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Today's Topics:

   1.  more about the TH-D72A for satellites
      (n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
   2. Re: Log Book of the World and HO-68 (Bruce Semple)
   3. Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   4. Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   5. Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   6.  PacComm Spirit-2 (Richard Lawn)
   7.  TH-D72A for satellites (and everything else) (Robert Bruninga)
   8.  Antenna resurrection (John)
   9.  The AO-7 log. (John Hackett)
  10. 2 WEEKS LEFT - 1st IAA Conference on University Satellites
      Missions and Cubesat Conference in Roma abstract deadline
      submission (Group of Astrodynamics)
  11. Re: Log Book of the World and HO-68 (Scott Richardson)
  12. Re: Kenwood TH-D72a (Clint Bradford)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 15:24:22 -0500
From: <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  more about the TH-D72A for satellites
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <1E10B61E5AD74964B1394BE371535427@xxxx>
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Anyone know if the 9k6 KISS mode TNC works on this model?  It was busted in
the TH-D7...

73,
Mike, N1JEZ
AMSAT 29649
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"




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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 15:34:27 -0500
From: Bruce Semple <bruce.semple@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Log Book of the World and HO-68
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Katherine, KA1RWY Allison" <kallison@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0LD000225X5KARD0@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Kerry -
Thanks for posting the instructions - and thanks to Kathy at ARRL for
fixing the config file ---
Now I don't get that annoying little message every time I upload!

Thanks again!

Bruce
WA3SWJ



At 07:48 PM 12/4/2010, KERRY LA*DUKE wrote:
>All,
>
>      Logging HO-68 on LOTW works but requires updating the
> configuration file.  Here are instructions sent me from Kathy at
> ARRL LOTW.  The current version of  TrustedQSL  is 1.13.  With the
> configuration file updated, HO-68 shows up in the satellites list.
>
>73
>WC7V
>Kerry
>
>
>To have the TrustedQSL program accept the HO-68 satellite, please do
>the following to update your TrustedQSL program in your computer.
>
>1.    Log into your LoTW account
>
>2.    Click on YOUR ACCOUNT
>
>3.    Click on Your  Certificates
>
>4.    Click on Download current TQSL configuration file
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:41:31 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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Hi Ed!

> I'm sure there a lot of us interested in what you find out using the new
> radio.

Thanks for the encouragement.  So far, nobody has told me to keep
quiet.  ;-)  I'm getting more packet and APRS questions in private e-mail,
and can't really answer many of them other than the D72 works to
transmit my location to an APRS digi network.  I'm still a novice with APRS,
and haven't done much with packet except to send some data through the
ISS digipeater in almost 15 years!

> ?My last ham HT was a TH-D7A, which I reluctantly sold back to the
> person I bought it from (he was donating it to "doctors without borders").
> ?I used it a little on AO27 and UO18, though I used my FT-817 more. ?I liked
> the fact it was packet ready and satellite ready. ?The TH-D72 with embedded
> GPS looks like a real winner.

I have two FT-817NDs, and those will definitely continue to be used as a
big part of my portable satellite station.  A TH-F6A is another recent
addition, which can serve as a backup all-mode receiver and an FM (plus
maybe CW) transmitter.  I wish I would have had a true full-duplex HT for
some of the stops I made on my Canada trip a few months ago, where an HT
was the only way to get on the birds at certain locations.

> BTW for those having cost-phobia the original TH-D7 cost $395. ?I do not
> have a HT, now.....maybe?
> It would be nice for air-travel w/ headset and mag-mount whip.

Thanks for the reminder about that price.  I knew it was relatively expensive
in its day as a new radio, which was probably why I did not have one way
back when.

I know that a $500 radio in 2010 pesos is still not cheap, despite all the
extra bells and whistles, so I don't fault anyone for citing cost as a reason
to not get one.  Maybe more D7s in good condition will hit the used market
that can be put on the satellites, as more move up to the D72.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:54:26 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTikr3CX9GKQ-HW-x9a+1NVDVJmRKd=3SDtvPyj_K@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Alan!

> Great preliminary report. ?One question. ?I haven't been able to locate the
> size of the stock battery. ?The accessory is an 1800 MaH battery. ?Is that
> the typical larger battery, or just a spare the same size? ?A friend who is
> more interested in the APRS side asked me.

There is - so far - only one rechargeable battery pack for this radio: the
PB-45L, 7.4V/1800 mAh.  The accessory pack is the same model and
capacity as what came with the radio.

I give credit to Kenwood for not saddling the radio with a smaller battery
pack like Yaesu has done with the VX-8 series, and then offering the
higher-capacity battery as an accessory.  It might be up to someone like
Maha or Batteries America to come out with an after-market battery pack
with still larger capacity.  Or maybe Kenwood will do that in the future.
Kenwood has done that with the TH-F6A; originally it came with a
7.4V/1550 mAh pack, but the new one I just picked up last month came
with a Kenwood 7.4V/2000 mAh pack.

> As for myself, I would like one, but I have a full up Flex-VU5K and a new
> HDTV on order, so enough expensive toys, at least until Dayton.

Do you have the VHF/UHF module for your Flex radio?  ;-)

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 14:03:26 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: more about the TH-D72A for satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTimchq1YCm+PaEsOJoxa6_LaiC71d9eZSwkeHi7Z@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Bob!

> My understanding is that unlike the THD7, the D72 can only
> operate full duplex as noted above RX-A and TX-B. ?But either
> band can be VHF or UHF, so you can operate mode B or J, but the
> TX is always from B.

You are 100% correct.

I downloaded both D72 manuals from the Kenwood web site during my
lunch, and that is exactly how the full duplex mode is described.
Transmit with VFO B, receive with VFO A - as long as the two VFOs are
not set to the same band.

73!






Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:05:46 -0500
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  PacComm Spirit-2
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTim9C_hOEkmsE049mSZ-7EkgRcjuVhT7MgWT5KzJ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Just to let everyone know that I sold this item. Thanks for all the interest
and it went to the highest bidder who met my price. Still have the Mirage
D1010 70cm amp for sale.
TNX
Rick
W2JAZ


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 20:18:23 -0500
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  TH-D72A for satellites (and everything else)
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <3E1042FD72AE41369D74E258AA39C522@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> I know that a $500 radio.. is still not cheap,

I would tend to rephrase the above sentence more like this:

...$500 for a dual band full duplex Satelliite radio PLUS a
built in 1200 and 9600 baud TNC, PLUS 600 pages of built-in TEXT
and DATA information DISPLAY on the nearest 100 ham radio
information transmissions, PLUS a text and Email storage of the
last 100 text/email messages PLUS text entry keypad for ISS and
the many APRS satellites and Email PLUS a built-in GPS... All
completelly self-contained is ... Cheap!

Remember, the primary purpose of the APRS Radio was NEVER
vehicle tracking.  It was to provide the handheld and mobile
operator an information CAPTURE and DISPLAY system and a single
continent wide data channel for keeping the operator informed of
everything going on in ham radio in his immediate area instantly
(10 minute refresh). Notice:  RECEIVE AND DISPLAY DATA, Not just
TX your GPS coordinates that no one cares about.

As a Traveler or Visitor, just turn on the radio, and in 10
minutes you should capture (wherever you are) all of the
following information:

1) The frequency, tone and offset of the locally recommended
travelers Voice repeater

2) The date and time of the weekly net on that repeater

3) The day of the month of that club's meetings

4) The freq, tone, offset, and node number of Echolink and IRLP
nodes

5) Same for Winlink, Wires, and D-Star nodes

6) Any local special meeting notices

7) The location and date of any HAMfests in the area this month

8) Any traffic problems, wrecks, fires or whatever

9) The speed of traffic past locally designated choke points

10) The direction and distance to any AMSATS in view once a
minute

11) The up/dnlink freq & DOPPLER of said satellites in view
every minute

12) A Schedule of AOS of any other satellities in the next 80
minutes

13) The ability to receive text messages from any other ham on
the planet in real time from their APRS, their PC, or their
smart phone or blackberry

14) The ability to send text messages and/or Email to any other
ham on the planet

15) and oh, by the way, the location of all APRS mobiles nearby.

16) And the current repeater FREQ and TONE they are on!

Oh, and the POSITION, direction and distance to every one of the
above from your present location.

The sad truth is that 99% of ham radio operators are only aware
of #15 and ignore all the rest.  They have been completely
misslead about APRS in thinking it is only a vehcile tracking
system.  Since I don't really care where most other people are
most of the time,(#15) then I can fully understand why most of
them don't care either.  Hence, only the 1% of hams interested
in #15 use APRS... And since they are only interestd in #15,
they do not make any effort to support the other 16 and the
other 99% of hams.

The sad result is that VERY FEW AREAS are actually then putting
out all the info #1 through #14 because none of the other 99% of
ham radio operators keeps asking them WHERE IS IT?

The APRS radio is supposed to be your real-time front-panel info
resource in your hand or in your car.  Kenwood gets it.  Yaesu
gets it.  But 99% of hams don't get it.

See about #1,2,3,4,5 and 6: www.aprs.org/localinfo.html
See about hamfests: www.aprs.org/hamfest.html
See about #8 & #9: www.aprs.org/traffic.html
See about #10,#11 and #12: www.aprs.org/astars.html (70% down
the page)
See about all of the above: www.aprs.org/APRS-tactical.html

Or see the sept 2008 article in QST, "Maximizing the Mobile
Motorist Mission.

If you are not seeing this data on any of your eight APRS
radios: D7, D700, D710, D72, FTM350, VX8R, VX8DR, VX8GR then get
on the air in YOUR area and ask the local APRS Digipeater SYSOPs
why not?

And if you really want to see where we have been headed for the
last decade, then see: www.aprs.org/avrs.html

Our ultimate goal is global ham-to-ham TEXT and/or VOICE using
CALLSIGN only and using ANY radio, ANY wireless device, or any
PC. (in addition to providing the INFORMATION resources above.

Bob, WB4APR



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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 18:24:27 -0500
From: "John" <ns1zjohn@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Antenna resurrection
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8935563ABB2F407DBA99CF68B22B1F8F@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I recently picked up the Cushcraft Satellite pair: the 738XB and 22XB.
These are circular antennas with a switch unit to change polarity. Well,
they turned out to not be quite what was described. The switches on both
antennas appear to be bad. I managed to remove the 2 meter unit and
seperated the relay. The coil is burnt out. The PC board seems to be
intact with little if any damage. Haven't had the courage to attack the
70cm on yet.

Any source for the relay for this pair? Maybe original parts source for
relays and the phasing harnesses. I would like to get some use out of
this if it is possible.

Thanks for your insight.

NS1Z / EL99bf
John Wilcox
Silver Springs, FL



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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 12:04:40 +0100
From: John Hackett <archie.hackett@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  The AO-7 log.
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <SNT104-W525DD53B06FB1B81E1DAF6912B0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


To whom it may concern.

The AO-7 Resource Page Log is no longer being administered..

73 John.   <la2qaa@xxxxx.xxx>
 		 	   		

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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 13:25:48 +0100
From: Group of Astrodynamics <gauss.group@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2 WEEKS LEFT - 1st IAA Conference on University
Satellites Missions and Cubesat Conference in Roma abstract deadline
submission
To: undisclosed-recipients:;
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Dear all,

this is a reminder of the deadline of the abstract submission for the 1st
IAA Conference on University Satellites Missions and Cubesat Conference
which will be held in Roma on January 24-29, 2011. Submissions are due by
December 18th.

We remember you that early registration closes on January, 10th. Those who
register before this date will have a discount on the quote.

The conference is organized by GAUSS (Gruppo di Astrodinamica
dell'Universit? degli Studi Sapienza - Group of Astrodynamics of Sapienza
University), a team of professors, students and researchers from the School
of Aerospace Engineering of Sapienza University of Roma. The Conference is
supported by several authorities (the International Academy of Astronautics
(IAA), the European Space Agency (ESA)), companies (Kosmotras), research
centres (the Von Karman Institute (VKI), the Centro Ricerche Progetto San
Marco) and universities (Sapienza Universit? di Roma, Morehead State
University).

Two days of the Conference will be entirely dedicated to the Winter Session
of the Cubesat Workshop, for the first time in Europe.

ESA scholarships for students who will present a work are available. For
those interested, please follow the instructions on the website:

ESA
scholarships<http://www.gaussteam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=articl
e&id=111&Itemid=214>

We have reached an agreement with two hotels for the accommodation of the
participants at very low prices. You can find all the information at the
following link:

Accommodation<http://www.gaussteam.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=artic
le&id=109&Itemid=211>

Programme and further information can be found at

www.gaussteam.com

under the section 'events'.

We hope to see you in Roma in January!

--
Gruppo di Astrodinamica Universit? degli Studi Sapienza
Via Salaria, 851
00138 Roma

website: www.gaussteam.com
tel. 0039 06 88346436


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 23:22:09 -0500
From: "Scott Richardson" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Log Book of the World and HO-68
To: "KERRY LA*DUKE" <kladuke1144@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Katherine, KA1RWY Allison" <kallison@xxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <71F8FCD369C74020B4B231C69388B154@xxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

> Logging HO-68 on LOTW works

Hurray! Thanks for posting instructions, Kerry -- and thanks for your QSLs
via LoTW.

73, Scott N1AIA



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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 06 Dec 2010 23:05:53 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Kenwood TH-D72a
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <DD5733E2-32BF-492A-BC6F-9FC65C0BEE2B@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

BOB>> ... I would tend to rephrase the above sentence ...

What an excellent post, Bob!

YES - The new Kenwood HT with all its capabilities is a value at US$500.

And YES, APRS is much more than spitting out my coordinates every five
minutes while driving around town.

But from where I am coming from - advising audiences who have never worked a
satellite before that they probably already own the equipment necessary to
work them AND showing them how to accomplish it - I'll have trouble getting
behind the 'D72a for that specific crowd as a "must-have" device.

I'd like Kenwood to do what Yaesu did with their VX-8R: Offer a separate HT
without some of the major (expensive) features, and get true dual-band
capability to "us" at a lower price point.

But I'm not running the world ... (grin)

Clint, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com


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