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Today's Topics:
1. Echo Madness (Ron Settle)
2. Preamp Distance from Antenna (Zachary Beougher)
3. Re: Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
(n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Preamp Distance from Antenna (Dee)
5. Re: Preamp Distance from Antenna (Zachary Beougher)
6. Re: Echo Madness (Dee)
7. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
8. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
9. FT-60R and recording? (Ted)
10. Re: Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin (Clint Bradford)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 17:01:00 -0500
From: "Ron Settle" <settleron@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Echo Madness
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Having been on the bird on the night the recording was made (yes you can
hear my feeble call sign in there a couple of times) I have to say, it was
no worse than 40 meters earlier in the day with the WPX SSB contest going
on. The whistles were a bit over the top.
I am new to the satellites ( 3 successful passes ) so I am just learning the
etiquette and procedures.
It has been interesting over the past few weeks putting the station together
to be able to get into the satellite. I have learned quite a bit already.
The first thing I learned was that I didn't know anything about how to
communicate on the satellites!!! ;-)
I have enjoyed the few contacts I have made and look forward to more. I
appreciate any and all assistance in the endeavor!!
Thanks
Ron
KK7Z
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:24:22 -0400
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp Distance from Antenna
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT111-DS61EBDB1D45607836B172CB3BC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hi,
I am in the process of getting the ARR SP432VDG preamp for my mobile setup
(and just to have around), and I have read that the closer to antenna you
mount the preamp, the lower noise figure you will have. My question is,
what is close to the antenna ? 1ft., 5ft., 10ft.? Ideally, I would probably
mount it about 5-6ft. from the antenna (1/4 wave) ? would this be acceptable?
Any additional advice would be appreciated!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:40:10 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
To: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <wa5au@xxxxx.xxx>,
"AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ARISS-ops OPS <ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9018C63877704772B4E15A48DF7F8B63@xxx>
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reply-type=original
Just viewed the video clip Clint. Very nice to see these events come
together so well.
Dave, AA4KN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <wa5au@xxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "ARISS-ops OPS" <ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:30 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
> Fox News covers Lehman event ...
>
> http://tinyurl.com/iss-lehman
>
> -or-
>
>
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/Lehman-HS-Students-Tal-to-Astronaut
s-20110329-ktbcw
>
> Clint, K6LCS
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:53:32 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Preamp Distance from Antenna
To: "'Zachary Beougher'" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <152AA468C4294BC0801ADF82976E745B@xxxxxxxx>
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Why do you need a preamp in the mobile? Most new rigs are great at
sensitivity. You must also remember that if you are mobile, Intermod is
just around the corner at these high sensitivity preamps.
Preamps, as a rule, should be as close to the antenna as mechanically
possible.
Good Luck,
73,
Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:24 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp Distance from Antenna
Hi,
I am in the process of getting the ARR SP432VDG preamp for my mobile setup
(and just to have around), and I have read that the closer to antenna you
mount the preamp, the lower noise figure you will have. My question is,
what is close to the antenna - 1ft., 5ft., 10ft.? Ideally, I would probably
mount it about 5-6ft. from the antenna (1/4 wave) - would this be
acceptable?
Any additional advice would be appreciated!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:06:11 -0400
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Preamp Distance from Antenna
To: "Dee" <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT111-DS2B888FD6CB92686C0318CB3BC0@xxx.xxx>
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Hi Dee,
I have tried monitoring passes with the FTM-350AR, and it is just about
impossible to hear anything. Granted, I was using a 5/8 wave, but I have
used a 1/4 wave several times before with a different radio and experienced
similar results. I will probably try it again just to make sure, but I
would still like to get something to take the edge off and increase my
hearing time a bit.
I know a few of you here have used the ARR preamps in your mobile (or while
mobile) setups - does anyone have issues with intermod?
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message-----
From: Dee
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:53 AM
To: 'Zachary Beougher'
Cc: Amsat BB
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Preamp Distance from Antenna
Why do you need a preamp in the mobile? Most new rigs are great at
sensitivity. You must also remember that if you are mobile, Intermod is
just around the corner at these high sensitivity preamps.
Preamps, as a rule, should be as close to the antenna as mechanically
possible.
Good Luck,
73,
Dee, NB2F
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:24 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamp Distance from Antenna
Hi,
I am in the process of getting the ARR SP432VDG preamp for my mobile setup
(and just to have around), and I have read that the closer to antenna you
mount the preamp, the lower noise figure you will have. My question is,
what is close to the antenna - 1ft., 5ft., 10ft.? Ideally, I would probably
mount it about 5-6ft. from the antenna (1/4 wave) - would this be
acceptable?
Any additional advice would be appreciated!
Zack
KD8KSN
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:06:06 -0400
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Echo Madness
To: "'Ron Settle'" <settleron@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <592ED34A6C42487B8612010D4AF7264C@xxxxxxxx>
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Drew,
Isn't it wonderful that the AO-51 committee responds as well as it does and
STILL gets it's lumps? I read some of the threads and all I can say is
"HUH?"
73,
Dee, NB2F
Keep up the good work while fighting those sharks off with the other
hand....
Subject: [amsat-bb] Echo Madness
Having been on the bird on the night the recording was made (yes you can
hear my feeble call sign in there a couple of times) I have to say, it was
no worse than 40 meters earlier in the day with the WPX SSB contest going
on. The whistles were a bit over the top.
I am new to the satellites ( 3 successful passes ) so I am just learning the
etiquette and procedures.
It has been interesting over the past few weeks putting the station together
to be able to get into the satellite. I have learned quite a bit already.
The first thing I learned was that I didn't know anything about how to
communicate on the satellites!!! ;-)
I have enjoyed the few contacts I have made and look forward to more. I
appreciate any and all assistance in the endeavor!!
Thanks
Ron
KK7Z
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 10:44:58 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110330104132.00be6440@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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At 12:22 AM 3/30/2011 +0000, you wrote:
> There is only ONE WAY to stop the mess on AO51. Turn it off and let
> Drew turn it on when he wants to make a sked with someone .
LOL, Now that was funny. Made my morning. :-)
Sorry you missed getting the contact though.
73
KB7ADL
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:12:04 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Bruce!
> There really is no solution to a satellite that uses a particular uplink
> frequency to keep those that use the simplex frequency or are actually
> trying to make a satellite contact and use poor operating practices.
> <snip>
>
> Satellites are no different from rare DX, everyone wants a piece of it
> and they want it now. As we are trying to get more and more hams
> interested in the satellites, we are going to simply have more trying to
> use the same space. One solution is for the experienced satellite
> operators to move from the single channel FM satellites over to the SSB
> birds.
I generally agree with you on these points, but not completely on the point
that experienced operators should move off the FM birds to the SSB birds.
If all the experienced operators move off the FM birds, who would be left
to help the inexperienced operators?
I've heard more activity on the SSB birds lately, probably due to ND9M/MM
sailing around and working those passes along with the FM passes. The
increased SSB activity helped me on Saturday at the hamfest in Tucson AZ
followed by my post-hamfest drive through DM52/DM53 on my way home.
Three of the 4 demonstration passes at the hamfest were in SSB (2 on AO-7,
one on VO-52). Later in the day, there were active FO-29 passes where I
was able to make 9 QSOs on the first pass (including ND9M/MM), and 5 more
on the later pass to the west.
Going to a comment by WA4HFN yesterday... If there was a problem on AO-51
that required the immediate attention from a command station, by all means do
what is necessary to keep the satellite in good condition. Nobody should find
fault with that. From the recording posted on K8YSE's web site of the Sunday
afternoon AO-51 pass in question:
http://www.papays.com/sat/AO-51_27Mar2011_221636z.mp3
along with posts on here since then, it is clear that was not the
case. This is
exactly like the situation when K5D was on the satellites from
Desecheo a couple
of years ago, and the posted threat by KO4MA to shut down one of the AO-51
repeaters due to what Drew called at the time "extreme poor operating":
http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2009-February/017442.html
Since AO-51 operates on a schedule, AMSAT should keep to the schedule. It
may not be pleasant to hear at times, but we are dealing with a single-channel
satellite (or, at times, a two-channel satellite). There are problems
from time to
time, whether it is an inexperienced operator, someone using an uplink as a
private simplex channel or frequency for an EchoLink/IRLP node, or whatever.
We deal with this on HF, we can deal with it on the satellites.
If there is a last-minute change needed in order to protect the
satellite, we will
understand. If a change in the schedule is needed for some reason, do what's
been done in the past - publish notice of the upcoming change as is normally
done and go from there. If the last-minute change is done because someone
is frustrated with what is being heard, or so someone can try to work a rare
station or a rare grid, that is wrong. By the way, the pass after the uplink
change didn't sound very different than before the change, except for a few
seconds when Drew announced the change and everyone had to change
their uplink frequency.
73.
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 11:28:24 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-60R and recording?
To: "'Amsat-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D5AA0D6743F74B9C973B169339126E31@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello,
Is anyone using a FT-60R with their Arrow and a recorder?
I use a Heil Traveler headset w/boom mic. I have not been able to come up
with any way to put a micro recorder in line with that set up.
The radio only has 1 jack for mic/ear phone. The FT-60R is not duplex so
maybe the question is moot.
The best I can figure so far is to have the recorder close to me so at least
I could log who I contacted (without taking paper notes)
Any thoughts appreciated,
73, Ted
K7TRK
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 09:39:17 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
To: n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: wa5au@xxxxx.xxxx AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, ARISS-ops OPS
<ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9A94096D-302B-44F4-A19D-9D9503AEA903@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Station manager contacted regarding editing the last three seconds of the
clip - they will do so today. - Clint
On Mar 30, 2011, at 7:40 AM, <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
<n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Just viewed the video clip Clint.
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