activities ? traffic handling, promotion, emergency power, etc.
>>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:11:01 -0500
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=SB0SyyrnRuZmTrnOaijPhc91KDg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
Of course it isn't a contest. The best evidence is that they print the
scores in QST!
73s John AA5JG
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:09 PM, STeve Andre' <andres@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. People see it as
> such.
> My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to me and it was only
> later, reading all the ARRL books I could get ahold of that I realized it
> really wasn't one.
>
> All contests where you go outside are test runs for emergency stuff.
> Our club in Ann Arbor MI (Arrow Communication Association) does the
> summer vhf+ contests outside (6m-1296) and those have been a great
> way to figure out ways of doing stuff.
>
> I would argue that the ARRL needs to change the way they talk, and
> offer FD as both a contest and exercise in communications, and
> speak of the exercise opportunities at the other contests, especially
> those of rovers.
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf en72
>
> On 06/27/11 14:21, Nigel Gunn wrote:
> > A bigger FD problem is that FD is advertised as a chance to demonstrate
> > your emergency comms ability to Joe Public.
> > FD is NOT a contest so why are points and bonuses involved at all?
> >
> > On 27/06/11 19:13, Bill Acito W1PA wrote:
> >> I think we have to let go of the mantra that ?any use of the bandwidth
> is good use? with respect to ?encouraging more satellite activity?. Wasn?t
> that the original intent of the ?100 point bonus? items? To encourage
> specific activities ? traffic handling, promotion, emergency power, etc.
> >>
> >
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:11:36 -0500
From: "Reicher, James" <JReicher@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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The ARRL doesn't care! According to them, "Field Day is not a contest; no
certificates are awarded" and
"ARRL Field Day is not a fully adjudicated contest, which explains much of
its popularity"
So, no awards, no disqualifications. Just posting your scores on the wall
with nothing to back it up.
In other words, it's one giant fish story. The biggest liar wins.
73 de W0HV, Jim in Raymore, MO
Light travels faster than sound... This is why some people appear bright
until you hear them speak.
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 11:51:42 -0500
From: Floyd Rodgers <kc5qbc@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Guys, this seems simple to fix. The arrl gets the logs of everyone. How
hard is it to build a table of the sat contacts and check who gets more
than the allowed one contact?
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 19:40:39 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1098996947.206750.1309203639092.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
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After all the hoopala settles.? When/where else can you play with radios, go
camping, go potty in the woods, get bug bites, have a good time with
friends, and figure how all this stuff works.? Because, ?just maybe, one day
you'll have to do it for real!
still scratching bites
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle
----- Original Message -----
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 12:09:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. ?People see it as such.
My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to me and it was only
later, reading all the ARRL books I could get ahold of that I realized it
really wasn't one.
All contests where you go outside are test runs for emergency stuff.
Our club in Ann Arbor MI (Arrow Communication Association) does the
summer vhf+ contests outside (6m-1296) and those have been a great
way to figure out ?ways of doing stuff.
I would argue that the ARRL needs to change the way they talk, and
offer FD as both a contest and exercise in communications, and
speak of the exercise opportunities at the other contests, especially
those of rovers.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf ?en72
On 06/27/11 14:21, Nigel Gunn wrote:
> A bigger FD problem is that FD is advertised as a chance to demonstrate
> your emergency comms ability to Joe Public.
> FD is NOT a contest so why are points and bonuses ?involved at all?
>
> On 27/06/11 19:13, Bill Acito W1PA wrote:
>> I think we have to let go of the mantra that ?any use of the bandwidth is
good use? with respect to ??encouraging more satellite activity?. Wasn?t
that the original intent of the ?100 point bonus? items? To encourage
specific activities ? traffic handling, promotion, emergency power, etc.
>>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:43:03 -0400
From: "STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4E08DD47.90403@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
Me, I'm recovering from bad sunburn. I look like a lobster ready for
dinner...
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
On 06/27/11 15:40, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
> After all the hoopala settles. When/where else can you play with
> radios, go camping, go potty in the woods, get bug bites, have a good
> time with friends, and figure how all this stuff works. Because,
> just maybe, one day you'll have to do it for real!
>
> still scratching bites
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> Seattle
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> *From: *"STeve Andre'" <andres@xxx.xxx>
> *To: *amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> *Sent: *Monday, June 27, 2011 12:09:45 PM
> *Subject: *[amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
>
> Well, is IS a contest, no matter what the ARRL says. People see it as
> such.
> My first FD before I was a ham, looked like a contest to me and it was
> only
> later, reading all the ARRL books I could get ahold of that I realized it
> really wasn't one.
>
> All contests where you go outside are test runs for emergency stuff.
> Our club in Ann Arbor MI (Arrow Communication Association) does the
> summer vhf+ contests outside (6m-1296) and those have been a great
> way to figure out ways of doing stuff.
>
> I would argue that the ARRL needs to change the way they talk, and
> offer FD as both a contest and exercise in communications, and
> speak of the exercise opportunities at the other contests, especially
> those of rovers.
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf en72
>
> On 06/27/11 14:21, Nigel Gunn wrote:
> > A bigger FD problem is that FD is advertised as a chance to demonstrate
> > your emergency comms ability to Joe Public.
> > FD is NOT a contest so why are points and bonuses involved at all?
> >
> > On 27/06/11 19:13, Bill Acito W1PA wrote:
> >> I think we have to let go of the mantra that ?any use of the
> bandwidth is good use? with respect to ?encouraging more satellite
> activity?. Wasn?t that the original intent of the ?100 point bonus?
> items? To encourage specific activities ? traffic handling, promotion,
> emergency power, etc.
> >>
> >
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 14:54:23 -0500
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTikgykQO03iQvwpanAEpjbtX8pJfEw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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That is a good point. I am sure that if/when the big one hits and we need
to pass emergency communications, we will have to do it under less than
optimal conditions or "rules" including on the satellites. When such an
occassion occurs, I doubt everyone will be limiting themselves to 5 watts or
less, or only 1 QSO per satellite per day or weekend. I think most people
will be trying to get through any way they can to pass traffic. We should
get used to the pandamonium, that it what it will actually be like.
73s John AA5JG
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 2:40 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
> Because, just maybe, one day you'll have to do it for real!
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:58:27 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001d01cc3504$949a8e40$bdcfaac0$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Wow,
This certainly brought about heavy criticism from the satellite community.
I for one encourage this discussion. It seems to break down to having a
satellite that is a linear bird and wide enough to let everyone find a good
spot and communicate- something like the HF bands provided this past
weekend.
It seems that the Field day ops would like to see another HEO or MEO linear
since most of them came armed for this type of bird usage. The FM birds
are not a useful item for the one QSO that is needed for these 100 points.
I had an ARROW that was split up on a Yaesu rotor with LVB tracker
controlling the antenna and rig. This was a great conversation demo while
waiting for a pass. Many interested operators and satellite user wanabees
came to look at the neat stuff.
Unfortunately, In order to get another HEO or MEO bird the class of OSCAR
10, 13, and/or 40 will take a campaign that will ask us operators to dig
deep into our pockets to produce such a satellite. With ITAR in recent
memory as a roadblock to international co-operation, collaboration between
AMSAT organizations is at an impasse. Yes, the smaller more compact
cubesats are filled with the newest technology and I believe that this is
the way to go. ARRISat is due to be dropped off in orbit in July and has
this type of electronics. Another LEO.
I will be monitoring and keeping track of people that are reminiscing about
the linear birds we used in the past and were able to satisfy the needs of
all that wanted to have a QSO via Satellites. If you feel like me about a
new campaign, it is going to have a big price tag. This is why we assist
the higher learning institutions to assemble a linear bird along with their
experiments since they have the money to put them together along with a
"launch opportunity." This saves the satellite community very hard to find
funding.
Dee Interdonato, NB2F
Dee Interdonato
118 Westervelt Place
Lodi, NJ 07644
973-772-8229
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:00:28 -0500
From: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=LGay0iSdiaAsUktAFe2vVGWJ10g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow
antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a
Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was
wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb birds
without using a tower. My preference is to build something as money is
always an issue (insert wife).
--
73
Jeremy Widner
K0PDX
http://k0pdx.us
Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
http://k0gq.com/
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:02:42 -0500
From: "jerry keeton" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9187A1337B2C49A79195009DE104F7C1@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
My take on the field day sats:
Why not some one on the East Coast and some one on the West Coast volunteer
to operate as a net . That way there would not be the 2 way confusion . A
net control could confirm the contacts much faster and get many more
contacts. Just a thought.
Jerry WB5LHD
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 20:09:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<657904324.231984.1309205364454.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Build Egg beaters
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds
I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow
antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a
Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was
wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb birds
without using a tower. My preference is to build something as money is
always an issue (insert wife).
--
73
Jeremy Widner
K0PDX
http://k0pdx.us
Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
http://k0gq.com/
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:15:34 -0500
From: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikrgxQoLtdBb0d0X0bY5dqtD1cG3w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I forgot one more question. What bird would be the best to get started on
with SSB?
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Build Egg beaters
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds
>
> I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow
> antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a
> Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was
> wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb
> birds
> without using a tower. My preference is to build something as money is
> always an issue (insert wife).
>
> --
> 73
> Jeremy Widner
> K0PDX
> http://k0pdx.us
> Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
> http://k0gq.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
--
73
Jeremy Widner
K0PDX
http://k0pdx.us
Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
http://k0gq.com/
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:19:53 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110627201952.E3F381A090@xx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Hi Jeremy,
Have a look at the following link: http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/?Satellite:Help
maybe this will give you the information you're looking for.
73 Jan PE0SAT
On Mon, June 27, 2011 22:00, Jeremy Widner wrote:
> I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow
> antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a
> Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was
> wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb
> birds
> without using a tower. My preference is to build something as money is
> always an issue (insert wife).
>
> --
> 73
> Jeremy Widner
> K0PDX
> http://k0pdx.us
> Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
> http://k0gq.com/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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--
With regards Jan H. van Gils
Internet web-page http://www.VGNet.NL/
Internet e-mail address JanVG[at]VGNet.NL
Niet Zwammen maar doen ......
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:27:50 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4E08E7C6.1090601@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
The first and smallest step would be to take that Arrow, hook it to your
2000 on a picnic table or tailgate, and start listening to passes. That
will copy all of the transponder satellites. Tune around, listen, and
then work on making a QSO or two. The rest will go pretty naturally.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 15:30:47 -0500
From: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimDhFxVu_iAU4K-Cx2S_r+GCjYk=Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
I am going to assume my IC-706 should work with the exception of the 70cm
birds correct? That is what is mounted in the jeep and a little easier to
work with than the 2000.
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The first and smallest step would be to take that Arrow, hook it to your
> 2000 on a picnic table or tailgate, and start listening to passes. That will
> copy all of the transponder satellites. Tune around, listen, and then work
> on making a QSO or two. The rest will go pretty naturally.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
--
73
Jeremy Widner
K0PDX
http://k0pdx.us
Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
http://k0gq.com/
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 21:33:34 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FD Mess
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110627213334.9c49525f.gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Mon, 27 Jun 2011 13:48:48 -0500
Patrick Green <pagreen@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The ARRL should impose an ERP limit for satellite contacts. That
> would solve the problem. I don't see how running amplifiers on FD is
> in the spirit of what FD is all about. I've made contacts using 50 mw
> so why do stations use 100+ watts *before* the antenna.. I wouldn't
> want my kids playing around a FD site with this time of setup.
Wouldn't that be AMSAT's job? It's certainly possible to work an FM bird
with 5W from a handie, and a hand-held yagi.
I don't understand the obsession with having all-singing-all-dancing
computer-controlled setups, where it automatically updates its orbital
elements, automatically calculates when the next pass is, automatically
calculates where to steer the aerial and what to tune the radio to and
leaving the operator to just push the PTT and shout over the top of the
QRP/P stations.
All the computer-controlled stuff just plain isn't amateur radio. If you
want to sit in front of a computer and talk to people, use Skype.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 22:33:08 +0200
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <20110627203308.842501A098@xx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Jeremy give VO-52 a change, great SAT
73 Jan PE0SAT
On Mon, June 27, 2011 22:15, Jeremy Widner wrote:
> I forgot one more question. What bird would be the best to get started on
> with SSB?
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 3:09 PM, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Build Egg beaters
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jeremy Widner" <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2011 3:00:28 PM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] How to get started on SSB birds
>>
>> I have been doing FM birds for a couple of years now with HTs and Arrow
>> antennas. I am ready to start messing with the other birds. I have a
>> Kenwood TS-2000 for a rig. I do NOT currently have a tower up. I was
>> wondering antenna suggestions you guys might have to jump into the ssb
>> birds
>> without using a tower. My preference is to build something as money is
>> always an issue (insert wife).
>>
>> --
>> 73
>> Jeremy Widner
>> K0PDX
>> http://k0pdx.us
>> Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
>> http://k0gq.com/
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>
>
>
> --
> 73
> Jeremy Widner
> K0PDX
> http://k0pdx.us
> Secretary Raytown Amateur Radio Club - K0GQ
> http://k0gq.com/
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With regards Jan H. van Gils
Internet web-page http://www.VGNet.NL/
Internet e-mail address JanVG[at]VGNet.NL
Niet Zwammen maar doen ......
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Message: 17
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2011 16:33:54 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: How to get started on SSB birds
To: Jeremy Widner <jeremyrwidner@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On 6/27/2011 4:30 PM, Jeremy Widner wrote:
> I am going to assume my IC-706 should work with the exception of the
> 70cm birds correct? That is what is mounted in the jeep and a little
> easier to work with than the 2000.
>
The 706 will receive VO-52 and AO-7 just fine. Remember AO-7 alternates
2m and 10m downlinks every 24 hours. I'll suggest you'll even copy some
VO-52 traffic with a mobile antenna.
73, Drew KO4MA
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