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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: TM-D710 Odd Splits (Clint Bradford)
   2. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays  quiz! (Chris Bloy)
   3. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays,	quiz! (Joe Leikhim)
   4. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz!
      (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
   5.  Cuploa Photographs (Clint Bradford)
   6. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays  quiz!
      (Tony Langdon)
   7.  NA1SS operations (francesco messineo)
   8. Re: NA1SS operations (Trevor .)
   9.  AO-51 mode change complete 4 Nov 2010 (Mark L. Hammond)
  10. Re: Lake Superior QSL update (Ted)
  11.  More Pictures Of Comet Hartley 2 (B J)
  12. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays  quiz!
      (Bob Bruninga )
  13.  AO-51 (Rick - WA4NVM)
  14.  AO-51 down  5 Nov 2010 (Mark L. Hammond)
  15. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Rocky Jones)
  16. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Tony Langdon)
  17. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays  quiz! (Tom Busch)
  18. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz!
      (Roger Kolakowski)
  19. Did you visit/observe the BoD meeting in Chicago/Elk	Grove?
      (Alan P. Biddle)
  20. BT7AAE XW-1 special event station to be working on	AirShow
      China 2010 (Michael Chen)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 12:19:43 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TM-D710 Odd Splits
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<33516419.1288898383250.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>

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In the manual, under MEMORY, you'll find the steps for "STORING ODD SPLIT"
freqs.

Quite a machine!

Clint, K6LCS



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Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.clintbradford.com


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 19:33:55 -0000
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: "'Tony Langdon'" <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000901cb7c57$39540e00$abfc2a00$@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Tony,

>>Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??
>>
>The R/B _is_ a satellite if it's in orbit around the Earth, and it's non
functional - it became non functional when it finished its job of putting
the satellite into its orbit. :)
>
Hmm, this I guess is true so maybe I need to ensure that I include
operational communications satellite to rule out the R/B etc!

>>"The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational
>>after an amazing 41 years!"
>
>That's impressive!
>
Yes, it amazed me too! There really is some amazing information available
for this hobby!

>>
>>
>>That's a record we want AO-7 to break isn't it?
>
>Would be nice. :)
>
:) Oh yes...! I am yet to make a contact on this old lady, but its coming!
(you listening LA2QAA?)

Chris



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 15:35:31 -0400
From: Joe Leikhim <rhyolite@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays,
quiz!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4CD30B03.3080806@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I got my first taste of satellites listening to ATS-3 with a discone,
wideband tower mounted preamp, and Regency MX-3000 receiver back in
about 1984. There were continual round table discussions by the Bahia
from places like Roatonga.  135.575 MHz I recall.

Does anyone else recall this traffic? Is it still going on?

 From that I started hearing various channels of Fleetsatcom between 250
and 270 MHz, loud and clear with the same setup.

> >"The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
> >amazing 41 years!"
That's impressive!


--
Joe Leikhim

Leikhim and Associates
Communications Consultants
Oviedo, Florida

www.Leikhim.com

JLeikhim@xxxxxxx.xxx

407-982-0446



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:42:50 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20101104134211.00be1370@xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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The moon.

;-)

KB7ADL



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 13:27:17 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Cuploa Photographs
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ARISS-ops OPS <ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <6D422D8A-4D9B-4F87-9F6D-56C14E571E42@xxx.xxx>
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Photo Gallery: Best Space-Station Cupola Views

It's been 10 months since the International Space Station got the Cupola, an
amazing window to the big blue marble below called Earth. Wired Magazine
reviews some of the best images inside the module.

http://feeds.wired.com/~r/wired/index/~3/RECIj8Y17YI


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 07:34:19 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4cd318d1.5907df0a.4592.1498@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 07:42 AM 11/5/2010, Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:


>The moon.
>
>;-)

That thought did cross my mind.  The moon is still working in both
its original role (as stabiliser of the Earth's axis) and as a
passive communications satellite. ;)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:52:29 +0100
From: francesco messineo <francesco.messineo@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  NA1SS operations
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<AANLkTi=QG75UL54nJ3+gKtBNgHAHqLUOhJOJz=ttscVU@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi all,

I've seen spots in the cluster about NA1SS making contacts on VHF
lately. What are the frequency for calling/listening over Europe?
I already worked NA1SS some years ago in the UHF band, I would like to
give it a try on VHF too.
Many thanks and 73

Frank IZ8DWF


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 21:22:06 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NA1SS operations
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <74559.59223.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

--- On Thu, 4/11/10, francesco messineo <francesco.messineo@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> lately. What are the frequency for calling/listening over
> Europe?

Frequencies for IARU Region 1 are 145.800 MHz downlink, 145.200 MHz uplink
FM 5 kHz deviation.

However, I see that it has been reported that 145.800 MHz is being used for
both up and downlink possibly due to a radio fault, see

http://www.issfanclub.com/node/29589

ISS Fan Club
http://www.issfanclub.com/

73 Trevor M5AKA









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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 18:31:01 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 mode change complete 4 Nov 2010
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: ao51-modes@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <TAXL1f00M56cfur05AXUdU@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Mode change has been completed, as per schedule at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/echo/CTNews.php


November 4 (late UTC)

FM Repeater, V/U
Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM (no PL tone)
Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM

and

9k6 Baud PBBS Operations, L/U
Uplink: 1268.705 MHz FM at 9600 baud
Downlink: 435.150 MHz FM at 9600 baud


73,




Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:43:35 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Lake Superior QSL update
To: "'John Papay'" <john@xxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001cb7c71$b9590a00$2c0b1e00$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

John, thank you for my cards and for all your hard work on these expeditions
!!! Truly a gracious effort on your part

73, Ted, K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of John Papay
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:32 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Lake Superior QSL update

All contacts made during my Lake Superior Grid Expedition
have been confirmed direct by mail.  It was quite a project
but it is finally finished.  This includes both USA and DX
contacts.  TI2SW was the first contact made during the expedition
from Tawas, MI (EN84FG) on August 3d.  KI4RDT was the last contact
logged from Ludington, MI (EN63UW) on September 7th. 2069 qso's
were made on 168 passes.  There were about 317 unique callsigns when
the /p's etc. were removed. 32 grids were activated.  We operated from
97 unique 6 character grid locators. (All qsl cards included the 6 character
locator to pin down our location more accurately).

Paper logs were transferred to an excel spreadsheet so there are
possibilities for errors.  If you believe you made a contact and
did not receive a confirmation (and it's a new grid for you), please
email me with the contact particulars and I'll check the logs and/or
the recordings available.

I want to thank all of those who sent a donation to help with the costs
of the qsl's and mailing.  Some sent stamps, both green and USPS types.
It was very much appreciated.  It was great to get on a pass and hear
all of the stations waiting to work me.  I hope that you got through and
worked the grids you needed.  Sometimes we just couldn't stay very long
in a particular spot but we did our best.

Please think about operating the birds when you are away from home.  Many
grids are not represented on the birds regularly so when you do travel,
someone may need the grid you are in.  If you want your grid map listed on
my website, either create an image using the program (details are on the
website) or simply send me a list of your grids confirmed and/or worked
in a text file with one 4 character grid per line.

There are about 750 audio recordings of satellite passes on my website
now.  We should have over 1000 by the end of the year.  It's a great way
to hear what you sound like on the birds. It's also a good way for the new
people to hear what the birds sound like so they know what to expect when
they try to make their first contact.  Please spread the word.

http://www.papays.com/sat

73,
John K8YSE

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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:49:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: B J <top_gun_canada@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  More Pictures Of Comet Hartley 2
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <808689.9866.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://spaceflightnow.com/news/n1011/04epoxigallery1/

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL




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Message: 12
Date: Thu,  4 Nov 2010 23:34:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Bob Bruninga " <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: aprssig@xxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20101104233400.AGI49022@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Depending on how you define "working", one might claim that PCSAT-1 is the
oldest working student built satellite?

I still see successful packets on http://pcsat.aprs.org
Oh, and this week, I notice ISS APRS packets active on every pass...

Bob, WB4APR



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 05:36:09 -0500
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <6FB408D94A1343D596077371D01785E8@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

GM all,

I didn't hear AO-51 on the 1027z pass this morning?  I hope all
is well.  It sounded great last night.

73,
Rick WA4NVM

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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 06:44:08 -0400
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 down  5 Nov 2010
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: ao51-modes@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <TNkS1f00256cfur05NkSaV@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello All,

I just listened for AO-51 and she was down.   The bird is transmitting
telemetry on 435.150 for now.  Give us a few days to get it running again.

73,



Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]



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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 20:57:12 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W43F0DD498F7B6472EEB7D6D64C0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hello Chris...


>
> >> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
> >>
> >Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life, it
> was battery powered.. III?  I dont think that there were enough solar cells
> on it to actually power the bird, but I could be >wrong.  I do listen for
> it.
>
> >
>
> Ah, that's interesting.. I did have a quick check on Space Track via date
> search, but didn't know that III was still there!

Yeap III is still there as is 5...6 and 8 are there as well and one wishes
that they would pull an 7 and come back to life!  It would be great if
Arsene came back as well (while we are wishing!)


>
>
>
> >> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
> >Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit
>
> >
>
> Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??

well its a satellite...I probably knew at one point but dont know...if the
Vanguard rocket third stage had any beacon on it (I doubt it)...



> >> Working commercial satellite still in orbit?
> >Probably one of the 1960's ERG's...but I can check.
> >
>
> From
> http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/tech-head-news-items/140262-oldest-workin
> g-comms-sat.html : (Thanks John LA2QAA)
>
>
>
> "The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
> amazing 41 years!"
>
>
well got me there...

although "working" might be the kicker.  Transit 5B makes "noise" on its
beacon frequency but hasnt done any real "work"...thats 64...

I enjoy tracking whats "up" there...almost as much fun as "communicating".

take care Robert WB5MZO life member Amsat/Arrl
 		 	   		

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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 05:20:25 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4cd2f970.575bdf0a.7f88.0cdb@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 02:13 AM 11/5/2010, Chris Bloy wrote:
>Hi Group,
>
>Ok, so I think I can answer the oldest working Amateur satellite is...
>(AO7!?)

Yep

>Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)

Hmm, unless one of the first 6 birds was in a fairly high orbit, this
would be AO-7.  I'd have to check the history of the first 6
OSCARS.  And I'm not sure when the Russians started putting up the RS
birds either. :)

>Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
>Working commercial satellite still in orbit?

Not there's some good questions. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 17
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 14:57:12 -0400
From: Tom Busch <tom@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <FBD52C89-797F-4420-B2C6-1B58DCB7B2AA@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii



Wait a minute!  The moon is probably 4 to 4.5 billion years old, and is
still operational ;-)

Tom

On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:23 PM, Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> At 03:43 AM 11/5/2010, Chris Bloy wrote:
>> Hi Robert,
>>
>>
>>
>>>> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
>>>>
>>> Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life,
it
>> was battery powered.. III?  I dont think that there were enough solar cells
>> on it to actually power the bird, but I could be >wrong.  I do listen for
>> it.
>
> As I said in my last message, I'd have to check. ;)
>
>>>> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
>>> Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit
>>
>>>
>>
>> Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??
>
> The R/B _is_ a satellite if it's in orbit around the Earth, and it's
> non functional - it became non functional when it finished its job of
> putting the satellite into its orbit. :)
>
>> "The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
>> amazing 41 years!"
>
> That's impressive!
>
>>
>>
>> That's a record we want AO-7 to break isn't it?
>
> Would be nice. :)
>
> 73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
> http://vkradio.com
>
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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 12:33:16 -0400
From: Roger Kolakowski <Rogerkola@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: Chris Bloy <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4CD431CC.3030207@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Technically it is not a "communications satellite"

Roger
WA1KAT

Chris Bloy wrote:
> Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??
>


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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2010 11:43:42 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Did you visit/observe the BoD meeting in
Chicago/Elk	Grove?
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <sarex@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <790D63D75DA341D19223D3019296AAEF@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

We try to keep a list of members who observed the BoD meeting and include it
in the formal report.  However, not everybody signs or even finds the
sign-in sheet.  Below is the list I have.  If you were there but not
recorded, or know of someone who was, drop me a note off list.  I have a
good list of those who participated already.

TNX es 73s,

Alan
WA4SCA
Secretary

Known visitors/observers:

Dale Hershberger, KL7XJ
Sharon D Davis, KJ4YOV
Bob Davis, KF4KSS
Bob McGwier, N4HY
Brian Klofas, KF6ZEO
Craig Bledsoe, KL4E
Dan Schultz, N8FGV
Dave Taylor, W8AAS
Dee Interdonato, NB2F
Doug Quagliana, KA2UPW
Jennifer Rojowski, N8GZL
JoAnne Maenpaa, K9JKM
John Paypay, K8YSE
John Shew, N4QQ
Keith Pugh, W5IU
Larry Brown, W7LB
Mark Hammond, N8MH
Nick Pugh, K5QXJ
Patrick Stoddard, WD9EWK/VA7EWK
Phil Karn, KA9Q




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Message: 20
Date: Sat, 6 Nov 2010 02:14:45 +0800
From: Michael Chen <michael.bd5rv@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BT7AAE XW-1 special event station to be working on
AirShow China 2010
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<AANLkTik6KdNoEZwgkOOx_3aWesoEKq6rif_GQCbkMi1K@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi, Guys,


If you happen to be able to visit AirShow China 2010 in Zhuhai on Nov.
16-21, please visit the XW-1 booth in CAST pavilion. There, you will
meet Alan, BA1DU and I as well as a bunch of members of CAMSAT.
Meanwhile, you can see demonstration of some interesting XW-1 photos
and activities. There will be a special event station set up on the
site with the callsign BT7AAE (Aviation & Aerospace Exhibition) .
We'll be working on all possible satellites passes during the time
frame.

If you can't visit us in Zhuhai. Don't worry, you can join us by
watching live video stream or listening to live audio feed (URL
later). Meanwhile, you can write down all you thoughts and ideas on
twitter with the tag #BT7AAE, all twitter records with this tag will
be displayed on the wall by a projector to all our visitors in real
time during the exhibition, and you are likely to get feed backs from
the site or from the world.

Join us in this event.



Michael Chen, BD5RV/4
AMSAT-China: http://www.camsat.cn
-----------------------------------
Twitter: ?http://twitter.com/bd5rv
Email: ? michael.bd5rv@xxxxx.xxx
MSN: ? ?bd5rv@xxxxx.xxx
Skype: ?michael-bd5rv



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