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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS (Rick Tejera)
   2. Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS (Clint Bradford)
   3. Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS (Rick Tejera)
   4. Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS (Rick Tejera)
   5. Re: Android satellite tracking (Ron Overdrive)
   6. Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS (Clint Bradford)
   7.  AO-51 S-band // WIFI USB dongle as receiver? (ac0z)
   8.  ND9M/MM Ops: 26 Feb (Clary, James T, Civilian)
   9. Re: Android satellite tracking (Wayne Estes)
  10. Re: AO-51 S-band // WIFI USB dongle as receiver? (Greg D.)
  11. Re: Android satellite tracking (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
  12.  Droid Sat (n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
  13.  HO-68 (Ellis Foley)
  14. Re: Droid Sat (Tom)
  15.  OT: NASA Website access? (wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
  16.  ao-27 (Dads)
  17. Re: OT: NASA Website access? (jmfranke)
  18. Re: OT: NASA Website access? (Jim Jerzycke)
  19. Re: OT: NASA Website access? (Jeffrey Koehler)
  20.  AO-27 Off Frequency? (Zachary Beougher)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:31:07 -0700
From: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <22E65532-B0BC-4B6B-993D-930D52BE8F69@xxx.xxx>
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Ya can look but clear or not you won't see either, they're both in shadow.
They have to be sunlit to be visible.

I've seen passes of both where the ship passes into shadow during the pass.
It would just disappear in an instant.

Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ

On Feb 25, 2011, at 17:10, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> It appears (pun intended) that North America might be able to watch the
Shuttle chase the ISS this evening.
>
> For Southern California ... times n PST tonight ...
>
> Aos: 2011/02/25 22:33:45         329.8         0.0
> Max: 2011/02/25 22:38:24          37.4        13.4
> Los: 2011/02/25 22:42:29          92.4        -0.0
>
> Aos: 2011/02/26 00:08:42         308.0         0.1
> Max: 2011/02/26 00:13:57         201.8        45.9
> Los: 2011/02/26 00:18:32         144.8        -0.0
>
> Anticipating it being even brighter than Sirius.
>
> Clint, K6LCS
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 17:35:33 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DCAADF95-59F8-4EAF-A137-62EA1CBE0482@xxx.xxx>
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Aw, crud ... I thought that first pass was close to being lit ...

Rick - Are any of your photo-telescope people broadcasting any of these
passes on the 'Net?

Clint




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:53:29 -0700
From: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0D9347BB-1696-4ADC-8E58-EC5FB93580F9@xxx.xxx>
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Not that I know. I'll ask around. I have on friend who's image the ISS
against the sun & the moon (different images, of course) I'll look for them
oh his website and post. Quite interesting how he gets to the right location.

Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ

On Feb 25, 2011, at 18:35, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Aw, crud ... I thought that first pass was close to being lit ...
>
> Rick - Are any of your photo-telescope people broadcasting any of these
passes on the 'Net?
>
> Clint
>
>



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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 21:00:26 -0700
From: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <F588A9D4-E830-470D-AA30-E62D5CF59C49@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Clint,

Here's Tom Polakis gallery of satellite photos.

Enjoy

http://www.pbase.com/polakis/satellites


Sent from my iPod
Rick Tejera
Editor, SACnews
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
K7TEJ

On Feb 25, 2011, at 18:53, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Not that I know. I'll ask around. I have on friend who's image the ISS
against the sun & the moon (different images, of course) I'll look for them
oh his website and post. Quite interesting how he gets to the right location.
>
> Sent from my iPod
> Rick Tejera
> Editor, SACnews
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> www.saguaroastro.org
> K7TEJ
>
> On Feb 25, 2011, at 18:35, Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Aw, crud ... I thought that first pass was close to being lit ...
>>
>> Rick - Are any of your photo-telescope people broadcasting any of these
passes on the 'Net?
>>
>> Clint
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:13:23 -0500
From: Ron Overdrive <ronoverdrive@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Android satellite tracking
To: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTimV40bSoRt2HboQdaj4EhouZigZ6Y3OEPXyqd=H@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

There are 2 that come to mind: HamSat Droid and DroidSat. They both do
different things and make a great combo. HamSat Droid is a satellite
prediction app and DroidSat allows you to locate the bird in the sky like a
spotter scope. So use HamSat Droid to predict the bird's pass and use
DroidSat to aim your hand held antenna!

~73, AC2RF Ron

On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 7:05 PM, Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> What are the preferred Android satellite tracking programs for ham
> satellites?  Most seem to be intended for visual sighting.
>
> This subject came up months ago, but without a search function I can't
> find it in the amsat-bb archives.
>
> Wayne Estes W9AE
> Oakland, Oregon, USA, Cn83ik
> _______________________________________________
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>


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:20:25 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Shuttle Chasing ISS
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4819BFE1-1B13-4265-A795-B91D55F51000@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII

Extraordinary work - thanks for the link!

Clint



Here's Tom Polakis gallery of satellite photos.
http://www.pbase.com/polakis/satellites




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:15:05 -0800
From: ac0z <ac0z@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 S-band // WIFI USB dongle as receiver?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx ac0z@xxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D67FFB9.7020503@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello to the AMSAT brain trust.  I am new to satellites and have a new
person question:

 > Is there any way to utilize a WIFI (2.4 GHZ, 13cm) USB dongle (with
SMA ant. port) into a gain antenna, and successfully receive the S-band
downlink from AO-51?  This is a 13cm transceiver, but I suspect the
answer is no.  I already have a 24db gain dish, so I thought I would
ask.  Outside of WIFI, is there anything useful I can do with this
dongle?  The more conventional units (transverters, receivers, etc.) are
a bit spendy for me right now.  thanks.  paul  ac0z


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 07:18:30 -0000
From: "Clary, James T, Civilian" <James.T.Clary.civ@xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ND9M/MM Ops: 26 Feb
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<91BA9771DE57884FBCD59E08A62C65A8881D2E@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>

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I was able to get BM55 into a few logs and BM75 into a bunch of them
today, despite the crappy weather out on the Pacific. (There were no
sigs other than my own on a morning VO52 pass covering some western
states when I was in BM65, so that one went by the wayside.) We've got
at least another day of this before the weather and seas clear up.



Here's the sked for tonight and tomorrow:



FO29 - 26/1022Z - should be in BM85

VO52 - 26/1727Z - BM95

SO50 - 26/2024Z - BM95 or CM05

AO27 - 26/2136Z - CM05

SO50 - 26/2208Z - CM05

FO29 - 27/0244Z - CM05

VO52 - 27/0420Z - CM05 or CM15

SO50 - 27/0500Z - CM05 or CM15

VO52 - 27/0555Z - CM15

FO29 - 27/1106Z - CM15



These passes occur during my work hours. I'll make 'em if possible.

AO51 - 27/0053Z - CM05

FO29 - 27/0059Z - CM05



73,



Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC

Grid BM85



















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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 23:21:22 -0800
From: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Android satellite tracking
To: Ron Overdrive <ronoverdrive@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D68A9F2.2020606@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 02/25/2011 8:13 PM, Ron Overdrive wrote:
> There are 2 that come to mind: HamSat Droid and DroidSat. They both do
> different things and make a great combo. HamSat Droid is a satellite
> prediction app and DroidSat allows you to locate the bird in the sky
> like a spotter scope. So use HamSat Droid to predict the bird's pass and
> use DroidSat to aim your hand held antenna!

HamSatDroid is very easy to use and can download the AMSAT Keps file.
But the output is merely text (azimuth/elevation).  A map of the
footprint would be really nice.  20+ years ago Instant Track displayed a
footprint with a 20 MHz processor.  Today's processors are vastly more
powerful, but no Android application displays a footprint?  I guess
that's because only hams care about it...

Another useful Android application is "Grid Locator".  Launch the app
and it displays the 6-digit Maidenhead Grid of the phone's location.
GPS must be enabled or it says you're in grid JJ00aa.

Wayne Estes W9AE
Oakland, OR, USA, CN83


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 00:08:00 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 S-band // WIFI USB dongle as receiver?
To: <ac0z@xxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BLU133-W1882874F46936627AFDC73A9DC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi Paul,

Well, interesting thought.  While the 2.4 gHz Wi-Fi and 13cm Ham bands do
overlap, the modulation used by Wi-Fi signals and AO-51 are very very
different.  AO-51's narrow band FM downlink is going to be totally ignored
by the frequency-hopping spread spectrum receive demodulator in the Wi-Fi
dongle.  I say that with some question, however, in that some Wi-Fi
equipment is capable of some interesting RF detection and interference
analysis, and might be hacked into some sort of digital receiver.  The trick
would be getting the right dongle and software, and then customizing the
detection algorithm and decoder.  Could be an interesting project for
someone with the right skills and access to what is probably a very
proprietary interface.

But straight out of the box, sorry, no.

Your best bet is to hunt around for an MMDS downconverter (I have a Drake
2880).  Most are quite inexpensive, and are easily converted for Ham use. 
Saddle that up to your antenna and rig, and you'll have a setup that's
probably overkill for AO-51.

Greg  KO6TH


> Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2011 11:15:05 -0800
> From: ac0z@xxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx ac0z@xxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 S-band // WIFI USB dongle as receiver?
>
> Hello to the AMSAT brain trust.  I am new to satellites and have a new
> person question:
>
>  > Is there any way to utilize a WIFI (2.4 GHZ, 13cm) USB dongle (with
> SMA ant. port) into a gain antenna, and successfully receive the S-band
> downlink from AO-51?  This is a 13cm transceiver, but I suspect the
> answer is no.  I already have a 24db gain dish, so I thought I would
> ask.  Outside of WIFI, is there anything useful I can do with this
> dongle?  The more conventional units (transverters, receivers, etc.) are
> a bit spendy for me right now.  thanks.  paul  ac0z
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		

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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:36:19 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Android satellite tracking
To: Wayne Estes <w9ae@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTimWL_MQwAMWNKgD7Kvk0TBenRdnU5sh333jtLmy@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Wayne,

When you are on the page of predictions,  click on one and it will display a
circle with a line that shows the satellite's path from AOS to LOS. During
the pass there is a dot that travels along the line depicting the
satellite's location. So it gives a little better idea whBB72150729@xxxx>
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Anyone running Droid Sat?  I just installed it to try out. When I access the
list of satellite, all I see is a white screen with no text. I can select a
line and it does bring up a satellite....

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
AMSAT 29649
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"




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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 06:42:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Ellis Foley <wa1rks@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HO-68
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <859353.21081.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii



Return Mail to wa1rks@xxxxx.xxx
Does anyone have any info on HO-68,and the Camsat site? I can't seem to
update or create an account. or get any info per the bird,and what its
schedule is,or its health etc.
Any input would be appreciated here. or at wa1rks@xxxxx.xxx Tnks de Ellis
WA1RKS.




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 09:21:23 -0700
From: "Tom" <k0tw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Droid Sat
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5F498ACB7CB446C4AE0D6A27C461A937@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

I'm seeing the same, Mike. I tried changing the text color thinking it may
be set to white on white but saw no change in the satellite list.

Tom - K?TW

>Anyone running Droid Sat? I just installed it to try out. When I access the

>list of satellite, all I see is a white screen with no text. I can select a

>line and it does bring up a satellite....
>
>73,
>Mike, N1JEZ
>AMSAT 29649







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Message: 15
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:11:30 -0600 (CST)
From: wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  OT: NASA Website access?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1153056128.1.1298743905495.JavaMail.javamailuser@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Am I the only one having issues accessing nasa.gov?  It fails on Verizon and
Frontier Networks.  Google has no new news. It seems the entry is gone from
any DNS I can do a lookup on...

Could very well be my cloud has turned against me
Dave

__________________________________
Dave Donaldson
HAM:WB7DRU
Navy/MC MARS:NNN0AXK
Burnsville, MN
Sent from my android device.

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Message: 16
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 12:25:39 -0600
From: "Dads" <w0sat@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  ao-27
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT125-DS10390E8AD8ED36C8F4483AE4DC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi : The last pass on AO-27 the station GL08 doesn,t appear on the data
base.
                 Jerry w0sat



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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:25:52 -0500
From: "jmfranke" <jmfranews. It seems the entry is gone
> from any DNS I can do a lookup on...
>
> Could very well be my cloud has turned against me
> Dave
>
> __________________________________
> Dave Donaldson
> HAM:WB7DRU
> Navy/MC MARS:NNN0AXK
> Burnsville, MN
> Sent from my android device.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 18:34:14 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: NASA Website access?
To: wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D6947A6.4050401@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Works OK here, but some video I had an embeded link to in my blog shows
as "Not Available".

Jim  KQ6EA

On 02/26/2011 06:11 PM, wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Am I the only one having issues accessing nasa.gov?  It fails on Verizon
and Frontier Networks.  Google has no new news. It seems the entry is gone
from any DNS I can do a lookup on...
>
> Could very well be my cloud has turned against me
> Dave
>
> __________________________________
> Dave Donaldson
> HAM:WB7DRU
> Navy/MC MARS:NNN0AXK
> Burnsville, MN
> Sent from my android device.
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:39:22 -0500
From: Jeffrey Koehler <jeffk13057@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: OT: NASA Website access?
To: wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <80bi9i4jjtno8biifg764hrd.1298745562086@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I get a "webpage not available " message.

73 Jeff WB2SYK

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

wb7dru@xxxxxxxx.xxx wrote:

>Am I the only one having issues accessing nasa.gov?  It fails on Verizon
and Frontier Networks.  Google has no new news. It seems the entry is gone
from any DNS I can do a lookup on...
>
>Could very well be my cloud has turned against me
>Dave
>
>__________________________________
>Dave Donaldson
>HAM:WB7DRU
>Navy/MC MARS:NNN0AXK
>Burnsville, MN
>Sent from my android device.
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 26 Feb 2011 13:42:37 -0500
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-27 Off Frequency?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT111-DS7B711AAA1B3A35785BA55B3DC0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,

The last two AO27 passes I have worked over the past two days that come up
from my SE appearing to be about 5kHz off frequency (high).  I have to
monitor 436.810 to receive the signal clearly at AOS.  I would usually start
at .805, 10kHz above the transmit frequency of 436.795.  On the passes that
favor my west all appears to be normal.

Am I the only one that has noticed this?

73!

Zack
KD8KSN

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