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Today's Topics:
1. FS: Arrow 146-4S (Bill Gillenwater)
2. Re: SO-67 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
3. Re: SO-67 (D. Craig Fox)
4. Taurus - Glory launch streaming video and countdown timer
(charlie Cantrill)
5. Re: SO-67 (Rick Tejera)
6. FM SSB Receiver Kit (Kevin Deane)
7. 44 Million HP (Clint Bradford)
8. Re: 44 Million HP (Tony Langdon)
9. Re: KYSat-1 Keps (John Heath)
10. Glory Fails (Clint Bradford)
11. Bad news for Kysat-1 (Bruce Robertson)
12. Glory Fails (Clint Bradford)
13. Re: Bad news for Kysat-1 (Andrew Rich)
14. Re: Glory Fails (g7iii@xxxxx.xxxx
15. Battery-powered UHF Preamp suitable for Arrow or Elk andHT? (K5OE)
16. Icom 910/9600bps (CU2JX Pedro)
17. Re: Bad news for Kysat-1 (Andrew Glasbrenner)
18. Re: Battery-powered UHF Preamp suitable for Arrow or Elk
andHT? (John Floyd)
19. Re: FM SSB Receiver Kit (Roger Kolakowski)
20. Re: Ham Radios on Cruises (John Heath)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:31:44 -0500
From: "Bill Gillenwater" <k3sv@xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS: Arrow 146-4S
To: "AmsatBBS" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DD2C67D98F5B4F599FB03236C20F2E8B@xxxxxx>
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Going to offer this here before putting on QTH.com
Arrow 146-4S solid element antenna with "N" connector.
New, in the shipping bag. I ordered before I found another set of antennas.
There is about a month backlog to get antennas from Arrow, busy place. These
sell for $60 plus shipping and handling of $15. I will sell for $60 shipped
to US only. Paypal or USPS money order.
73 Bill K3SV
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:54:53 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <D981CEF0-A336-4E32-A7B3-5E4D47C4CFE2@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Yes, I worked a pass this AM just fine.
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 3, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier
this week?
>
> Sent from my iPod
> Rick Tejera
> Editor, SACnews
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> K7TEJ
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 16:58:06 -0800
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<3D18A6B1AAE35841854398A9AA36CDC80340C55531@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
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I worked VE8EV on it last night.
Craig
N6RSX
-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Rick Tejera
Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:12 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67
Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier this
week?
Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 17:05:14 -0800 (PST)
From: charlie Cantrill <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Taurus - Glory launch streaming video and
countdown timer
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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This is cool. Don't know if I want to get up at 0500 to watch it though but
folks over the pond can sleep late and still catch it
live.?http://countdown.ksc.nasa.gov/elv/index-vafb.html
Charlie KI4RDT
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 19:15:42 -0700
From: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67
To: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <050A734C-AF92-4CE7-A86E-1A23C1F60EBD@xxx.xxx>
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Thanks. Hopefully I'll be on the 0320ut pass tonight, if I don't have to
pick up
My kid.
73
Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ
On Mar 3, 2011, at 17:58, "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I worked VE8EV on it last night.
>
> Craig
> N6RSX
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Rick Tejera
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2011 4:12 PM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67
>
> Has anyone heard from SO-67 after the reports of not hearing it earlier
this week?
>
> Sent from my iPod
> Rick Tejera
> Editor, SACnews
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> K7TEJ
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011 20:17:46 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FM SSB Receiver Kit
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <col107-w26937EC5F81EC98D3305D83C20@xxx.xxx>
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So my new trip is building a receiver for the SSB birds!!! How about that!
Does anyone know where I can order a kit???
Kevin
KF7MYK
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 03 Mar 2011 21:16:41 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 44 Million HP
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5F7836E2-B68F-4F33-907E-6F46025055F2@xxx.xxx>
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Great camera footage from last month's Shuttle launch. One camera is mounted
on an Solid Rocket Booster. At 2:28, it separates ... and you watch it
splash back into the ocean.
The next camera was mounted watching one leading edge of the Shuttle's wing.
Grab a cup of coffee ...
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/videogallery/index.html?media_id=68551231
Clint
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 19:31:30 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 44 Million HP
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4d70a369.271d640a.7f6e.ffff82b2@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 04:16 PM 3/4/2011, Clint Bradford wrote:
>Great camera footage from last month's Shuttle launch. One camera is
>mounted on an Solid Rocket Booster. At 2:28, it separates ... and
>you watch it splash back into the ocean.
Neat video, well worth the time spent watching it. :)
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:34:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: John Heath <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KYSat-1 Keps
To: charlie Cantrill <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <422792.41481.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
In my experience,?pre launch keps don't have a checksum. They just show the
key
numbers that define the orbit.
My tracking software wont load them automatically. If you key them in manually
it should work fine. You can then run the software and see how the passes will
look for your QTH.
I did this for KYSat-1 on Instanttrack and it worked fine.
There are plenty of places on the net to find the make up of?the NASA 2 line
element set.
73 John G7HIA
?
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From: charlie Cantrill <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, 4 March, 2011 0:26:08
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: KYSat-1 Keps
Curious,?I just tried both the Cubesat.org and Henk's corrected Keps here on
the
computer at home and neither would work. I did the exact same thing at the
schools computer earlier today and it worked fine.?
--- On Thu, 3/3/11, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] KYSat-1 Keps
To: "charlie Cantrill" <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Thursday, March 3, 2011, 7:08 PM
That did the trick!
Thanks
Dave - KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X
On Mar 3, 2011 7:04 PM, "charlie Cantrill" <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2011
>14:15:00 -0500
> From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb]? KySat-1
> To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Message-ID:
> ??? <AANLkTimYtaDN3GaVwo5ih4Oy_t5pXHyf5ckeEt7J8Y+V@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> I just tried using the TLEs off of the KySat-1 page, but couldn't get them
> to work, nothing showed up.
>
> http://ssl.engineering.uky.edu/missions/orbital/kysat1/operations/
>
> Dave - KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID X
>
>
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>
>
> ?I was wondering too if it was the checksum. When the web page was
created, the
>keps got pasted wrong.
> Use the Keps from the ?cubesat.org page, they work.http://www.cubesat.org/
> 1 99999U 00000? ? 11063.43259919 0.00000000? 00000-0? 00000-0 0? 0000
> 2 99999? 97.9564? 8.4412 0007658? 67.0214 113.6793 14.77265551000000If this
>copy does not work, go to the cubesat.org page.
> Charlie CantrillKI4RDT
>
>
>
>
>? ? ?
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:23:19 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Glory Fails
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BCA614C8-4DBC-43FC-986E-1DD0F2E844FB@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Launch failure ... fairing did not deploy ... not sufficient speed to
maintain ... launch failure.
Clint
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 06:25:17 -0400
From: Bruce Robertson <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bad news for Kysat-1
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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NASA TV is reporting that the rocket's fairing did not separate, and
therefore it will not have enough velocity to enter orbit.
So sorry for all working on this interesting project.
73, Bruce VE9QRP
--
http://ve9qrp.blogspot.com
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 02:25:36 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Glory Fails
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <CA3FB87B-E34A-4DC1-9494-F274EB055C49@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII
Gawd, it was beautiful as we watched it cruise down the CA coast.
Launch failure ... fairing did not deploy ... not sufficient speed to
maintain ... launch failure.
Clint
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 20:55:03 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Bad news for Kysat-1
To: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>, "AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2119780B84FF4495984677EDC52AB4C8@xxxxxxxxxx>
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What was that movie called ?
LOOOSSSTTT IIINNNN NEARRRRR SPAAACCCEEE
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Robertson" <ve9qrp@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 8:25 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Bad news for Kysat-1
> NASA TV is reporting that the rocket's fairing did not separate, and
> therefore it will not have enough velocity to e 2011 06:12:58 -0500
From: g7iii@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Glory Fails
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110304111258.GA18026@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
On Fri, Mar 04, 2011 at 02:23:19AM -0800, Clint Bradford wrote:
> Launch failure ... fairing did not deploy ... not sufficient speed to
maintain ... launch failure.
Very sad indeed, but due to the name of the spacecraft,I can't help
thinking of an old campfire song (He jumped from 40000 feet), which
is sung to the tune of The Battle Hymn of the Republic. I really
shouldn't, and do feel for the folks who worked on all the spacecraft
on that launch, but:
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
Glory, glory, hallelujah!
And she ain't gonna fly no more.
(Google the words of the 40k version, and you'll prolly see why I
made the link)
Yes, I know, bad taste, call it almost gallows humour
73s
Iain
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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 09:31:27 -0500 (EST)
From: K5OE <k5oe@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Battery-powered UHF Preamp suitable for Arrow or
Elk andHT?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CDA88FFAE48127-F78-2994@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Bryan,
I built a cheap (about $17 as I recall) little Ramsey UHF preamp in a small
enclosure with a 9 V battery rubber-banded to the Arrow boom, but found the
Arrow had so much gain at 70 cm, even AO-27 was workable at the horizon. I
used an external MFJ diplexer in lieu of the Arrow built-in-handle diplexer
to protect the preamp from RF on transmit (worked fine, BTW). If you don't
find you can hear that well, take a look at your coax and connectors between
the antenna and the rig for unusual losses.
I occasionally see the ARR non-relay preamps going on ebay for under $50 as
well, and one of those with a double-ended BNC connector would bolt right
onto the Arrow driven element connector.
73,
Jerry, K5OE
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a UHF preamp suitable for use with an
> HT and an Arrow? I always wish I had one when I listen for SO-50... it seems
> like it ought to be inline with BNC connectors and battery powered to
> maintain portability...
> Thanks in advance!
> Bryan Green KL7CN
> Usually /W6 in CM98fn
408-836-7279
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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 11:23:47 -0100
From: CU2JX Pedro <pccu2jx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Icom 910/9600bps
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTikrfoFd48Ewb8+=iR12KU0UGVPmCDTTh1=pB=Rc@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hello to all
Any one uses the icom 910 with 9600bps tnc, how toconnect the rig to tnc
Best 73!
Pedro Cruz -cu2jx
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Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2x>
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On 3/4/2011 5:25 AM, Bruce Robertson wrote:
> NASA TV is reporting that the rocket's fairing did not separate, and
> therefore it will not have enough velocity to enter orbit.
>
> So sorry for all working on this interesting project.
>
> 73, Bruce VE9QRP
That's a tough row to hoe for those university students. I'm sorry it
happened too. This is the second fairing failure in a row on the Taurus;
I'd guess we won't see it fly again for a while, until they are damn
sure to have fixed the problem.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:14:39 +0000
From: John Floyd <JFloyd@xx.xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Battery-powered UHF Preamp suitable for Arrow
or Elk andHT?
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<D779305FD025444BB0E13FCAE75E477E2BE3D1EC@xxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The Ramsey pre-amps are high gain and sensitive particularly considering the
price. I use them on a discone for general reception, usually hooked to a
PCR-1000. The only problem I have had is lightning susceptability. I have
never had one survive a summer on the Virginia coast. I want to try again
with a gas discharge tube in front of it. Also, the broad bandwidth
increases intermod. Seems like not a problem for a harow built-in-handle diplexer
to protect the preamp from RF on transmit (worked fine, BTW). If you don't
find you can hear that well, take a look at your coax and connectors between
the antenna and the rig for unusual losses.
I occasionally see the ARR non-relay preamps going on ebay for under $50 as
well, and one of those with a double-ended BNC connector would bolt right
onto the Arrow driven element connector.
73,
Jerry, K5OE
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a UHF preamp suitable for use with an
> HT and an Arrow? I always wish I had one when I listen for SO-50... it seems
> like it ought to be inline with BNC connectors and battery powered to
> maintain portability...
> Thanks in advance!
> Bryan Green KL7CN
> Usually /W6 in CM98fn
408-836-7279
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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 04 Mar 2011 10:20:43 -0500
From: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FM SSB Receiver Kit
To: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D71034B.2060502@xxx.xxx>
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SDR type radio if you like...but why not a simple down-converter and
"leave the driving" to an already existing HF radio?
Roger
WA1KAT
On 3/3/2011 11:17 PM, Kevin Deane wrote:
>
>
> So my new trip is building a receiver for the SSB birds!!! How about that!
Does anyone know where I can order a kit???
>
> Kevin
> KF7MYK
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 4 Mar 2011 15:42:12 +0000 (GMT)
From: John Heath <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cruises
To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <276077.43195.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I didn't expect to be contributing to this thread, but Bob WB4APR's posting
suggested another idea.
Permission to operate is always at the discretion of the captain or master of
the vessel. But how about keeping a list of operations from cruise ships with
the first three items on Bob's list together with dates, name of vessel,
name of
cruise company. That way anyone wishing to do this has a precident for the
captain. There may be less reason to say?no if the captain knows its been?done
before 't a wireless operator, so no potentialy friendly
professional
to put a in a good word.
Just a thought.
73 all John G7HIA
?
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From: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, 1 March, 2011 22:11:02
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cruises
> I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something.
> Wouldn't it be much easier to say ...
> that you must check with the ships
> Captain and/or communications officer
Yes, exactly the point.? But that is no where near good enough advice.? So
that we don?t have to address this for each 4000 of us that might eventually
take a cruise and have piecemeal responses from a dozen different people
offering portions of the answer that then we have to assemble each time from
a dozen emails, the AMSAT web page should also address these points (and
more).
The web page should also suggest:
1) In your (1 page or less) written request to the captain include:
2) What frequencies and bands and power level
3) Description of your antenna and power source
4) Copy of your license
5) Copy of appropriate language in ITU Radio Rules
6) Copy of appropriate language in Maritime Law
7) Copy of whatever else.
Lets nail down the above list once and for all, post it.? And then we don?t
have to hash it everytime with only pieces of the answer coming in from a
dozen different folks, but one answer that accumulates all that info in one
place.
Something like that is what I was proposing.
Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald Jacob [mailto:wb5eku@xxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 4:41 PM
To: Bob Bruninga
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cruises
I'm sorry, maybe I'm missing something.
Wouldn't it be much easier to say (on web page or what ever since this topic
has been address MANY MANY times) that you must check with the ships
Captain and/or communications officer. Forget FCC or any other
nation's communications
authority, since once at sea the ship is totally under the authority
of the Captain -- Maritime Law.
Just seems much more logical to me than beating a dead horse!
73
Don? WB5EKU
On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 12:51 PM, Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> OK, the web page could say:
>
> 1) "The following have written policy prohibiting all "radio"
operations...
> ? <big list>
>
> 2) "The following have written policy prohibiting "amateur radio"
operations
> ? <big list>
>
> 3) "On the following lines no one has yet found a written prohibition, but
> the captian of the ship should always be informed as to any radio
operation
> (usually via the Comm officer).
> Good luck.
> ? <list>
>
> 4) In all categories above. ?There are known examples of individuals
> obtaining permission. ?These cruise lines AND ships have supported amateur
> operations.
>
> * Then each amateur that has been successful should submit a simple
sentence
> of what he did (May request his call be removed before posting on the web
> page so he is not burdened by continuously answering the same question for
> the next 20 years.) ?But properly formatting your sentence to answer all
the
> proper questions in the first place will usually avoid that kind of
bother.
> Examples:
>
> Wrote letter advance to ____. ?Got written permission
> Asked Bursar on arrival to speak to commo... ?Got permission
> Slipped note under door of comm. shack with my cabin number.. got
> permission... etc..
>
> Etc...
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx [mailto:n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:17 PM
> To: Bob Bruninga
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cruises
>
> For what it's worth, you may not be as forward as I am...
>
> On our last cruise (in 2008) I just took my HT and Arrow with me, called
> the Purser and asked to speak with the Radio Officer for permission to
> operate. ?I believe it was the next day that I spoke with them and
> described what I was using and what bands, they gave me permission and I
> went to work making satellite contacts.
>
> At that time, their primary concern was power, frequency, and whether my
> antenna would bother any other passengers. ?Princess Cruise Lines.
>
> 73,
> Jerry
> N?JY
>
>> Can we nail down all the cruise ships that prohibit it and those that
>> allow
>> it into a single document. ?Then provide a link to it on the AMSAT web
>> page?
>>
>> This topic comes up over and over, and someday when I retire, I too am
>> going
>> to want to go on cruise, AND take ham radio along, and so I too will be
>> asking this question.
>>
>> So this is a good INFO topic that we need to collectively nail down, and
>> then get it permanently posted on the AMSAT web page...
>>
>> Thanks...
>> Then we can UPDATE it as new info comes in (everyone write their cruise
>> ship
>> and indicate you're not taking their cruise if you cannot bring your
>> radio)...
>>
>> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
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