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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Fred Spinner)
2. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Gordon JC Pearce)
3. Re: WD9EWK's 2010 satellite QSO stats (Rick - WA4NVM)
4. Re: IR0CK in sat band ? (Luc Leblanc)
5. Yaesu VX-7R (Clint Bradford)
6. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Howard Long)
7. BEESAT decode (Vincenzo Mone)
8. AO-51 @ 9k6 (Vincenzo Mone)
9. Re: AO-51 @ 9k6 (Mark L. Hammond)
10. HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare Cross
Reference tool (Bruce Semple)
11. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Gordon JC Pearce)
12. Re: HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare
CrossReference tool (i8cvs)
13. Re: HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare
CrossReference tool (w4upd)
14. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Iain Young, G7III)
15. Re: Need Advice for SDR choice (Fred Spinner)
16. Re: [eu-amsat] Re: IR0CK in sat band ? (Thomas Frey)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 03:17:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: Fred Spinner <fred@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Howard needs to get someone on this side of the pond building these Dongles
also. I'm sure he could have someone over here sign the NDA and produce
significantly cheaper than in Europe.
The offer of a Mexican shop sure seems logical.
The exchange rate right now makes these about $175 US for Americans which is
approaching pricey.
It's hard enough to get a softrock. One minute to order is doing nothing
but making him look bad at present. I wasn't even going to attempt it. I
thought about writing a perl script to order for me.. but that's insane. I
wonder how many got them that way... sigh...
Fred W0FMS
Jan 2, 2011 07:57:20 PM, amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
===========================================
More are coming...and you can be sure Howard is working to try to meet the
demand.
I'm guessing that a key to having a reasonable supply is dependent on how
the next 100 turn out--they are being assembled by a vendor, so Howard
doesn't go blind and/or batty from making them all himself!! If you haven't
been to the website to view the assembly video, you owe it to yourself to do
so...
Sorry you didn't get one... yet ;) It'll be worth the wait!!
73,
Mark
At 12:50 AM 1/3/2011 +0000, Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604 wrote:
>The only problem with the FCB is that they're currently very close to
>unobtainum. The batch that became available this morning (4AM at my
>current location) sold out in less than 1 minute (I didn't get one, in
>spite of typing as fast as I can, at exactly 20:00 UTC).
>
>73, doug
>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark L. Hammond"
>>> To: "Andrew Rich";
>>> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 10:25 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Need Advice for SDR choice
>>>
>>>
>>>> Check out:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.funcubedongle.com/
>>>>
>>>> Assuming you only need receive, of course...
>>>>
>>>> Works great...just had a QSO on FO-29 using it for receive (thanks
KB1RVT!).
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>>
>>>> Mark N8MH
>>>>
>>>> At 07:47 PM 1/3/2011 +1100, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I need some advice. I would like to purchase a Software Defined Radio
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to be able to do
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Around 50 MHz to 2.400 GHz
>>>>> 2. USB LSB CW FM WFM / RAW ?
>>>>> 3. I would like to be able to decode AX25 packet (ISS)
>>>>>
>>>>> I also have another project of decoding Mode S aircraft signals.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Windows XP / MAC OS X / Linux OpenSUSE.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are my decoding options for the SDR ?
>>>>>
>>>>> I can build packages etc in LINUX
>>>>>
>>>>> - Andrew VK4TEC -
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>>
>>
>> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:36:12 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 03:17 +0000, Fred Spinner wrote:
> Howard needs to get someone on this side of the pond building these
> Dongles also. I'm sure he could have someone over here sign the NDA
> and produce significantly cheaper than in Europe.
I was interested until you said "NDA", now I won't touch it ;-)
>From the FAQ it looks like it's only got half-assed Linux support and
the fact that there's an NDA involved suggests that it's going to be
impossible to write a driver for it. Closed-source software has no
place in amateur radio.
I'll stick to softrocks, thanks.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2011 21:49:44 -0600
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: WD9EWK's 2010 satellite QSO stats
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Patrick,
Great Job and thanks for all the grids and contacts over
the last few years! I like your breakdown of all the bird passes.
Damon keeps asking me "why are we doing this?" I just tell him "it's
fun and we're trying to support the post office".
We all appreciate the work and "expense" you and others incur
to pass out those grids and further our hobby on the birds. As you
know, it takes a lot of miles and stamps to make it all happen.
Now it's 2011............. It's time to get your VUCC turned in! You
will have to buy that card checker a "big" lunch at this point.
We met a few years ago on an ISS contact. I have really enjoyed
our friendship and conversions over the years.
73 and Best Wishes for the New Year,
Rick WA4NVM
> Hi!
>
> After seeing a few messages showing a breakdown of QSOs by
> satellite for a few operators, I decided to go through my
> log after the end of the year and do the same thing. I
> logged more satellite QSOs in 2010 (2704) than in any
> previous year. Not only have I tried to be active from
> home (or close to it), I've been on whenever I've traveled
> away from home. None of my QSOs in 2010 were made from
> fixed stations; all were completed with my portable gear.
> As you've seen me write in many posts and probably have
> heard me say, working the satellites has been fun!
>
> Here are some breakdowns of those 2704 QSOs...
>
> QSOs by call sign:
>
> 2159 QSOs as WD9EWK
> 377 QSOs as VA7EWK (July 2010)
> 152 QSOs as XE2/WD9EWK (February and July 2010)
> 16 QSOs as VA7EWK and WD9EWK (Canada/USA border, 8 July 2010)
>
>
> QSOs by satellite:
>
> 741 on AO-51 - 27.4%
> 587 on AO-27 - 21.7%
> 428 on SO-50 - 15.8%
> 390 on HO-68 - 14.4% (311 in FM, 79 in SSB)
> 227 on AO-7 - 8.4%
> 211 on FO-29 - 7.8%
> 105 on VO-52 - 3.9%
> 15 on SO-67 - 0.6%
>
>
> QSOs by mode:
>
> 2082 in FM - 77.0%
> 616 in SSB - 22.8%
> 6 in CW - 0.2%
>
>
> Operated from: 7 US states (Arizona, Illinois, Indiana, Iowa, Ohio,
> Washington, Wisconsin)
> 1 Canadian province (British Columbia)
> 1 Mexican state (Baja California)
> 2 US state boundaries (Illinois/Wisconsin,
> Indiana/Ohio)
> 1 international boundary (Canada/USA)
> 38 grids (CN78, CN79, CN88, CN89, CN99, CO60, CO70,
> CO80, CO90, DM21, DM22, DM23, DM24, DM25,
> DM31, DM32, DM33, DM34, DM35, DM41, DM42,
> DM43, DM44, DM45, DM51, DM52, DM53, DM54,
> DM56, EM79, EN40, EN41, EN51, EN52, EN61,
> EN62, EN70, EN80)
>
> My first QSO of 2010 was with Omar XE1AO on AO-51 (FM), operating
> from Phoenix AZ (DM33xp/DM43ap) on 1 January 2010. My last QSO
> of 2010 was with George WA5KBH on FO-29 (SSB) from north of Black
> Canyon City AZ (DM34we) on Friday (31 December) afternoon. I
> thought I'd have more AO-51 QSOs than I did, but I'm not surprised
> it has been the satellite with the most QSOs. Despite all its
> issues, AO-51 has been the most productive satellite for QSOs since
> my first QSOs in late 2005. HO-68 is generally not available in
> the evenings here in Arizona, which is a shame. With that said, it
> has been a very good performer since it was first activated in late
> 2009 - in FM and SSB.
>
> I know there are some who have traveled more and worked from more
> places than I have in the past year. K8YSE's road trip in September
> around Lake Superior comes to mind, as do ND9M's trips during the
> past year. The only way I can approach what they have done on their
> trips would require more vacation time or winning lottery numbers.
> :-) I have noticed more have taken up the challenge of working the
> satellites away from home, a good thing.
>
> Since my trip to Dayton in May, I have taken my all-mode satellite
> station anywhere I've gone. I've been picking up more new call signs
> on the SSB passes throughout 2010, so there is hope for more activity
> on those satellites in 2011. SSB activity may never match the level
> of FM activity, but I'm happy I took the time to learn how to do that.
>
> Thanks to everyone for all the QSOs on the satellites throughout
> 2010. Happy 2011 to all, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 15:50:41 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: IR0CK in sat band ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx f6htj@xxx.xxx
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On 2 Jan 2011 at 14:15, f6htj@xxx.xxx wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:15:45 -0500
From: f6htj@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] IR0CK in sat band ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>
> Hello all and HNY.
>
> There seems to be an Italian repeater inside 2m satellite band (145.850
MHz) :
>
>
http://www.ondatelematica.it/joomla/index.php/ponti-ripetitori-/69-ripetitore-
ir0ck-r10-145850-600-sub-67
>
> maybe on air as satellite gateway ?
>
> 73 de Michel F6HTJ
>
>
>
>
>
I posted this message to the EU-AMSAT YAHOO DISCUSSION GROUP too. Our
Italian satellite op's friends will be inform (If it's not already
done) but amateur communications affairs are conducted differently in EU
including Italy. BTW could be Ruby can be of some help here:)
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:54:13 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu VX-7R
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <3595F78A-B311-41B2-BBA3-7049FD3DCABD@xxx.xxx>
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VX-7R owners - to work the FM satellites, are you just programming "split
freqs" into single memory channels (per page 46-ish of the manual)?
Or is there a more esoteric method?
I have owned a VX-7R since the week they were released ... but have
neglected it far too long ...
Clint, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 09:29:59 +0000
From: Howard Long <howard@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <B335625E-ABBA-4A3C-B5EA-F94FD0CE383D@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Folks
Some information for you.
We are already looking at having these distributed and manufactured
externally.
The extreme demand was not what we expected I'm afraid. Please understand
that to make these I have to personally invest several thousand dollars up
front, and I want to have close control over the first units to make sure
there is nothing that means a mass recall.
Regarding your comments about the NDA, this only applies to the device
itself, in particular the tuner chip. This is very common in this area of
semiconductors. It does not apply to host software, where source code is
available already across windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
We thought long and hard about using a device with an NDA. However please
remember that the original reason for the dongle was to provide a means of
educational outreach for FUNcube, something that anyone could use, and that
means making something plug and play, and reasonably priced. This almost
dictated the use of a mass market tuner chip to keep the price down.
Remember that a proportion of the purchase price of the Pro model goes to
supporting AMSAT. The educational outreach version will be significantly
cheaper.
The NDA does not mean that the interface specs cannot be published. I have
made available several example programs with source code. Already people
other than me have developed software for the FCD. Someone has already
written a Hamlib interface for example. The disclosure model is no different
to, say, the excellent SDR IQ.
Regarding Linux support and drivers, the FCD was designed to work out of the
box without any additional drivers in Linux, OSX and Windows. This is
expressly mentioned right on the FUNcube Dongle home page.
Initially I had no intention of providing cross platform host software,
leaving it to others. However after some quite vocal communications from the
Mac and Linux communities I provided some cross platform example code. Bear
in mind that the last time i wrote anything for the Mac was 20 years ago and
for Linux perhaps about 10 years ago. I spent three weeks getting myself up
to speed and making this work. It is interesting that the demographic stats
of this accessing the FUNcube Dongle website shows only 4.6% are Linux users.
Hopefully this addresses the comments made.
73, Howard G6LVB
Sent from my iPhone
On 3 Jan 2011, at 03:36, Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 03:17 +0000, Fred Spinner wrote:
>> Howard needs to get someone on this side of the pond building these
>> Dongles also. I'm sure he could have someone over here sign the NDA
>> and produce significantly cheaper than in Europe.
>
> I was interested until you said "NDA", now I won't touch it ;-)
>
>> From the FAQ it looks like it's only got half-assed Linux support and
> the fact that there's an NDA involved suggests that it's going to be
> impossible to write a driver for it. Closed-source software has no
> place in amateur radio.
>
> I'll stick to softrocks, thanks.
>
> Gordon MM0YEQ
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:32:20 +0100
From: "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BEESAT decode
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi to the list,
i would like to know if BEESAT is active and what I need to decode it.
Just now I had a good pass and could hear on 436.000 MHz a burst of about 1
or
2 seconds long. I heard about 5 or 6 continually then quite, then after a
while again the same as above.
It was like the squelch opened on FM.
I have tried to decode it with my 9k6 baud G3RUH modem but could not decode
none neither the RX led
Lighted up, maybe the modem is not the correct one.
Anyone can drive me to the correct details?
Thanks in advance.
73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 13:40:42 +0100
From: "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 @ 9k6
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi to the list,
reading on the amsat web as the status of AO-51 i can read:
By command only:
9k6 Baud Telemetry
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM at 9600 baud
What does it mean?
Should we have to activate it?
If yes how?
Thanks in advance
73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 08:51:57 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 @ 9k6
To: Vincenzo Mone <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello Enzo,
I am sorry this wasn't clear. It means that only command stations
wiill be turning it ON and OFF as needed to collect telemetry; it is
not open for general use.
Thanks,
Mark N8MH
On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 7:40 AM, Vincenzo Mone <vimone@xxxxx.xx> wrote:
> Hi to the list,
> reading on the amsat web as the status of AO-51 i can read:
>
> By command only:
>
> 9k6 Baud Telemetry
> Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM at 9600 baud
>
> What does it mean?
> Should we have to activate it?
> If yes how?
> Thanks in advance
>
> 73 de Enzo IK8OZV
> EasyLog 5 BetaTester
> EasyLog PDA BetaTester
> WinBollet BetaTester
> D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
> Skype: ik8ozv8520
>
>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 09:47:16 -0500
From: Bruce Semple <bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare
Cross Reference tool
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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There must be a better way (than the way I am currently doing it) -
to find out
when the following two parameters are true:
1. HO-68 is ON
2. HO-68 is visible from my QTH (allowing for some minimum radio horizon)
Is there some tool out there?
My observation is that usually - when I have a nice high pass
(elevation > 15-20 deg) over my
QTH - USA - East Coast - HO-68 is in one of it's scheduled off times.
Not a complaint -- I'm just trying to figure out how to better
coordinate with the HO-68 schedule.
Thoughts / Comments appreciated
Bruce
WA3SWJ
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 15:03:03 +0000
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1294066983.31998.23.camel@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:29 +0000, Howard Long wrote:
> The extreme demand was not what we expected I'm afraid. Please
> understand that to make these I have to personally invest several
> thousand dollars up front, and I want to have close control over the
> first units to make sure there is nothing that means a mass recall.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really *really* glad you're shifting units. It
makes it all worthwhile when you see those orders come in. What was it,
just under a minute until the last batch sold out?
> Regarding your comments about the NDA, this only applies to the device
> itself, in particular the tuner chip. This is very common in this area
> of semiconductors. It does not apply to host software, where source
> code is available already across windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
Okay, but how can we write software for it without access to the spec
for the chip?
> Remember that a proportion of the purchase price of the Pro model goes
> to supporting AMSAT. The educational outreach version will be
> significantly cheaper.
While I'd like to donate
> The NDA does not mean that the interface specs cannot be published. I
> have made available several example programs with source code. Already
> people other than me have developed software for the FCD. Someone has
> already written a Hamlib interface for example. The disclosure model
> is no different to, say, the excellent SDR IQ.
There *are* sample programs, but none of them appear to build in Linux.
Maybe I'm missing something. I got somewhere with the Qt version, but
it moans about libusb not being installed. Why it can't see libusb
sitting there happily in /lib/ is beyond me.
> Regarding Linux support and drivers, the FCD was designed to work out
> of the box without any additional drivers in Linux, OSX and Windows.
> This is expressly mentioned right on the FUNcube Dongle home page.
Well, if it uses class-compliant devices then great - that *does* make
it all a bit easier.
> Initially I had no intention of providing cross platform host
> software, leaving it to others. However after some quite vocal
> communications from the Mac and Linux communities I provided some
> cross platform example code. Bear in mind that the last time i wrote
> anything for the Mac was 20 years ago and for Linux perhaps about 10
> years ago. I spent three weeks getting myself up to speed and making
> this work. It is interesting that the demographic stats of this
> accessing the FUNcube Dongle website shows only 4.6% are Linux users.
Well, if the software doesn't run in Linux then people won't use it in
Linux. If there was enough documentation to let me write software to
support it, then I'd buy one as soon as they next became available.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:38:42 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by
GridSquare CrossReference tool
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Bruce Semple"
<bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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From: "Bruce Semple" <bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:47 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare
CrossReference tool
>
> My observation is that usually - when I have a nice high pass
> (elevation > 15-20 deg) over my
> QTH - USA - East Coast - HO-68 is in one of it's scheduled off times.
> Not a complaint -- I'm just trying to figure out how to better
> coordinate with the HO-68 schedule.
>
>
> Thoughts / Comments appreciated
>
> Bruce
> WA3SWJ
>
Hi Bruce, WA3SWJ
The same happens here in south of Europe and this is why I abandoned HO-68
in favour most of the time of the most reliable VO-52.
73" de
i8CVS Domenico
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:05:26 -0500
From: w4upd <updwrb@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by
GridSquare CrossReference tool
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On 1/3/2011 10:38 AM, i8cvs wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bruce Semple"<bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To:<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2011 3:47 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Scheduled OnTime / Visibility by GridSquare
> CrossReference tool
>> My observation is that usually - when I have a nice high pass
>> (elevation> 15-20 deg) over my
>> QTH - USA - East Coast - HO-68 is in one of it's scheduled off times.
>> Not a complaint -- I'm just trying to figure out how to better
>> coordinate with the HO-68 schedule.
>>
>>
>> Thoughts / Comments appreciated
>>
>> Bruce
>> WA3SWJ
>>
> Hi Bruce, WA3SWJ
>
> The same happens here in south of Europe and this is why I abandoned HO-68
> in favour most of the time of the most reliable VO-52.
>
> 73" de
>
> i8CVS Domenico
>
Same thing happens here in Florida (South East USA) The only passes are
usually low and difficult with omni antennas. As a result we have also
chose not to try and work HO-68 during the lower passes. All of the good
passes, the satellite is not active for our area.
Reid, W4UPD
Amsat: 17002
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 16:20:14 +0000
From: "Iain Young, G7III" <g7iii@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
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On 03/01/11 15:03, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> There *are* sample programs, but none of them appear to build in Linux.
> Maybe I'm missing something. I got somewhere with the Qt version, but
> it moans about libusb not being installed. Why it can't see libusb
> sitting there happily in /lib/ is beyond me.
The build probably wants the -dev package as well as the built library,
you might want to check if you have it installed. I'm afraid I've been
a tad busy playing with the USRP SDR this Christmas, but I might look
at the linux code for the FCD in the next couple of weeks
I suspect most of the compile issues are dependancy related...I know
I'm spoilt these days on debian and ubuntu with the build-depends :)
73s
Iain
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2011 16:48:55 +0000 (GMT)
From: Fred Spinner <fred@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Need Advice for SDR choice
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Howard:
As for the NDA, ask the vendor what is and is not acceptable. I'd approach
this as it going to a bunch of engineers (there's a lot out there) that
might also be interested in their chips. Not having access to the firmware
is a problem for a lot of us. It makes the device basically like an ICOM
radio..
Having access to the source would make the devices worth quite a bit more to
me. I don't care all that much about the inner workings of the tuner. It's
a tuner.. black box..
All of the NDA stuff is a tad bit ridiculous, but that is what the lawyers
have done to us. The whole concept of "intellectual property" is insane,
really. Can the end users sign the NDA and then get source from you. Is
that possible?
As for demand, you didn't think there'd be demand for something like this?
It's very neat, actually.
Maybe you should contact a MFJ or someone like that to mass produce these..
if you could, for example get $25/unit for AMSAT-UK you'd be doing great in
the process.
Fred W0FMS
Jan 3, 2011 09:05:41 AM, amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
===========================================
On Mon, 2011-01-03 at 09:29 +0000, Howard Long wrote:
> The extreme demand was not what we expected I'm afraid. Please
> understand that to make these I have to personally invest several
> thousand dollars up front, and I want to have close control over the
> first units to make sure there is nothing that means a mass recall.
Don't get me wrong, I'm really *really* glad you're shifting units. It
makes it all worthwhile when you see those orders come in. What was it,
just under a minute until the last batch sold out?
> Regarding your comments about the NDA, this only applies to the device
> itself, in particular the tuner chip. This is very common in this area
> of semiconductors. It does not apply to host software, where source
> code is available already across windows, Linux and Mac OSX.
Okay, but how can we write software for it without access to the spec
for the chip?
> Remember that a proportion of the purchase price of the Pro model goes
> to supporting AMSAT. The educational outreach version will be
> significantly cheaper.
While I'd like to donate
> The NDA does not mean that the interface specs cannot be published. I
> have made available several example programs with source code. Already
> people other than me have developed software for the FCD. Someone has
> already written a Hamlib interface for example. The disclosure model
> is no different to, say, the excellent SDR IQ.
There *are* sample programs, but none of them appear to build in Linux.
Maybe I'm missing something. I got somewhere with the Qt version, but
it moans about libusb not being installed. Why it can't see libusb
sitting there happily in /lib/ is beyond me.
> Regarding Linux support and drivers, the FCD was designed to work out
> of the box without any additional drivers in Linux, OSX and Windows.
> This is expressly mentioned right on the FUNcube Dongle home page.
Well, if it uses class-compliant devices then great - that *does* make
it all a bit easier.
> Initially I had no intention of providing cross platform host
> software, leaving it to others. However after some quite vocal
> communications from the Mac and Linux communities I provided some
> cross platform example code. Bear in mind that the last time i wrote
> anything for the Mac was 20 years ago and for Linux perhaps about 10
> years ago. I spent three weeks getting myself up to speed and making
> this work. It is interesting that the demographic stats of this
> accessing the FUNcube Dongle website shows only 4.6% are Linux users.
Well, if the software doesn't run in Linux then people won't use it in
Linux. If there was enough documentation to let me write software to
support it, then I'd buy one as soon as they next became available.
Gordon MM0YEQ
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2011 12:59:51 +0100
From: Thomas Frey <th.frey@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: [eu-amsat] Re: IR0CK in sat band ?
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Luc Leblanc schrieb:
> On 2 Jan 2011 at 14:15, f6htj@xxx.xxx wrote:
>
> Date sent: Sun, 02 Jan 2011 14:15:45 -0500
> From: f6htj@xxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] IR0CK in sat band ?
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>
>
>> Hello all and HNY.
>>
>> There seems to be an Italian repeater inside 2m satellite band (145.850
MHz) :
>>
>>
http://www.ondatelematica.it/joomla/index.php/ponti-ripetitori-/69-ripetitore-
ir0ck-r10-145850-600-sub-67
>>
>> maybe on air as satellite gateway ?
>>
>> 73 de Michel F6HTJ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I posted this message to the EU-AMSAT YAHOO DISCUSSION GROUP too. Our
Italian satellite op's friends will be inform (If it's not already
> done) but amateur communications affairs are conducted differently in EU
including Italy. BTW could be Ruby can be of some help here:)
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
Hello and a Happy New Year
A local repeater with an output frequency between 145.800 and 146 MHz
violates the IARU 1 band plan. Any years ago a repeater in HB9 on
145.800 MHz had to be moved downwards because of interferences into
the satellite band.
There is no discussussion, IR0CK has to be switched off, until a new
channel is coordinated by ARI.
--
Mit freundlichen Gr?ssen, Regards, 73
Thomas Frey, HB9SKA
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Thomas Frey, Holzgasse 2, CH-5242 Birr, Tel. + Fax: 056 444 93 41
http://home.datacomm.ch/th.frey/
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