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Today's Topics:
1. VUCC Fees - Dayton Hamvention (John Papay)
2. Re: VUCC Fees - Dayton Hamvention (John Geiger)
3. Demonstration Schedule for Dayton 2011 (Keith Pugh)
4. Fm satellite Frequencies and Doppler (mm0kjg)
5. IHU (Clint Bradford)
6. Re: IHU (Clint Bradford)
7. Re: Digi @ Dayton? (Zachary Beougher)
8. Re: IHU (Anthony Monteiro)
9. Re: IHU (i8cvs)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:02:21 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Fees - Dayton Hamvention
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If you are planning on going to Dayton, please take
some time to visit the ARRL area not far from the AMSAT
booth. Seek out the highest ranking officials you can find
and talk with them about the VUCC program and LOTW.
The fee schedule for VUCC applications, both paper and LOTW,
released back in mid January has not changed to my knowledge.
Very little has been said about this issue to date. The fees
were excessive and if continued, would have a negative impact
on the VUCC program.
You can talk about the high cost of an application but there is
nothing like comparing it to the cost of a similar DXCC application.
When you do that, it is apparent that something is not right. I
prepared a one sheet comparison of three typical VUCC vs DXCC
applications to give to ARRL officials at the Orlando Hamcation.
Newington was not present at Orlando but the Florida Director was
and got a copy. I have uploaded my comparison to my website. Please
print some copies, put them in your hamfest bag and give them to
those you talk with at the ARRL. The more League officials that see
this, the better chance we have of getting these fees reduced and in
line with DXCC application fees.
Download the comparison at: http://www.papays.com/vuccfees2011.pdf
There are many issues with the VUCC program other than fees. I made
an application back in mid January, two days after the new few schedule
appear on arrl.org. It was processed and my totals appeared on my LOTW
page. Last week I received the endorsement stickers but have yet to
receive the "VUCC Grid Report" which lists all of your confirmed girds
on the left side of the pages and has space on the right side for you
to list the new grids you are applying for credit. Without this sheet,
you cannot file for another endorsement via an Awards Manager (card checker)
or by sending them to the League. I know that they have been having
problems with implementing VUCC in LOTW, but the lack of information about
the status of the VUCC Program is troubling. The new website was supposed
to help disseminate information faster but it is not working in the case.
As ARRL members we should be kept informed of the VUCC issues, status and
timelines. This is another great point to discuss with ARRL officials.
Hope to see many of you at the Hamvention.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 15:53:04 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: VUCC Fees - Dayton Hamvention
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "John Papay" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9AC584B3A8304C9EB47612A0C9F5667F@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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If you can't make Dayton, the ARRL National Convention is at Hamcomm this
year in Dallas. I am sure plenty of ARRL officials will be there. Let them
know the inequities with the VUCC fees as well. An email campaign couldn't
hurt either. I have held off applying for 6m and satellite endorsements
until this gets figured out because I can't afford the endorsements at the
current rate.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Papay" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 3:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] VUCC Fees - Dayton Hamvention
> If you are planning on going to Dayton, please take
> some time to visit the ARRL area not far from the AMSAT
> booth. Seek out the highest ranking officials you can find
> and talk with them about the VUCC program and LOTW.
>
> The fee schedule for VUCC applications, both paper and LOTW,
> released back in mid January has not changed to my knowledge.
> Very little has been said about this issue to date. The fees
> were excessive and if continued, would have a negative impact
> on the VUCC program.
>
> You can talk about the high cost of an application but there is
> nothing like comparing it to the cost of a similar DXCC application.
> When you do that, it is apparent that something is not right. I
> prepared a one sheet comparison of three typical VUCC vs DXCC
> applications to give to ARRL officials at the Orlando Hamcation.
> Newington was not present at Orlando but the Florida Director was
> and got a copy. I have uploaded my comparison to my website. Please
> print some copies, put them in your hamfest bag and give them to
> those you talk with at the ARRL. The more League officials that see
> this, the better chance we have of getting these fees reduced and in
> line with DXCC application fees.
>
> Download the comparison at: http://www.papays.com/vuccfees2011.pdf
>
> There are many issues with the VUCC program other than fees. I made
> an application back in mid January, two days after the new few schedule
> appear on arrl.org. It was processed and my totals appeared on my LOTW
> page. Last week I received the endorsement stickers but have yet to
> receive the "VUCC Grid Report" which lists all of your confirmed girds
> on the left side of the pages and has space on the right side for you
> to list the new grids you are applying for credit. Without this sheet,
> you cannot file for another endorsement via an Awards Manager (card
> checker)
> or by sending them to the League. I know that they have been having
> problems with implementing VUCC in LOTW, but the lack of information about
> the status of the VUCC Program is troubling. The new website was supposed
> to help disseminate information faster but it is not working in the case.
> As ARRL members we should be kept informed of the VUCC issues, status and
> timelines. This is another great point to discuss with ARRL officials.
>
> Hope to see many of you at the Hamvention.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 10:57:32 -0500
From: "Keith Pugh" <w5iu@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Demonstration Schedule for Dayton 2011
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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This year with AO-51 and HO-68 on the Sick List and SO-67 scheduled for
Europe and Africa, the schedule will be a little slim for the FM Birds. We
will do the best we can with the Linear Birds and the available FM Birds.
The attached schedule is in UTC and corresponds to the times that the Dayton
Demonstration Area will be staffed. Since this is an outdoor area, we could
have weather problems; however, the "Weather Guessers" are showing a good
weekend so far.
WinAos QTH: -84.3/39.8 T#: 12192 Sat.: 9 [Standard] DAYTON
HAMVENTION
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Day Object AOS (U) LOS Period maxEl AZ Grid EM79ut
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20.05.2011 ISS 12:47 12:56 09 66 237 - 052
Listen Only:
20.05.2011 AO-07 13:34 13:54 20 29 007 - 237 ISS and
HO-68
20.05.2011 VO-52 13:42 13:54 12 30 023 - 169
20.05.2011 SO-67 14:05 14:16 11 49 018 - 183 Europe
Schedule:
20.05.2011 HO-68 14:18 14:35 17 25 029 - 160 SO-67
20.05.2011 ISS 14:23 14:31 08 13 283 - 047
20.05.2011 VO-52 15:19 15:30 11 23 357 - 224 Sick List:
AO-51
20.05.2011 SO-67 15:40 15:48 08 10 345 - 240
20.05.2011 HO-68 16:05 16:24 19 60 011 - 210 Time: UTC
20.05.2011 AO-27 17:10 17:20 10 10 105 - 008
20.05.2011 ISS 17:35 17:43 08 17 318 - 090
20.05.2011 HO-68 17:54 18:07 13 11 355 - 263
20.05.2011 SO-50 18:04 18:17 13 45 194 - 038
20.05.2011 AO-27 18:46 19:01 15 73 162 - 348
20.05.2011 ISS 19:10 19:19 09 57 305 - 134
20.05.2011 AO-51 19:45 19:56 11 14 114 - 005
20.05.2011 SO-50 19:45 19:58 13 22 247 - 025
20.05.2011 AO-27 20:28 20:39 11 11 221 - 324
20.05.2011 FO-29 20:43 21:03 20 56 018 - 181
20.05.2011 AO-07 20:49 21:07 18 18 107 - 355
20.05.2011 AO-51 21:21 21:36 15 73 170 - 346
21.05.2011 AO-07 12:34 12:55 21 63 013 - 211
21.05.2011 ISS 13:11 13:19 08 24 261 - 046
21.05.2011 SO-67 13:47 13:57 10 28 024 - 171
21.05.2011 VO-52 14:00 14:13 13 46 018 - 181
21.05.2011 HO-68 14:01 14:18 17 18 033 - 154
21.05.2011 AO-07 14:28 14:44 16 14 003 - 262
21.05.2011 SO-67 15:21 15:30 09 17 353 - 229
21.05.2011 VO-52 15:37 15:47 10 15 351 - 237
21.05.2011 HO-68 15:48 16:08 20 76 013 - 203
21.05.2011 ISS 16:24 16:31 07 10 319 - 073
21.05.2011 SO-50 16:54 17:04 10 13 160 - 053
21.05.2011 HO-68 17:37 17:52 15 15 359 - 252
21.05.2011 ISS 17:59 18:07 08 35 313 - 111
21.05.2011 AO-27 18:18 18:32 14 44 147 - 354
21.05.2011 SO-50 18:33 18:46 13 65 218 - 031
21.05.2011 ISS 19:34 19:42 08 18 293 - 159
21.05.2011 FO-29 19:49 20:07 18 24 027 - 155
21.05.2011 AO-27 19:59 20:12 13 21 203 - 334
21.05.2011 SO-50 20:16 20:26 10 11 272 - 018
21.05.2011 AO-51 20:42 20:56 14 46 149 - 354
22.05.2011 AO-07 13:27 13:47 20 32 008 - 233
22.05.2011 SO-67 13:29 13:38 09 17 032 - 159
22.05.2011 ISS 13:35 13:43 08 13 284 - 048
22.05.2011 HO-68 13:45 14:00 15 13 037 - 144
22.05.2011 VO-52 14:19 14:31 12 71 013 - 191
22.05.2011 SO-67 15:02 15:12 10 27 358 - 217
22.05.2011 HO-68 15:31 15:51 20 82 016 - 195
I hope to talk to many of you on the "Birds" this weekend.
73 - Keith, W5IU
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 17:01:56 +0100
From: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fm satellite Frequencies and Doppler
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello there.
Would someone be kind enough to give me a list of frequencies with doppler
correction for the Fm birds. I have Ao51 but not heard for a while . Its for
easy programming into my Ht.
Cheers Kev De MM0KJG
73's
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:16:38 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IHU
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Excuse my ignorance (just consider the source, guys ... ) but what is the
"IHU" that's onboard AO-51?
-Internal Heating Unit?
-Receiver section (I Hear U?)
-Temp sensor (It's Hot Underneath)
DREW>> ... the IHU crashes each eclipse ...
Clint Bradford
clintbradford@xxx.xxx
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 09:28:31 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IHU
To: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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YABDM - "Yet Another Bradford DUH! Moment ... " - thanks, gentlemen.
"Internal Housekeeping Unit."
Clint
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 12:59:03 -0400
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Digi @ Dayton?
To: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Bob,
What you say does make sense - I didn't think about the digi congesting the
network since everyone would be within simplex range. My main concern is
that I can get digipeated using the stock duck on the TH-D7A that I will be
using for backpack APRS. If I can't reach any digipeaters in the area, I
need to go to plan B for an antenna.
73!
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Bruninga
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:24 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Digi @ Dayton?
> [does] anyone set up a digipeater at Dayton,
> or do we rely on the local digi?s?
Proper operation of an event like Dayton would suggest that putting up a
digipeater would be the worst thing to do. With over 300+ mobiles and
portables beaconing away all in simplex range of each other, a digipeater
would do nothing but drastically reduce the reliability of the channel by
half or more.
The proper way to handle a ham radio event with a massive influx of APRS
operations is to:
1) Have no digi at the focal point (Hamvention)
2) Have all digis going out 30 miles in all directions be ONE-HOP DIGIS
ONLY. That is, they only respond to WIDE1-1 or WIDE2-2 and nothing else.
They digipeat once and do callsign substitution so the packet goes no
further
3) Strategic IGates are placed right at Hamvention so they hear everything
in simplex range
4) Additional IGates are configured so that every surrounding digi going out
30 miles has an IGate to hear the one-hop packets.
5) Doing all the above, then the hundreds of APRS mobiles and portables do
not have to change anything. They just drive into town with their normal
WIDE1-1,WIDE2-1 settings.
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 13:10:51 -0400
From: Anthony Monteiro <aa2tx@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IHU
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Clint,
IHU = Internal Housekeeping Unit. It means the on-board
computer. I recall the term goes back 30 years to OSCAR-9.
73,
Tony AA2TX
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On 5/16/2011 12:16 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> Excuse my ignorance (just consider the source, guys ... ) but what is the
"IHU" that's onboard AO-51?
>
> -Internal Heating Unit?
> -Receiver section (I Hear U?)
> -Temp sensor (It's Hot Underneath)
>
>
> DREW>> ... the IHU crashes each eclipse ...
>
>
> Clint Bradford
> clintbradford@xxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 19:44:53 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IHU
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001101cc13f0$f6c6bc40$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
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Hi Clint,
"IHU" stands for "Integrated Housekeeping Unit."
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 6:16 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] IHU
> Excuse my ignorance (just consider the source, guys ... ) but what is the
"IHU" that's onboard AO-51?
>
> -Internal Heating Unit?
> -Receiver section (I Hear U?)
> -Temp sensor (It's Hot Underneath)
>
>
> DREW>> ... the IHU crashes each eclipse ...
>
>
> Clint Bradford
> clintbradford@xxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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