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Today's Topics:
1. Re: TAPR Trakbox Kit (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
2. HO-68 Schedule -29-05 Sep 2010 (Alan Kung)
3. AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Election 2010 (Alan P. Biddle)
4. SO67 scheduled for NA and SA this week (Andrew Glasbrenner)
5. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (James French)
6. Re: TAPR Trakbox Kit (Robert Bruninga)
7. Re: New Satellite Downlink? (Robert Bruninga)
8. Re: Latest AMSAT Journal (Martha)
9. Re: New Satellite Downlink? (Gordon JC Pearce)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 19:36:00 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TAPR Trakbox Kit
To: John Neeley <w6zkh@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield"
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4C7AB6A0.60602@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
It's there. You just don't know how to cut and pastebroken URLs.
On 29-Aug-10 18:05, John Neeley wrote:
> Not only you didnt assemble it, it has disappeared, heh.... nothing with
that
> eBay number, Joe... Think that CR with 7836 is the culprit.....not sure
though.
>
> W6ZKH
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "Gary "Joe" Mayfield"<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 9:29:46 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] TAPR Trakbox Kit
>
> Shameless plug for item for sale on eBay ---
>
>
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/TAPR-Trakbox-Stand-Alone-Satellite-Tracker-Kit-/25068943
> 7836
>
>
>
> It is a Trakbox kit I never assembled.
>
>
>
> 73,
>
> Joe kk0sd
>
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Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF 9H3GN), e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx
www http://www.ngunn.net
Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC,
GCARES, XWARN, EAA382.
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 03:36:08 +0800
From: "Alan Kung" <alankung@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Schedule -29-05 Sep 2010
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002501cb47b1$6f5cb040$6c01a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312"
UTC:
29 Aug 2010
================================
16:15...Turn On--FM
India, Africa, Middle East,
Europe,NA
17:00...Turn Off
18:05...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,Middle East,NA
18:50...Turn Off
19:30...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,Middle East,NA
20:15...Turn Off
30 Aug 2010
================================
23:55...Turn On--FM
South America,NA,North Asia
00:40...Turn Off
01:53...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,South Asia
02:09...Turn Off
12:12...Turn On--FM
NA,North Asia,East Asia,
Oceania
12:26...Turn Off
16:00...Turn On--FM
India, Africa, Middle East,
Europe,NA
16:45...Turn Off
19:55...Turn On--FM
Africa, Middle East,
Europe,NA
20:40...Turn Off
23:40...Turn On--FM
NA,North Asia,East Asia,
Oceania
24:25...Turn Off
31 Aug 2010
================================
01:36...Turn On--FM
North Asia, East Asia,South Asia
01:52...Turn Off
11:35...Turn On--FM
Oceania,Asia,Europe
12:20...Turn Off
17:30...Turn On--FM
India,Middle East,Europe,NA
18:15...Turn Off
18:55...Turn On--FM
India,Middle East,Europe,NA
19:40...Turn Off
23:20...Turn On--FM
NA,North Asia,East Asia,
Oceania
24:05...Turn Off
01 Sep 2010
=================================
03:03...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,South Asia
03:19...Turn Off
06:35...Turn On--FM
NA,North Asia,Eroupe, Africa
17:20...Turn Off
13:55...Turn On--FM
Europe,NA,South America
14:40...Turn Off
15:50...Turn On--FM
Europe,NA, South America
16:35...Turn Off
18:40...Turn On--FM
Africa,Middle East,Europe,NA
19:25...Turn Off
20:30...Turn On--FM
Africa,Middle East,Europe,NA
21:15...Turn Off
02 Sep 2010
=================================
00:50...Turn On--FM
NA,North Asia,East Asia,Oceania
01:35...Turn Off
02:48...Turn On--FM
Asia,Oceania
03:03...Turn Off
13:45...Turn On--FM
Europe,NA,South America
14:30...Turn Off
16:55...Turn On--FM
Africa,India,Middle East,Europe,NA
17:40...Turn Off
18:45...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,NA
19:30...Turn Off
20:10...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,NA
20:55...Turn Off
03 Sep 2010
================================
00:35...Turn On--FM
Oceania,Asia,Europe,NA
01:20...Turn Off
02:31...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,South Asia
02:47...Turn Off
14:39...Turn On--FM
Oceania,India,East Asia
14:54...Turn Off
16:40...Turn On--FM
India,Africa,Europe,NA
17:25...Turn Off
18:25...Turn On--FM
India,Africa,Europe,NA
19:10...Turn Off
19:50...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,NA
20:35...Turn Off
04 Sep 2010
================================
00:20...Turn On--FM
South America,NA,North Asia
01:05...Turn Off
02:14...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,South Asia
02:30...Turn Off
14:30...Turn On--FM
Oceania, East Asia,North Asia
14:44...Turn Off
16:25...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,NA
17:10...Turn Off
18:10...Turn On--FM
India,Africa,Europe,NA
18:55...Turn Off
19:35...Turn On--FM
Africa,Europe,NA
20:20...Turn Off
05 Sep 2010
================================
00:00...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,
South Asia,Oceania
00:45...Turn Off
02:00...Turn On--FM
North Asia,East Asia,South Asia
02:15...Turn Off
14:05...Turn On--FM
Oceania,India,East Asia
14:21...Turn Off
73
Alan Kung, BA1DU
HO-68(XW-1) Project Manager
www.camsat.cn
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:52:45 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Election 2010
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: ANS Submission <ans-editor@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E6C2A98938F74D2F988A38ECE129BCCE@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
The deadline for submitting your ballot is rapidly approaching. In order to
be counted, they must be received at the AMSAT office by the close of
business on Wednesday, September 15th. The results will be announced as
quickly as possible, with the new directors assuming their position
immediately upon the formal announcement of the results. As always, this
very direct feedback is essential for AMSAT to continue to represent its
membership!
Alan Biddle
WA4SCA
AMSAT Corporate Secretary
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 23:07:59 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO67 scheduled for NA and SA this week
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <12A18492-EE70-4BB7-B6C8-551C5ED387D7@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
SO67 is scheduled for passes over North and South America this week: see
http://www.amsatsa.org.za/
73, Drew KO4MA
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 05:56:53 -0400
From: James French <w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <201008300556.54248.w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hello Joe and the list.
If I can explain a little about how bulk mailing works, it might help explain
some issues that people have with getting the journal. I work for a printer
that does bulk mailings also and this is how they do things. AMSAT's printer
may do it a totally different way than how my employer does it.
First, It all depends on when the mailer gets the printed copies. There may be
issues with paper used, when the files arrive, scheduled deadlines met on
time,
things like that.
Second, the sender supplies a file with names and addresses that need to be
printed onto either labels or onto the printed material in a certain space.
This takes about anywhere from 30 minutes to a whole day (equipment issues) to
set up aligning the print heads. Each process has its own procedures and
differs between mailers.
Third, depending on what the volume (quantity) is, it could take a day to a
week to print names and addresses onto the printed material.
Fourth, keeping the addresses sorted so that they are going to the right
destination can get complex sometimes.
Fifth, after everything is sorted by zip codes and destinations, then comes
shipping via semi to the separate sort facilities across the country and
outside country destinations. Yes, depending on quantity, bulk mailing gets
shipped to sort facilities across the country by contracted carriers.
Sixth, it could take as much as a week to get from the mailers dock to a sort
facility on the other side of the country depending on where the mailer is
located.
If you look at the mailing label area on your journal next time, you'll see
that little square that has this saying in it:
Periodicals
POSTAGE PAID
At Silver Springs, MD
and at additional mailing offices
that means that it has gone from the mailer to at least one sort facility in
the path before it gets to your local post office and your home mailbox.
There is also meeting the criteria of how the USPS wants things sorted and
weighed and..... The list is endless currently. My place of employment has had
the USPS reject a load because it either weighed one pound more or less than
what is stated on the documents. The USPS also has guidelines that have to be
met about thickness and weight of paper. That can hold up a mailing also.
This is not to say that this is how AMSAT does the mailing of the journal. I
am just stating how its done at my place of employment to give everyone an
idea of what it takes to mail the Journal each time. Things do change each
time the Journal is mailed so that has to be taken into account each time.
Proposed deadlines have to be met to keep things flowing. If one deadline is
not met, that can hold things up by a week or more.
The times I gave are based on a mailing of several hundreds of thousands
having to have addresses printed onto them.
You also have to remember that the printer that AMSAT uses has to make
deadlines also. The printer could be the same business that does the mailing
which does help.
AMSAT only has to do roughly almost ten thousand printings of the Journal each
time. This takes time on the presses to set up. Based on where I work, the
Journal would go onto the sheetfed press not the 4 color offset press because
of the quantity amount. Which means a little bit more cost in paper, press
time, and setup.
Then it moves out to the bindery department to be folded, cut, and stapled to
its final size for the mailing department.
I hope this explains some about why one person may get a journal before
another person does. I know it doesn't explain everything but it gives
everyone an idea of what it takes to get the journal mailed.
James W8ISS
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:25:57 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TAPR Trakbox Kit
To: "'Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF'" <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>, "'John Neeley'"
<w6zkh@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx "'Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield'"
<gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7A2551E443D2419295D3DFE3E2803398@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> It's there. You just don't know how to cut and pastebroken
URLs.
Surely there is a less combative way to phrase that..
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 09:32:53 -0400
From: "Robert Bruninga" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Satellite Downlink?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4DA3662866384E019ADC56FD8CB6BCD8@xxxxx.xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> And isn't the idea that we are authorised to
> experiment with these satellites, now that
> the US Navy is no longer using them?
Let me correct the record. We have no such authority.
We are simply looking at how one might use such a limited 500
byte broadcast message capability IF-and-only-IF such access
were somehow possible. That's why I like the idea of finding a
use in disaster communications, where a proposal might have some
value...
Bob, Wb4APR
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 10:31:28 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Latest AMSAT Journal
To: James French <w8iss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<AANLkTinUvOkL+W5MbCY7PzS3_jQbHYDEzXtK5d1WyFoa@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
All- I have received complaints concerning delivery of the Journal that is
mailed non-profit 2nd class . According to the Supervisor of 2nd class
non-profit at the Post Office, the problem is on the receiver's end. If the
magazine does not "bounce back" to us, it is in the system ready to be
delivered.
Although the magazine is mailed in MD, some members located in the state get
their Journal later than members in the in other parts of the country. So -
there is really nothing we can do at our end. The printer generally takes a
week from the time he receives the files from the Editor. It then takes
about 3-4 days for the mailer to get it to the Post Office.
If you do not receive an issue, please let me know and I will send a
replacement copy.
Martha - At the beach
On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:56 AM, James French <w8Ifiss@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>wrote:
> Hello Joe and the list.
>
> If I can explain a little about how bulk mailing works, it might help
> explain
> some issues that people have with getting the journal. I work for a printer
> that does bulk mailings also and this is how they do things. AMSAT's
> printer
> may do it a totally different way than how my employer does it.
>
> First, It all depends on when the mailer gets the printed copies. There may
> be
> issues with paper used, when the files arrive, scheduled deadlines met on
> time,
> things like that.
>
> Second, the sender supplies a file with names and addresses that need to be
> printed onto either labels or onto the printed material in a certain space.
> This takes about anywhere from 30 minutes to a whole day (equipment issues)
> to
> set up aligning the print heads. Each process has its own procedures and
> differs between mailers.
>
> Third, depending on what the volume (quantity) is, it could take a day to a
> week to print names and addresses onto the printed material.
>
> Fourth, keeping the addresses sorted so that they are going to the right
> destination can get complex sometimes.
>
> Fifth, after everything is sorted by zip codes and destinations, then comes
> shipping via semi to the separate sort facilities across the country and
> outside country destinations. Yes, depending on quantity, bulk mailing gets
> shipped to sort facilities across the country by contracted carriers.
>
> Sixth, it could take as much as a week to get from the mailers dock to a
> sort
> facility on the other side of the country depending on where the mailer is
> located.
>
> If you look at the mailing label area on your journal next time, you'll see
> that little square that has this saying in it:
>
> Periodicals
> POSTAGE PAID
> At Silver Springs, MD
> and at additional mailing offices
>
> that means that it has gone from the mailer to at least one sort facility
> in
> the path before it gets to your local post office and your home mailbox.
>
> There is also meeting the criteria of how the USPS wants things sorted and
> weighed and..... The list is endless currently. My place of employment has
> had
> the USPS reject a load because it either weighed one pound more or less
> than
> what is stated on the documents. The USPS also has guidelines that have to
> be
> met about thickness and weight of paper. That can hold up a mailing also.
>
> This is not to say that this is how AMSAT does the mailing of the journal.
> I
> am just stating how its done at my place of employment to give everyone an
> idea of what it takes to mail the Journal each time. Things do change each
> time the Journal is mailed so that has to be taken into account each time.
> Proposed deadlines have to be met to keep things flowing. If one deadline
> is
> not met, that can hold things up by a week or more.
>
> The times I gave are based on a mailing of several hundreds of thousands
> having to have addresses printed onto them.
>
> You also have to remember that the printer that AMSAT uses has to make
> deadlines also. The printer could be the same business that does the
> mailing
> which does help.
>
> AMSAT only has to do roughly almost ten thousand printings of the Journal
> each
> time. This takes time on the presses to set up. Based on where I work, the
> Journal would go onto the sheetfed press not the 4 color offset press
> because
> of the quantity amount. Which means a little bit more cost in paper, press
> time, and setup.
>
> Then it moves out to the bindery department to be folded, cut, and stapled
> to
> its final size for the mailing department.
>
> I hope this explains some about why one person may get a journal before
> another person does. I know it doesn't explain everything but it gives
> everyone an idea of what it takes to get the journal mailed.
>
> James W8ISS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
--
73- Martha
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 18:12:34 +0100
From: Gordon JC Pearce <gordonjcp@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Satellite Downlink?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <1283188354.7862.14.camel@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
On Mon, 2010-08-30 at 09:32 -0400, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> > And isn't the idea that we are authorised to
> > experiment with these satellites, now that
> > the US Navy is no longer using them?
>
> Let me correct the record. We have no such authority.
Okay, then that *might* be different. I suspect you'd have to try
*really* hard to find anyone that would get upset at people listening to
your satellite without authority. It's impossible to get Ofcom
interested in stopping people transmitting without a licence or outside
the terms of their licence, and that's when they're jamming the local 2m
repeater that the Ofcom guys with amateur licenses frequent!
> We are simply looking at how one might use such a limited 500
> byte broadcast message capability IF-and-only-IF such access
> were somehow possible. That's why I like the idea of finding a
> use in disaster communications, where a proposal might have some
> value...
>
> Bob, Wb4APR
How hard would it be to develop a mobile/portable command station for
it? I know you said it used some very specific stuff to program, but
just how specific and difficult-to-reproduce would it be?
Gordon MM0YEQ
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