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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Questions about use of PC104 connector for CubeSat
      (Ryan Caron)
   2.  SO67 (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
   3.  Encounter With Comet Hartley 2010-11-04 (B J)
   4.  Odd Split setup on TM-D710 (Jeff Yanko)
   5. Re: Odd Split setup on TM-D710 (Robert Bruninga)
   6.  Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Chris Bloy)
   7. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Chris Bloy)
   8. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Bob- W7LRD)
   9. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz! (Rocky Jones)
  10. Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays  quiz!
      (Tony Langdon)
  11.  Successful Encounter With Comet Hartley 2 (B J)
  12.  Lake Superior QSL update (John Papay)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:23:28 -0700
From: Ryan Caron <rcaron@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Questions about use of PC104 connector for
CubeSat
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4CD1C4C0.20203@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I'd suggest taking a look at AstroDev's He-100 offering, which uses the
PC-104 card connector.

http://www.astrodev.com/public_html2/downloads/datasheet/HeliumUserManual.pdf

Page 7 has the pinout, Page 20 has placement

I would hesitate to use a board quite as large as that though, as it is
highly optimized for the CubeSatKit, making use in other chassis
difficult. I would suggest a slightly smaller board in line with
Boeing's CS82 board factor. Slide 6 from this year's CubeSat Developer's
Conference @ Cal Poly
http://www.cubesat.org/images/cubesat/presentations/DevelopersWorkshop2010/2_1
400_cs82_chrisday_v1.pdf

Are either of these the golden standard? Not exactly, but it is the
closest thing I've seen to one. Ease of integration and flexibility are
the key to getting your transponder flown.

73,
Ryan Caron
KB1LKI

On 11/3/10 12:00 PM, amsat-bb-request@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 09:30:17 -0700 (PDT)
> From: William Leijenaar<pe1rah@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Questions about use of PC104 connector for CubeSat
> 	boards
> To:amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Message-ID:<844462.5173.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello AMSATs,
>
> Work and home situation kept me away from having any ham time. But
recently I
> had some time to continue with upgrading my LE005 transponder design with a
> PC104
> connector (or is it PCI-104 ?), and some other features;-)
>
> The PC104 is a good choice for having a standardized inter connection
system on
> CubeSat projects. However, I seen some deviation in the placement standard
of
> this PC104 connector.
>
>> From the following website I read:
> http://www.cubesatkit.com/content/electronics/bus.html
>
> "The CubeSat Kit Bus utilizes the same physical connectors as the
> industry-proven
> PC/104 bus, but in an alternate physical location so as to avoid
unintentional
> damage to PC/104 or CubeSat Kit modules."
>
> With my focus on: "...in an alternate physical location..."
>
> I would like to know what this position is, and if this is now "the golden
> standard"
> in CubeSat world ?
>
> My next worry will be the pin configurations. Is there any standard for
CubeSat
> boards ?
>
> Next I would like to know how modules are controlled by the data bus.
> Is it like separate pins for PTT, TX, RX etc...
> Or with more smart communication with lines like: address bus, data bus,
Clock,
> Interrupt lines etc. (similar to old ISA PC cards)
> Or maybe with I2C.
>
> I keep it to these questions for now...
> Next questions will follow out of the answers hihi...
>
> 73 de PE1RAH
> William Leijenaar


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:02:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO67
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<83041272.662824.1288832543397.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxxx
xx.xxx>

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Just worked SO67? and it is loud .next pass almost over Memphis Guys give it
try

WA4HFN Damon em55

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2010 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: B J <top_gun_canada@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Encounter With Comet Hartley 2010-11-04
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <853337.37853.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/epoxi/epoxi20101102.html

This is going to be interesting as it will be the second comet examined by
the Deep Impact spacecraft.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL





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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 01:24:33 -0700
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Odd Split setup on TM-D710
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <ACC4770CE01947C69366EE77D9CF82CA@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi all,

I have a TM-D710 that I use for various communications, including
satellites.  However, I am having one heck of a time trying to get it setup
so that I can at least make an attempt to work NA1SS, the space station.  It
uses an odd split frequency scheme but I haven't been able to set it up for
such a split.  I follow the instructions in the manual and still to no
avail, so I'm pretty sure I know I'm getting it wrong.

Please contact me off -bb and any help will be greatly appreciated.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS







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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 10:34:16 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Odd Split setup on TM-D710
To: "'Jeff Yanko'" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <549330730DA74372B685F8A82EB6B851@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="US-ASCII"

Two ways to set up an odd split.
1) Just use one band for TX and one for RX
2) Program a split channel.  I don't remember the details, but I
remember you simply hold down the MEMORY SAVE button for a full
second and then it lets you enter a separate TX freq.

Bob, WB4APR

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
> [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Jeff Yanko
> Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 4:25 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Odd Split setup on TM-D710
>
> Hi all,
>
> I have a TM-D710 that I use for various communications,
including
> satellites.  However, I am having one heck of a time trying
> to get it setup
> so that I can at least make an attempt to work NA1SS, the
> space station.  It
> uses an odd split frequency scheme but I haven't been able to
> set it up for
> such a split.  I follow the instructions in the manual and
still to no
> avail, so I'm pretty sure I know I'm getting it wrong.
>
> Please contact me off -bb and any help will be greatly
appreciated.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff  WB3JFS
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:13:28 -0000
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001201cb7c32$d9c1b1f0$8d4515d0$@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
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Hi Group,

Ok, so I think I can answer the oldest working Amateur satellite is...
(AO7!?)

But what about the oldest:-

Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
Working commercial satellite still in orbit?

Many Thanks,

Chris



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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 16:43:20 -0000
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002d01cb7c3f$65b81da0$312858e0$@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi Robert,



>> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
>>
>Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life, it
was battery powered.. III?  I dont think that there were enough solar cells
on it to actually power the bird, but I could be >wrong.  I do listen for
it.

>

Ah, that's interesting.. I did have a quick check on Space Track via date
search, but didn't know that III was still there!




>> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
>Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit

>

Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??




>> Working commercial satellite still in orbit?
>Probably one of the 1960's ERG's...but I can check.
>

From
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/tech-head-news-items/140262-oldest-workin
g-comms-sat.html : (Thanks John LA2QAA)



"The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
amazing 41 years!"



That's a record we want AO-7 to break isn't it?



Thanks,

Chris

Project OSCAR UK



www.projectoscar.co.uk - www.projectoscar.eu





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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 17:08:22 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: Chris Bloy <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1959718089.480430.1288890502608.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>

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I? know this has been kick around before, however, w ith all the satellites
up there in various stages of functionality is it not possible any of them
could be "configured" for our use??

73 Bob W7LRD

Seattle


----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2010 9:43:20 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz!

Hi Robert,

?

>> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
>>
>Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life, it
was battery powered.. III? ?I dont think that there were enough solar cells
on it to actually power the bird, but I could be >wrong. ?I do listen for
it.

>

Ah, that's interesting.. I did have a quick check on Space Track via date
search, but didn't know that III was still there!




>> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
>Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit

>

Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??




>> Working commercial satellite still in orbit?
>Probably one of the 1960's ERG's...but I can check.
>

>From
http://www.satellites.co.uk/forums/tech-head-news-items/140262-oldest-workin
g-comms-sat.html : (Thanks John LA2QAA)

?

"The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
amazing 41 years!"

?

That's a record we want AO-7 to break isn't it?

?

Thanks,

Chris

Project OSCAR UK

?

www.projectoscar.co.uk - www.projectoscar.eu

?

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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:32:58 -0500
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <col106-w58F1AF9292E7FEFEB46AE1D64B0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)

Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life, it
was battery powered.. III?  I dont think that there were enough solar cells
on it to actually power the bird, but I could be wrong.  I do listen for it.


> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit


> Working commercial satellite still in orbit?
Probably one of the 1960's ERG's...but I can check.

Robert G. Oler WB5MZO life member AMSAT/ARRL


> From: chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 15:13:28 +0000
> CC: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb]  Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays quiz!
>
> Hi Group,
>
> Ok, so I think I can answer the oldest working Amateur satellite is...
> (AO7!?)
>
> But what about the oldest:-
>
> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
> Working commercial satellite still in orbit?
>
> Many Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 05 Nov 2010 05:23:53 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Oldest working orbiting satellite? Todays
quiz!
To: "Chris Bloy" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4cd2fa40.197ecc0a.13aa.0f4b@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 03:43 AM 11/5/2010, Chris Bloy wrote:
>Hi Robert,
>
>
>
> >> Non-working Amateur Satellite still in-orbit? (AO-13?)
> >>
> >Oscar III...then Oscar V...Oscar V has no chance of coming back to life, it
>was battery powered.. III?  I dont think that there were enough solar cells
>on it to actually power the bird, but I could be >wrong.  I do listen for
>it.

As I said in my last message, I'd have to check. ;)

> >> Non-working commercial sat? Vanguard-1?
> >Yes. Technically the rocket body is older but that is the oldest in orbit
>
> >
>
>Technically the R/B isn't a satellite??

The R/B _is_ a satellite if it's in orbit around the Earth, and it's
non functional - it became non functional when it finished its job of
putting the satellite into its orbit. :)

>"The record holder appears to be ATS-3 still nominally operational after an
>amazing 41 years!"

That's impressive!

>
>
>That's a record we want AO-7 to break isn't it?

Would be nice. :)

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 4 Nov 2010 11:27:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: B J <top_gun_canada@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Successful Encounter With Comet Hartley 2
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1476.57734.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

http://www.kintera.org/TR.asp?a=eeJEIRNwFgJNJ1K&s=kgKUIWMzFfIOKWNHE&m=6dJJJTMl
H5IFLYL

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL





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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2010 14:31:33 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Lake Superior QSL update
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <594343.95944.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

All contacts made during my Lake Superior Grid Expedition
have been confirmed direct by mail.  It was quite a project
but it is finally finished.  This includes both USA and DX
contacts.  TI2SW was the first contact made during the expedition
from Tawas, MI (EN84FG) on August 3d.  KI4RDT was the last contact
logged from Ludington, MI (EN63UW) on September 7th. 2069 qso's
were made on 168 passes.  There were about 317 unique callsigns when
the /p's etc. were removed. 32 grids were activated.  We operated from
97 unique 6 character grid locators. (All qsl cards included the 6 character
locator to pin down our location more accurately).

Paper logs were transferred to an excel spreadsheet so there are
possibilities for errors.  If you believe you made a contact and
did not receive a confirmation (and it's a new grid for you), please
email me with the contact particulars and I'll check the logs and/or
the recordings available.

I want to thank all of those who sent a donation to help with the costs
of the qsl's and mailing.  Some sent stamps, both green and USPS types.
It was very much appreciated.  It was great to get on a pass and hear
all of the stations waiting to work me.  I hope that you got through and
worked the grids you needed.  Sometimes we just couldn't stay very long
in a particular spot but we did our best.

Please think about operating the birds when you are away from home.  Many
grids are not represented on the birds regularly so when you do travel,
someone may need the grid you are in.  If you want your grid map listed on
my website, either create an image using the program (details are on the
website) or simply send me a list of your grids confirmed and/or worked
in a text file with one 4 character grid per line.

There are about 750 audio recordings of satellite passes on my website
now.  We should have over 1000 by the end of the year.  It's a great way
to hear what you sound like on the birds. It's also a good way for the new
people to hear what the birds sound like so they know what to expect when
they try to make their first contact.  Please spread the word.

http://www.papays.com/sat

73,
John K8YSE



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