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Today's Topics:
1. Re: What is the status of AO-51 again? (Andrew Glasbrenner)
2. new sat (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Live wed cast (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: What is the status of AO-51 again? (Alexander Sack)
5. Re: new sat (Alexander Sack)
6. Re: new sat (Bob Bruninga)
7. Re: new sat (Alexander Sack)
8. AO51 Tracking Gadget (Zachary Beougher)
9. Re: AO-51 Tracking Widget (Clint Bradford)
10. Re: Time to have a FUND raiser for a new bird (Clint Bradford)
11. IC-W32a on QRZ.com (Clint Bradford)
12. Re: new sat (Andrew Glasbrenner)
13. Re: Live wed cast (Edward R. Cole)
14. Re: new sat (Johann Lochner)
15. Re: new sat (John Geiger)
16. Palos Verdes Newsletter (Clint Bradford)
17. Re: new sat (G0MRF@xxx.xxxx
18. Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget (B J)
19. Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget (George Henry)
20. Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget (Ron Miles)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:38:10 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What is the status of AO-51 again?
To: Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<32022230.1305729490659.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>I do (did), but that page is not very helpful regarding an individual pass?
>
>"The uplink is 145.880, and the downlink is 435.150. We are working on
>trying to automate this."
>
>So I am on 435.150 but the last couple of passes have been silent over
>FN20. Can others confirm?
>
This is the important part:
"At this time the command team is turning the repeater on and off during
some US passes, mainly in the afternoon, and only as available. The repeater
is open to all when this happens."
It's only going to be on when a command station is around and available to
do it, until we get the process automated. I haven't had the chance to turn
it on since Sunday afternoon.
73, Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:46:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] new sat
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<2007621822.143930.1305729985830.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Time to have a FUND raiser for a new bird
WA4HFN
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 14:54:08 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Live wed cast
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1090455569.144563.1305730448307.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
http://w5kub.com/
Log in and watch
WA4HFN
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:55:27 -0400
From: Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: What is the status of AO-51 again?
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTikxbwoXnt8DBznMU9GRgu7fenosUA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>>I do (did), but that page is not very helpful regarding an individual pass?
>>
>>"The uplink is 145.880, and the downlink is 435.150. We are working on
>>trying to automate this."
>>
>>So I am on 435.150 but the last couple of passes have been silent over
>>FN20. ?Can others confirm?
>>
>
> This is the important part:
>
> "At this time the command team is turning the repeater on and off during
some US passes, mainly in the afternoon, and only as available. The repeater
is open to all when this happens."
>
> It's only going to be on when a command station is around and available to
do it, until we get the process automated. I haven't had the chance to turn
it on since Sunday afternoon.
I understand. I am not trying to be a pain or ungrateful. I realize
AO-51 is having some troubles (based on your last status updates) but
the above statements are still unclear when I should or shouldn't go
out to listen to a pass. That's all I was saying.
I want you and the team to do what is necessary obviously to get the
most out of the AO-51 project. I just felt miserable after standing
in the rain twice and hearing nothing!
73
-aps
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:02:07 -0400
From: Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=n2aekUJwVV7V7H9Yv3qSK6rF66A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> ?Time to have a FUND raiser for a new bird
Somebody just asked me, how much is it to develop/launch a new bird?
Anybody care to share some concrete numbers?
-aps
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:16:22 -0400
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: "'Alexander Sack'" <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <024f01cc156e$8c1230d0$a4369270$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> Somebody just asked me, how much is it to develop/launch a new bird?
The typical small satellite projects I have seen in DoD typically cost about
$5 to $10 million or more. Then for DoD, the launch is free (its gets paid
for out of a different pot)..
Bob, Wb4APR
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:22:10 -0400
From: Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTi=ttCe8NV1+EnH9RtRZyuzTBcPaCg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Commercial launches for the big comsats are anywhere from $90 million to
> $120 million depending on the spacecraft and launch vehicle.
>
Wow! Alright, outside DoD and commercial, what does an AMSAT project
typically cost? I had always thought it was less than a million
dollars.
-aps
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:24:43 -0400
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO51 Tracking Gadget
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT111-DS15AA835D0488A579171D3CB38F0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
reply-type=original
Hi All,
Can anyone tell me how/where I can get the code for the AO51, AO27, ISS,
SO50, etc., Google tracking gadgets powered by N2YO? See AO27?s gadget
here:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=7&retURL=/satellit
es/status.php
(halfway down) I see these things on a couple different sites, so there
must be an easier way to get it on my page without creating an entire new
gadget.
BTW, for those of you that will be commuting to Dayton, you can board the
ark in Cincinnati. ;-) It does look like the rain is going to hold off for
most of the weekend:
Friday, 20th: Partly Sunny, 74F
Saturday, 21st: Partly Sunny, 76F
Sunday, 22nd: Mostly Sunny w/ a 30% chance of storms. 80F
73,
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:35:11 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Tracking Widget
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <574FFC26-052A-4382-AF84-E8D6A15C04C3@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
>> where to get N2YO widget???
Donate a little money to N2YO via Paypal, and then ask him for a copy.
Clint Bradford. K6LCS
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:37:22 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Time to have a FUND raiser for a new bird
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <87C1CEFE-C705-4E1E-A984-43D2D680F6B2@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
We have been raising money for AMSAT-FOX for months ... have you visited the
AMSAT-MA home page recently?
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:42:29 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-W32a on QRZ.com
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <76D0461A-01AB-4F94-92D6-5C1586244AE0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
There's an IC-W32a on QRZ ... I have no idea who the seller is ...
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:43:27 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: Alexander Sack <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<9785961.1305733407650.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
>On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 10:46 AM, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> ?Time to have a FUND raiser for a new bird
>
>Somebody just asked me, how much is it to develop/launch a new bird?
>
>Anybody care to share some concrete numbers?
>
>-aps
AO-51 cost in the neighborhood of 400,000 dollars to build and launch.
Our current project, Fox, is designed as a replacement for the V/U repeater
on AO-51, and as a multi-function RF system for other cubesats. The idea is
to provide better quality RF systems for university cubes, and maybe after
their mission they can retask their satellite to two-way amateur service,
either as a repeater, transponder, or digital. There is a fundraiser widget
on the front page of amsat.org for Fox, and in several other places around
the web and on other websites. You can even add it to your own webpage.
Fox is a 1U cubesat, about 1kg in mass. We expect launch costs alone to be
from 30,000 to 70,000 dollars. Compare that to the number on the fundraising
widget, and you can see how far we have to go. There are many donations that
have been made outside of the widget, but the gap is still large.
The Dayton ARA has been kind enough to offer a matching donation to AMSAT,
3:1 up to 5,000 dollars. So, whether you are headed to Dayton this week or
not, your donation to AMSAT will be 33% matched automatically. Drop a few
dollars through the widget next time you cruise by the AMSAT website, and
help us make Fox a reality. Join AMSAT if you haven't already. Too few of
the everyday users of our satellites are AMSAT members. Membership helps
support AMSAT and our goals to keep amateur radio in space, and if you are a
regular user of satellites like AO-51, you should really support the
organization with your membership dollars.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 08:16:08 -0800
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Live wed cast
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <201105181616.p4IGG9Qm068482@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Nice video of truck on the interstate - so where is the
hamvention? I think all I did was sign up for mega spamming - thanks
At 06:54 AM 5/18/2011, wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>http://w5kub.com/
>Log in and watch
>WA4HFN
>_______________________________________________
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
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DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 18:19:30 +0200
From: "Johann Lochner" <lochner@xxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4DD40DB2.19780.1D6136A@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
On Wednesday, 2011-05-18 17:02 +0200, Alexander Sack wrote:
> Somebody just asked me, how much is it to develop/launch a new bird?
Labour and components for Sunsat (SO-35) cost around 11 million
South African rand (or 2 million USD at the time). The launch was
sponsored by NASA in exchange for payloads that were flown.
For Sumbandila (SO-67) it was 12 million ZAR (1.7 million USD). The
launch was financed by our Department of Science and Technology.
73 de ZR1CBC, Johann.
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 16:21:24 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: "Alexander Sack" <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>, <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <50B1A296DF1447B2863613EE5244A7C5@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Remember, anything the Gov't or DoD does costs 10 times what private
industry would cost.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Sack" <pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
> On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:21 AM, <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Commercial launches for the big comsats are anywhere from $90 million to
>> $120 million depending on the spacecraft and launch vehicle.
>>
>
> Wow! Alright, outside DoD and commercial, what does an AMSAT project
> typically cost? I had always thought it was less than a million
> dollars.
>
> -aps
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 09:35:40 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Palos Verdes Newsletter
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <CD414836-65DB-4655-AF62-1E361AAA5D8F@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
I am speaking tonight at the Palos Verdes Amateur Radio Club ... they just
sent me their May newsletter.
http://www.palosverdes.com/PVARC/2011QRO/QROMay2011.pdf
Geeze ... sat info on FIVE pages of the newsletter! Guess I should dress up
and wear a tie this evening ... (grin)
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 12:38:05 EDT
From: G0MRF@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: new sat
To: pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <32704.181f6213.3b054fed@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
$200,000 for something simple should do it. - If you're careful.
David G0MRF
In a message dated 18/05/2011 16:23:45 GMT Daylight Time,
pisymbol@xxxxx.xxx writes:
Somebody just asked me, how much is it to develop/launch a new bird?
Anybody care to share some concrete numbers?
-aps
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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:20:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: B J <top_gun_canada@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <812037.15041.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
<snip>
> Can anyone tell me how/where I can get the code for the
> AO51, AO27, ISS,
> SO50, etc., Google tracking gadgets powered by N2YO?
> See AO27?s gadget
> here:
>
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=7&retURL=/satellit
es/status.php
>
> (halfway down) I see these things on a couple
> different sites, so there
> must be an easier way to get it on my page without creating
> an entire new
> gadget.
<snip>
I'm not sure if this will answer your question. I've used the individual
N2YO pages to check the satellites that I'm interested in with the amateur
birds listed at:
http://n2yo.com/satellites/?c=18
Clicking on an individual link brings up a page giving the details. That
page also has a link which leads to another one which shows the real-time
tracking. It helps to know what the official name or NORAD ID is to get the
right link.
I've put the links to the satellites I track in my bookmark file.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 10:33:40 -0700 (PDT)
From: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget
To: Zachary Beougher <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <471884.91091.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
My guess would be that he is passing the DDE satellite position output from
some
tracking program to Google Maps via KML (Keyhole Markup Language)...
See http://code.google.com/apis/kml/documentation/ for more info on KML.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message ----
> From: Zachary Beougher <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Wed, May 18, 2011 10:24:43 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO51 Tracking Gadget
>
> Hi All,
>
> Can anyone tell me how/where I can get the code for the AO51, AO27, ISS,
> SO50, etc., Google tracking gadgets powered by N2YO?? See AO27?s gadget
> here:
>http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=7&retURL=/satelli
tes/status.php
>p
>
> (halfway down)? I see these things on a couple different sites, so there
> must be an easier way to get it on my page without creating an entire new
> gadget.
>
> BTW, for those of you that will be commuting to Dayton, you can board the
> ark in Cincinnati. ;-)? It does look like the rain is going to hold off for
> most of the weekend:
>
> Friday, 20th:? ? ? Partly Sunny, 74F
> Saturday, 21st:? Partly Sunny, 76F
> Sunday, 22nd:? Mostly Sunny w/ a 30% chance of storms.? 80F
>
> 73,
>
> Zack
> KD8KSN
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Message: 20
Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 11:42:25 -0700
From: Ron Miles <conimicut@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 Tracking Gadget
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BANLkTinaMwP8ru6YqsQwtBzJt1U0h4_9Vw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
A while back I think Cliff suggested these handy Apple Tracking Apps. I use
these on my iPod Touch.
http://www.gosoftworks.com/GoSatWatch/GoSatWatch.html
http://www.pocketsat.com/products/ps3iphone.php
Star finder apps here:
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/starmap-pro/id309367681?mt=8
:)
73, ron n6paa
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