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Today's Topics:
1. Re: NA1ISS (Angelo Glorioso)
2. Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once they are
launched Nov. 19th!! (Tee Dubb)
3. New sat's experiences ? (PA3GUO)
4. Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once they are
launched Nov. 19th!! (Tee Dubb)
5. AO27 & SO50 Mutual Window, Possible QRM? (Rick Tejera)
6. Re: New sat's experiences ? (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
7. FASTRACK object numbers (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
8. new sats (jerry)
9. FASTRAC + O/OREOS (Nader Omer)
10. FASTRAC Updates! (Sebastian Mu?oz)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:14:37 +0000
From: Angelo Glorioso <n5uxt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NA1ISS
To: <pfarcon@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY138-W22B7267640A8C4D724FC28ED3B0@xxx.xxx>
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Patrick,
The Wife and myself worked Commander Wheelock yesterday evening. He will
there for only a week or so before
returning home. Catch him fast.
73 de Angelo
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If you don't ask, you will never know!!
> From: pfarcon@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 18:09:19 -0500
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NA1ISS
>
> If I may add my two cents:
>
> After checking on http://Oscar.dcarr.org it appears that the ISS has been
active on voice between 21:00 and 22:00 utc lately. Commander Wheelock seems
to get into patterns of availability on the radio but of course it depends
on time available on the space station.
>
> I used that as a guideline and found an excellent pass that fit in the
timeframe such as that when I had made my contact back in June or July.
>
> Of course there is a chance on any decent pass that you may catch him on
the frequencies you mentioned.
>
> I hope that his successors up there continue to be active after he returns
to Earth at the end of the month I believe. Of course there is always packet
and APRS but a voice contact is always amazing.
>
> Http://www.issfanclub.com is also a site that has a wealth of information
that may be helpful.
>
> Good luck and enjoy!
>
> Pat
> N2VYT
> FN20un
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 06:26:45 -0800 (PST)
From: Tee Dubb <tdub20120@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites
once they are launched Nov. 19th!!
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Sebastian Mu?oz
<smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>, lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <139874.64947.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Guys:
I apologize if I'm replying incorrectly to the board - I have only read up
until
now.? I will gladly respond to suggestions.
I attempted to take the sep vector posted on the web
(http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/users/phpBB3/predictedorbit.
php)
and turn it into a text file for use in HRD Sat Tracker, but had no immediate
joy.
Before I fool around for a couple hours trying to get something to work, has
anyone else plugged the TLEs into HRD Sat Tracker, or is there an online
resource?? I see Bruninga's reference to SATPC, but I do not have that
installed
on this PC.
I look forward to at least finding a dang beacon - decoding AFSK will be a
challenge as I do not routinely attempt such things.? I'll take an ELK log
periodic and aim it when I get tracking sw working.? I'll be listening with a
Yaesu FT897.
Thanks for the help, and congrats to all on a great launch.? I guess it's
Minotaur/Kodiak 1, and NRO/NASA/KSC 0 as far as recent launch attempts.
Tom
KJ4EAW
?
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Sebastian Mu?oz <smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>; lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 9:24:52 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once they
are launched Nov. 19th!!
Congratulations on making it to this point. The next week I'm sure will
be full of anticipation waiting for that rocket to lift off!
One of the things I think is so great about your project, from what I
have read and been told, is that you've incorporated a secondary amateur
two-way digipeater capability into your satellites. As I understand it,
you plan to operate this after your primary mission is completed? It
might be a great motivation to the AMSAT folks on amsat-bb to hear some
details of this planned operation, as I'm sure others like myself are
particularly interested in helping out student satellites that give back
to the community. With so many new student satellites, it's rare to see
one that may eventually be open for everyone to use, and that is to be
commended and rewarded with support. So, if you don't mind, let the
folks at amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx know what your plans are in this regard.
On a separate note, I've started and entry on the AMSAT-NA satellite
status pages for FASTRAC-1 and -2
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/futures.php), and hope to
fill in the details over the next few days. Please, once your satellites
reach orbit and operate, apply for an OSCAR number from AMSAT-NA and
join the fleet of amateur radio satellites
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/futures.php). I'll also ask
that your Keplerian elements get included in the AMSAT distribution
list. Please let me know if there is anything else the amateur community
can do to help.
73, and good luck,
Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:03:51 +0100
From: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New sat's experiences ?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Just to cheer up others with poor results - you're not alone :-)
FASTRAC downlink at 145.825: ISS + other QRM and clearly my 9k6 is not
sensitive.
Quite a few packets heard, nothing decoded. Here I (my station) clearly
failed.
FASTRAC & O/OREOS downlink at 437: lot of QRM (50Hz humm, 50 KHz wide at
437.320)
O/OREOS: Yes I did hear it, 4 second packet period interfal, but I could not
decode.
Others (eg DK3WN) have better results. Seems 4 KHz above official freq, all
the time,
so I assume its not due to the keplerset (else that would not be 4 khz all
the time ?)
Your experiences ?
Mike: what does your SDR analysis say wrt the frequency ?
O/OREOS keplerset: accepted by HRD (go to keplers, click add file (next to
the list of
URLs and upload the keplerset manually. But: I suspect it to be invalid,
some programs
do not accept the O/OREOS keplerset, HRD only accepted after I turned off
the checksum check.
Anyway lot of new signals to hunt for.
(and 145.825 will become VERY busy)
Looking forward to hear you results !
-
Henk, PA3GUO (after a VERY short night)
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 08:30:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Tee Dubb <tdub20120@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites
once they are launched Nov. 19th!!
To: Sebastian Mu?oz <smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>, lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx
Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <453692.35154.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Oops.? Attached the file this time.
----- Original Message ----
From: Tee Dubb <tdub20120@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Sebastian Mu?oz <smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>; lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 11:28:35 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once
they are launched Nov. 19th!!
Thanks to Alan Biddle and Davind Barber for TLE files!
The attached one ingested into HRD for me, no in-views yet, so can not yet
report successful downlink.
Thanks,
Tom
KJ4EAW
----- Original Message ----
From: Tee Dubb <tdub20120@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; Sebastian Mu?oz
<smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>; lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:26:45 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once they
are launched Nov. 19th!!
Guys:
I apologize if I'm replying incorrectly to the board - I have only read up
until
now.? I will gladly respond to suggestions.
I attempted to take the sep vector posted on the web
(http://fastrac.ae.utexas.edu/for_radio_operators/users/phpBB3/predictedorbit.
php)
and turn it into a text file for use in HRD Sat Tracker, but had no immediate
joy.
Before I fool around for a couple hours trying to get something to work, has
anyone else plugged the TLEs into HRD Sat Tracker, or is there an online
resource?? I see Bruninga's reference to SATPC, but I do not have that
installed
on this PC.
I look forward to at least finding a dang beacon - decoding AFSK will be a
challenge as I do not routinely attempt such things.? I'll take an ELK log
periodic and aim it when I get tracking sw working.? I'll be listening with a
Yaesu FT897.
Thanks for the help, and congrats to all on a great launch.? I guess it's
Minotaur/Kodiak 1, and NRO/NASA/KSC 0 as far as recent launch attempts.
Tom
KJ4EAW
?
----- Original Message ----
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Sebastian Mu?oz <smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>; lightsey@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxxx Amsat-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Mon, November 15, 2010 9:24:52 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Please help us Track the FASTRAC satellites once they
are launched Nov. 19th!!
Congratulations on making it to this point. The next week I'm sure will
be full of anticipation waiting for that rocket to lift off!
One of the things I think is so great about your project, from what I
have read and been told, is that you've incorporated a secondary amateur
two-way digipeater capability into your satellites. As I understand it,
you plan to operate this after your primary mission is completed? It
might be a great motivation to the AMSAT folks on amsat-bb to hear some
details of this planned operation, as I'm sure others like myself are
particularly interested in helping out student satellites that give back
to the community. With so many new student satellites, it's rare to see
one that may eventually be open for everyone to use, and that is to be
commended and rewarded with support. So, if you don't mind, let the
folks at amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx know what your plans are in this regard.
On a separate note, I've started and entry on the AMSAT-NA satellite
status pages for FASTRAC-1 and -2
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/futures.php), and hope to
fill in the details over the next few days. Please, once your satellites
reach orbit and operate, apply for an OSCAR number from AMSAT-NA and
join the fleet of amateur radio satellites
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/futures.php). I'll also ask
that your Keplerian elements get included in the AMSAT distribution
list. Please let me know if there is anything else the amateur community
can do to help.
73, and good luck,
Drew KO4MA
AMSAT-NA VP Operations
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:51:48 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO27 & SO50 Mutual Window, Possible QRM?
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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All,
A question. Friday between 2156 -2201 UT both SO-50 & AO-27 were visible
form my QTH (in fact they had a mutual window somewhere from about 2154-
2214UT). Both birds were in the same area of the sky, so I think it'd be
possible to hit both birds with my antenna pointed towards one of them.
Now for the question, since both bird operate on the same frequencies, (with
SO-50 requiring a PL tone), If I'm working SO-50 Wouldn't someone working
AO27 hear me as well? If they do and reply, Would I hear them from the AO-27
downlink? I know SO-50 wouldn't hear them since there is no PL (Assuming the
other station did not program in a PL).
Also if the other station did have the PL, what would happen if both birds
heard him and repeated the uplink? I imagine there would be some serious QRM
as the signal reach my station out of phase.
If we did hear each other and completed a QSO, I can imagine the confusion
when QSL's are exchanged....
Just wondering.
Clear Skies
Rick Tejera
Editor SACnews,
Public Outreach Coordinator
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
www.saguaroastro.org <http://www.saguaroastro.org/>
saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 12:54:02 EST
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New sat's experiences ?
To: pa3guo@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1789a.7c800a3e.3a19653a@xxx.xxx>
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Hi Henk,
I regret to say I also had similar experiences using my TS-2000 today at my
QTH in South Wales (UK)
This morning was also a problem due to the ISS being very active on the
same frequency during the pass
and I got rather confused.
Later on this afternoon I monitored and the packet bursts from the
satellite were quite strong but had no success in decoding them sadly.
I have to add though the signals were quite strong and could be monitored
and heard using either a THD-7
handheld or a THD 700 and only an Arrow antenna.
Glad to see that Mike has his usual success together with others reporting
in to the BBS.
Not yet submitted any report to the project web site but my congratulations
to all the team, support and sponsors. Glad to see your time and efforts
rewarded - Thanks for the new additions to the hobby.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat-UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 18:37:47 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FASTRACK object numbers
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4CE8157B.90103@xxxxx.xxx>
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Here are the object numbers but, so far, no keps.
37222 STPSAT 2 (USA 217) 2010-062A
37223 RAX (USA 218) 2010-062B
37224 O/OREOS (USA 219) 2010-062C
37225 FASTSAT-HSV01 (USA 220) 2010-062D
37226 FALCONSAT 5 (USA 221) 2010-062E
37227 FAST 1 (USA 222) 2010-062F
37228 MINOTAUR IV R/B 2010-062G
37229 HAPS R/B 2010-062H
37230 BALLAST A 2010-062J
37231 BALLAST B 2010-062K
--
Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx
www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC,
GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 10:49:56 -0600
From: "jerry" <jkboxk@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] new sats
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7C480A04104B4400AA441452E8DEC5A1@xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Is there a tracking map yet for the new sats. ?
Jerry WB5LHD
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 11:19:01 -0800 (PST)
From: Nader Omer <st2nh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FASTRAC + O/OREOS
To: amsat bb bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <196681.94732.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Hi
FASTRAC keps elements worked very well with HRD.
?
I?ve Used HRD for Doppler correction to RX O/OREOS, Also I've heard a very
strong FASTRAC? Beacon at 145.825 .
?
O/OREOS?was pumping a very strong signal, Decoded?with?sound card software
UISS and Multipsk . See a movie clip at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pyY4NwScJ4
?
73, Nader
?
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 13:59:36 -0600
From: Sebastian Mu?oz <smunoztoro@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FASTRAC Updates!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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I want to thank everybody that has helped us track FASTRAC as we have gotten
confirmation from multiple sources that they are both working beaconing and
that the satellites are crosslinking. We were also able to hear a couple of
beacons at our station this morning and will attempt to contact them again
this afternoon on our next pass.
Thanks a lot, 73,
Sebastian (KE5FKV)
FASTRAC Student Program Manager
--
Sebastian Mu?oz Toro
Graduate Research Assistant
The University of Texas at Austin
Department of Aerospace Engineering and Engineering Mechanics
Satellite Design Laboratory
email: sebastian_munoz@xxxx.xxxxxx.xxx
phone: +1 (512) 471-5144
cell: +1 (512) 825-3857
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