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Today's Topics:
1. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (John Geiger)
2. Re: SO-67 questions (Bill Dzurilla)
3. echo madness (graham mcphee)
4. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (Roger Kolakowski)
5. CW signal heard (James Luhn)
6. Re: CW signal heard (w4upd)
7. Re: CW signal heard (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: SO-67 questions echo on the downlink (Ib Christoffersen)
9. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
10. Re: -={Echo Madness}=- (Bruce)
11. ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now! (Clary, James T, Civilian)
12. Looking for a manual for a Ten Tec 2510 (Bill Acito W1PA)
13. Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now! (Glenn AA5PK)
14. Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now! (Sebastian)
15. Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin (Clint Bradford)
16. Fw: echo madness (graham mcphee)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 14:06:47 -0500
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: Zachary Beougher <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I think part of the problem is that we are victims of our own success.
There have been numerous articles and presentations about how easy it is to
get on the FM satellites with just an HT or dualband FM rig (and mine isn't
even a true dualband, it just receives on UHF), and this has been so
persuasive, that everyone is now trying it. That is good, it gives us more
activity, more new grid squares to work, etc. If the regulars want to get
on and ragchew with each other you need to do that on the SSB satellites, as
the FM satellites don't really support that activity.
Anyways, as most of us who are using less than optimized circularly
polarized beams with elevation and preamps can attest to, you get some
decent fading from time to time on the received signal. I think this is
what leads to much of the QRM. The satellite briefly fades out so some of
the stations don't know that someone is already talking so they start making
calls. I have heard quite a few stations more or less call CQ on the
satellite and they must not hear it very well because I can hear several
stations come back to them and they just keep CQing instead.
73s John AA5JG
On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Zachary Beougher
<zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Hello Kevin and group,
>
> >Back to the point, please let me know if you think I
> >need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder.
> >I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is
> >a solution...
>
> At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there
> is 30-40
> guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect? Yes,
> there are some rude practices going on, but is that any different than what
> happens when we get in our car and jump on the freeway
> at rush hour? Or how about the grocery store? All you can do is to 1)
> make
> sure you are not part of the issue, 2) adapt to the situation, even if it
> means not making any QSOs and just listening, and 3) run full duplex if
> you can. I understand that there are some that might not be able to afford
> a second
> radio, and I am by no means slamming you for that. I would, however, put a
> second HT/full duplex rig on your list for future purchases. You will be
> amazed at the difference it makes - trust me! I thought full duplex
> sounded
> dumb until I tried it, now I don't know if I could do a pass without it.
>
> Most of all, don't complain about that situation (not that you were,
> Kevin).
> What happens on the road when you "complain" to the other driver about
> cutting you off? It usually ends up in something pretty ugly. No
> different
> here - it just fuels the fire. If you don't like it, do what you can to
> work around the situation and keep your expectations low, and if you really
> hate it, don't get on. Not all passes are bad - I was on a great afternoon
> pass of AO27 yesterday that covered all of the US, and it was great! We
> are
> talking of 1-2 crazy passes in the evening, and then the weekends
> obviously - not all passes. And I am referring to the FM sats - the SSB/CW
> birds are wide open.
>
> Regarding discussion of switching the uplinks randomly, and
> only notifying a select group... While this may be the easy way out of the
> issue (until everyone catches on), it definitely does not correspond with
> what Ham radio has at its roots - hams helping and mentoring other hams. I
> can only imagine how I would feel if I found out that us new hams were
> being
> shut out so the regulars could carry on a QSO without interference. The
> new
> guys and new guys to come have as much right to transmit as anyone else
> that
> uses them. Just keep in mind that pretty much everyone here that reads
> this
> was a newbie at one time, made their first QSO, stepped on someone for the
> first time and probably frustrated someone for the first time.
>
> There has been much discussion about the issue of operator rudeness/busy
> passes on the QRZ forums, here at the BB, and even during busy satellite
> passes comments have been made, but I am not seeing a big difference in
> operating practices - things are still crazy at certain times. As Clint
> stated, this does seem to be blown out of proportion a bit. Look at it
> mathematically: On a typical weekend AO51 pass there can be as many as 30
> stations x 2 QSOs each (not many) = 60 QSOs during a 12 minute pass. That
> is
> 5 QSOs/minute - 1 QSO every *12* seconds. These are rough estimates, but
> when you think about all these stations on ONE frequency, it should not
> surprise anyone that is gets crazy.
>
> Just try to enjoy it for what it is - it is a really neat and challenging
> aspect of the hobby. If we have to put up with a bit of craziness on
> certain passes, I hate to say it, but that is just part of this aspect of
> the hobby. Again, we are talking about one satellite (mainly AO51) on a
> select few passes. This is not an issue spread across the board. There
> are
> still many quiet birds and passes, just take the time to find which ones
> work best for you.
>
> 73,
>
> Zack
> KD8KSN
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Deane
> Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:26 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] -={Echo Madness}=-
>
>
>
> I was hoping to get some feedback from you guys. I have only been operating
> for a short time and had some hicup's along the way. I found some
> recordings
> of when I first started...There were some I could not hear the bird, and
> the
> very first ones were pretty funny. I got some schooling on my form pretty
> quick from you guy's. I wish I would have listened to passes before I
> started, at the time I did not know they existed...
>
> I saw a post about making one contact per pass, well I am guilty. However,
> I
> have been listening to my passes and I dont think I am too intrusive, and I
> get stepped on all the time. My brother say's that I am terribly addicted
> when I was upset when I could not get in on the maddness when they changed
> the uplink, pretty funny really. I was all checkin the equipment from top
> to
> bottom.
>
> Anyway, I try to call the new guys, because I remember how excited I was,
> hearing someone calling me. I still enjoy it, wether it be on VHF/UHF or
> HF.
> Is not that the reason we do this is to have fun? Sure there are times I
> get
> frustrated, cant get in or what not. Maybe that is what this is all about.
> Should I just not jump in there and free up the bird that much more, I
> suppose so.
>
> There are plenty of times when the 51 is not all jammed up, maybe the
> people
> who are all upset about the Echo Madness should just get up early, I can
> hear the east coast pass in the morning, not bad at all as far as traffic
> goes. There are lot's of times I am talking to myself on all the FM Birds.
>
> In the future, on the weekends when it is REALLY busy, are you guys saying
> I
> should just step aside and not operate because it is too busy? Get Real,
> there is always gonna be pile up's on the weekends. That is why these BIG
> GUNS are big guns, because they want to be heard. You can not tell me they
> are not running all kinds of power equipment and what have you.
>
> That sucks for us little guys, but oh well I am not crying, thats just the
> way it is and always will be.
>
> Back to the point, please let me know if you think I need any correcting, I
> would rather help not hinder. I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if
> there is a solution...
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
> nvllrc.org
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 12:19:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bill Dzurilla <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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One more SO-67 question. Why is there an echo on the downlink? Usually I
hear someone talking and then hear the same words a second or two later, but
much louder.
73, Bill NZ5N
> Is SO-67 operating on the published frequencies
> (145.870/435.345) or
> does one of up/down need an adjustment?
>
> What is the meaning of "Use Narrow FM on the uplink" on the
> AMSAT detail
> page for SO-67?? Not sure if I know of any such
> configuration on the
> Yaesu FT-847.
>
> Thanks - Dave
> N7LKL
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:37:06 +1100
From: "graham mcphee" <gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] echo madness
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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to Kevin Deane and others
If the QRM on the sats is too much for you people to take in the northern
hemi just move to beautiful Australia or shaky New Zealand where at the most
that we get on AO51 in the evening is no more than six or seven and we have
a round table discussion, not chasing grid squares as there are only
22million people in VK and 4 million in ZL.
I say this with smile on my face
Graham McPhee VK2AYE
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:03:02 -0400
From: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that
pass, I think it could have easily done without the multiple CQ's along
with the whistling and blowing into the mike...eliminate those bad
habits first and then working on not interrupting quick, 4 transmission
exchanges and trying to keep transmissions short would result in a much
less chaotic atmosphere, even without running full duplex.
Roger
WA1KAT
Zachary Beougher wrote:
> Hello Kevin and group,
>
>
>> Back to the point, please let me know if you think I
>> need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder.
>> I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is
>> a solution...
>>
>
> At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there
> is 30-40
> guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect?
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 15:17:29 -0500
From: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CW signal heard
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D923E59.50102@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I am very new to satellites so please don't be too hard on me in regards
to this post.
This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started
at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at
roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX
near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of
what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A........ I looked on the
AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see
one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing.
Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing.
Also at the time I heard what I believe is some form of radar that
sounded almost like a siren. The signal was pinning the S-meter. Each
time I heard the siren signal I had low flying jets above. No doubt in
my mind there was a connection between the two. The jets were over 3
times, the siren signal was also 3 times. It was strongest when the jets
were directly overhead.
Please excuse me if my questions have already been answered.
73,
James
WA5AOO
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:23:48 -0400
From: w4upd <updwrb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CW signal heard
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D923FD4.4080007@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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You probably heard RS-30. It comes in quite well on 70cm. SOmetimes I
find it following close to AO-51 passes.
Reid, W4UPD
On 3/29/2011 4:17 PM, James Luhn wrote:
> I am very new to satellites so please don't be too hard on me in regards
> to this post.
>
> This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started
> at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at
> roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX
> near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of
> what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A........ I looked on the
> AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see
> one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing.
> Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing.
>
> Also at the time I heard what I believe is some form of radar that
> sounded almost like a siren. The signal was pinning the S-meter. Each
> time I heard the siren signal I had low flying jets above. No doubt in
> my mind there was a connection between the two. The jets were over 3
> times, the siren signal was also 3 times. It was strongest when the jets
> were directly overhead.
>
> Please excuse me if my questions have already been answered.
>
> 73,
> James
> WA5AOO
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 16:28:56 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: CW signal heard
To: James Luhn <luhn@xx.xxx>, Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On 3/29/2011 4:17 PM, James Luhn wrote:
>
> This afternoon at about14:50 cst (07:50 utc) I copied cw that started
> at 435.310mhz and eventually made it to 435.292 before fading away at
> roughly 15:00 cst. I am south of Houston, TX, grid EL29, Texas City, TX
> near Galveston, TX. The code was always 5 character groups. Some of
> what I copied is MCO53, SMA127, SMB0?, US17A........ I looked on the
> AMSAT page to see what satellite was overhead and I did not really see
> one that would fit the strength of the signal (S9) that I was hearing.
> Perhaps someone can inform me as to what satellite I was hearing.
Sounds like RS-30 to me...a real shame there is no real amateur payload
on that satellite!
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 23:31:25 +0200
From: "Ib Christoffersen" <oz1my@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions echo on the downlink
To: "'Bill Dzurilla'" <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <05.49.14430.EAF429D4@xxxxx.xxxx.xx>
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Hi Bill,
It may be the parrot getting triggered by strong uplink signals with high
FM deviation.
I have heard the same on passes over Europe. Not very often - just now and
again.
73 OZ1MY/Ib
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af Bill Dzurilla
Sendt: 29. marts 2011 21:19
Til: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Emne: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 questions
One more SO-67 question. Why is there an echo on the downlink? Usually I
hear someone talking and then hear the same words a second or two later, but
much louder.
73, Bill NZ5N
> Is SO-67 operating on the published frequencies
> (145.870/435.345) or
> does one of up/down need an adjustment?
>
> What is the meaning of "Use Narrow FM on the uplink" on the
> AMSAT detail
> page for SO-67?? Not sure if I know of any such
> configuration on the
> Yaesu FT-847.
>
> Thanks - Dave
> N7LKL
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:22:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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There is only ONE WAY to stop the mess on AO51. Turn it off and let Drew
turn it on when he wants to make a sked with someone . He caused me to miss
a grid contact Sunday when he changed the TX freq in the middle of a pass .
He was wrong in doing that. AO51 is out of control. If an operator needs to
be contacted by email and have proper operation explaned to them ,let KO4MA
do it. We can type these usless messages here till we all get blisters on
our fingers and it will not make any difference. Alot of the people who are
causing the mess dont even use the Amsat BB .
WA4HFN Damon
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Kolakowski" <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 3:03:02 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
Not directed at the authors, but in listening to the recording of that
pass, I think it could have easily done without the multiple CQ's along
with the whistling and blowing into the mike...eliminate those bad
habits first and then working on not interrupting quick, 4 transmission
exchanges and trying to keep transmissions short would result in a much
less chaotic atmosphere, even without running full duplex.
Roger
WA1KAT
Zachary Beougher wrote:
> Hello Kevin and group,
>
>
>> Back to the point, please let me know if you think I
>> need any correcting, I would rather help not hinder.
>> I really enjoy this HOBBY, but I dont know if there is
>> a solution...
>>
>
> At this stage in the game, there really is no solution per say. When there
> is 30-40
> guys on ONE frequency trying to make QSOs, what else can we expect?
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 19:42:30 -0500
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: -={Echo Madness}=-
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Personally, if anyone wants to control who uses a satellite, then make
the satellite digital and give each participant a digital code (which
can be filtered later). Include a list of acceptable usage with it. If
that person violates the acceptable usage then revoke his digital code
and he is gone forever. Hmmmmm.... satellite moderation, just like what
was tried here on the -bb a few years back when flames and flame
throwers got a little out of hand. We received rules of use and if you
violate them, you were banned from the -bb.
I can also remember many years ago in so-35, uo-14 days, there was a ham
that used to have conversations with his xyl on many of the passes.
Turned out.... he was in South America working as a missionary and he
thought he was talking on a really quiet simplex frequency (the
satellite uplink). After days and days of listening, we finally caught a
call sign. I wrote him a letter and explained that we were all listening
to the two of them and if he could QSY. Not a problem, within a week he
was gone and in about another week, he had written me saying he did not
know he was interfering with the satellite.
There really is no solution to a satellite that uses a particular uplink
frequency to keep those that use the simplex frequency or are actually
trying to make a satellite contact and use poor operating practices.
After all, when P5/4L4FN was operating from North Korea, there were many
that made dozens of HF SSB contacts with him when one was enough to give
them the rarest of all DX. There were also many pirates jamming the
frequencies and a real mess. I know this first hand as I am the QSL manager.
Satellites are no different from rare DX, everyone wants a piece of it
and they want it now. As we are trying to get more and more hams
interested in the satellites, we are going to simply have more trying to
use the same space. One solution is for the experienced satellite
operators to move from the single channel FM satellites over to the SSB
birds.
73...bruce
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 01:28:01 -0000
From: "Clary, James T, Civilian" <James.T.Clary.civ@xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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My ship will be pulling into Jacksonville (EM90) late tonight, so there
are no more wet grids to operate from for the time being. It'll be nice
to at least try sleeping through the night tonight for the first time in
weeks without getting up for an oh-dark-30 pass. I've been doing it for
so long that I'll probably be awake at some ridiculous pass-time hour
anyway, but I'll try not to be.
We're due at Charleston SC on 10 April. The run from Jax to Charleston
is just a few hours, but I'm told that since another ship is scheduled
to take our berth at the Jacksonville dock on the 6th, we'll be leaving
a few days early. We won't have a destination, other than Charleston
four days later, but I don't know if we'll head out a few miles and do a
"controlled drift" or do donuts until it's time to head in.
I'll keep an eye on the navigation charts, and will update the BB if it
looks like we'll be in a wet grid when there's a pass coming up.
Meanwhile, I'll finish getting my logs together and get ready to sign
off the ship when we arrive at Charleston. I'll post a trip wrap up in a
few days once I get the numbers compiled.
Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one!
73 for now,
Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC
Jacksonville / EM90
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:02:17 -0400
From: "Bill Acito W1PA" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Looking for a manual for a Ten Tec 2510
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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2510, not 2510B. Not on Ten Tec's site, W7FG doesn't have them, and
waiting on one other commercial site that might have one.
Willing to pay reasonable copying costs.
As Drew pointed out, this needs to be brought down from 435 to 432 --
anyone ever done that?
Bill
W1PA
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:31:00 -0500
From: "Glenn AA5PK" <aa5pk@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
To: "Clary, James T, Civilian" <James.T.Clary.civ@xxx.xxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Clary, James T, Civilian wrote:
> Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one!
Jim,
We all owe you a big thanks for sacrificing your sleep to active those rare
wet grids in the wee hours.
I logged 48 new grids thanks to you. It could have been more if I hadn't
had to be at work during a number of your
operations.
73 and let your vacation time begin!
Glenn AA5PK in DM91
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 00:04:48 -0400
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: ND9M/MM Sat Ops: QRT ... for now!
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I'm sure most on here don't know that Jim was also supplying many
non-satellite hams with very rare grids on both 2 meters and 70 cm as his
ship left the western tip of Cuba, all the way to Jacksonville Florida.
NZ5N and I emailed Jim a few days ago, to see if he would be willing to
spend even more time holding his antenna outside and talking into his mike
when he wasn't working the satellites. He replied saying he would be very
happy to.
Jim would send us periodic emails listing the time and grid he would be at,
and we agreed to use 144.230 on 2 meter SSB.
The 144 MHz propagation logger was also used to notify hams in the area,
including N3LL near Tampa Florida to the west, C6ANX in the Bahamas to the
east, and several others near Jacksonville and perhaps above.
We also had various opportunities to chew the rag with Jim. And yes, there
were pileups!
The antenna Jim uses (an Elk I believe) was simply amazing. On 2 meters, to
the south I worked him at a distance of 151 miles, and to the north a
distance of 204 miles. On 432 my distances were a lot less, but thats
because I presently only have my circularly polarized satellite antenna that
is just 12 feet off the ground.
These contacts were made on 'normal days' with 'normal conditions', no
tropospheric ducting was involved.
Other than the grids being rare, it's a rare opportunity to find such a kind
and patient person. Thanks Jim!
73 de Sebastian, W4AS
On Mar 29, 2011, at 10:31 PM, Glenn AA5PK wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 29, 2011 at 8:28 PM, Clary, James T, Civilian wrote:
>
>> Tks for helping to make the two-month voyage a memorable one!
>
> Jim,
>
> We all owe you a big thanks for sacrificing your sleep to active those
rare wet grids in the wee hours.
>
> I logged 48 new grids thanks to you. It could have been more if I hadn't
had to be at work during a number of your
> operations.
>
> 73 and let your vacation time begin!
>
> Glenn AA5PK in DM91
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Message: 15
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:30:00 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lehman High School on Fox News, Austin
To: wa5au@xxxxx.xxxx AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Fox News covers Lehman event ...
http://tinyurl.com/iss-lehman
-or-
http://www.myfoxaustin.com/dpp/top_stories/Lehman-HS-Students-Tal-to-Astronaut
s-20110329-ktbcw
Clint, K6LCS
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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 18:16:40 +1100
From: "graham mcphee" <gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fw: echo madness
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Correction
Should read 2 million in VK and 70/80 million in ZL
----- Original Message -----
From: "graham mcphee" <gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] echo madness
> Sorry about that
> There was approx 200 000 sheep in VK in the hey day and 70/80 000 in ZL I
> could stand to be corrected
> HI HI
> Graham McPhee VK2AYE
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "nh6vb Scheller" <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
> To: <gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 10:00 AM
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] echo madness
>
>
>
> Hey Graham, you forgot to count the sheep, mate!
> Kiora, Peter NH6VB (Aloha)
>
>> From: gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 06:37:06 +1100
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] echo madness
>>
>> to Kevin Deane and others
>> If the QRM on the sats is too much for you people to take in the northern
>> hemi just move to beautiful Australia or shaky New Zealand where at the
>> most
>> that we get on AO51 in the evening is no more than six or seven and we
>> have
>> a round table discussion, not chasing grid squares as there are only
>> 22million people in VK and 4 million in ZL.
>> I say this with smile on my face
>> Graham McPhee VK2AYE
>>
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