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Today's Topics:
1. WD9EWK LOTW uploading - finished!
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Re: Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement (Jim List)
3. ND9M/MM Voyage - VQ9-W4 via Panama (Clary, James T, Civilian)
4. Re: W6RO QSL & VUCC (Zachary Beougher)
5. Re: 2 ht vs. 1-duplex ht (Zachary Beougher)
6. Re: 2 ht vs. 1-duplex ht (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. Now that LOTW has caught up with my uploads...
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
8. Re: Yaesu 530 (Tyler Nicholas)
9. Re: Yaesu 530 (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
10. TLE's for new satellites (Bob Bruninga)
11. Re: TLE's for new satellites (Andrew Glasbrenner)
12. Re: TLE's for new satellites (Mark L. Hammond)
13. International Space Station (Ted)
14. So I am not the only one... (Kevin Deane)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 00:13:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK LOTW uploading - finished!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi!
I just finished uploading my satellite QSOs into LOTW. Except for
any SO-67 QSOs, they are now all in LOTW. The server is still
processing a few of my uploads with over 600 QSOs remaining, but
it now has 9277 of mine. Of those, 1230 are QSLs, a confirmation
rate of 13.2%. My "VUCC account" in LOTW for my WD9EWK activity in
and around Phoenix shows 96 grids confirmed. If a few more QSLs can
be had from the remaining uploads LOTW still needs to process, I may
have enough to use LOTW for my initial satellite VUCC application.
I'll take a look in the morning, to (hopefully) see that the rest
of my uploads have been processed. At one point in the past hour,
I received a strange error message in my browser when trying to see
my LOTW activity. Too many users - after midnight local time (0700
UTC)! Oh well....
Time for bed. 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 09:34:01 -0000
From: "Jim List" <jimlist@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement
To: "'Mark L. Hammond'" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>, "'amsat-bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Agreed, but thats not to say that someone outside UK couldn't set up a GS,
using the info in the AO.
I am sure that the UKSA would welcome that, and also wish to know if any
organisation would be willing to do that.
73 Jim G3WGM
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of Mark L. Hammond
> Sent: 27 January 2011 00:23
> To: amsat-bb
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Re: Re: UKuke-1 Announcement
>
>
> >#21--must be from UK! :)
> >
> >http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/assets/pdf/UKUBEAOGS.pdf
> >
> >"UK-based entities are invited to submit a proposal for Ground Segment
> support on this pilot mission."
> >
> >73,
> >
> >Mark N8MH
> >
> >At 06:22 PM 1/26/2011 -0500, you wrote:
> >>
> >>That is good news.
> >>
> >>Also, I see bids are being solicited from anyone / any team who would
> like
> >>to form the official U-Kube ground station for the 1 year duration of
> the
> >>mission.
> >>
> >>There are a list of 20 requirements for the ground station at:
> >>
> >>_http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/20701.aspx_
> >>(http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/20701.aspx)
> >>
> >>Two are fairly easy. 1) Must have full amateur radio license. 2)
> Antenna
> >>must have RH and LH polarisation.
> >>
> >>73
> >>
> >>David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>In a message dated 26/01/2011 17:33:32 GMT Standard Time,
> >>g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx writes:
> >>
> >>Sorry this time WITH the relevant link!
> >>
> >>_http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/21973.aspx_
> >>(http://www.ukspaceagency.bis.gov.uk/21973.aspx)
> >>
> >>
> >>----- Original Message -----
> >>From: _Graham Shirville_ (mailto:g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >
> >Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 14:04:50 -0000
From: "Clary, James T, Civilian" <James.T.Clary.civ@xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ND9M/MM Voyage - VQ9-W4 via Panama
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Greetings from the Indian Ocean!
My merchant marine ship is enroute from Diego Garcia (grid MI62) to
Charleston, SC (FM03) and is taking the Pacific route this time. I've
got the FT897D and FT817ND with the Arrow-2 with me, and I'll be QRV
from quite a few wet grids along the way. Unfortunately, my XYL Cori
isn't along for the ride; she's at home recovering from shoulder surgery
and getting ready for our next road trip.
The grid fields that I expect to travel through while enroute to the
Left Coast and hopefully operate from include: MI, NI, OI, OJ, PJ, PK,
QK (24 hours at Guam), QL, RL, RM, AM, BM, CM. and DM.
My job is seven days a week for four months straight, which is why I get
long vacations for those long road trips! The downside is that I have to
miss passes that occur during the normal daytime working hours. I can
sometimes get away at key pass times, so AO27 and HO68 (when it's QRV
again) are possible, but can't be predicted.
Another downside is that with an easterly voyage of this length, we'll
be going through a lot of time zones. (We're currently at GMT +6.) We'll
go through 10 time zones before we hit the USA, and at an average of a
time zone every three days (and losing an hour of sleep each time as
well as gain a day somewhere along the line), the body will start to
adjust to the new time just when we have to set clocks ahead again. It's
going to get old very fast!
The majority of passes that I'll be on will be in the late afternoon and
early evening, so AO51, FO29, and AO7 Mode B will be the focus. Early
morning AO7 passes will occasionally be on the plate too.
Likewise, I should be on late evening VO52 passes but likely only once
we've crossed the Int'l Date Line into the eastern Pacific. I have to
set up on the ship's helicopter deck that normally has no lighting and
isn't patrolled. The ship is very, very safe, but since we're at sea, I
have to pay extra attention to wherever I am outside on the decks
especially after dark. My LED headband lamp up gives me pretty good
light up there, but it would be way too easy to disappear over the
railing, and it's a big ocean!
We'll be off the coast of southern California by the end of February and
should be there for about 10 days before we resume our voyage towards
Charleston. Our route will then take us through the Panama Canal and
northward around Cuba towards Jacksonville (EM90) for another stop at
the end of March; after a week or so there, we'll finish the trip with a
quick run to Charleston where I'll sign off the ship in April. Cori will
meet me at the ship, and we'll head home to Panama City, Florida.
I've applied for my IARP permit for Panama so that, barring unforeseen
regulations, I'll be able to operate whatever passes occur as we transit
the Canal. It's way too early to know if we'll actually stop at Panama,
but I'll be ready with the gear to operate from the country itself for
those who need DXCC credit.
I'm cut off from the internet for the next three months, so I will not
have access to my regular AOL e-mail account. Any queries or sked
suggestions should be sent to me at the following shipboard address for
now: james.t.clary.civ(at)msc.navy.mil. The address obviously has a lot
of dots, but they have to be in there to get through.
As always, I'll send regular updates on my trip's progress to the BB.
CU on the birds!
73,
Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC
Grid NI02
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:04:39 -0500
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6RO QSL & VUCC
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "John Papay" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT111-DS238B651C77717BA2327AC0B3FE0@xxx.xxx>
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Hi Jeff and group,
When I submitted my original VUCC app I had to indicate the gird in pencil
on a couple of my cards, and my checker had no problem with it.
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message-----
From: John Papay
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 1:43 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6RO QSL & VUCC
Jeff,
Here's the VUCC rule on the grid square:
7(b) For the convenience of the Awards Manager in checking cards,
applicants may indicate in pencil (pencil ONLY) the
grid locator on the address side of the cards that DO NOT clearly
indicate the grid locator. The applicant affirms that
he/she has accurately determined the proper location from the address
information given on the card by signing the
affirmation statement on the application.
For more proof, you can simply use qrz.com. In the case of W6RO, it
does not show the actual
location of the ship but you can do so by using the google map for
grids and find the ship on the
satellite view. This will spot the lat/long and translate into a
grid square. You only have to certify
that you have determined the correct grid square; you don't have to
prove it to the card checker.
It's always good to go right to the rules when there is any
question. Don't assume that the card
checker always knows them. You will find that you will get other
cards over time that don't have
the grid square on them. Simply determine what the grid square is
and follow the rule above.
It's always a good idea to print out the VUCC rules and take a copy
with you when you get your
cards checked.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:14:00 -0500
From: "Zachary Beougher" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2 ht vs. 1-duplex ht
To: "Tyler Nicholas" <tyler.nicholas@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I have the D7A (full duplex), but I don?t like the receiver sensitivity. I
went back to using one THG71 for the down and the D7 for the up. The other
thing I don't like about the D7 is you have to switch between back and forth
between band A and B to adjust doppler. I would probably not recommend the
D7 for satellite work. I have heard things about the D72.
Zack
KD8KSN
-----Original Message-----
From: Tyler Nicholas
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2011 6:16 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2 ht vs. 1-duplex ht
I will second Drew on the FT-530. I picked one up for under $200 that was
in awesome condition and it is the best HT I have ever owned (and I have
been through a bunch). If you are even luckier, you might find one with the
MH-29 speaker mic that has a LCD display on it. You can adjust the downlink
frequency with this mic and even see the frequency on it. I also found some
massive batteries from W&W manufacturing that make this radio run forever.
For some other full duplex options, you might consider a Kenwood TH-D72. I
haven't tried one, but I have seen good reviews on it as a full duplex
handheld. It's a little pricey ($500) and unless you want the APRS in it, I
would seriously consider an FT-530 or the predecessor to the D72 which is
the Kenwood TH-D7A which can be picked up on eBay or elsewhere for a decent
price.
I would not recommend the Alinco DJ-G7 for full duplex. They are priced good
and will do full duplex, but the receiver has a densense problem when you
transmit on 2m. It's a good radio otherwise, but the full duplex
performance is very poor unless signals are extremely strong (as in local
repeater strong).
I first started using two FT-60s in the beginning and I understand Zach's
problem with lugging everything in and out of the house. Two HTs work just
fine, but if you are really serious about satellites, I would highly
recommend a full duplex HT.
Good luck,
Tyler Nicholas K5TDN
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 26, 2011, at 3:26 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> On 1/26/2011 4:00 PM, Ted wrote:
>> Zach, there are a lot of VUCC's out there that use exactly what you
>> have...
>>
>> Most here will argue that you HAVE to be duplex....a lot get by without
>> it
>>
> No, just that it is a more productive and considerate way of operating.
> A lot of the congestion you hear on AO-51 is due to stations either not
> knowing, or not caring, that they are in competition for the uplink.
> Full duplex takes care of half of that. Things are also MUCH different
> when AO-51 is over the west coast with it's considerably lower density
> of hams.
>
> To answer your question Zach, it's all about your personal budget and
> needs. Adding a 2nd HT is probably the cheapest route, but adds more
> complication than a single full duplex HT. Maybe you could try borrowing
> an HT to try it with two? If you want to go with a single full duplex
> HT, there are lots of older ones out there in good condition used. I saw
> an FT-530 the other day with a ton of accessories going for less than a
> new single band. That is one of the finest full duplex radios ever made
> for satellites.
>
> Another trick is to take the Arrow off the tripod and hold it by hand
> where you can rapidly twist it to peak the signal due to polarity
> differences. With full duplex you can even do this while transmitting to
> clear up a ratty uplink. Check out
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTqjQ9xIQQE for an example of how much
> polarity plays in signal strength on AO-51 with an Arrow (or Elk, or any
> linear antenna).
>
> 73, and good luck on the air,
> Drew KO4MA
> AMSAT-NA VP Operations
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 08:24:27 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 2 ht vs. 1-duplex ht
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Zack,
> I have the D7A (full duplex), but I don?t like the receiver sensitivity. ?I
> went back to using one THG71 for the down and the D7 for the up. ?The other
> thing I don't like about the D7 is you have to switch between back and forth
> between band A and B to adjust doppler. ?I would probably not recommend the
> D7 for satellite work. ?I have heard things about the D72.
If someone is looking for a single HT for full-duplex satellite work, I would
recommend the D7 despite having to switch VFOs for Doppler adjustments.
I have the TH-D72A, which works the same way as the TH-D7 regarding
the need to jump between the two VFOs to adjust the receiver. It's a small
nuisance, but a small price to pay for not having to deal with two radios
when working full-duplex on FM satellites. I've picked up a couple of old
D7s (one appears to be a TH-D7A(G), and the other may be an original
TH-D7A), that I hope to get new battery packs for and make a couple of
FM satellite stations when combined with Elk antennas.
Your TH-G71A is a good dual-band HT. Not capable of full-duplex operation,
but worked well for me using groups of memory channels for FM satellites.
The receiver was pretty good, and some would notice that I changed to a
different radio from my normal radios when I used that HT.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 07:56:07 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Now that LOTW has caught up with my uploads...
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi!
It looks like LOTW took about 5 minutes or so after I shut down
last night to get the rest of my uploads processed. The numbers
now stand at 9911 QSO records, with 1332 QSLs (13.4% confirmation
rate). I also had to adjust the ruleset for my VUCC "account" based
on activity in and around Phoenix, since it was picking up at least
a couple of QSOs I know would be outside the 200km limit in the VUCC
rules. I'm now at 87 grids confirmed for my Phoenix-area activity,
based on LOTW QSLs. Not enough for a VUCC application solely on LOTW
QSLs, but not bad considering VUCC just became an option through LOTW.
I spent almost as much time last night getting the last 2100 QSOs
uploaded as I did the other evening working on the larger part of
my log, since I had more station locations to define. I made 60
uploads in total last night. Some of those locations only had a
handful of QSOs, and a couple had exactly one QSO. I had to redo
a couple of uploads, since I fat-fingered the grids for a couple
of the station locations (locations at 4-grid intersections - ones
that really need to be done carefully). I also found that I had to
upload some QSO records again, so I could have a station's call with
"/P" after it. I expect this will probably be the main reason I won't
see some QSLs; not having the appropriate indicator added to a
station's call. This is not a big deal, as I can make a new QSO
record and quickly go through the process to upload the additional
record. If you think there should be QSLs with any of my calls that
you are not seeing, please e-mail me directly so we can take a look at
specific instances.
Once SO-67 is supported by LOTW, I can upload those QSOs. Then my
complete satellite log will be there. I will upload my future satellite
activity to LOTW periodically, and hope to go through my logs to get 6m
activity and possibly other contest logs I have in electronic form up
there. And, soon, save enough pesos to make my initial satellite VUCC
application, plus a lunch for my friendly card checker as he goes through
all of those cards. :-)
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 10:45:08 -0600
From: Tyler Nicholas <tyler.nicholas@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 530
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Zach,
I found my FT-530 on QTH.com and it had a charger and a battery with it.
There's one on eBay right now that looks to be ok. I would just watch eBay,
QRZ, QTH, and eham for some to pop up. The FT-530 has a good receiver and
hears great when you are transmitting on 2m.
Another feature that makes satellite operation on the FT-530 a breeze is the
sub tune feature. It allows you to leave 70cm as the active band for tuning
with the VFO while the PTT button transmits on the 2m side. This makes
things so easy because you never have to switch bands back and fourth all
the time to adjust your downlink frequency.
Tyler Nicholas K5TDN
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:03 AM, zach hillerson <qstick333@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks for your response to my query regarding duplex vs. 2 ht. I agree
with you that a singular, well performing duplex ht is ideal. If I could
find a used duplex I would much prefer that to spending $500 on a new
Kenwood. I'm wondering where you managed to find your Yaesu 530? Do you
think posting a WTB on QRZ is a decent way to go about looking?
>
> Finally - is the 530 the preferred duplex ht?
>
> Thanks for your great post and help, I appreciate it.
>
> Zach Hillerson
> KJ4ZVV
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:57:19 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 530
To: Tyler Nicholas <tyler.nicholas@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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xxxx.xxx>
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The kenwood 710 will do the same and is full duplex
WA4HFN
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Nicholas" <tyler.nicholas@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Thursday, January 27, 2011 10:45:08 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Yaesu 530
Hi Zach,
I found my FT-530 on QTH.com and it had a charger and a battery with it.
There's one on eBay right now that looks to be ok. I would just watch eBay,
QRZ, QTH, and eham for some to pop up. The FT-530 has a good receiver and
hears great when you are transmitting on 2m.
Another feature that makes satellite operation on the FT-530 a breeze is the
sub tune feature. It allows you to leave 70cm as the active band for tuning
with the VFO while the PTT button transmits on the 2m side. This makes
things so easy because you never have to switch bands back and fourth all
the time to adjust your downlink frequency.
Tyler Nicholas K5TDN
Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 27, 2011, at 9:03 AM, zach hillerson <qstick333@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks for your response to my query regarding duplex vs. 2 ht. I agree
with you that a singular, well performing duplex ht is ideal. If I could
find a used duplex I would much prefer that to spending $500 on a new
Kenwood. I'm wondering where you managed to find your Yaesu 530? Do you
think posting a WTB on QRZ is a decent way to go about looking?
>
> Finally - is the 530 the preferred duplex ht?
>
> Thanks for your great post and help, I appreciate it.
>
> Zach Hillerson
> KJ4ZVV
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:06:09 -0500
From: "Bob Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLE's for new satellites
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0c2601cbbe44$7e05e440$7a11acc0$@xxx>
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RAX, OREOS, NANOSail-D,
I feel dumb asking this,
1) Because we see these questions everyday here and I ignore them all
2) I assume they just have not looked on celestrack
But now I went to get TLE's for the recent launches and I'm getting nothing.
AMSAT web pages have nothing on them. CELESTRAK has nothing. Or I can't
find them.
I've spent 2 days getting ready for a student lab searching for individual
pages (if you can find them). But it seems to be extraordinary that people
with satellite pages: Never put the object number RIGHT UP FRONT once they
are launched. Some (FAST-1 and FAST2) list TLE's with object numbers in the
90xxx range which I assumed were just pre-launch predictions. Then I have
to cut and paste and fight all the checksum problems.
For decades, I have always just gone to CELESTRAK and everything was there.
Clearly I'm having a brain freeze.
STK even has no satellites in its database above 36xxx.
What happened while I was asleep?
Thanks
Bob
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:32:29 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TLE's for new satellites
To: Bob Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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NORAD/DOD/SpaceTrack/?whoever classified that launch like it was an NROL
launch; no published keps. AMSAT (namely Ray Hoad) has been getting them
from the webpages of the individual projects and including them in the
keps distribution emails. I'll forward the last keps email I can find to
you separately.
73, Drew KO4MA
On 1/27/2011 12:06 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:
> RAX, OREOS, NANOSail-D,
>
> I feel dumb asking this,
> 1) Because we see these questions everyday here and I ignore them all
> 2) I assume they just have not looked on celestrack
>
> But now I went to get TLE's for the recent launches and I'm getting nothing.
> AMSAT web pages have nothing on them. CELESTRAK has nothing. Or I can't
> find them.
>
> I've spent 2 days getting ready for a student lab searching for individual
> pages (if you can find them). But it seems to be extraordinary that people
> with satellite pages: Never put the object number RIGHT UP FRONT once they
> are launched. Some (FAST-1 and FAST2) list TLE's with object numbers in the
> 90xxx range which I assumed were just pre-launch predictions. Then I have
> to cut and paste and fight all the checksum problems.
>
> For decades, I have always just gone to CELESTRAK and everything was there.
> Clearly I'm having a brain freeze.
>
> STK even has no satellites in its database above 36xxx.
>
> What happened while I was asleep?
>
> Thanks
> Bob
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:44:36 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TLE's for new satellites
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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Or look here, of course:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
Mark
On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:32 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> NORAD/DOD/SpaceTrack/?whoever classified that launch like it was an NROL
> launch; no published keps. AMSAT (namely Ray Hoad) has been getting them
> from the webpages of the individual projects and including them in the
> keps distribution emails. I'll forward the last keps email I can find to
> you separately.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> On 1/27/2011 12:06 PM, Bob Bruninga wrote:
>> RAX, OREOS, NANOSail-D,
>>
>> I feel dumb asking this,
>> 1) Because we see these questions everyday here and I ignore them all
>> 2) I assume they just have not looked on celestrack
>>
>> But now I went to get TLE's for the recent launches and I'm getting
nothing.
>> AMSAT web pages have nothing on them. ?CELESTRAK has nothing. ?Or I can't
>> find them.
>>
>> I've spent 2 days getting ready for a student lab searching for individual
>> pages (if you can find them). ?But it seems to be extraordinary that people
>> with satellite pages: ?Never put the object number RIGHT UP FRONT once they
>> are launched. ?Some (FAST-1 and FAST2) list TLE's with object numbers in
the
>> 90xxx range which I assumed were just pre-launch predictions. ?Then I have
>> to cut and paste and fight all the checksum problems.
>>
>> For decades, I have always just gone to CELESTRAK and everything was there.
>> Clearly I'm having a brain freeze.
>>
>> STK even has no satellites in its database above 36xxx.
>>
>> What happened while I was asleep?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>
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Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:01:28 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] International Space Station
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9F4C9C7385144C0C8C7FD9E77231484E@xxxxxxxxxxx>
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I thought this link was interesting
Space Station
Look at what happened from 1998 until 2008. In just ten years it has grown
and grown. Watch the pieces come together as they are sent up from Earth.
This is the International Space Station (ISS) Assembly diagram, piece by
piece.
I had no idea the Space Station had grown to this size.
<http://i.usatoday.net/tech/graphics/iss_timeline/flash.htm>
click here
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:56:51 -0800
From: Kevin Deane <summit496@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] So I am not the only one...
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL107-W51902E2B5AC90486FB63F083FE0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
I agree 100%. I am still pretty new at this, I also have trouble
finding up to date sites. So a friend of mine let me have like half of this
site and I get to put whatever I want on it, and he does practically all the
work! all I have to do is keep it updated. Easy right?
So if anyone has information they would like to contribute please
e-mail me or post it on the forum @ nvllrc.org, theres just an article I
wrote and a bunch of relevent links at the bottom so far. I have lots of
time to keep it up to date and will put whatever you guys want on there!!! I
put that AO-51 pdf on there.
Anyway, if you guys arent against the new and young guys. I am trying
to make it so people dont make the same mistakes I did, like cloggin up the
passes with calls when I had no ears. Stuff like that. You know the way you
guys want it done not just guesswork and trial and error. So not that anyone
will do it but at least there will be one site with usefull info and you
dont half to go through old posts, or ask for new post and whatever please
help!!
Still excited,
Kevin
KF7MYK
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