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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-51 and L/U PacSat BBS Mode (Mark L. Hammond)
2. Re: Antenna Analyzer (Pete Rowe)
3. AO7 on Mode A (John Geiger)
4. SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation (Marc Tessier - VE3TES)
5. Re: Antenna Analyzer (i8cvs)
6. Re: Antenna Analyzer (Art McBride)
7. Re: Antenna Analyzer (Pete Rowe)
8. Re: SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation (Alan P. Biddle)
9. Re: SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation (Greg D.)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 06 Mar 2011 10:08:14 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 and L/U PacSat BBS Mode
To: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
"'Vincenzo Mone'" <vimone@xxxxx.xx>, "'Amsat - BBs'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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You can guess my answer...
Yes :)
We make every attempt to keep the digipeater ON when the BBS is on. In
fact, I think the default from a full reload of the satellite is DIGI ON.
73,
Mark N8MH
At 09:30 AM 3/6/2011 -0500, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>You can guess my question...
>Is UI digipeat enabled?
>
>> It is definitely harder to access on the L uplink
>> than on the rarely used V uplink, but it does work.
>
>Bob, WB4APR
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 07:45:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Pete Rowe <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
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Hi Howard
I wouldn't be without my MFJ-269 analyzer.? It is very accurate and a handy
size.? Highly recommended. (no, I don't own stock in MFJ)
One word of caution: mine (and maybe there is something wrong with mine)
draws some power from the batteries with the power switch OFF. So I take one
of the batteries out when not in use.
73,
Pete
WA6WOA
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx> wrote:
From: Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Analyzer
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:16 AM
Hello to everyone
I am seriously thinking about buying an antenna analyzer,I build enough
antennas to justify buying one.I enjoy building HF,VHF,UHF antennas of all
flavors.The standard swr bridge is just not cutting it anymore.So I guess
what I am looking for is one that will do 3mhz to 500mhz,nice to have
computer interface but not a priority.I have seen a few on the internet but
its nice to get some user input,rather then the sales pitches.
Thanks to all who read and reply in advance
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 16:09:50 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO7 on Mode A
To: "Amsat-Bb@xxxxx. Org" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Has there been much activity on Mode A recently?
73s John AA5JG
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 12:21:24 -0500
From: "Marc Tessier - VE3TES" <ve3tes@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello group, after finally getting my SSB part of the station fully
operational, I then moved on to getting my packet operations up and running
, and with great success, one wee problem, I have noticed this when
tracking the ISS, I am able to still digipeat off the station even long
after it is supposed to be beyond the horizon according to my Satpc32 ISS
software. My keps are up to date via the Satpc32 software, is there a error
due to the large amount of mass now docked on the ISS? or have the keps not
be uploaded in a timely fashion to the server I get my keps from?...
Run down of my operation conditions here are as follows...
Radio - Kenwood TS2000
Software SATPC32 + Satpc32 ISS
PC - Dell P4 2.4Ghz CPU with internet connection
Is there another method of getting my keps to show more accurate tracking of
this big bird?...
Regards,
Marc Tessier - VE3TES
ve3tes@xxxxxx.xx
Grid FN25pa
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 18:40:56 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
To: "Pete Rowe" <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
"Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
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Hi Pete, WA6WOA
I do not recommend the MFJ-269 antenna analyser because it is very
inaccurate particularly on 435 MHz
I have compared the MFJ-269 with several professional network analysers and
I have found that at most the MFJ is usable up to 30 MHz maximum because
above 30 MHz the inaccuracy on the real part and the imaginary part of the
impedance reading becomes absolutely unacceptable.
My MFJ-269 was purchased as new but connecting to it a professional
50 ohm termination good up to 12 GHz the VSWR shown at 435 MHz
was 1.1
I have sent back my MFJ to the factory for inspecting and calibration but I
belive that the above instrument was a very bad affair for me and will be a
bad affair for all that intend to use the analyser above 30 MHz.
Be happy with your MFJ-269 even if dreaming while sleeping I am sure that
my message made you suspect a wrong real part and a wrong imaginary part
on your impedance reading !
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Rowe" <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
Hi Howard
I wouldn't be without my MFJ-269 analyzer. It is very accurate and a handy
size. Highly recommended. (no, I don't own stock in MFJ)
One word of caution: mine (and maybe there is something wrong with mine)
draws some power from the batteries with the power switch OFF. So I take one
of the batteries out when not in use.
73,
Pete
WA6WOA
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx> wrote:
From: Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Analyzer
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:16 AM
Hello to everyone
I am seriously thinking about buying an antenna analyzer,I build enough
antennas to justify buying one.I enjoy building HF,VHF,UHF antennas of all
flavors.The standard swr bridge is just not cutting it anymore.So I guess
what I am looking for is one that will do 3mhz to 500mhz,nice to have
computer interface but not a priority.I have seen a few on the internet but
its nice to get some user input,rather then the sales pitches.
Thanks to all who read and reply in advance
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:38:32 -0800
From: "Art McBride" <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "'Pete Rowe'"
<ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "'Howard
Kowall'" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
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Domenico,
For most Amateur Radio work a VSWR of 1.5:1 is adequate. I personally have
never expected MFJ products to be in the League of Anristu, HP and Rohde and
Swartz.
MFJ is a yard stick, the others are a micrometers
Art,
KC6UQH
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of i8cvs
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 9:41 AM
To: Pete Rowe; AMSAT BB; Howard Kowall
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
Hi Pete, WA6WOA
I do not recommend the MFJ-269 antenna analyser because it is very
inaccurate particularly on 435 MHz
I have compared the MFJ-269 with several professional network analysers and
I have found that at most the MFJ is usable up to 30 MHz maximum because
above 30 MHz the inaccuracy on the real part and the imaginary part of the
impedance reading becomes absolutely unacceptable.
My MFJ-269 was purchased as new but connecting to it a professional
50 ohm termination good up to 12 GHz the VSWR shown at 435 MHz
was 1.1
I have sent back my MFJ to the factory for inspecting and calibration but I
belive that the above instrument was a very bad affair for me and will be a
bad affair for all that intend to use the analyser above 30 MHz.
Be happy with your MFJ-269 even if dreaming while sleeping I am sure that
my message made you suspect a wrong real part and a wrong imaginary part
on your impedance reading !
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Rowe" <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
Hi Howard
I wouldn't be without my MFJ-269 analyzer. It is very accurate and a handy
size. Highly recommended. (no, I don't own stock in MFJ)
One word of caution: mine (and maybe there is something wrong with mine)
draws some power from the batteries with the power switch OFF. So I take one
of the batteries out when not in use.
73,
Pete
WA6WOA
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx> wrote:
From: Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna Analyzer
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:16 AM
Hello to everyone
I am seriously thinking about buying an antenna analyzer,I build enough
antennas to justify buying one.I enjoy building HF,VHF,UHF antennas of all
flavors.The standard swr bridge is just not cutting it anymore.So I guess
what I am looking for is one that will do 3mhz to 500mhz,nice to have
computer interface but not a priority.I have seen a few on the internet but
its nice to get some user input,rather then the sales pitches.
Thanks to all who read and reply in advance
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 10:45:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Pete Rowe <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>,
i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
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Thanks Dominico
I have also compared my unit with an HP network analyzer and have found the
readings to be quite acceptable for amateur work.?? Mine reads 1.0 :1 into a
precision load up to 170 MHz.? Indeed, it reads 1.1:1 at UHF and that is
just fine for my measurements. Rarely do I see an antenna match less than
1.1:1.
73,
Pete
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx> wrote:
From: i8cvs <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
To: "Pete Rowe" <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Howard
Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 9:40 AM
Hi Pete, WA6WOA
I do not recommend the MFJ-269 antenna analyser because it is very
inaccurate particularly on 435 MHz
I have compared the MFJ-269 with several professional network analysers and
I have found that at most the MFJ is usable up to 30 MHz maximum because
above 30 MHz the inaccuracy on the real part and the imaginary part of the
impedance reading becomes absolutely unacceptable.
My MFJ-269 was purchased as new but connecting to it a professional
50 ohm termination good up to 12 GHz the VSWR shown at 435 MHz
was 1.1
I have sent back my MFJ to the factory for inspecting? and calibration but I
belive that the above instrument was a very bad affair for me and will be a
bad affair for all that intend to use the analyser above 30 MHz.
Be happy with your MFJ-269 even if? dreaming while sleeping I am sure that
my message made you suspect a wrong real part and a wrong imaginary part
on your impedance reading !
Best 73" de
i8CVS Domenico
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Rowe" <ptrowe@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 4:45 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna Analyzer
Hi Howard
I wouldn't be without my MFJ-269 analyzer. It is very accurate and a handy
size. Highly recommended. (no, I don't own stock in MFJ)
One word of caution: mine (and maybe there is something wrong with mine)
draws some power from the batteries with the power switch OFF. So I take one
of the batteries out when not in use.
73,
Pete
WA6WOA
--- On Sun, 3/6/11, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx> wrote:
From: Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]? Antenna Analyzer
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 6:16 AM
Hello to everyone
I am seriously thinking about buying an antenna analyzer,I build enough
antennas to justify buying one.I enjoy building HF,VHF,UHF antennas of all
flavors.The standard swr bridge is just not cutting it anymore.So I guess
what I am looking for is one that will do 3mhz to 500mhz,nice to have
computer interface but not a priority.I have seen a few on the internet but
its nice to get some user input,rather then the sales pitches.
Thanks to all who read and reply in advance
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:04:55 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
To: "'Marc Tessier - VE3TES'" <ve3tes@xxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Marc,
The ISS reboosted on the 3rd, which results in significant errors until all
the Keps catch up. Make CERTAIN that you are looking at the latest Keps
from Celestrak, AMATEUR.TXT. If you are using the AMSAT Keps, which come
out weekly, it may be a few days before they catch up.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Marc Tessier - VE3TES
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:21 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
Hello group, after finally getting my SSB part of the station fully
operational, I then moved on to getting my packet operations up and running
, and with great success, one wee problem, I have noticed this when
tracking the ISS, I am able to still digipeat off the station even long
after it is supposed to be beyond the horizon according to my Satpc32 ISS
software. My keps are up to date via the Satpc32 software, is there a error
due to the large amount of mass now docked on the ISS? or have the keps not
be uploaded in a timely fashion to the server I get my keps from?...
Run down of my operation conditions here are as follows...
Radio - Kenwood TS2000
Software SATPC32 + Satpc32 ISS
PC - Dell P4 2.4Ghz CPU with internet connection
Is there another method of getting my keps to show more accurate tracking of
this big bird?...
Regards,
Marc Tessier - VE3TES
ve3tes@xxxxxx.xx
Grid FN25pa
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 11:54:44 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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You might also check to be sure that you're not being digipeated by somebody
terrestrial (perhaps a local igate that's also playing digi). If you can
still digipeat off the ISS when it's over, say, India, it's not just a
matter of old Keps.
Greg KO6TH
> From: APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx
> To: ve3tes@xxxxxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 13:04:55 -0600
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
>
> Marc,
>
> The ISS reboosted on the 3rd, which results in significant errors until all
> the Keps catch up. Make CERTAIN that you are looking at the latest Keps
> from Celestrak, AMATEUR.TXT. If you are using the AMSAT Keps, which come
> out weekly, it may be a few days before they catch up.
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Marc Tessier - VE3TES
> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 11:21 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 ISS Showing weird operation
>
> Hello group, after finally getting my SSB part of the station fully
> operational, I then moved on to getting my packet operations up and running
> , and with great success, one wee problem, I have noticed this when
> tracking the ISS, I am able to still digipeat off the station even long
> after it is supposed to be beyond the horizon according to my Satpc32 ISS
> software. My keps are up to date via the Satpc32 software, is there a error
> due to the large amount of mass now docked on the ISS? or have the keps not
> be uploaded in a timely fashion to the server I get my keps from?...
>
> Run down of my operation conditions here are as follows...
>
> Radio - Kenwood TS2000
> Software SATPC32 + Satpc32 ISS
> PC - Dell P4 2.4Ghz CPU with internet connection
>
> Is there another method of getting my keps to show more accurate tracking of
> this big bird?...
>
> Regards,
>
> Marc Tessier - VE3TES
> ve3tes@xxxxxx.xx
> Grid FN25pa
>
>
>
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