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Today's Topics:

   1.  ND9M/mm land ho (KERRY LA*DUKE)
   2.  first satellite contact for N6PG (Scott Rights)
   3.  first satellite contact for N6PG (Scott Rights)
   4. Re: Ham Radios on Cuises (Clint Bradford)
   5.  AMSAT-Fox? (Clint Bradford)
   6.  consensus time (Bob- W7LRD)
   7. Re: consensus time (Bryan Green)
   8.  Educational Launch of Nanosatellites Youtube video
      (charlie Cantrill)
   9. Re: first satellite contact for N6PG (Mark L. Hammond)
  10. Re: Ham Radios on Cuises (Charles Suprin)
  11.  Belated Happy Birthday Oscar 11 (Rich Dailey)
  12. Re: Ham Radios on Cuises (n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
  13. Re: Belated Happy Birthday Oscar 11 (John Geiger)
  14. Re: Ham Radios on Cruises (Mike1234)
  15. Re: Mini-Grid Expedition CP29/CP39 Postponed (John Boudreau)
  16. Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1 (Clint Bradford)
  17.  Re-re-re-revised AO-51 schedule for March (Mark L. Hammond)
  18. Re: AMSAT-Fox? (Dee)
  19. Re: AMSAT-Fox? (Clint Bradford)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:01:21 -0700
From: KERRY LA*DUKE <kladuke1144@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ND9M/mm land ho
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Sharon <sladuk1144@xxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL117-DS113970BB9CDB8D47B13ADDBCC00@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

All,

      Jim just sent ?just spotted USA island/ USA land ho hi?  Still in CM93
but happy to be home.

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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 17:30:16 -0800
From: Scott Rights <scott.rights@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  first satellite contact for N6PG
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <B59C2589-A307-43E6-9804-C59E6E241A56@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii



At 00:40 UTC on AO-51 I made my first contact with W7JPI... Number 2 was
ND9M/mm and number three was K0VK.... let the fun begin!

VX-8R and the Elk antenna....
73's
Scott N6PG




IMG_1451




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:50:29 -0800
From: Scott Rights <scott.rights@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  first satellite contact for N6PG
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <0ACD24A0-6A80-4E24-A061-4E63FF977118@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I made my first contact with AO-51 using a Yaseu VX-8R HT and the Elk
antenna.  Leo, W7JPI, said I should post a photo here... so here it is!  Let
the fun begin...
73's
Scott


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:04:39 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cuises
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <2F8BA89B-B667-4B8F-9B78-8BC71ACF71CD@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>> ... the web page should also suggest ...

So someone researches all the cruise lines, and creates this Web site.

John Doe posts a story on how he was able to obtain permission to use ham
gear on board - despite the "ham gear prohibited" policy.

But Mark Jones can NOT get his equipment aboard on the same cruise line -
for WHATEVER reason the cruise line states. You have NO RECOURSE.

Like someone is going to say, "Well, the AMSAT Official Bulletin Board of
Anecdotal Cruise Experiences Database" says I CAN bring my stuff on board ...

The only result of that is embarrassment to whomever has published this
"information."

WHAT IS THE POINT of such a database? It can used for absolutely nothing
that matters. There is NO CRUISE LINE that states, "Ham radio gear gladly
accepted by all passengers." For OBVIOUS safety and security reasons, the
written policies prohibit ham gear.

There's so much happening in this hobby right now ... the U.S.' H.R. 607
proves we have not educated our elected officials as to what we accomplish
on a daily basis on the air ... we have the 50th anniversary of manned space
flight just a few weeks away ... we have the activation of ARISSat-1 also on
April 12 ... so many projects and topics that MATTER.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS







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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 01 Mar 2011 21:13:11 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AMSAT-Fox?
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1A7EB695-C1B4-46F7-A9EA-37809696A3F4@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

OK - I'll ask. Why is this satellite not named, "AMSAT-Foxtrot?"

It was about 1956 that the U.S. military did away with "Fox" in lieu of
"Foxtrot" for its phonetic alphabet. Even the English army did away with
"Fox"over 50 years ago.

The ITU and militaries cite the sixth letter of the phonetic alphabet as
"Foxtrot." Whose phonetic alphabet do we use to name AMSAT satellites?

Clint Bradford






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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 05:52:21 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  consensus time
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1373031092.1798282.1299045141826.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxx
xxxx.xxx>

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I know thi s has been an old repeatable thread.? I have a large fleamarket
soon.? I will be looking for a dual band FM mobile for satellites.? What are
we using lately.

73 Bob W7LRD

Seattle


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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 1 Mar 2011 23:04:59 -0800
From: Bryan Green <kl7cn.w6@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: consensus time
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTikLMKm1YXyvzkTmdG9efrcg_6QeXOGs8OHysR0s@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 9:52 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
> I know thi s has been an old repeatable thread.  I have a large fleamarket
> soon.  I will be looking for a dual band FM mobile for satellites.  What are
> we using lately.


I love and use the out-of-production ICOM IC-W32A with an Arrow antenna. The
IC-W32A can operate crossband duplex FM VHF/UHF. Its little VFO knob is very
nice for shlemiels like me that have trouble with memory channels. I bought
a second one just to have a backup.

For SSB, I have been enamored of the Yaesu FT-897D for its batteries and
VHF/UHF coverage for the longest time. However, it does not do duplex. I
noticed that Patrick WD9EWK -- love you, Patrick, you crazy grid activator!
-- uses a *pair* of what appear to be Yaesu FT-817s for his portable SSB
work in this YouTube video:

http://youtu.be/BhQPAxipP3Q

It's full duplex the old fashioned way!

-- bag

Bryan Green KL7CN
Usually /W6 in CM98fn
408-836-7279


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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 01:30:27 -0800 (PST)
From: charlie Cantrill <ki4rdt@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Educational Launch of Nanosatellites Youtube
video
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <231192.75449.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Here is a Youtube video describing the ELaNa mission which is piggybacked on
the Glory Launch.ELaNa: Educational Launch of Nanosatellites - Catch a Ride
with Gloryhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tYddpBvMOUo
Charlie CantrillKI4RDT




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:12:34 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: first satellite contact for N6PG
To: Scott Rights <scott.rights@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <ECCf1g00756cfur05CCfh1@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Scott!  There is nothing like your 1st contacts!  Congrats, and welcome
to the addiction :)

Oh, so you know--attachments are removed as they go through the list server,
so we can't see it...it'll take posting at another site and a link.

You landed great 1st and 2nd contacts..nice work.

Welcome!

73,

Mark N8MH

At 05:30 PM 3/1/2011 -0800, you wrote:


>At 00:40 UTC on AO-51 I made my first contact with W7JPI... Number 2 was
ND9M/mm and number three was K0VK.... let the fun begin!
>
>VX-8R and the Elk antenna....
>73's
>Scott N6PG
>
>
>
>
>IMG_1451
>
>
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:47:18 -0500
From: Charles Suprin <hamaa1vs@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cuises
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=JpJeZJUB-e4bc_ZCU5o-9EGoBL1Bn8P9vO3oS@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

I always wondered how folks on a Caribbean cruise kept track of their
reciprocal licenses. Leaving Florida the fcc license is good. Then you might
hit international waters where the license needs to go with the ships
registry, historically Liberia or Panamanian. Then the question is keeping
track of what country's waters you are in at the moment. This may not even
be someplace you are visiting if the boat is cutting through.

It seemed too much of.a paperwork headache for me.

Charles
AA1VS
On Mar 2, 2011 1:08 AM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> ... the web page should also suggest ...
>
> So someone researches all the cruise lines, and creates this Web site.
>
> John Doe posts a story on how he was able to obtain permission to use ham
gear on board - despite the "ham gear prohibited" policy.
>
> But Mark Jones can NOT get his equipment aboard on the same cruise line -
for WHATEVER reason the cruise line states. You have NO RECOURSE.
>
> Like someone is going to say, "Well, the AMSAT Official Bulletin Board of
Anecdotal Cruise Experiences Database" says I CAN bring my stuff on board
...
>
> The only result of that is embarrassment to whomever has published this
"information."
>
> WHAT IS THE POINT of such a database? It can used for absolutely nothing
that matters. There is NO CRUISE LINE that states, "Ham radio gear gladly
accepted by all passengers." For OBVIOUS safety and security reasons, the
written policies prohibit ham gear.
>
> There's so much happening in this hobby right now ... the U.S.' H.R. 607
proves we have not educated our elected officials as to what we accomplish
on a daily basis on the air ... we have the 50th anniversary of manned space
flight just a few weeks away ... we have the activation of ARISSat-1 also on
April 12 ... so many projects and topics that MATTER.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 09:04:50 -0500
From: Rich Dailey <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Belated Happy Birthday Oscar 11
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20110302085728.02499230@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Oscar 11 launch date: Mar 1, 1984

I have a special place in my memory for Oscar 11. It was launched on the
same day that my eldest daughter was born. Both have performed very well
I think for the past 27 years. And last week mother and I were given the news
that she (daughter, not UO-11) is expecting. So excuse the bandwidth - it's
just my
version of a happy dance.

Rich, N8UX



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:30:55 -0600 (CST)
From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cuises
To: "Charles Suprin" <hamaa1vs@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <27383.170.49.217.216.1299076255.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

In order to avoid that problem, and because the cruise is more than just
an opportunity to ham, I just did all my hamming while at sea in
international waters with my Bermuda reciprocal license (ship registry).
>From a satellite operating perspective, there were only a few times a day
to do anything and from our itinerary perspective, we had four days at sea
so it worked out well for both the hamming and the family and fun.

Jerry
N?JY

> I always wondered how folks on a Caribbean cruise kept track of their
> reciprocal licenses. Leaving Florida the fcc license is good. Then you
> might
> hit international waters where the license needs to go with the ships
> registry, historically Liberia or Panamanian. Then the question is keeping
> track of what country's waters you are in at the moment. This may not even
> be someplace you are visiting if the boat is cutting through.
>
> It seemed too much of.a paperwork headache for me.
>
> Charles
> AA1VS





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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 14:35:42 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Belated Happy Birthday Oscar 11
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Rich Dailey" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <50F564F4A6FD4A2DBBFD69DD67B2FD5E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Darn,

I was hoping the news was that we were going to get Oscar 11A in 9 months.

73s John AA5JG

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Dailey" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 2:04 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Belated Happy Birthday Oscar 11


> Oscar 11 launch date: Mar 1, 1984
>
> I have a special place in my memory for Oscar 11. It was launched on the
> same day that my eldest daughter was born. Both have performed very well
> I think for the past 27 years. And last week mother and I were given the
> news
> that she (daughter, not UO-11) is expecting. So excuse the bandwidth -
> it's just my
> version of a happy dance.
>
> Rich, N8UX
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:55:00 -0500
From: "Mike1234" <mikef1234@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cruises
To: "AMSAT" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <58D8F4D77C5B4BD3B882AF47AADC0C7F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I really think your best bet is instead of looking to other people who have
been on cruise ships. Try to contact a ham on a lake freighter. Contact them
on H.F. I believe they have a net also. When my H.F. station was up and
running I have had some contacts with ships.

       Mike   N8GBU


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Charles Suprin
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 8:47 AM
To: Clint Bradford
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Ham Radios on Cuises

I always wondered how folks on a Caribbean cruise kept track of their
reciprocal licenses. Leaving Florida the fcc license is good. Then you might
hit international waters where the license needs to go with the ships
registry, historically Liberia or Panamanian. Then the question is keeping
track of what country's waters you are in at the moment. This may not even
be someplace you are visiting if the boat is cutting through.

It seemed too much of.a paperwork headache for me.

Charles
AA1VS
On Mar 2, 2011 1:08 AM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> ... the web page should also suggest ...
>
> So someone researches all the cruise lines, and creates this Web site.
>
> John Doe posts a story on how he was able to obtain permission to use ham
gear on board - despite the "ham gear prohibited" policy.
>
> But Mark Jones can NOT get his equipment aboard on the same cruise line -
for WHATEVER reason the cruise line states. You have NO RECOURSE.
>
> Like someone is going to say, "Well, the AMSAT Official Bulletin Board of
Anecdotal Cruise Experiences Database" says I CAN bring my stuff on board
...
>
> The only result of that is embarrassment to whomever has published this
"information."
>
> WHAT IS THE POINT of such a database? It can used for absolutely nothing
that matters. There is NO CRUISE LINE that states, "Ham radio gear gladly
accepted by all passengers." For OBVIOUS safety and security reasons, the
written policies prohibit ham gear.
>
> There's so much happening in this hobby right now ... the U.S.' H.R. 607
proves we have not educated our elected officials as to what we accomplish
on a daily basis on the air ... we have the 50th anniversary of manned space
flight just a few weeks away ... we have the activation of ARISSat-1 also on
April 12 ... so many projects and topics that MATTER.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:20:58 -0700 (MST)
From: "John Boudreau" <john@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Mini-Grid Expedition CP29/CP39 Postponed
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<d3fdc1afd44458a1903aacf05c736e74.squirrel@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1

I have to postpone the trip as the road is closed today.  Will try again
soon, maybe on the 11th.  Still looking at an overnight trip to CP79 next
Tues/Wed.

73
John - VE8EV

> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Boudreau
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 1:10 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Mini-Grid Expedition CP29/CP39
>
> I'll be travelling tomorrow to Tuktoyaktuk, NT by ice road and intend to
> be active from CP29 and CP39 as follows:
>
> GRID ON OFF SATELLITE
> =================================
> CP29 19:10 19:20 SO-50
> CP39 20:46 20:52 AO-51
> CP39 20:52 21:00 SO-50
> CP39 21:29 21:30 AO-27
> CP29 22:23 22:32 AO-51
> CP29 22:32 22:41 SO-50
>
> Coverage will be North America only, wherefore art thou HO-68? :(
>
> CP79 next Tuesday/Wednesday.
>
> 73
> John - VE8EV
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>




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Message: 16
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 09:39:20 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: April 12 - Yuri & ARISSat-1
To: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <A94B4A69-2A9C-48BD-9B26-061F9C03ABA6@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Typo, of course - THANK YOU for catching that!

Clint

>> ... space FLIGHT, dude - not a WALK ...

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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2011 13:27:44 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Re-re-re-revised AO-51 schedule for March
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ao51-modes@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=R_eMzKcBq-2QkmtaviYKp9PX_4K-iYXNT_zFC@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

So much for advanced planning!  AO-51 is still not experiencing full
sunlight, most likely due to spacecraft orientation and sun angle.
Therefore, we will change to "normal operational mode" on March 3,
until further notice.  That means we'll be continuing the V/U repeater
at its current power level and activate the Packet BBS with L-band
uplink.

The Packet BBS will be open for use, but we ask for your cooperation
(by standing by and not entering the queue) if you share the footprint
with a command station (most often on the East coast of the US).

Should conditions improve, we'll try to support some S-band
operations--but for now that seems unlikely.

March  3 (~1025 UTC)

Mode V/U FM Voice Repeater (no PL tone needed)
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
Downlink 435.300 MHz FM

Mode L/U PacSat BBS
Uplink: 1268.703 MHz FSK 9k6 baud
Downlink 435.150 MHz FSK 9k6 baud




--
Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]


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Message: 18
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 13:56:36 -0500
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-Fox?
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>,	"'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <2197BCF1C62F4FE1812514BC91E86AD7@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Clint,
As long as our engineers are sitting down and designing something for us,
they can call it what they want.  I think the term "Fox" is OK in my book.
I don't see any F only in the naming scheme.  (all in jest, Clint)
Thanks,
Delta Echo Echo,  November Bravo (two) Foxtrot

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2011 12:13 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-Fox?

OK - I'll ask. Why is this satellite not named, "AMSAT-Foxtrot?"

It was about 1956 that the U.S. military did away with "Fox" in lieu of
"Foxtrot" for its phonetic alphabet. Even the English army did away with
"Fox"over 50 years ago.

The ITU and militaries cite the sixth letter of the phonetic alphabet as
"Foxtrot." Whose phonetic alphabet do we use to name AMSAT satellites?

Clint Bradford




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Message: 19
Date: Wed, 02 Mar 2011 11:00:07 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-Fox?
To: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0BA60DBD-19FF-4D0D-B3AF-D7561F658240@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

It is like the acronym, "OSCAR." When researching the history of the birds,
ORIGINALLY the "O" stood for "Orbital."

But more "modern" citations tell us it is "Orbiting."

It's a disease, Dee ... I am married to a woman who earned the moniker, The
Grammar Bitch. (As a matter of fact, if one goes to thegrammarbitch.com - up
pops my wife's Web site). So getting to the root of things is in my being ...

(grin)

Clint


On Mar 2, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Dee wrote:

Clint,
As long as our engineers are sitting down and designing something for us,
they can call it what they want.


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