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Today's Topics:

   1.  satellite VUCC applications via LOTW
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   2. Re: satellite VUCC applications via LOTW (Ted)
   3. Re: satellite VUCC applications via LOTW (Jeff Yanko)
   4.  AO-51 (Kevin Deane)
   5. Re: AO-51 (Justin Pinnix)
   6. Re: AO-51 (Mark L. Hammond)
   7. HudsonValleySatcomgroupNet Tonight 5/12 At 8 PM EDT ON
      Echolink N2EYH-L (Cotejaune2@xxx.xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 15:16:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  satellite VUCC applications via LOTW
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <215246.8750.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi!

Back in February, shortly after ARRL announced that the VUCC award
would be supported in Logbook of the World, I uploaded my satellite
QSOs to that system.  I have since added other non-satellite QSOs,
and have uploaded subsequent satellite QSOs (including the QSOs from
the Sierra Vista AZ hamfest and my operating from the DM51/DM52 grid
boundary last Saturday).  On 8 February, I filed an application
for a satellite VUCC award using the 103 grids I had credit for in
LOTW.  After 3 months and lots of face-to-face chats with my ARRL
section manager and division director, along with e-mails to the LOTW
help desk and other e-mails copied to several in the ARRL hierarchy,
my VUCC application was cancelled yesterday.

There have been problems in the migration of the VUCC award into the
LOTW system, and my application was apparently a victim of those
problems.  Thankfully, the credit card I submitted with the application
had not been charged - probably the only thing ARRL did right in the
past 3 months with that (not charging it until the application was
processed).  I don't know the reason(s) why my application was
cancelled, even after additional e-mails yesterday asking for more
information.  I was told that I could resubmit my VUCC application,
now that the original application was cancelled.

In the past 3 months, my grid count in LOTW went up 10, to 113.  I
filed my application, and waited.  This time, the application was
approved in 24 hours!  When I log into LOTW now, I see that I have
been awarded a satellite VUCC.  Other than seeing what gets charged
to my credit card for the new application, ensuring there is no charge
for the cancelled application and getting the certificate in the
mailbox, this is the way things should work when an application is
filed through LOTW.  The fees are another matter, but at least the
process of getting a VUCC through LOTW appears to be finally working.

Thanks to all of those who have been uploading satellite QSOs to the
LOTW system.  Many - like me - started in the last few months since
the announcement that VUCC would be supported in LOTW.  A few have
been uploading satellite QSOs over the past few years.  I'll wait
and see if ARRL revisits the matter of the VUCC fees before I apply
for an endorsement to my satellite VUCC (I have over 300 more grids
I could add to it, using QSL cards), but for now I have a VUCC coming
my way.  I will continue uploading my satellite QSOs to LOTW, for
those who want to use that to apply for or endorse a satellite VUCC.

I know I could have applied for a satellite VUCC with QSL cards
as far back as late 2006.  I know I had accumulated enough cards for
a VUCC back then.  I put it off, thinking "Why not wait until I have
125?"  Then 150, 175, 200, and so on into the 300s.  Around the 350
mark, I decided to wait until I reached 400.  By this point, it was
about the time ARRL made its announcement about VUCC in LOTW along
with the new fee structure.  I decided to try the on-line application,
instead of having to buy dinner for my local card checker as he went
through my cards (especially if I filed the application with all the
grids I have confirmed).  I may still be on the hook for a lunch or
dinner, if I write out an application to endorse my VUCC in the
future.  :-)

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 16:30:36 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite VUCC applications via LOTW
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A78480D5F1C3425EB6C0458C068B1F6F@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Well, first of all, congratulations are in order !!

I still have issues with LoTW as to satellite contacts and the VUCC. I still
DO NOT see where I am getting credit for multiple contacts (different grids)
with you and other stations that roam. LoTW is only giving 1 credit for the
other station, despite different grids. Asking them about it is, of course
an exercise in futility !!

Anyway, congratulations to Patrick

73, Ted, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:17 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite VUCC applications via LOTW

Hi!

Back in February, shortly after ARRL announced that the VUCC award
would be supported in Logbook of the World, I uploaded my satellite
QSOs to that system.  I have since added other non-satellite QSOs,
and have uploaded subsequent satellite QSOs (including the QSOs from
the Sierra Vista AZ hamfest and my operating from the DM51/DM52 grid
boundary last Saturday).  On 8 February, I filed an application
for a satellite VUCC award using the 103 grids I had credit for in
LOTW.  After 3 months and lots of face-to-face chats with my ARRL
section manager and division director, along with e-mails to the LOTW
help desk and other e-mails copied to several in the ARRL hierarchy,
my VUCC application was cancelled yesterday.

There have been problems in the migration of the VUCC award into the
LOTW system, and my application was apparently a victim of those
problems.  Thankfully, the credit card I submitted with the application
had not been charged - probably the only thing ARRL did right in the
past 3 months with that (not charging it until the application was
processed).  I don't know the reason(s) why my application was
cancelled, even after additional e-mails yesterday asking for more
information.  I was told that I could resubmit my VUCC application,
now that the original application was cancelled.

In the past 3 months, my grid count in LOTW went up 10, to 113.  I
filed my application, and waited.  This time, the application was
approved in 24 hours!  When I log into LOTW now, I see that I have
been awarded a satellite VUCC.  Other than seeing what gets charged
to my credit card for the new application, ensuring there is no charge
for the cancelled application and getting the certificate in the
mailbox, this is the way things should work when an application is
filed through LOTW.  The fees are another matter, but at least the
process of getting a VUCC through LOTW appears to be finally working.

Thanks to all of those who have been uploading satellite QSOs to the
LOTW system.  Many - like me - started in the last few months since
the announcement that VUCC would be supported in LOTW.  A few have
been uploading satellite QSOs over the past few years.  I'll wait
and see if ARRL revisits the matter of the VUCC fees before I apply
for an endorsement to my satellite VUCC (I have over 300 more grids
I could add to it, using QSL cards), but for now I have a VUCC coming
my way.  I will continue uploading my satellite QSOs to LOTW, for
those who want to use that to apply for or endorse a satellite VUCC.

I know I could have applied for a satellite VUCC with QSL cards
as far back as late 2006.  I know I had accumulated enough cards for
a VUCC back then.  I put it off, thinking "Why not wait until I have
125?"  Then 150, 175, 200, and so on into the 300s.  Around the 350
mark, I decided to wait until I reached 400.  By this point, it was
about the time ARRL made its announcement about VUCC in LOTW along
with the new fee structure.  I decided to try the on-line application,
instead of having to buy dinner for my local card checker as he went
through my cards (especially if I filed the application with all the
grids I have confirmed).  I may still be on the hook for a lunch or
dinner, if I write out an application to endorse my VUCC in the
future.  :-)

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 11 May 2011 17:43:13 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satellite VUCC applications via LOTW
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <AB63BDD9289A453184EC848FDD2F5632@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi Patrick and the group!

I think they are having problems all around with their LoTW and awards
programs.  I had the local card checker process my cards for VUCC on January
24, 2011 and as of May 11, 2011, I've yet to receive my award.  I'd
contacted the award desk at ARRL and was told about the integration of the
system, no mention of any problems, and to give it a couple more months.
I'm going to wait until the end of the month of May and see what's going on.
If I don't receive anything by the end of June I'm going to contact them
again and request they refund my money or send me the award....immediately.

LoTW is a great concept and saves a ton of money and time.  However, I get
the feeling that this program was not professionally layed out, implemented
nor maintained by even the lowest standards.  If they can't get their act
together on developing a simple system to track confirmations of countries,
states and grids for the enjoyment of it's membership, I would suggest
abandoning it before it becomes the poster child for incompetent failure.



73,


Jeff  WB3JFS
Las Vegas, NV
DM26





----- Original Message -----
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 3:16 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite VUCC applications via LOTW


> Hi!
>
> Back in February, shortly after ARRL announced that the VUCC award
> would be supported in Logbook of the World, I uploaded my satellite
> QSOs to that system.  I have since added other non-satellite QSOs,
> and have uploaded subsequent satellite QSOs (including the QSOs from
> the Sierra Vista AZ hamfest and my operating from the DM51/DM52 grid
> boundary last Saturday).  On 8 February, I filed an application
> for a satellite VUCC award using the 103 grids I had credit for in
> LOTW.  After 3 months and lots of face-to-face chats with my ARRL
> section manager and division director, along with e-mails to the LOTW
> help desk and other e-mails copied to several in the ARRL hierarchy,
> my VUCC application was cancelled yesterday.
>
> There have been problems in the migration of the VUCC award into the
> LOTW system, and my application was apparently a victim of those
> problems.  Thankfully, the credit card I submitted with the application
> had not been charged - probably the only thing ARRL did right in the
> past 3 months with that (not charging it until the application was
> processed).  I don't know the reason(s) why my application was
> cancelled, even after additional e-mails yesterday asking for more
> information.  I was told that I could resubmit my VUCC application,
> now that the original application was cancelled.
>
> In the past 3 months, my grid count in LOTW went up 10, to 113.  I
> filed my application, and waited.  This time, the application was
> approved in 24 hours!  When I log into LOTW now, I see that I have
> been awarded a satellite VUCC.  Other than seeing what gets charged
> to my credit card for the new application, ensuring there is no charge
> for the cancelled application and getting the certificate in the
> mailbox, this is the way things should work when an application is
> filed through LOTW.  The fees are another matter, but at least the
> process of getting a VUCC through LOTW appears to be finally working.
>
> Thanks to all of those who have been uploading satellite QSOs to the
> LOTW system.  Many - like me - started in the last few months since
> the announcement that VUCC would be supported in LOTW.  A few have
> been uploading satellite QSOs over the past few years.  I'll wait
> and see if ARRL revisits the matter of the VUCC fees before I apply
> for an endorsement to my satellite VUCC (I have over 300 more grids
> I could add to it, using QSL cards), but for now I have a VUCC coming
> my way.  I will continue uploading my satellite QSOs to LOTW, for
> those who want to use that to apply for or endorse a satellite VUCC.
>
> I know I could have applied for a satellite VUCC with QSL cards
> as far back as late 2006.  I know I had accumulated enough cards for
> a VUCC back then.  I put it off, thinking "Why not wait until I have
> 125?"  Then 150, 175, 200, and so on into the 300s.  Around the 350
> mark, I decided to wait until I reached 400.  By this point, it was
> about the time ARRL made its announcement about VUCC in LOTW along
> with the new fee structure.  I decided to try the on-line application,
> instead of having to buy dinner for my local card checker as he went
> through my cards (especially if I filed the application with all the
> grids I have confirmed).  I may still be on the hook for a lunch or
> dinner, if I write out an application to endorse my VUCC in the
> future.  :-)
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 00:08:54 -0700
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL107-W295852A6F0D19602D57EC783890@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"



I got to talk on the AO-51 today was pretty neat! Sorry for my bad
performance, I was using the Elk, handheld for the first time and probably
should not practice on that bird. I dont know how you guys do it, my arm was
all getting tired, gotta be a better way to do that. Camera tripod or
something?

Also I was receiving it on the western pass, but there was no one there.
Unless I was picking up something else on that frequency...Is it on all the
time now? Will it be on this morning? I thought you guys were turning it on
and off?

Anyway, thanks to all who do the work, something about talking on the
satellite's, I love it every time!

Kevin
KF7MYK
  		 	   		

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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:07:16 -0400
From: Justin Pinnix <justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51
To: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTimO1XY+m28-zo8Txa3JUE-n4=wDsg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Kevin,

Congrats on your first contacts!

I built a handle for the Elk out of PVC pipe.  It's long enough (about 4
feet) so that I can rest one end of it on my hip to carry most of the
weight.  The passes are only 10 minutes or so, so my arm doesn't get too
tired with the rest of the weight.  I call it my 3-axis Armstrong rotor :-)
AO-51 has been having some issues lately, so you'll want to also try out
AO-27 and SO-50.  Just remember that if you don't hear other stations then
either your receive freq is wrong, volume is turned down, antenna is pointed
the wrong way, radio is in the wrong mode, or the satellite isn't
operating.  In any of those cases, transmitting will either cause QRM or be
fruitless :-)

73 de AJ4MJ

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
>
> I got to talk on the AO-51 today was pretty neat! Sorry for my bad
> performance, I was using the Elk, handheld for the first time and probably
> should not practice on that bird. I dont know how you guys do it, my arm was
> all getting tired, gotta be a better way to do that. Camera tripod or
> something?
>
> Also I was receiving it on the western pass, but there was no one there.
> Unless I was picking up something else on that frequency...Is it on all the
> time now? Will it be on this morning? I thought you guys were turning it on
> and off?
>
> Anyway, thanks to all who do the work, something about talking on the
> satellite's, I love it every time!
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 08:52:09 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51
To: Justin Pinnix <justin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Kevin Deane
<summit496@xxxx.xxx>,	amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <icsE1g00F56cfur05csEUB@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 08:07 AM 5/12/2011 -0400, Justin Pinnix wrote:
>Kevin,
>
>Congrats on your first contacts!
>
>I built a handle for the Elk out of PVC pipe.  It's long enough (about 4
>feet) so that I can rest one end of it on my hip to carry most of the
>weight.  The passes are only 10 minutes or so, so my arm doesn't get too
>tired with the rest of the weight.  I call it my 3-axis Armstrong rotor :-)

This is exactly what I do!  It works well and keeps things reasonable for a
pass.  The peice I use might be a tad shorter, but same principle...rest it
on hip.

73,

Mark N8MH




>AO-51 has been having some issues lately, so you'll want to also try out
>AO-27 and SO-50.  Just remember that if you don't hear other stations then
>either your receive freq is wrong, volume is turned down, antenna is pointed
>the wrong way, radio is in the wrong mode, or the satellite isn't
>operating.  In any of those cases, transmitting will either cause QRM or be
>fruitless :-)
>
>73 de AJ4MJ
>
>On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I got to talk on the AO-51 today was pretty neat! Sorry for my bad
>> performance, I was using the Elk, handheld for the first time and probably
>> should not practice on that bird. I dont know how you guys do it, my arm
was
>> all getting tired, gotta be a better way to do that. Camera tripod or
>> something?
>>
>> Also I was receiving it on the western pass, but there was no one there.
>> Unless I was picking up something else on that frequency...Is it on all the
>> time now? Will it be on this morning? I thought you guys were turning it on
>> and off?
>>
>> Anyway, thanks to all who do the work, something about talking on the
>> satellite's, I love it every time!
>>
>> Kevin
>> KF7MYK
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 12 May 2011 10:02:46 EDT
From: Cotejaune2@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HudsonValleySatcomgroupNet Tonight 5/12 At 8 PM
EDT ON	Echolink N2EYH-L
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <3ab.5f533529.3afd4286@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Please join us tonight for the Net.Hope to hear you there.73 Gary
WA2AQH.The
echolink connection is only on for the net.


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