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Today's Topics:
1. Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites (John Becker)
2. CO6CBF-EL92 ready in LotW (hmartinez@xxx.xxx.xxx
3. Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
4. Re: VO52 and verticals (Tony Langdon)
5. Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites (Tony Langdon)
6. AO-51 L/U (Louis House, KD5GM)
7. Re: AO-51 L/U (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: AO-51 L/U (Bob- W7LRD)
9. Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch
(Jordan Hayes KG6UAE)
10. Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon Launch
(joe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
11. Balloon (Kevin Deane)
12. Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites (Joe Krepps)
13. Balloon (Kevin Deane)
14. Re: Balloon (Jeff Moore)
15. Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites (B J)
16. FS: ARR 2M preamp SP144VDG (Mark L. Hammond)
17. 2M1EUB QRV ISLANDS OF HARRIS & LEWIS W.SCOTLAND (paul robinson)
18. 2M PREAMP (Gary Lockhart)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:32:05 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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At 01:01 PM 6/9/2011, you wrote:
>Actually, if stations would spread out a bit more on the transponders,
>this would be even less of an issue.
>There is so much space that goes
>to waste on these transponders, when everyone seems to never go
>more than a few kHz up or down from the center.
True.
I'm a very big on computer control.
It seems that once you find a "free" spot it's yours.
That is till someone chasing someone else crosses
your QSO.
I really fail to see how someone with a pair of H/T's
tuning and tuning and tuning can call that fun.
I'll stick with my FT847 and computer control.
John, W0JAB
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:42:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: hmartinez@xxx.xxx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] CO6CBF-EL92 ready in LotW
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello Guys
Now, I am able to confirm the contacts
using LotW also. Today, I uploaded my last Sat log.
Thanks very much
Hector, CO6CBF
EL92SD
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 13:43:00 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi John!
> I'm a very big on computer control.
> It seems that once you find a "free" spot it's yours.
> That is till someone chasing someone else crosses
> your QSO.
This is where spreading out would come in handy. This
seems to be more of an issue on FO-29, where the
general convention is to adjust the 70cm downlink - by
letting it drift down - while keeping the 2m uplink fixed.
I see this as less of an issue on AO-7 or VO-52, where
adjustments are generally made on the uplink if someone
isn't running full computer control. For AO-7 and VO-52,
it would still help if stations would spread out a little more
and made use of more of the space on those transponders.
> I really fail to see how someone with a pair of H/T's
> tuning and tuning and tuning can call that fun.
I wish my 817s were HT-sized. I could easily shrink the size
of the bag I carried my gear in to and from Australia if they
were that small, for example if I had radio sized like the
TH-F6A I have. :-)
My old laptop bag that could handle laptops with 17" LCD
displays has been perfect for carrying my 817s, TH-F6A, and
all sorts of other items I use for portable satellite operating.
The two 817s would go in the space where a laptop would go,
and then there's lots of other pockets and areas for the rest
of the stuff. Even space to jam some non-radio stuff, to
avoid overweight charges for my checked bags.
There really isn't so much of the "tuning and tuning and
tuning" you describe when working SSB via satellite. Yes,
minor adjustments are done with every over during a QSO
or when making repeated CQ calls, but that's nothing
compared to chasing the S-band downlink when AO-51 had
it on in the past. Now that was "tuning and tuning and tuning"
throughout a pass.
> I'll stick with my FT847 and computer control.
I have thought about trying computer control at length for my
situation operating portable, and have chosen not to go in that
direction. In any event, I prefer getting on the satellites with the
gear I have and manually adjusting the radios over not getting
on those satellites at all. I also have the same station available
away from home - sometimes very far from home - as I would
use here in Phoenix.
And, yes - even with the manual tuning I have to do for working
SSB and CW via satellite, it is fun!
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:14:15 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VO52 and verticals
To: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4df145c0.0121440a.341b.0292@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 02:35 AM 6/10/2011, John Geiger wrote:
>Has anyone had success getting into VO52 using a vertical, omnidirectional
>antenna on the uplink. I have a nice M2 2M9SSB for 2m but only have a
>dualband J pole to cover UHF with and wonder if I could get into VO52 with
>it for my uplink antenna.
I have tried, but wasn't confident enough with my downlink signal
strength to attempt a QSO on SSB.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 08:19:19 +1000
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
To: "Tom Schaefer, NY4I" <ny4i@xxxx.xxx>, David Palmer KB5WIA
<kb5wia@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
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At 04:06 AM 6/10/2011, Tom Schaefer, NY4I wrote:
>This is a great thread.
>
>Well, I am going to continue with full doppler and just resolve
>myself to tuning in some people that are not quite there yet. As a
>lot, I would think adding computer control to handle full doppler
>would not be that big a deal nowadays as most of the programs
>support it. I am not telling you how to spend your money though. The
>big test will be at Field Day when I am using full doppler and
>listening to everyone do the doppler-shuffle. :)
When I get my antennas sorted, I'm in the computer controlled camp
(which was helpful for testing). I may be able to solve a few issues
by taking the Macbook into the field and using it to provide Doppler
correction for a mobile/portable station. Computer control will save
me a couple of arms adjusting VFOs, so I'll be free to point the
antenna at the right patch of sky. :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:44:06 -0500
From: "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 L/U
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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In the scheme of things, will AO-51 be in L/U voice mode anytime soon? If
so has those UP and Down link frequencies changed?
Thanks,
LOUIS, KD5GM in EL29kq
CW, The original digital mode
AMSAT #37061: FIST #3606
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:16:52 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 L/U
To: "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <939F3D5E-A213-4948-9241-A5E5BF54C42E@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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With the battery problems we can't use the L receiver. I don't expect to be
able to run L/U for a long time, if ever again.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:44 PM, "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> In the scheme of things, will AO-51 be in L/U voice mode anytime soon? If
so has those UP and Down link frequencies changed?
>
> Thanks,
> LOUIS, KD5GM in EL29kq
> CW, The original digital mode
> AMSAT #37061: FIST #3606
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 23:29:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 L/U
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Louis House, KD5GM"
<kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<754219852.391709.1307662184648.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxx
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That was the only place we could play with our L & S stuff since AO-40
(sobsob).
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 9, 2011 4:16:52 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 L/U
With the battery problems we can't use the L receiver. I don't expect to be
able to run L/U for a long time, if ever again.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 9, 2011, at 6:44 PM, "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> In the scheme of things, will AO-51 be in L/U voice mode anytime soon? ?If
so has those UP and Down link frequencies changed?
>
> Thanks,
> LOUIS, KD5GM in EL29kq
> CW, The original digital mode
> AMSAT #37061: FIST #3606
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 12:09:55 -0700
From: "Jordan Hayes KG6UAE" <kg6uae@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon
Launch
To: "'TAPR APRS Mailing List'" <aprssig@xxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <B65EEE60E19F4E32A6655D31E5B646BD@xxxxxxxx>
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> Balloon is up!
> http://aprs.fi/KF7ODR-1
> But their main interest is their UHF packet downlink on 437.092
My TM-D700 in Berkeley doesn't seem to go to lower step size than 5khz,
but I can sorta hear some squawking on 437.090 ... at least it's better
than 437.09375 ...
But, alas, my radio doesn't decode any messages.
/jordan KG6UAE
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 15:49:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: "joe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <joe@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [aprssig] FW: NASA Ames Phonesat Balloon
Launch
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx TAPR APRS Mailing List <aprssig@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<970225582.22620.1307648967532.JavaMail.open-xchange@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
?
Last path:KF7ODR-1>3W5VYP via WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1,qAR,KI6JJW-1
[http://aprs.fi/info/KI6JJW-1] (seriously-bad)
[http://d1dhsh1i77j8ju.cloudfront.net/img/path-seriously-bad.png]
This station appears to be flying at high altitude and using digipeaters,
which
causes serious congestion in the APRS network. The tracker should be
configured
to only use digipeaters when at low altitude
?
APRS.FI is mad at you!
?
73
Joe N3HGB
On June 9, 2011 at 3:09 PM Jordan Hayes KG6UAE <kg6uae@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Balloon is up!
> > http://aprs.fi/KF7ODR-1
> > But their main interest is their UHF packet downlink on 437.092
>
> My TM-D700 in Berkeley doesn't seem to go to lower step size than 5khz,
> but I can sorta hear some squawking on 437.090 ... at least it's better
> than 437.09375 ...
>
> But, alas, my radio doesn't decode any messages.
>
> /jordan KG6UAE
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
> https://www.tapr.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/aprssig
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 17:28:17 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Balloon
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <col107-w537D6891A79053FAFEBB1083640@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
You know here are some people trying to do an experiment of whatever kind,
probably spent alot of time and money on the project and I think that is
great. I was tracking it and was waiting for it to get above the Sierra's
and try to get the downlink. Would have been neat.
BUT here we have people saying this and that and complaining... What a bunch
of spoil sports, I mean really who cares. Like it was really gonna disrupt
the whole APRS system, and if it did for a little while WHO CARES, GIVE THE
GUYS A BREAK!!!
Anyway, good try guys and am looking forward to another attempt.
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 09 Jun 2011 21:07:02 -0400
From: "Joe Krepps" <occupant@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <op.vwt5d0w2aadv7j@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx>
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So for the operator with a single FT-817ND - understanding there will be a
learning curve in regards to doppler, doing the "Arrow wave" entertaining
and/or frightening the neighbors, is AO-7 do-able or just not a really
good idea?
Won't be ticked off if the answer is "probably best not to try". Honest!
:) I'm guessing it'll take a lot of programming memory channels to stay on
track?
73!
Joe <-already has MacDoppler Lite and a couple sat. iPhone apps.
WB3CFN
FM19
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 18:53:48 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Balloon
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL107-W122B88DE96CA5C1722F95B83640@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
You know here are some people trying to do an experiment of whatever kind,
probably spent alot of time and money on the project and I think that is
great. I was tracking it and was waiting for it to get above the Sierra's
and try to get the downlink. Would have been neat.
BUT here we have people saying this and that and complaining... What a bunch
of spoil sports, I mean really who cares. Like it was really gonna disrupt
the whole APRS system, and if it did for a little while WHO CARES, GIVE THE
GUYS A BREAK!!!
Anyway, good try guys and am looking forward to another attempt.
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 19:18:29 -0700
From: "Jeff Moore" <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Balloon
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <292CE1785BC746CBB6CE9290F3CBBBE0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I think the "complaint" you're referring to is an artifact of the APRS.FI
website not a particular person complaining.
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
CN94
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kevin Deane" <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2011 6:53 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Balloon
You know here are some people trying to do an experiment of whatever kind,
probably spent alot of time and money on the project and I think that is
great. I was tracking it and was waiting for it to get above the Sierra's
and try to get the downlink. Would have been neat.
BUT here we have people saying this and that and complaining... What a bunch
of spoil sports, I mean really who cares. Like it was really gonna disrupt
the whole APRS system, and if it did for a little while WHO CARES, GIVE THE
GUYS A BREAK!!!
Anyway, good try guys and am looking forward to another attempt.
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2011 21:36:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: B J <top_gun_canada@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SSB Operation on the Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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<snip>
> So for the operator with a single
> FT-817ND - understanding there will be a
> learning curve in regards to doppler, doing the "Arrow
> wave" entertaining
> and/or frightening the neighbors, is AO-7 do-able or just
> not a really
> good idea?
>
> Won't be ticked off if the answer is "probably best not to
> try". Honest!
> :) I'm guessing it'll take a lot of programming memory
> channels to stay on
> track?
<snip>
Last year, I tried using HO-68 on SSB with my FT-817ND and had mixed
results. Most of the time, other stations heard my signal but couldn't
contact me because my downlink settings were too far off frequency.
A few months ago, I bought a second-hand '847 and I've been practicing on
VO-52 and AO-7 during passes which are fairly quiet and I'm less likely to
interfere with other stations.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 10:01:53 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: ARR 2M preamp SP144VDG
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTimqmq7ojOu3S3VBEVKQSYn7=PTn1A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi All,
I have a spare ARR SP144VDG 2M preamp that I'm willing to part with
for $80 (shipped, CONUSA). It's in perfect working order and in
good shape cosmetically (inside use only).
This is the 25 watt RF switched, low noise version. It has BNC
connectors as pictured here; full specs there as well:
http://www.advancedreceiver.com/page7.html
You'd be amazed at what this will do for AO-7 and VO-52 2M downlinks!
Price is firm. If you are interested, contact me directly.
73,
--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 16:04:03 +0100 (BST)
From: paul robinson <pushbiker2004@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2M1EUB QRV ISLANDS OF HARRIS & LEWIS W.SCOTLAND
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <486476.15616.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
May be a first for a lot of stations ...new grid sq to be had and rare!
ill be qrv from ..the islands of HARRIS AND LEWIS ! (These islands are
located off the coast of W.SCOTLAND,)for about 2 weeks,this will depend on
rain/wind etc opperating from the van.
Most action will be on A07 but may try other birds as well.
Ill be also mobile all over N.Scotland AND island of Skye...
fun starts 2.JULY.11.
up dates on amsat bb & qrz/2M1EUB.
NEW QSL CARD TO BE HAD.
?
73 DE PAUL 2E1EUB
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 09:30:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gary Lockhart <gary_lockhart33@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2M PREAMP
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <734317.48717.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Mark,
Is it still available? If so I'll take it. How do you want payment?
Thanks, Gary AB3ID
Snow Hill, MD
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