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Today's Topics:
1. Re: HO-68 comments. (i8cvs)
2. HO-68 orbit comments. (John Hackett)
3. Re: Helped needed--AO-51 activity reports (Frank Drewes)
4. Mix W (jerry)
5. I thought that you would be interested in this (g7hia@xxxxx.xxxx
6. IR0CD D-Star repeater in satellite band ( 145.975 MHz) ?
(f6htj@xxx.xxxx
7. Re: K6LCS Site Validity (Dee)
8. Re: HO-68 comments. (Mike Rupprecht)
9. We Need Help (Martha)
10. New Turkish 3U cube with amateur two-way payload?
(Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. Re: New Turkish 3U cube with amateur two-way payload?
(Rich Dailey)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 20:36:33 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 comments.
To: <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <000001cbac47$6225efe0$0401a8c0@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hackett" <archie.hackett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 comments.
>
> Once again, I note the whinging about HO-68's orbit not being suitable for
a particular station ... or two.
>
> I'd like to remind the gentlemen concerned that HO-68's on time is NOT
designed to favour one particular area. Please remember, it's a Chinese
satellite and we should abide by and respect their decision of when to
activate the transponder.
>
> For my own use,the HO-68 late afternoon GMT 'on' times are optimum.
>
> Conversly, I 'could' complain about the ISS orbit - (but I don't) -only
'seeing it at max 6 degrees for 90 seconds every 2 days - (read: unworkable
from my QTH), dirro SO-50, AO-27 and VO-52.
>
> What may be poor for one operator could be optimum for another.
>
> Please remember, the world consists of more than The United States Of
America and Southern Europe.
>
> 73 John. <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
>
Hi John, LA2QAA
I don't agree with you because there are many and many HO-68 orbits with the
satellite transponder OFF despite the elevation is very hight for South
Europe and North Europe i.e. for you and for me as well for South USA and
North USA
The problem is that in the above orbits HO-68 cannot be very well monitored
by the only one command station in China and they prefere to switch OFF the
transponder.
The pobleme is that the Chinese HO-68 should have more control stations
around the the world instead of only one in China.The roule is that many
control station are needed for a LEO satellites and only two or maximum tree
for a HEO satellite.
Same problem arise with JAMSAT with only one control station in Japan for
FO-29
AMSAT China and AMSAT Japan don't like to share the command of their
satellites with AMSAT's command stations in different continents.
Conversly you should remember that in the early 1974 AMSAT had control
stations for OSCAR-6 in USA ,in North Africa (Algeria) and Australia
so that the satellite was continuously monitored and during all orbits it
was operational.
I abandoned HO-68 for the better and reliable as well in all orbits
available transponder of VO-52
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 22:48:16 +0100
From: John Hackett <archie.hackett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 orbit comments.
To: Dom <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <SNT104-W2BDF5508AD74D4538811D91080@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello Dom,
You are of course right.
I have been in contact with Alan Kung regarding various aspects of HO-68 but
as you correctly state,
The Chinese don't seen to want to share the workload.
I went as far as offering donations to help Amsat China but was politely
refused (!) ... the implication being that subscriptions would require
reciprocating with 'information' - (which was NOT my intention).
I think your comments will give people a better understanding of why the
orbits are not always otimum
for certain times/areas.
73 John. <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
CC'd to the group and the Amsat-bb for general information purposes.
..............................................................................
.......................................
> Hi John, LA2QAA
>
> I don't agree with you because there are many and many HO-68 orbits with the
> satellite transponder OFF despite the elevation is very hight for South
> Europe and North Europe i.e. for you and for me as well for South USA and
> North USA
>
> The problem is that in the above orbits HO-68 cannot be very well monitored
> by the only one command station in China and they prefere to switch OFF the
> transponder.
>
> The pobleme is that the Chinese HO-68 should have more control stations
> around the the world instead of only one in China.The roule is that many
> control station are needed for a LEO satellites and only two or maximum tree
> for a HEO satellite.
>
> Same problem arise with JAMSAT with only one control station in Japan for
> FO-29
>
> AMSAT China and AMSAT Japan don't like to share the command of their
> satellites with AMSAT's command stations in different continents.
>
> Conversly you should remember that in the early 1974 AMSAT had control
> stations for OSCAR-6 in USA ,in North Africa (Algeria) and Australia
> so that the satellite was continuously monitored and during all orbits it
> was operational.
>
> I abandoned HO-68 for the better and reliable as well in all orbits
> available transponder of VO-52
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2011 19:16:50 -0600
From: Frank Drewes <frank.drewes@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Helped needed--AO-51 activity reports
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTikzAj+OqLzXH9mUKW185iFbgAzpEECukmgCWFCS@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Mark,
In the case where there is an eclipse during part of the pass,
would you prefer to have the report that you heard it, or that you
didn't (signal lost) ?
Frank
KK5XX
On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Thanks, Reid. ?One of the challenges for the command stations is that
sometimes we're working on the digital side of the bird (435.150) and
therefore can't easily tell what is going on with the 435.300 side. ?So
reports are very helpful.
>
> Yes, we figure people will like the 1.47 Watt signals! ?It spoils
you...that's up from around 500 mW a few days ago. ?That's the benefit of
running one transmitter at a time...there is quite a bit of power available
when you don't have to share the available current between 2 transmittters :)
>
> Again, thanks for the report.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark N8MH
>
> At 06:13 PM 1/4/2011 -0500, w4upd wrote:
>>I worked a number of stations here in Melbourne, Florida during that
>>pass. AO-51 was coming quite good and I didn't even have my 70cm preamp
>>on during the entire pass while working the stations with omni antennas
>>that are not the same. The 70cm downlink was copied using a 2 meter
>>$2.50 homebrew groundplane for the 70cm downlink.
>>
>>Reid, W4UPD
>>
>>
>>
>>On 1/4/2011 5:59 PM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>>> Thanks to our many friends for their posts about AO-51 activity! ?It is
very helpful. ?I think our international colleagues are winning by a
landslide...
>>>
>>> I must admit a bit of disappointment though that many passes over the
East coast of the US go without a report...*please* consider posting that
AO-51 was active. ?Just one report is helpful and confirms that the bird
remains active.
>>>
>>> Did anybody work AO-51 during the 4:45pm pass today??
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Mark N8MH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 03:50 PM 12/30/2010 -0500, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
>>>> Hell All,
>>>>
>>>> The command team could really use your help. ?If you work AO-51 (or
hear it) and there isn't a recent entry, please make a report entry here
http://oscar.dcarr.org/ ?so we know all is well.
>>>>
>>>> Things are touch-and-go now that we are experiencing eclipses, and
reports on the OSCAR Status Page that the bird is up and functional are
extremely helpful.
>>>>
>>>> We do expect the transmitter to go OFF during eclipse, but eclipses are
only a couple minutes or less at the moment.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your help!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark L. Hammond ?[N8MH]
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>> Mark L. Hammond ?[N8MH]
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>
>>_______________________________________________
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>
>
> Mark L. Hammond ?[N8MH]
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 00:05:11 -0600
From: "jerry" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mix W
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DC28BAD8857B42B38F2891C7019F91E3@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Trevor M5AKA
I use MixW to recieve packet from Fastrac .1200bps.
Often , I hear the signal , but it doesn't print . Tonight I had a 57 Degree
pass and copied very well.
Jerry WB5LHD
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 07:50:04 -0500
From: g7hia@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] I thought that you would be interested in this
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <86C8E5304E33465BA2CB62B718608157@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello,
John Heath sent you this page from the L-com website.
To view, simply follow this link or copy and paste the URL into the address
field in your browser.
USB Extender - W01-EXT-USB-50
http://www.l-com.com/item.aspx?id=10560
Hi,
FUNcube dongle mounted remotley.
A possible solution from L-Com. 160 feet+
73 John G7HIA
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 09:06:31 -0500
From: f6htj@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] IR0CD D-Star repeater in satellite band ( 145.975
MHz) ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CD7AF8E36968E3-1BE0-C7C1@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello all; and here is another one:
http://www.dstarusers.org/viewrepeater.php?system=IR0CD
73 de Michel F6HTJ
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 10:26:41 -0500
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: K6LCS Site Validity
To: "'Clint Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7E9C6E99AB0D4E228DC0DD2C4DA1FC53@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Clint,
This is why we get the comments we do at all the hamfests. Everyone is
distrustful.
Keep up the flag wavin' and disregard the noise level.
73,
Dee, NB2F
Think HEO!
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Clint Bradford
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:54 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] K6LCS Site Validity
Someone just visited the LINKS section on eHam, found my satellite site, and
entered this comment:
"Question site validity that the funds actually go to. URL doesn't match
AMSAT at all."
That person obviously knows little about me. And less about the AMSAT fund
raising widget program. The widget's script is what AMSAT sent to me, of
course.
And, of course, those "Links" comments are all entered anonymously.
So, you ignorant moron, please call AMSAT's home office to verify "where my
funds go." Since you do not trust me, just find the phone number yourself.
It is posted on the AMSAT-NA Web site. You can also find email contact info
there, too, for all current AMSAT board members.
Un-freakin'-believable.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:30:29 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 comments.
To: "'i8cvs'" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>, "'Amsat - BBs'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <002701cbacc3$944aa070$bcdfe150$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Domenico,
The approach is excellent, but you forget the first link in the chain.
HO-68 was built and funded all alone by the Chinese. So they can also decide
alone whether and how long they offer a service for other radio amateurs.
Each transponder operates on a schedule will omit any region in the world.
This is quite the same way with satellites which have an low inclination
orbit.
We are not entitled to the transponder but should be happy and grateful that
we can use it regularly. Unfortunately, the reality shows - if it is active
- it is far from optimal use ....
73, Mike
DK3WN
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im
Auftrag von i8cvs
Gesendet: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 8:37 PM
An: la2qaa@xxxxx.xxxx Amsat - BBs
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 comments.
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Hackett" <archie.hackett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 10:50 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 comments.
>
> Once again, I note the whinging about HO-68's orbit not being suitable for
a particular station ... or two.
>
> I'd like to remind the gentlemen concerned that HO-68's on time is NOT
designed to favour one particular area. Please remember, it's a Chinese
satellite and we should abide by and respect their decision of when to
activate the transponder.
>
> For my own use,the HO-68 late afternoon GMT 'on' times are optimum.
>
> Conversly, I 'could' complain about the ISS orbit - (but I don't) -only
'seeing it at max 6 degrees for 90 seconds every 2 days - (read: unworkable
from my QTH), dirro SO-50, AO-27 and VO-52.
>
> What may be poor for one operator could be optimum for another.
>
> Please remember, the world consists of more than The United States Of
America and Southern Europe.
>
> 73 John. <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
>
Hi John, LA2QAA
I don't agree with you because there are many and many HO-68 orbits with the
satellite transponder OFF despite the elevation is very hight for South
Europe and North Europe i.e. for you and for me as well for South USA and
North USA
The problem is that in the above orbits HO-68 cannot be very well monitored
by the only one command station in China and they prefere to switch OFF the
transponder.
The pobleme is that the Chinese HO-68 should have more control stations
around the the world instead of only one in China.The roule is that many
control station are needed for a LEO satellites and only two or maximum tree
for a HEO satellite.
Same problem arise with JAMSAT with only one control station in Japan for
FO-29
AMSAT China and AMSAT Japan don't like to share the command of their
satellites with AMSAT's command stations in different continents.
Conversly you should remember that in the early 1974 AMSAT had control
stations for OSCAR-6 in USA ,in North Africa (Algeria) and Australia
so that the satellite was continuously monitored and during all orbits it
was operational.
I abandoned HO-68 for the better and reliable as well in all orbits
available transponder of VO-52
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 11:57:55 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] We Need Help
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=2wqW5Dpy-47CE=4qYP97=p2tA35J+=sAmU2HE@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
AMSAT is looking for members who are willing to work on the AMSAT Journal.
If you are interested, please contact Gould Smith at 865-691-2718
--
73- Martha
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 12:24:46 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New Turkish 3U cube with amateur two-way payload?
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<28033328.1294248287027.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Turkey_To_Launch_First_Home_Made_Communicati
ons_Test_Satellite_999.html
Ignoring that silly drawing, has anyone heard about this before now?
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2011 13:54:58 -0500
From: Rich Dailey <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Turkish 3U cube with amateur two-way
payload?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20110105134715.023ec818@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
At 12:24 PM 1/5/2011, you wrote:
>http://www.spacedaily.com/reports/Turkey_To_Launch_First_Home_Made_Communicat
ions_Test_Satellite_999.html
>Ignoring that silly drawing, has anyone heard about this before now?
Sorry, but I'm really diggin' that design, with the log periodic antenna,
and the mast with
the red thing on top. Not to mention the fact that it will provide voice
transmission wirelessly. :-)
It all looks and sounds very scientific. I only hope that since it will be
using an amateur band, radio
amateurs are involved.
Rich, N8UX
https://twitter.com/RichDailey
https://www.facebook.com/RichDailey
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