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Today's Topics:

   1.  AO-51 Data (Clint Bradford)
   2. Re: AO-51 Data (Mark L. Hammond)
   3.  AO-51 Monitoring .. (Bruce Semple)
   4. Re: AO-51 Data (Alan P. Biddle)
   5. Re: AO-51 Data (Clint Bradford)
   6. Investigation over the IC 9100 for the existence of	"birdies"
      (i8cvs)
   7. Re: AO-51 Data (Edward R. Cole)
   8.  AO-51 Over West Coast (Clint Bradford)
   9. Re: AO-51 Monitoring .. (Mark L. Hammond)
  10.  Portable Sat Antennas (JHBRTOO@xxx.xxxx
  11. Re: AO-51 Data (i8cvs)
  12.  AO-51, on old friend. (Alan P. Biddle)
  13. Re: AO-51, on old friend. (John Geiger)
  14. Re: AO-51, on old friend. (Zachary Beougher)
  15.  ISS orbit reboosted (Alan P. Biddle)
  16.  AO-51 - Requiem (Clint Bradford)
  17. Re: ISS orbit reboosted (Rick Tejera)
  18.  So 67 (kf1buz@xxxxx.xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 13:21:02 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 Data
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <17B9B05D-D3DC-49AB-957E-922F6A921C61@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>> ... If you have 9k6 digital capability, you can listen in on our attempts
at recovery on 435.150 on many passes over the US. ...

I am packet-illiterate. But HRO locally does not have the Yaesu mic cable in
stock to interface any of the West Mountain RigBlaster products I could
purchase for my Yaesu FT-8800.

How else can I attempt to monitor this? HRO is open four more hours today ...

Clint, K6LCS
909-241-7666


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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 17:04:57 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <BANLkTiktcRQVxfY2cdPn3JeJH7z4spqYFg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Clint,

I'm not sure I'd spend any money in order to maybe happen to catch a
handful of packets ACKS from the satellite....probably not worth it.
You can probably get away with running the 9k6 packet line out of the
radio straight into a computer sound card and using something like
MixW or AWGPacketEngine to decode.  Heck, Douglas Quagliana has done
an article (or two) in the AMSAT Journal about his 9k6 software
decoder.

73,

Mark N8MH

On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Clint Bradford
<clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> ... If you have 9k6 digital capability, you can listen in on our
attempts at recovery on 435.150 on many passes over the US. ...
>
> I am packet-illiterate. But HRO locally does not have the Yaesu mic cable
in stock to interface any of the West Mountain RigBlaster products I could
purchase for my Yaesu FT-8800.
>
> How else can I attempt to monitor this? HRO is open four more hours today
...
>
> Clint, K6LCS
> 909-241-7666
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--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:10:24 -0400
From: Bruce Semple <bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 Monitoring ..
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <0LKS00GRZLHOMH00@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed


Listening in on the 05/06/2011 - 2250Z     435.150   with 9.6K capability --
Nothing "heard" -- no carrier detected ..

probably not a good sign -

WA3SWJ



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 16:13:07 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8781D428F20B47C4BB8476F5F391D4C6@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Clint,

You can't monitor 9600 baud through the normal audio channels.  They do not
have enough bandwidth, and have too much filtering.  Many rigs do have
dedicated I/O for the purpose.  Likewise, standard packet/PSK31 interfaces
will also fail due to lack of bandwidth.  You will either need one of the
hardware TNCs which do have 9600 baud capability, or you can work with
programs like MixW which support it.  In either case, you will need direct
connections rather than the usual audio transformers.  If you don't have the
existing capability, it might not be cost/time effective.  Sigh.

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 3:21 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 Data

>> ... If you have 9k6 digital capability, you can listen in on our attempts
at recovery on 435.150 on many passes over the US. ...

I am packet-illiterate. But HRO locally does not have the Yaesu mic cable in
stock to interface any of the West Mountain RigBlaster products I could
purchase for my Yaesu FT-8800.

How else can I attempt to monitor this? HRO is open four more hours today
...

Clint, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 14:50:15 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D7FEF0E2-5572-40CA-98FD-0DFCF112E903@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

>> ... you can't ... shouldn't ... don't go out any buy anything just for
this ...

Heavy sigh.

It's just that this has been such a good friend ...

Guess I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Pina Coladas.

Long live AO-51. I have a 67 degree elevation pass coming up in 30 mins ...

Clint, K6LCS


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 01:01:16 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Investigation over the IC 9100 for the existence
of	"birdies"
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004801cc0c41$8180a100$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="Windows-1252"

Hi All,

I would like to know is someone on the list has already tested the
new all mode IC 9100 to verify the existance or not of "birdies"
into the VHF/UHF/SHF bands.

The specifications of the IC 9100 says that the spurious signals are
suppressed  by more then 70 dB from HF to 50 MHz and by more
then 60 dB from 144 to 440 MHz

Tanks for any report.

73" de

i8CVS Domenico



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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 15:38:26 -0800
From: "Edward R. Cole" <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <201105062338.p46NcQ0w032021@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Perhaps the result will be more activity on AO-7, VO-52, FO-29 using
SSB?  Looks like I am getting my satellite array working just in time
to miss AO-51?  Be nice to see HO-68 again.

Hearing of Fox, when is it planned for orbit?  P3E?  any other
lurkers about jump up into space?  oooh well,there is always Oscar-Zero ;-)

73, Ed

At 01:50 PM 5/6/2011, Clint Bradford wrote:
> >> ... you can't ... shouldn't ... don't go out any buy anything
> just for this ...
>
>Heavy sigh.
>
>It's just that this has been such a good friend ...
>
>Guess I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Pina Coladas.
>
>Long live AO-51. I have a 67 degree elevation pass coming up in 30 mins ...
>
>Clint, K6LCS
>_______________________________________________
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73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45
======================================
BP40IQ   500 KHz - 10-GHz   www.kl7uw.com
EME: 50-1.1kW?, 144-1.4kw, 432-100w, 1296-testing*, 3400-?
DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubususa@xxxxxxx.xxx
======================================


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 17:15:01 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 Over West Coast
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1D249BBF-8A50-4EF6-974B-6DFD72102897@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

Was anything attempted that normally would have been heard on 435.150 just
now (5PM PDT)?

Nothing was heard ... It is scary being so attached to an inanimate object
that I have never been any closer than 500 miles.

Clint


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 20:25:17 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Monitoring ..
To: Bruce Semple <bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <gQRL1g00C56cfur05QRL8W@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Bruce,

That simply means nobody was around to command the satellite ON.  The
435.150 transmitter will be on infrequently, and it will be off most of the
time.  Based on history and command station "real life" schedules, is likely
that the east US coast will hear some activity in the early morning hours,
while the west US coast might be more likely to hear activity in the
afternoons.

So--you can expect it to be off most of the time.

73,

Mark N8MH

At 05:10 PM 5/6/2011 -0400, Bruce Semple wrote:

>Listening in on the 05/06/2011 - 2250Z     435.150   with 9.6K capability --
>Nothing "heard" -- no carrier detected ..
>
>probably not a good sign -
>
>WA3SWJ
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 6 May 2011 23:57:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: JHBRTOO@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Portable Sat Antennas
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <2fd92.635e643b.3af61d44@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

My two cents worth-- I like the ELK for portable operation first because it
 lays flat in the trunk and it is a single feed line antenna (although the
front line is unusual) I do use an Arrow also with two feed lines to a
Combiner/Duplexer/Diplexer/ Whatever mainly or when I use two rigs for 
CW/SSB.
I think both antennas are
very comparable operationally, the ELK being a little easier to haul
around. Nuf Said bout that
Thanks to all for your info on many subjects-- hams helping hams.
Dave WA6EKR

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 11:59:12 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, "AMSAT like I am getting my satellite array working just in time
> to miss AO-51?  Be nice to see HO-68 again.
>
> Hearing of Fox, when is it planned for orbit?  P3E?  any other
> lurkers about jump up into space?  oooh well,there is always Oscar-Zero
;-)
>
> 73, Ed

Hi Ed, KL7UW

I don't think that after the trouble on AO-51 there will be more activity on
AO-7, VO-52 , and FO-29 using CW and SSB because since 2004 when
AO-51 was operational a lot of Hams invested a lot of money to buy FM
hend held equipments, Arrow antennas and ELK antennas to work grids
and make FM satellite demonstrations as well to work the ISS showing
satellite operation in the schools so that actually the most part of them is
not equipped for linear transponders.

If AO-51 will be in trouble for a long time and if a similar satellite will
not replace it than a lot of money all around the world has been invested
in FM equipment for very small.

For the FM satellite users the actual situation with AO-51 out of service is
similar to our actual SSB and CW  situation after the death of AO40 about
8 years ago because actually we have only three linear satellites available
after having invested a lot of  money for SSB and CW equipments and
antennas for 144 -435-1268-2400 MHz and 24 GHz

By the way since I am equipped for linear transponders I am pulling for P3E
because this satellite is almost completely built in the University of
Marburg waiting for a launch opportunity in the future even if we don't know
when so that in the mean time I work VO-52, FO-29 and AO-7

The situation for the linear satellite users is very bad as well because
HO-68 was only activated for a limited numbar of orbits that were not
very suitable for most locations and actually it is not scheduled for us by
Alan Kung.

I don't have any information about the Fox project but I remember that few
years ago in 2004 AMSAT-NA had a project for the EAGLE satellite in
HEO orbit

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/eagle/Eagle_Fall_2004.php

but apparently it seems that this project has been abandoned........Sorry !

You are right because there is always Oscar-Zero but actually EME is
very different from that EME of the early years 1970 so that personally
I found not too much challenge to work EME in digital mode.

Ed , It is a real shame! I wanted a HEO so bad! (American slang - hi).
Take care my friend and God Bless

73" de

i8CVS Domenico



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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 08:07:14 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51, on old friend.
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>,	"'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A3D99CFB6E2341708A6FCD1ACDCCA7AF@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Clint,

AO-51 has been in many ways like a faithful old dog.  Almost always  eventually we find a frisky
new furry friend whom we learn to love, and eventually regard their quirks
with affection, if not exactly delight.  So it is with satellites.  The Fox
Project is getting into high gear, with a laundry list of lessons learned
going into the engineering blender.  Much like laws and sausage, the process
is messy, but out will come a new, challenging satellite.  We even have a
new Fox PayPal contribution button on the AMSAT Fox page for you to
exercise.  ;)  So lets remember AO-51 with affection, but look forward to
the future.  There is room there for LEO, MEO, HEO, and GSO.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:50 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data

>> ... you can't ... shouldn't ... don't go out any buy anything just for
this ...

Heavy sigh.

It's just that this has been such a good friend ...

Guess I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Pina Coladas.

Long live AO-51. I have a 67 degree elevation pass coming up in 30 mins ...

Clint, K6LCS
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---- is still there when you need it, and has been around for
longer and is still doing nicely.  SO67 is nice also when it is turned on
over your area, so there are still FM options.

73s John AA5JG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>; "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51, on old friend.


> Clint,
>
> AO-51 has been in many ways like a faithful old dog.  Almost always there,
> and one you can trust with the kids.  Every now and then it runs off for a
> few days, starts yapping and bothers the neighbors, or makes a mess on the
> rug.  Still, just when you start to get annoyed, it gives you a big, wet
> kiss and all is forgiven. Sadly Dog Years and Satellite Years are about
> the
> same, and AO-51 is getting along. Others have lived longer, such as SO-50,
> and of course the magical AO-7, but few have given so much pleasure to so
> many with such simple equipment.  Heck, even the critics have enjoyed
> grousing about "Gridsats."  I know I have.  ;)
>
> When we finally lose an old dog, we mourn, but eventually we find a frisky
> new furry friend whom we learn to love, and eventually regard their quirks
> with affection, if not exactly delight.  So it is with satellites.  The
> Fox
> Project is getting into high gear, with a laundry list of lessons learned
> going into the engineering blender.  Much like laws and sausage, the
> process
> is messy, but out will come a new, challenging satellite.  We even have a
> new Fox PayPal contribution button on the AMSAT Fox page for you to
> exercise.  ;)  So lets remember AO-51 with affection, but look forward to
> the future.  There is room there for LEO, MEO, HEO, and GSO.
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Clint Bradford
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:50 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
>
>>> ... you can't ... shouldn't ... don't go out any buy anything just for
> this ...
>
> Heavy sigh.
>
> It's just that this has been such a good friend ...
>
> Guess I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Pina Coladas.
>
> Long live AO-51. I have a 67 degree elevation pass coming up in 30 mins
> ...
>
> Clint, K6LCS
> _______________________________________________
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>
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Zack
KD8KSN

-----Original Message-----
From: John Geiger
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 9:28 AM
To: APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx ; 'Clint Bradford' ; 'AMSAT BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51, on old friend.

Fortunately AO27 is still there when you need it, and has been around for
longer and is still doing nicely.  SO67 is nice also when it is turned on
over your area, so there are still FM options.

73s John AA5JG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>; "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2011 1:07 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51, on old friend.


> Clint,
>
> AO-51 has been in many ways like a faithful old dog.  Almost always there,
> and one you can trust with the kids.  Every now and then it runs off for a
> few days, starts yapping and bothers the neighbors, or makes a mess on the
> rug.  Still, just when you start to get annoyed, it gives you a big, wet
> kiss and all is forgiven. Sadly Dog Years and Satellite Years are about
> the
> same, and AO-51 is getting along. Others have lived longer, such as SO-50,
> and of course the magical AO-7, but few have given so much pleasure to so
> many with such simple equipment.  Heck, even the critics have enjoyed
> grousing about "Gridsats."  I know I have.  ;)
>
> When we finally lose an old dog, we mourn, but eventually we find a frisky
> new furry friend whom we learn to love, and eventually regard their quirks
> with affection, if not exactly delight.  So it is with satellites.  The
> Fox
> Project is getting into high gear, with a laundry list of lessons learned
> going into the engineering blender.  Much like laws and sausage, the
> process
> is messy, but out will come a new, challenging satellite.  We even have a
> new Fox PayPal contribution button on the AMSAT Fox page for you to
> exercise.  ;)  So lets remember AO-51 with affection, but look forward to
> the future.  There is room there for LEO, MEO, HEO, and GSO.
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Clint Bradford
> Sent: Friday, May 06, 2011 4:50 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Data
>
>>> ... you can't ... shouldn't ... don't go out any buy anything just for
> this ...
>
> Heavy sigh.
>
> It's just that this has been such a good friend ...
>
> Guess I picked the wrong week to stop drinking Pina Coladas.
>
> Long live AO-51. I have a 67 degree elevation pass coming up in 30 mins
> ...
>
> Clint, K6LCS
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 09:56:02 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ISS orbit reboosted
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <C1FB1868F1A54C4A9291DF86F7BDDE71@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

According to various sources, the ISS orbit was raised 1 km Thursday.  This
will result in a "slippage" of the old Kep's predictions of about 20 seconds
per day.  So make certain your Keps are up to date.  The Celestrak updates
used by most tracking programs look good.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA





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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 07 May 2011 08:26:54 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 - Requiem
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7F5633CE-EF01-4C0B-9292-951B1B0A1557@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

>> ... because since 2004 when AO-51 was operational a lot of Hams invested
a lot of money to buy FM
hand held equipments, Arrow antennas and ELK antennas to work ...

Huh? 2004 was the year the Yaesu FT-60R was released. For under $200. The
Kenwood TH-D7 was
available - always a battery hog, but expensive due to its TNC/APRS
capabilities.

To say that we blew our collective wads on "hand held equipment" for working
FM birds doesn't make
sense to me. And I was working at the US' largest ham radio equipment dealer
then: that phenomenon
did not occur.

>> ... if AO-51 will be in trouble for a long time and if a similar
satellite will
not replace it than a lot of money all around the world has been invested
in FM equipment for very small ...

The equipment purchased to work the FM sats covers the two most popular
voice bands in the
US, if not the planet. There's no "handheld equipment" that is exclusively
made for sat work.

>> ... The situation for the linear satellite users is very bad as well
because
HO-68 was only activated for a limited numbar of orbits ...

I do not understand why some folks are so hot for '68. Its primary mission
was never going to
be "amateur radio." It is run by the Chinese, who could really care less
about what we would like
to see happen with it. (Sorry, my wife has been to Tibet three times in _______________
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 7 May 2011 15:34:09 +0000
From: kf1buz@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  So 67
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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We are doing a special event in reno
Will try to hit the next pass
W7ecw emcomm west call
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry


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