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Today's Topics:

   1.  Upcoming ARRL West Coast Conventions (Clint Bradford)
   2. Re: thanks to K8YSE for so many grids! (Jim Bennett)
   3. Re: AO51 weak sig (matt wilbur)
   4. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (Ed Long)
   5. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
   6. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (Rick Tejera)
   7.  AO-7 footprint stretching (again) (Bob- W7LRD)
   8.  DN53/54   DN63/64  DN74 (kladuke1144@xxx.xxxx
   9.  AO-51 V/S (Matt Patterson)
  10. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (DOMINICK INTERDONATO)
  11. Re: AO-51 V/S (DOMINICK INTERDONATO)
  12. Re: AO-51 V/S (David H. Jordan)
  13. Re: AO-51 V/S (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  14. Re: AO-51 V/S (Matt Patterson)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 09 Sep 2010 14:38:00 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Upcoming ARRL West Coast Conventions
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ARISS OPS <ariss-ops@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <B1BFC9FC-1CBF-4DD9-A76D-885D66D758E5@xxx.xxx>
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Attendees of the upcoming West Coast ARRL regional conventions will be
subjected to my AMSAT "Work the Sats with your HT" spiel ... Watch the
registration lobbies' bulletin boards for times of passes to be worked
outside the entrances ...

September 17-19
http://www.sandarc.net/Convention2010/index.html
ARRL Southwestern Division Convention, San Diego, California
K6LCS' presentation - Saturday, 9AM

October 15-17
http://www.pacificon.org/
ARRL Pacific Division Convention, San Ramon, California
K6LCS' presentation - Saturday. 10AM

Clint, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:46:47 -0400
From: "Jim Bennett" <jlb3nn@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: thanks to K8YSE for so many grids!
To: "'Zachary Beougher'" <zack.kd8ksn@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	"'Rick - WA4NVM'"
<wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <0FB8D130A2D242A6B5B7D2DF7298AC3D@xxxx>
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I agree.  Thanks John for all your hard work.

And don't forget to thank his wife that had to put up with him chasing these
grids for all these weeks.  But I am sure it was a pleasant trip for both of
them.  It appears that they have done this before and enjoy doing it.

Thanks again to both of them.
Jim
Ke4kol


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Zachary Beougher
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 6:01 AM
To: Rick - WA4NVM; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: thanks to K8YSE for so many grids!

I'll third it!  Thanks so much John for 15-17 new grids (I am not for sure
on the # - my log is buried in my pack)!  I hope your trip was a success,
and I can't wait to see details once I get back!

73!

Zack
KD8KSN
EN80sd

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, September 08, 2010 10:25 PM
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: thanks to K8YSE for so many grids!

> Hey John,
>
> I'll second that!  Five weeks ago yesterday...... what a camping trip.
>
> Ohio wanted you back for a few months..... Florida is calling soon.
>
> Thanks for all the new girds.  We can't wait to see some pictures.
>
> 73,
>
> Rick WA4NVM
>
>
>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Now that John K8YSE is back home after a month or so on the
>> road, it's time to say THANK YOU!!!!  Thanks for all the grids,
>> so many that may not have been on the air in many years - if
>> ever.
>>
>> In looking through my log, preparing to send my QSL request to
>> K8YSE, I logged QSOs with K8YSE and K8YSE/VE3 in a total of 22
>> different grids.  All but 2 of those are new grids for my
>> satellite log.  If all of this matches up with John's log, this
>> will probably be the motivation to finally write out a satellite
>> VUCC application.
>>
>> Whenever you settle down at home, John, I'm sure there would be
>> interest in hearing about your many thousands of miles motoring
>> around Lake Superior and those very remote places in northwestern
>> Ontario.  Thanks again for all your work on the road!
>>
>> 73!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
>> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
>>
>>
>>
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>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 08:05:58 -0700
From: matt wilbur <matt@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO51 weak sig
To: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm a complete beginner so I don't have a good history with AO-51 or
anything else AMSAT, but I did get good signal/copy on passes Mon and Tue
from San Diego (DM13ic).  Got my first QSO as a licensed ham Mon on AO-51
(woot!).

I'm using an FT-60R HT and a Pryme AL-800 vertical. Have not been able to
hear SO-50 with this setup (not surprised). Using satscape for predictions.

hope this helps
matt
AF6ZA

On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 7:01 AM, <wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
>
> Whats up with AO51  I can just tell that it is there .Little to no signal ?
>
> up the output some
>
> WA4HFN Damon
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 23:01:04 -0400
From: Ed Long <wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <andres@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY148-w479B35B03232CF388248683740@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Everyone,

First - sorry for the slow response to this thread. Seems like everything I
do is late!!!

Second - the Journal delays are due to a number of factors. The two greatest
factors are a lack of publishable articles and me. I frequently have a lack
of enough articles to produce a full issue on time. So I delay publication
until I can get enough content to publish an issue. Secondly, I have a real
job and busy life and I frequently have to travel. (Ask Barry how many times
he's called me and I was in England or China or some far away place like
that.) That prevents me from working on the Journal and that delays things
sometimes. I try my best to get the Journal to you on time, but it seems
that most times I am unsuccessful.

The plan is to send the Journal to the printer the first week of the second
month shown on the cover. For example, the January/February issue should go
to the printer the first week of February. The printer should get it into
the mail the week after that so that you would receive the issue mid to late
February. That should hold true throughout the year. Unfortunately it
doesn't happen that way very often, thus the delays. AMSAT certainly is NOT
delaying the Journal - I am - for the reasons above.

So I apologize for the delays. I do try to provide you with a quality
Journal with a variety of interesting and informative articles. Thanks to
the great people that contribute to the Journal and my associate editors,
Bill Hook and JoAnne Maaenpaa, we eventually get there with each issue.
Despite the fact that I've been late, we have NOT completely missed any
issues.

I hope this explains things a bit. I know it's not acceptable, but we try to
do the very best we can.  BTW - the July/August issue went to the printer
last week so it's running late too. This delay was due to me this time.
Houston was HOT!!!

Ed Long
WA4SWJ
Editor, The AMSAT Journal
 ----



> From: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: andres@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:09:23 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> Steve,
>
>    I believe AMSAT is sending the Journal, and I don't remember claiming
> they weren't.  I also know it quite often doesn't get here.  It is the only
> piece of regularly scheduled mail I have trouble with.  I suspect the postal
> service is having problems between me and AMSAT.  I was just checking to see
> if that has happened again.  The answer I got leads me to believe it is too
> soon to tell with this issue of the magazine.  I asked the original question
> simply because it is very difficult to know when you were supposed to get
> something you didn't get :-)
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of STeve Andre'
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> On Saturday 28 August 2010 00:24:10 Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
> > Gould,
> >
> >      Please don't take my message the wrong way.  I love the journal, but
> > have had MANY delivery issues.  I have yet to receive the May/June issue.
> >
> > 73,
> > Joe kk0sd
>
> Joe,
>
> Don't assume that AMSAT didn't send it to you 'till you've verified it with
> them and they think they had a problem.
>
> I've had delivery issues on things too, and it is the fault of the Post
> Office.  Your local PO can range from fantastic to wretched, and here in
> Ann Arbor MI, it seems like we're more towards the wrong end of the
> scale.  One issue of QST had a completely mangled front cover, so bad
> that I called the PO here and complained.  The response was... "Oh.".
> Lansing MI on the other hand, has such an efficient system that a
> letter mail to my home town of Ann Arbor *gets there faster* than the
> same thing mailed *in* Ann Arbor in most cases.
>
> So when the ham mag you've been waiting for looks like a war refugee,
> or has been AWOL for 1 week+, think about the system that carries it
> to you.  Note: This is not a rant against the USPO--I support it, but I
> think
> it needs help, and I don't think that money is the answer.
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en82
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		

------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:36:11 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: "'Ed Long'" <wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <andres@xxx.xxx>,	"'AMSAT-BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL114-DS524836E092AF27E2512448A740@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Ed,



     My issue has been traced (hopefully solved) to a labeling problem at
the printers.  I  was not accusing anyone at AMSAT of anything.  I think my
exact words were



"I want to be VERY CLEAR, I do NOT believe anyone at AMSAT is at fault!  I
believe the problem is after shipment and before it would arrive at my local
post office.  A link in the middle of the chain is where I believe the
problem is.  AGAIN this is not an attack on AMSAT.  I do not believe that is
where the problem lies."



It turns out the problem was at the shipping point, as my label had no
address.



73,

Joe kk0sd



From: Ed Long [mailto:wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 10:01 PM
To: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxxx andres@xxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal



Everyone,

First - sorry for the slow response to this thread. Seems like everything I
do is late!!!

Second - the Journal delays are due to a number of factors. The two greatest
factors are a lack of publishable articles and me. I frequently have a lack
of enough articles to produce a full issue on time. So I delay publication
until I can get enough content to publish an issue. Secondly, I have a real
job and busy life and I frequently have to travel. (Ask Barry how many times
he's called me and I was in England or China or some far away place like
that.) That prevents me from working on the Journal and that delays things
sometimes. I try my best to get the Journal to you on time, but it seems
that most times I am unsuccessful.

The plan is to send the Journal to the printer the first week of the second
month shown on the cover. For example, the January/February issue should go
to the printer the first week of February. The printer should get it into
the mail the week after that so that you would receive the issue mid to late
February. That should hold true throughout the year. Unfortunately it
doesn't happen that way very often, thus the delays. AMSAT certainly is NOT
delaying the Journal - I am - for the reasons above.

So I apologize for the delays. I do try to provide you with a quality
Journal with a variety of interesting and informative articles. Thanks to
the great people that contribute to the Journal and my associate editors,
Bill Hook and JoAnne Maaenpaa, we eventually get there with each issue.
Despite the fact that I've been late, we have NOT completely missed any
issues.

I hope this explains things a bit. I know it's not acceptable, but we try to
do the very best we can.  BTW - the July/August issue went to the printer
last week so it's running late too. This delay was due to me this time.
Houston was HOT!!!

Ed Long
WA4SWJ
Editor, The AMSAT Journal
 ----



> From: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: andres@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:09:23 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> Steve,
>
> I believe AMSAT is sending the Journal, and I don't remember claiming
> they weren't. I also know it quite often doesn't get here. It is the only
> piece of regularly scheduled mail I have trouble with. I suspect the
postal
> service is having problems between me and AMSAT. I was just checking to
see
> if that has happened again. The answer I got leads me to believe it is too
> soon to tell with this issue of the magazine. I asked the original
question
> simply because it is very difficult to know when you were supposed to get
> something you didn't get :-)
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of STeve Andre'
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> On Saturday 28 August 2010 00:24:10 Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
> > Gould,
> >
> > Please don't take my message the wrong way. I love the journal, but
> > have had MANY delivery issues. I have yet to receive the May/June issue.
> >
> > 73,
> > Joe kk0sd
>
> Joe,
>
> Don't assume that AMSAT didn't send it to you 'till you've verified it
with
> them and they think they had a problem.
>
> I've had delivery issues on things too, and it is the fault of the Post
> Office. Your local PO can range from fantastic to wretched, and here in
> Ann Arbor MI, it seems like we're more towards the wrong end of the
> scale. One issue of QST had a completely mangled front cover, so bad
> that I called the PO here and complained. The response was... "Oh.".
> Lansing MI on the other hand, has such an efficient system that a
> letter mail to my home town of Ann Arbor *gets there faster* than the
> same thing mailed *in* Ann Arbor in most cases.
>
> So when the ham mag you've been waiting for looks like a war refugee,
> or has been AWOL for 1 week+, think about the system that carries it
> to you. Note: This is not a rant against the USPO--I support it, but I
> think
> it needs help, and I don't think that money is the answer.
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf en82
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 6
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2010 21:07:08 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: "'Ed Long'" <wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>,
<andres@xxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<20100910040723.QOXL3990.fed1rmmtao107.cox.net@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Ed,

I understand fully. I'm the editor of my Astronomy Club's newsletter, A much
smaller publication than the Journal and I've experienced everything you
have as well.

It's important to balance all the things in life and as I've mentioned to
folks, it's a hobby and life likes to throw higher priorities in your way
more oft than not.

I'm sure all appreciate your efforts.

Once I get a few bucks stashed off, I'll send my check in to join AMSAT. And
I've got an article Idea for you.

73

Clear Skies

Rick Tejera
Editor SACnews,
Public Outreach Coordinator
Saguaro Astronomy Club
Phoenix, Arizona
www.saguaroastro.org
saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
K7TEJ

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Ed Long
Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 20:01
To: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxxx andres@xxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal


Everyone,

First - sorry for the slow response to this thread. Seems like everything I
do is late!!!

Second - the Journal delays are due to a number of factors. The two greatest
factors are a lack of publishable articles and me. I frequently have a lack
of enough articles to produce a full issue on time. So I delay publication
until I can get enough content to publish an issue. Secondly, I have a real
job and busy life and I frequently have to travel. (Ask Barry how many times
he's called me and I was in England or China or some far away place like
that.) That prevents me from working on the Journal and that delays things
sometimes. I try my best to get the Journal to you on time, but it seems
that most times I am unsuccessful.

The plan is to send the Journal to the printer the first week of the second
month shown on the cover. For example, the January/February issue should go
to the printer the first week of February. The printer should get it into
the mail the week after that so that you would receive the issue mid to late
February. That should hold true throughout the year. Unfortunately it
doesn't happen that way very often, thus the delays. AMSAT certainly is NOT
delaying the Journal - I am - for the reasons above.

So I apologize for the delays. I do try to provide you with a quality
Journal with a variety of interesting and informative articles. Thanks to
the great people that contribute to the Journal and my associate editors,
Bill Hook and JoAnne Maaenpaa, we eventually get there with each issue.
Despite the fact that I've been late, we have NOT completely missed any
issues.

I hope this explains things a bit. I know it's not acceptable, but we try to
do the very best we can.  BTW - the July/August issue went to the printer
last week so it's running late too. This delay was due to me this time.
Houston was HOT!!!

Ed Long
WA4SWJ
Editor, The AMSAT Journal
 ----



> From: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: andres@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:09:23 -0500
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> Steve,
>
>    I believe AMSAT is sending the Journal, and I don't remember claiming
> they weren't.  I also know it quite often doesn't get here.  It is the
only
> piece of regularly scheduled mail I have trouble with.  I suspect the
postal
> service is having problems between me and AMSAT.  I was just checking to
see
> if that has happened again.  The answer I got leads me to believe it is
too
> soon to tell with this issue of the magazine.  I asked the original
question
> simply because it is very difficult to know when you were supposed to get
> something you didn't get :-)
>
> 73,
> Joe kk0sd
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of STeve Andre'
> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:30 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
> On Saturday 28 August 2010 00:24:10 Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
> > Gould,
> >
> >      Please don't take my message the wrong way.  I love the journal,
but
> > have had MANY delivery issues.  I have yet to receive the May/June
issue.
> >
> > 73,
> > Joe kk0sd
>
> Joe,
>
> Don't assume that AMSAT didn't send it to you 'till you've verified it
with
> them and they think they had a problem.
>
> I've had delivery issues on things too, and it is the fault of the Post
> Office.  Your local PO can range from fantastic to wretched, and here in
> Ann Arbor MI, it seems like we're more towards the wrong end of the
> scale.  One issue of QST had a completely mangled front cover, so bad
> that I called the PO here and complained.  The response was... "Oh.".
> Lansing MI on the other hand, has such an efficient system that a
> letter mail to my home town of Ann Arbor *gets there faster* than the
> same thing mailed *in* Ann Arbor in most cases.
>
> So when the ham mag you've been waiting for looks like a war refugee,
> or has been AWOL for 1 week+, think about the system that carries it
> to you.  Note: This is not a rant against the USPO--I support it, but I
> think
> it needs help, and I don't think that money is the answer.
>
> --STeve Andre'
> wb8wsf  en82
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 		 	   		
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:04:25 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-7 footprint stretching (again)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<1205189384.849781.1284098665008.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxx.xx.xxxx.xxxx
xxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Trying to stretch the footprint on AO-7 mode A is a most masochistic
endeavor.? I have been collaborating with JH1BCL PM96ng to my qth in CN87wk
(Seattle).? At 7719km a stretch for mode B, painfull for mode A.? This
evening I coppied a piece of? Shige's call.? If the sunspots ever get going
there may be some propagation on 10M and which might help the downlink,
shades of RS-15.? Too bad the JA's can not operate 432.? If anyone has
entered this painful are na, let me know.? I must remember, "if this were
easy, everyone would be doing it".
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 06:55:07 -0600
From: <kladuke1144@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  DN53/54   DN63/64  DN74
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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All,

      I plan on operating from DN53/54/63/64 and possibly DN74 starting with
the AO27 pass at 1837Z September 10, 2010.  Look for me on AO51 and SO50
also.  Operation from DN54 or DN53 on an earlier pass is possible.

73
WC7V
Kerry


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:13:13 -0500
From: Matt Patterson <mattpatt@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 V/S
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4C8A2EE9.6090802@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,

Thanks to everyone for all of your responses.  It looks like I have
found a downconverter.  Next question...  Does anyone have any ideas on
a cheap and easy homebrew antenna?  Would a "cantenna" work for a small
portable setup?  I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as AO-51
isn't in this mode very often.

73 Matt
W5LL



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:03:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: DOMINICK INTERDONATO <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: saguaroastro@xxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxx
<wa4swj@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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<6328937.1206402.1284127401047.JavaMail.morsesat@xxxx.xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xxx>

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Please understand that we must be politically correct at ALL times.
(Nuts) Of course I am kidding.  I wanted to add my 2cents to this thread
since I know you all and no one thinks anything nefarious is happening.
With ALL volunteer organizations with our "HUGE" budgets, things get
left behind or not even thought about.
I, for one, believe that AMSAT does some things better than most other
organizations and also leaves things to be desired in other areas.  If
we keep in mind the ultimate goal of satellite communications for "us"
hams, we will keep our group moving in the right direction(no, not the
political right).  Cheers to all you volunteers.
73,

Dee, NB2F


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 12:07 AM, Rick Tejera wrote:

> Ed,
>
> I understand fully. I'm the editor of my Astronomy Club's newsletter,
> A much
> smaller publication than the Journal and I've experienced everything
> you
> have as well.
> It's important to balance all the things in life and as I've mentioned
> to
> folks, it's a hobby and life likes to throw higher priorities in your
> way
> more oft than not.
> I'm sure all appreciate your efforts.
>
> Once I get a few bucks stashed off, I'll send my check in to join
> AMSAT. And
> I've got an article Idea for you.
>
> 73
>
> Clear Skies
>
> Rick Tejera
> Editor SACnews,
> Public Outreach Coordinator
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
> Phoenix, Arizona
> www.saguaroastro.org
> saguaroastro@xxx.xxx K7TEJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx
> On
> Behalf Of Ed Long
> Sent: Thursday, September 09, 2010 20:01
> To: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxxx andres@xxx.xxxx AMSAT-BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>
>
> Everyone,
>
> First - sorry for the slow response to this thread. Seems like
> everything I
> do is late!!!
>
> Second - the Journal delays are due to a number of factors. The two
> greatest
> factors are a lack of publishable articles and me. I frequently have a
> lack
> of enough articles to produce a full issue on time. So I delay
> publication
> until I can get enough content to publish an issue. Secondly, I have a
> real
> job and busy life and I frequently have to travel. (Ask Barry how many
> times
> he's called me and I was in England or China or some far away place
> like
> that.) That prevents me from working on the Journal and that delays
> things
> sometimes. I try my best to get the Journal to you on time, but it
> seems
> that most times I am unsuccessful.
>
> The plan is to send the Journal to the printer the first week of the
> second
> month shown on the cover. For example, the January/February issue
> should go
> to the printer the first week of February. The printer should get it
> into
> the mail the week after that so that you would receive the issue mid
> to late
> February. That should hold true throughout the year. Unfortunately it
> doesn't happen that way very often, thus the delays. AMSAT certainly
> is NOT
> delaying the Journal - I am - for the reasons above.
>
> So I apologize for the delays. I do try to provide you with a quality
> Journal with a variety of interesting and informative articles. Thanks
> to
> the great people that contribute to the Journal and my associate
> editors,
> Bill Hook and JoAnne Maaenpaa, we eventually get there with each
> issue.
> Despite the fact that I've been late, we have NOT completely missed
> any
> issues.
>
> I hope this explains things a bit. I know it's not acceptable, but we
> try to
> do the very best we can.  BTW - the July/August issue went to the
> printer
> last week so it's running late too. This delay was due to me this
> time.
> Houston was HOT!!!
>
> Ed Long
> WA4SWJ
> Editor, The AMSAT Journal
>  ----
>
>
>
>> From: gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx
>> To: andres@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Sat, 28 Aug 2010 22:09:23 -0500
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>>
>> Steve,
>>
>>    I believe AMSAT is sending the Journal, and I don't remember
>> claiming
>> they weren't.  I also know it quite often doesn't get here.  It is
>> the
> only
>> piece of regularly scheduled mail I have trouble with.  I suspect the
> postal
>> service is having problems between me and AMSAT.  I was just checking
>> to
> see
>> if that has happened again.  The answer I got leads me to believe it
>> is
> too
>> soon to tell with this issue of the magazine.  I asked the original
> question
>> simply because it is very difficult to know when you were supposed to
>> get
>> something you didn't get :-)
>> 73,
>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx
>> On
>> Behalf Of STeve Andre'
>> Sent: Saturday, August 28, 2010 11:30 AM
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
>>
>> On Saturday 28 August 2010 00:24:10 Gary "Joe" Mayfield wrote:
>>> Gould,
>>>
>>>      Please don't take my message the wrong way.  I love the
>>> journal,
> but
>>> have had MANY delivery issues.  I have yet to receive the May/June
> issue.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Joe kk0sd
>>
>> Joe,
>> Don't assume that AMSAT didn't send it to you 'till you've verified
>> it
> with
>> them and they think they had a problem.
>>
>> I've had delivery issues on things too, and it is the fault of the
>> Post Office.  Your local PO can range from fantastic to wretched, and
>> here in
>> Ann Arbor MI, it seems like we're more towards the wrong end of the
>> scale.  One issue of QST had a completely mangled front cover, so bad
>> that I called the PO here and complained.  The response was... "Oh.".
>> Lansing MI on the other hand, has such an efficient system that a
>> letter mail to my home town of Ann Arbor *gets there faster* than the
>> same thing mailed *in* Ann Arbor in most cases.
>>
>> So when the ham mag you've been waiting for looks like a war refugee,
>> or has been AWOL for 1 week+, think about the system that carries it
>> to you.  Note: This is not a rant against the USPO--I support it, but
>> I
>> think
>> it needs help, and I don't think that money is the answer.
>>
>> --STeve Andre'
>> wb8wsf  en82
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:06:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: DOMINICK INTERDONATO <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: mattpatt@xxxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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You can use a cheap wi-fi directional antenna and they are available
from most computer wharehouses at great prices.

Dee, NB2F


On Fri, Sep 10, 2010 at 9:13 AM, Matt Patterson wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Thanks to everyone for all of your responses.  It looks like I have
> found a downconverter.  Next question...  Does anyone have any ideas
> on a cheap and easy homebrew antenna?  Would a "cantenna" work for a
> small portable setup?  I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as
> AO-51 isn't in this mode very often.
>
> 73 Matt
> W5LL
>
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> author.
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:07:04 +0000
From: "David H. Jordan" <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: "Matt Patterson" <mattpatt@xxxxxxxx.xxx>,
amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<582518448-1284127627-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-412398351-@xxxx
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Matt,
I have been testing the U.S. Antenna Cantenna on my roof for several months
now. I think it is an ok antenna. Even with a preamp, I'm not real
impressed. If your overriding concern is to be stealth, it is probably a
good compromise.
Dave, AA4KN
------Original Message------
From: Matt Patterson
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 V/S
Sent: Sep 10, 2010 09:13

Hi,

Thanks to everyone for all of your responses.  It looks like I have
found a downconverter.  Next question...  Does anyone have any ideas on
a cheap and easy homebrew antenna?  Would a "cantenna" work for a small
portable setup?  I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as AO-51
isn't in this mode very often.

73 Matt
W5LL

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 10:15:42 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: Matt Patterson <mattpatt@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Matt Patterson wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks to everyone for all of your responses.  It looks like I have
> found a downconverter.  Next question...  Does anyone have any ideas on
> a cheap and easy homebrew antenna?  Would a "cantenna" work for a small
> portable setup?  I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible as AO-51
> isn't in this mode very often.
>
> 73 Matt
> W5LL
>
>
Hi Matt,

Which downconverter did you find? Do you intend to work the satellite
portable, or mount the 2.4Ghz antenna on a rotor? Let me know, and I'll
make a recommendation or two.

73, Drew KO4MA


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:39:05 -0500
From: Matt Patterson <mattpatt@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 V/S
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4C8A4309.6070606@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Drew,

It's a California Microwave unit that has already been modified.  The
plan right now is for portable use.  Two HTs, a 5/8 wave mag mount on my
truck for the uplink and whatever antenna I can come up with for the
downlink. I have a small gell cell battery that will power the
downconverter.


73 Matt
W5LL

On 9/10/2010 9:15 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Matt Patterson wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks to everyone for all of your responses.  It looks like I have
>> found a downconverter.  Next question...  Does anyone have any ideas
>> on a cheap and easy homebrew antenna?  Would a "cantenna" work for a
>> small portable setup?  I'm trying to do this as cheaply as possible
>> as AO-51 isn't in this mode very often.
>>
>> 73 Matt
>> W5LL
>>
> Hi Matt,
>
> Which downconverter did you find? Do you intend to work the satellite
> portable, or mount the 2.4Ghz antenna on a rotor? Let me know, and
> I'll make a recommendation or two.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA




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