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Today's Topics:
1. Radios in carry on luggage (John Geiger)
2. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (Mark L. Hammond)
3. Re: [50mhz] Radios in carry on luggage (doc@xxxx.xxxx
4. Luggage X Radios on planes (Kevin Deane)
5. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxxx
6. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (matt@xxx.xxxx
7. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (Howard Kowall)
8. Re: [50mhz] Radios in carry on luggage (Carl)
9. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (Gordon JC Pearce)
10. Re: mast material question (i8cvs)
11. Re: Radios in carry on luggage (Tony Langdon)
12. Airport screening statistics. Re: Radios in carry on luggage
(Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
13. Satellite OPS9328 Launched 1967? (John Heath)
14. Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior. (i8cvs)
15. Re: Satellite OPS9328 Launched 1967? (i8cvs)
16. Re: Satellite Antennas (k6yk)
17. Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior. (John Geiger)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:27:26 -0600
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Radios in carry on luggage
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<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx
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I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have to
take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
through, or very smooth sailing?
73s John AA5JG
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:45:19 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi John,
I've done this a few times with an FT-817 and HTs. Usually I keep the
radio(s) in a big ziplock bag or two and pull it out for open viewing as it
goes through the x-ray machine. Lay it in it's own plastic tub even, though
I usually just lay it on top of the backpack.
Another habit I have is putting the big pile of cables/wires into another
big ziplock bag and pull it out so they can see it in the plastic tub, too.
In essence, I treat like a laptop and assume it's an item of interest to
them-so show it to them!
They've never asked or given me grief.
73,
Mark N8MH
At 02:27 PM 2/22/2011 -0600, John Geiger wrote:
>I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
>flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
>their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have to
>take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
>through, or very smooth sailing?
>
>73s John AA5JG
>_______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:32:42 -0500
From: "doc@xxxx.xxxx <doc@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [50mhz] Radios in carry on luggage
To: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 6meter@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx
50mhz@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
yaesu@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4D641D6A.30404@xxxx.xxx>
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I had two HTs, a magnesium case older-model Toughbook, two large
spare batteries, a package of AA alkaline batteries and other
electronics and had no trouble.
However, the process can be highly arbitrary and directives from
Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA can change suddenly, so be prepared
for the unexpected and downright weird ...
> I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
> flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
> their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have to
> take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
> through, or very smooth sailing?
>
> 73s John AA5JG
--
Thanks! & 73, KD4E
David Colburn http://kd4e.com
SE-GA Tailgate - April 9th, 2011
Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 13:08:37 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Luggage X Radios on planes
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL107-W1123B8A39157E0915C25883D80@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I was wondering the same thing. I am going to CA soon and of course want to
bring some gear.... I would think this is a pretty common item, but
considering the number of hams vs population maybe not???
I am gonna call the airline and see what they say!
Kevin
KF7MYK
P.S. I stopped experimenting with my new antenna, sorry for any
interuptions this weekend, I was hearing you guys, and myself. Just not good
enough. :(
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:19:49 -0600 (CST)
From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <52380.170.49.217.216.1298409589.squirrel@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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I have always laid the "big" ones (FT-817, CCRadio) out in a tub for them
to look at, the first couple of times having not done so wound up with a
swab and a some questions. Having them exposed seems to have eliminated
that so far. The HTs and wall warts and such I left in my "radio" bag,
nothing has been said about them although it gets the random swab or peek
once in a great while.
Jerry
N?JY
> I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
> flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
> their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have
> to
> take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
> through, or very smooth sailing?
>
> 73s John AA5JG
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 21:42:02 +0000
From: matt@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I've done this a few times now, within the states I've had no issues. I did
almost lose an ft-60, ic-706mkiig, arrow 2 and vertical when going through
dubai. It took hours of hand-waving and begging to get them to bring to an
emirates crew to check for me.
On the way out through dubai it was fine. The way back? They decided that
radio gear and _any cables_ were a security risk :)
I laid it all out in the open for them both times. Fun. :)
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:19:49
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
I have always laid the "big" ones (FT-817, CCRadio) out in a tub for them
to look at, the first couple of times having not done so wound up with a
swab and a some questions. Having them exposed seems to have eliminated
that so far. The HTs and wall warts and such I left in my "radio" bag,
nothing has been said about them although it gets the random swab or peek
once in a great while.
Jerry
N?JY
> I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
> flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
> their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have
> to
> take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
> through, or very smooth sailing?
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>_______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:45:16 -0600
From: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EB5F358CCE854318A1D90C6C60D8A87F@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="Windows-1252";
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I took my FT817nd and some HT's and collection of ant's to France in October
Never had any problems
Howard
VE4ISP
----- Original Message -----
From: <matt@xxx.xxx>
To: <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:42 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
I've done this a few times now, within the states I've had no issues. I did
almost lose an ft-60, ic-706mkiig, arrow 2 and vertical when going through
dubai. It took hours of hand-waving and begging to get them to bring to an
emirates crew to check for me.
On the way out through dubai it was fine. The way back? They decided that
radio gear and _any cables_ were a security risk :)
I laid it all out in the open for them both times. Fun. :)
Matt
-----Original Message-----
From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:19:49
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
I have always laid the "big" ones (FT-817, CCRadio) out in a tub for them
to look at, the first couple of times having not done so wound up with a
swab and a some questions. Having them exposed seems to have eliminated
that so far. The HTs and wall warts and such I left in my "radio" bag,
nothing has been said about them although it gets the random swab or peek
once in a great while.
Jerry
N?JY
> I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
> flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios in
> their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have
> to
> take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to jump
> through, or very smooth sailing?
>
> 73s John AA5JG
>_______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:02:54 -0500
From: "Carl" <km1h@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [50mhz] Radios in carry on luggage
To: <doc@xxxx.xxx>, "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 6meter@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx
50mhz@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
kenwood@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxxx@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Message-ID: <01f501cbd2dc$43fa5b30$6601a8c0@xxxxx>
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He said radios Dave (-;
----- Original Message -----
From: <doc@xxxx.xxx>
To: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <6meter@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; <vhf@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>;
<50mhz@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>;
<yaesu@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>; <kenwood@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [50mhz] Radios in carry on luggage
>I had two HTs, a magnesium case older-model Toughbook, two large
> spare batteries, a package of AA alkaline batteries and other
> electronics and had no trouble.
>
> However, the process can be highly arbitrary and directives from
> Dept. of Homeland Security/TSA can change suddenly, so be prepared
> for the unexpected and downright weird ...
>
>> I am planning a couple of grid expeditions that will involve commercial
>> flights, and wonder what experiences others have had with taking radios
>> in
>> their carry on luggage. Does TSA get very involved in this? Did you have
>> to
>> take it out of the case? Demonstrate it? Was it a bunch of hoops to
>> jump
>> through, or very smooth sailing?
>>
>> 73s John AA5JG
>
> --
>
> Thanks! & 73, KD4E
> David Colburn http://kd4e.com
> SE-GA Tailgate - April 9th, 2011
> Have an http://ultrafidian.com day
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:11:34 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1298412694.10214.16.camel@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 15:45 -0600, Howard Kowall wrote:
> I took my FT817nd and some HT's and collection of ant's to France in October
> Never had any problems
> Howard
> VE4ISP
I took my TH-F7e and a small magmount to France, Germany and Switzerland
last year, but we drove.
What a difference getting the ferry across makes, compared to flying. I
realised as we went through the Customs area that I still had my
Leatherman in my pocket. "Oh", said the very helpful Customs lady who
was checking under the car with a mirror, "would you mind leaving that
in the car, when you actually get onto the ferry?" I hate to think what
an airport security screener would have made of the toolbox, not to
mention the very sharp knives in the camping gear...
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 23:26:41 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: mast material question
To: "zach hillerson" <qstick333@xxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002701cbd2df$94825320$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "zach hillerson" <qstick333@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 3:46 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] mast material question
I am awaiting delivery of a Gulf Alpha dual band antenna that I plan to
mount on a single mast for azimuth-only control. I've read various reports
of metal masts causing polarity (?) issues and others that say they are ok
as long as you don't align the elements with the mast etc...
So - what is the real scoop. Should I be concerned with mast material with
the above setup or is a traditional metal mast fine? If not, any
recommendations would be greatly appreciated. The stronger the better IMO.
Although I realize there is a pretty minimal wind loan, and it will be
mounted in a Glen Martin 4' roof tower, I'd rather not worry about my mast
snapping in the wind...
Thanks,
Zach
N4ERZ
Hi Zach, N4ERZ
Read please the following article:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/articles/Mode-J/
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:39:35 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Radios in carry on luggage
To: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4d643b2e.460ae30a.21c4.7628@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
At 08:19 AM 2/23/2011, n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>I have always laid the "big" ones (FT-817, CCRadio) out in a tub for them
>to look at, the first couple of times having not done so wound up with a
>swab and a some questions. Having them exposed seems to have eliminated
>that so far. The HTs and wall warts and such I left in my "radio" bag,
>nothing has been said about them although it gets the random swab or peek
>once in a great while.
Radios I've carried in carry on baggage. I always take them out and
put them separately in their own tray. Chargers, etc, I just pack in
checked luggage, since they're usually fairly rugged, and I put them
in amongst clothing. Only had problems occasionally with an antenna
that can look sus on X-ray, so that tends to get left out as
well. Let's see, 2 HTs, 2 laptops, and other electronic gadgets, no
problems, except when leaving Melbourne for the US, where one
overzealous security guard queried the radio. A quick check with his
supervisor sorted out the confusion.
In the US (admittedly several years ago now), I only got stopped
once, and a quick manual inspection by one of the TSA guys was all
that was needed to verify all was OK. Turned out something in my bag
was blocking the X rays and causing a confusing view of the contents.
73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 15:49:27 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Airport screening statistics. Re: Radios in carry
on luggage
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20110222154713.00be4f90@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Year to date statistics on Airport screening from
the Department of Homeland Security:
Terrorist Plots Discovered 0
Transvestites 133
Hernias 1,485
Hemorrhoid Cases 3,172
Enlarged Prostates 8,249
Breast Implants 59,350
Natural Blondes 3
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:58:42 +0000 (GMT)
From: John Heath <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite OPS9328 Launched 1967?
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <216199.2297.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Just been looking at the?tracking site??? http://www.n2yo.com/satellites
Some great stuff on this site and thanks for posting the URL to the bb.
At the bottom of the amateur radio?satellite?page there is a listing for
OPS9328
(IDSCS 15)
Were they ham satellites, I don't recal reading about them.
Is this just a simple mistake in the listing?
73 john g7hia.
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:23:42 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL"
<vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001cbd2e7$d238b080$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
> Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
> No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a
> HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and
> Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which
> mean more whining.
>
> Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
>
>
Hi Vince, KB7ADL
To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites
with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds
I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive
beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well.
Here is the address:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
Pulling for P3-E ! !
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 15
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 00:49:53 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite OPS9328 Launched 1967?
To: "John Heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001cbd2eb$7237d400$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Satellite OPS9328 Launched 1967?
Just been looking at the tracking site http://www.n2yo.com/satellites
Some great stuff on this site and thanks for posting the URL to the bb.
At the bottom of the amateur radio satellite page there is a listing for
OPS9328
(IDSCS 15)
Were they ham satellites, I don't recal reading about them.
Is this just a simple mistake in the listing?
73 john g7hia.
Hi John, G7HIA
The OPS9328 launched in 1967 was not an amateur satellite as
you can read here.
http://nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov/nmc/masterCatalog.do?sc=1967-003H
By the way it is possible that the downlink frequency was very close
to the 2 meters band but I was not able to find any information about
the frequency.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 16
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 11:33:34 -0800
From: k6yk <k6yk@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Satellite Antennas
To: kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20110222.161120.953.646010@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Another vote for linear antennas:
I use a 20 element KLM for 70CM
and 14 element Hy-gain for 2 meters.
Vertical polarization.
Mounted on an aluminum cross-arm with
two U-100 rotors.
This has been up for about 12 years, worked on
every bird that's been up there, and does a fine job.
Total expense: $40.
73,
John, K6YK
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:56:34 +0000 Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
writes:
> I agree with Mark 100%.
> I've been using my 'terrestrial' M2 antennas on the satellites for
> years. The GulfAlpha "Easy Satellite" antenna I use for Field day
> is
> also linearly polarized, and works very well.
> Fades? Sure I get them, but most of the time it's only for a few
> seconds, and while a bit annoying it's not a show stopper.
> 73, Jim KQ6EA
>
> On 02/22/2011 04:11 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> > Hi Howard,
> >
> > Lucky you :)
> >
> > Here is my personal opinion from 20 years of operations--if you
> cannot
> > change polarity, don't use circular. Linear works wonderfully.
> >
> > M2 yagis work great no matter what polarity the bird is in...I
> have
> > installed mine vertically on a metal boom. No regrets. And they
> are
> > quite a bit cheaper!!
> >
> > My last setup purchase included three M2 yagis, and I love 'em!
> >
> > http://www.m2inc.com/products/uhf/70cm/44018.html
> >
> > http://www.m2inc.com/products/vhf/2m/2m7.html
> >
> > http://www.m2inc.com/products/uhf/23cm/23cm35ez.html
> >
> > Price those, and then compare the price to circular ones with
> polarity
> > switching on the 2M AND 70cm, and you'll see one reason I went
> that
> > route :)
> >
> > Other reasons include quality, balance on the rotors, gain,
> length
> > (around 10'), durability, and simplicity, etc.
> >
> > Add a 2' dish on a 8' to 10' horizontal metal boom and you're good
> for
> > four bands, and the standard Yaesu G5500 will do just fine with
> the
> > whole mess.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong---circular is more of the ideal, but it gets a
> bit
> > more complicated with polarity switching (not easily done remotely
> for
> > example!), not to mention the expense.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Mark N8MH
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Howard Kowall <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Good morning to all
> >> Well my wife gave me the ok to get some new base satellite
> antennas.
> >> I could really only find 2 manufactures of theses antennas in
> North America
> >> M2 and GulfAlpha.Is there any others,and also can anyone
> recommend something
> >> I would like to be able to use them for the FM sats and
> Transponders.
> >> I would imagine that circular polarized would be the way to
> go(rhcp)
> >> Any input would be much appreciated
> >> Thanks to all who read and reply
> >> Howard
> >> VE4ISP
> >>
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Message: 17
Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 01:28:22 -0000
From: "John Geiger" <aa5jg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
To: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "Amsat - BBs"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
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If you don't like the FM satellites, instead of complaining that we need
more linear satellites (like I have seen suggested), HOW ABOUT USING THE
ONES WE HAVE?? VO52 is an excellent satellite and it is hardly overcrowded,
at least in the US. Many times there is only one or two stations on it.
73s John AA5JG
----- Original Message -----
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL"
<vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 11:23 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 7:56 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Considerate satellite operations behavior.
>
>> Turn Off all the FM birds. ;-)
>
>> No, we told them a dozen times already. Stop building FM crap, and do a
>> HEO or at least as minimums, LEO's with linear transponders and
>> Vuala! Problem solved. But no, they are committed to Fox now, which
>> mean more whining.
>>
>> Anyone remember this degree of whining back when there was a HEO?
>>
>>
>
> Hi Vince, KB7ADL
>
> To get an idea of the high technical quality QSO's on HEO satellites
> with not this degree of "whining" like novadays on the FM LEO birds
> I suggest to read the old AMSAT-BB messages available in the archive
> beginning from the early 2000 to 2004 when AO40 was alive and well.
> Here is the address:
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/index.html
>
> Pulling for P3-E ! !
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
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