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Today's Topics:
1. The sea water antenna (Bruce)
2. Office Closed (Martha)
3. Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT (Rick Tejera)
4. Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT (Kent Frazier)
5. Unable to work the ISS with OpenTracker+ (hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xxx
6. Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT (Jeremy Kiehner)
7. Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT (Andrew Glasbrenner)
8. Re: Unable to work the ISS with OpenTracker+ (TOF, HS0NNU)
9. Working the Transponder Sats (Kent Frazier)
10. Re: Working the Transponder Sats (Andrew Glasbrenner)
11. Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT (k8kfj@xxx.xxxx
12. IC-251A for sale (Bob- W7LRD)
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 09 Nov 2010 14:00:41 -0600
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] The sea water antenna
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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This is really neat. Now, if Howard, G6LVB, can come up with some ham
wizardry.
73...bruce
From the BVARC reflector....
The sea water antenna. Your tax dollars at work ;)
_http://www.public.navy.mil/spawar/Pacific/TechTransfer/ProductsServices/Pages
/SeaWaterAntennaSystem.aspx_
Billy R. Jones, N5EVD
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 15:44:10 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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The AMSAT Office will be closed on Thursday, November 11 in observance of
Veterans' Day.
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73- Martha
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 16:07:33 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
To: <n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm reasonably certain I'll work him again, so there shouldn't be any
scandal in my VUCC.
And with that I will now withdraw from this thread.
Clear Skies
Rick Tejera
Editor SACnews,
Public Outreach Coordinator
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
www.saguaroastro.org
saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 6:32
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always
thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
Jerry
N0JY
> Hey! Rick you contacted famous Loren K7CWQ in CN94 from Oregon!!!!!
>
> 73's Larry KI6YAA
>
> On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 8:39 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>> Worked AO51 this evening, a pretty quiet pass, had some time to actually
>> talk! Myself & Dave Kb5WIA work a station with call K7TWQ in CN94. When
>> I
>> went to log him in I could not find his call in any of the usual DB's,
>> Dave
>> also could not find him. We both tried several variations on the theme
>> but
>> no soap. If you're out there and we got your call wrong or if anyone
>> knows
>> who we worked, please let us know. CN94 is a new grid for me, I'd like
>> to
>> get it in the book.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Clear Skies
>>
>> Rick Tejera
>> Editor SACnews,
>> Public Outreach Coordinator
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>> Phoenix, Arizona
>> www.saguaroastro.org <http://www.saguaroastro.org/>
>> saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
>> K7TEJ, AMSAT 38452
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 09:40:43 -0600
From: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to
write down ANY information during a contact.
I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened
to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.
The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm
not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a
very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups.
One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the
"big guns".
I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting
back on the birds.
Kent, K5KNT
On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> wrote:
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> >From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
> >Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM
> >To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
> >
> >I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
> >get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
> >the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
> >correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always
> >thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
> >over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
> >
> >Jerry
> >N0JY
> >
>
> In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit.
> If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange
> another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not
> cool.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:14:40 +0000 (GMT)
From: "hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xxx <hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to work the ISS with OpenTracker+
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello
Since days I try to work the ISS DIGI, without any result ! There is no
respond!
It looks like the item: APOTC1
in the following string creates the problem for
the ISS DIGI.
HB9TSO/APRS/ARISS>APOTC1>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud):
Has
anyone experienced a simillar problem?
Are ther other tracker which work?
Terrestrical APRS is no problem.
Very nice
regards
Rolf / HB9TSO
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:43:31 -0500
From: Jeremy Kiehner <kb3dlp@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
To: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <CE717E95-0347-4AD8-8D0D-1F265804747A@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds. I have two
hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic, I'd need two more
to hold pen and paper. I'd think so long as the QSL is two way confirmed
there's no harm. Regardless how it's logged.
Sent from my iPhone
On Nov 9, 2010, at 10:40 AM, Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
>
> I operate handheld (using an Icom w32a and an Elk antenna) I'm unable to
> write down ANY information during a contact.
> I'd hate to think I'm somehow disqualified from an award because I listened
> to my recordings to log my contacts after the pass is over.
>
> The OP only missed the call by one character, and they sound similar. I'm
> not sure what equipment both parties were using, but I remember having a
> very hard time making out calls with my gear. Especially on AO-51 pileups.
> One of the reasons I quit for awhile is I got tired of competing with the
> "big guns".
>
> I've been off the air for about a year now. I'm looking forward to getting
> back on the birds.
>
> Kent, K5KNT
>
> On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 07:45, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: n0jy@xxxxxxx.xxx
>>> Sent: Nov 9, 2010 8:32 AM
>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
>>>
>>> I may be hated for this but I have to ask, if you make a contact and you
>>> get the call wrong so you would not get a QSL card because you can't mail
>>> the right person is it really fair to use another medium to search out the
>>> correct call in order to secure the contact for award reasons? I always
>>> thought the QSO had to be a successful exchange of at least the call signs
>>> over the air to count as a contact. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>> N0JY
>>>
>>
>> In my opinion you are 100% correct. Make a second contact to make it legit.
>> If you just want to find the right call for your own reasons or to arrange
>> another contact, cool. If you want to use the busted QSO for an award, not
>> cool.
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 22:12:00 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
To: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<30510304.1289358720635.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
-----Original Message-----
>From: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Nov 9, 2010 10:40 AM
>To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
>
>Would this apply to using a digital voice recorder also, in your opinion?
>
Of course not, no more than writing it down would, but I think you know that.
73, Drew KO4MA
PS If you want to avoid competing with others on satellite, may I suggest
the transponder satellites? Hope to hear you on soon.
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 21:32:45 -0800 (PST)
From: "TOF, HS0NNU" <hs0nnu@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Unable to work the ISS with OpenTracker+
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <665883.73273.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hi?Rolf
Try only ARISS in your PATH.
73's de Toff
HS0NNU
--- On Wed, 11/10/10, hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xx <hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
From: hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xx <hb9tso@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to work the ISS with OpenTracker+
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 3:14 AM
Hello
Since days I try to work the ISS DIGI, without any result ! There is no
respond!
It looks like the item: APOTC1
in the following string creates the problem for
the ISS DIGI.
HB9TSO/APRS/ARISS>APOTC1>UI,?,F0 (1199 baud):
Has
anyone experienced a simillar problem?
Are ther other tracker which work?
Terrestrical APRS is no problem.
Very nice
regards
Rolf / HB9TSO
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:55:26 -0600
From: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Working the Transponder Sats
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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It has been suggested to me that I try the transponder sats. My question is
what type of equipment would I need for this. I'm currently unable to run
any type of mast mounted antenna(s) and would prefer it be portable or
mobile if possible.
My current setup is an Icom W32-A handheld with an Elk antenna. Am I
correct in my belief that I can't work the transponder sats with an FM
radio?
Thanks
--
Kent, K5KNT
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 11:28:04 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working the Transponder Sats
To: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4CDAC814.3030108@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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On 11/10/2010 10:55 AM, Kent Frazier wrote:
> It has been suggested to me that I try the transponder sats. My question is
> what type of equipment would I need for this. I'm currently unable to run
> any type of mast mounted antenna(s) and would prefer it be portable or
> mobile if possible.
>
> My current setup is an Icom W32-A handheld with an Elk antenna. Am I
> correct in my belief that I can't work the transponder sats with an FM
> radio?
>
> Thanks
>
You are correct that FM is a no go for the transponder satellites, with
the exception of using an unmodulated FM signal as CW on the uplink. You
will need some way to transmit and receive on 2m and 70cm SSB or CW.
Personally I use a pair of Yaesu 817s and an Arrow while portable, or
sometimes a single 817 for the downlink and the 857 in my truck for the
uplink. The 817 is probably the most popular for portable satellite
work. There are also many fine, older rigs on the used market. I've seen
two 2m SSB rigs for less than $100 this week on the various swap boards.
For the receive side, you can use most anything that will receive SSB or
CW, including downconverters to a 10m radio, all mode scanner type
receivers, the forthcoming AMSAT-UK Funcube Dongle SDR receiver, or even
the all mode receiver in the Kenwood F6A.
It's even possible to use a single 817 type rig half-duplex, although
it's important to keep your power low, and really helps to have
automatic Doppler tuning set up when half duplex.
The transponders are a much friendlier, slower paced and more sane place
to operate, but there is generally not the activity or diversity of
stations as on FM. On the other hand, you can work some fine DX, have
longer QSOs, and it's more of a challenge.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 13:00:17 -0500 (EST)
From: k8kfj@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
To: kb3dlp@xxxxx.xxxx kent@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <8CD4F184415613E-1214-921@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Kiehner <kb3dlp@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kent Frazier <kent@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:32 am
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 pass this evening 0039UT
> I personally use a recorder to record my contacts via the birds.
> I have two hands, one holding the antenna, the other the speaker mic,
> I'd need two more to hold pen and paper
As I recall, I used a "Y" adapter coming out of the headphone jack.
One side to my earphones, the other to my digital recorder. Made
a quick note of my start and end of pass times. I later logged my
contacts from the recording based on how far into the pass our contact
took place.
73, Gary -K8KFJ-
West Virginia
Sat VUCC #125
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 19:07:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-251A for sale
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx NW VHF <PNWVHFS@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<1260520025.774323.1289416062911.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>
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I have a "surplus" IC-251A 2M?
http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/hammulti/251a.html ?? all mode
transceiver for sale, built in 110V ps.? Listing on these lists before
Ebay.? Asking $200.
73 Bob W7LRD
CN87
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