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Today's Topics:

   1.  Keps for the oldies? (Rich Dailey)
   2. Re: Keps for the oldies? (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   3. Re: Keps for the oldies? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
   4. Re: Keps for the oldies? (Alan P. Biddle)
   5.  lonely to the west (Bob- W7LRD)
   6. Re: Keps for the oldies? (Rich Dailey (Gmail Mobile))
   7. Re: Keps for the oldies? (Rich Dailey (Gmail Mobile))
   8.  XE2/WD9EWK last weekend, QSL cards
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   9.  Connector Loss ? (John Heath)
  10. Re: Connector Loss ? (i8cvs)
  11. Re: TubeSats - DIY Satellites (Lee McLamb)
  12. Re: AO-51 Mode Change Aug 5 (Clint Bradford)
  13. Correction Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net Aug 05 On	N2EYH-L
      (Cotejaune2@xxx.xxxx


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 12:39:22 -0400
From: Rich Dailey <richdailey@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Keps for the oldies?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20100804123411.052c6bc0@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Can someone send me a link where I can find current keps for Vanguard 1, and
other
ancient sats? I've Googled myself cross-eyed, and not coming up with
anything current.
tnx...Rich, N8UX



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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:12:34 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps for the oldies?
To: Rich Dailey <richdailey@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4C59C9B2.8010208@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Rich Dailey wrote:
> Can someone send me a link where I can find current keps for Vanguard 1,
and other
> ancient sats? I've Googled myself cross-eyed, and not coming up with
anything current.
> tnx...Rich, N8UX
>
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Sign up at http://www.space-track.org and you can get keps for almost
anything.

73, Drew KO4MA


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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 20:15:27 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps for the oldies?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4C59CA5F.4080408@xxxxx.xxx>
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VANGUARD 1
1 00005U 58002B   10214.89179569 +.00000028 +00000-0 +35487-4 0 06439
2 00005 034.2536 171.7615 1846588 332.5583 018.8295 10.83957078813785
VANGUARD 2
1 00011U 59001A   10215.36215070 -.00000015  00000-0 -44733-5 0   254
2 00011 032.8630 248.1690 1482466 093.5401 283.5282 11.82613986189035
VANGUARD R/B
1 00012U 59001B   10215.75742550  .00000394  00000-0  21257-3 0  8302
2 00012 032.9092 343.5616 1680687 233.5490 109.8390 11.41335945109815
VANGUARD R/B
1 00016U 58002A   10214.92311079 +.00000070 +00000-0 +96444-4 0 09136
2 00016 034.2541 123.7070 2030693 157.7942 212.4907 10.48087926080284
VANGUARD 3
1 00020U 59007A   10215.50088821  .00000105  00000-0  28546-4 0  4332
2 00020 033.3580 032.1057 1688631 272.2898 068.6208 11.51195181813976
EXPLORER 7
1 00022U 59009A   10215.80111389  .00000119  00000-0  38512-4 0  7090
2 00022 050.2926 332.2040 0173607 267.9044 090.2007 14.82306721687610

On 04-Aug-10 16:39, Rich Dailey wrote:
> Can someone send me a link where I can find current keps for Vanguard 1,
and other
> ancient sats? I've Googled myself cross-eyed, and not coming up with
anything current.
> tnx...Rich, N8UX
>
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--
Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www 
http://www.ngunn.net
Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
            Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC,
GCARES, XWARN.



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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 15:18:48 -0500
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps for the oldies?
To: "'Rich Dailey'" <richdailey@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	"AMSAT-BB"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <98CD4B7D4DF1469B9C102BA2B1E9F672@xxxxxx>
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Rich,

Go to http://www.space-track.org and sign in or register.  Look at the right
side of the page for SATCAT data, which includes the ability to search in
various ways including launch date.  I was able to find Vanguard, Sputnik,
etc for lauches in 1957 and 1958.

Alan
WA4SCA



-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Rich Dailey
Sent: Wednesday, August 04, 2010 11:39 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Keps for the oldies?

Can someone send me a link where I can find current keps for Vanguard 1, and
other
ancient sats? I've Googled myself cross-eyed, and not coming up with
anything current.
tnx...Rich, N8UX

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 20:23:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  lonely to the west
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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When AO-7 is out over the N. Pacific it is covering a lot of realestate.?
Namely UA0, UA9, BY, JT.? Our JA friends can not use 432, they're scarce on
mode A.? Only UA0ZS once.? A sprinkling of KL7's.? A sliver of N. Europe,
thankyou Mika.
just commiserating
73 Bob W7LRD
Seattle


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:23:54 -0400
From: "Rich Dailey (Gmail Mobile)" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps for the oldies?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20100804162202.02433058@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Thanks to Andrew, Adrian, and Alan for pointers to space-track.org,
and Nigel for the file. On my way... Rich, N8UX



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 04 Aug 2010 16:31:48 -0400
From: "Rich Dailey (Gmail Mobile)" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Keps for the oldies?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20100804163007.023b9ff0@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I'm assuming space-track.org has taken the place of the old NASA O.I.G. site
that I remember using several years ago.  Thanks again to all for the
info...Rich, N8UX



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 14:17:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  XE2/WD9EWK last weekend, QSL cards
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <354263.26886.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi!

Last weekend, I made a quick trip to Mexicali in northern Baja
California.  I had a couple of vacation days I needed to use, and I
wanted to see my friends out there.  I had not been there since February,
and in particular I wanted to see how things were since the Easter Sunday
earthquake that hit that area in April.  I also had about 3 weeks left on
my 6-month XE ham permit, so I took the opportunity to work some passes
while I was out there.

This trip was the first time I took my all-mode satellite station (two
FT-817NDs) into Mexico.  I did not do this on my trips earlier this year
and in 2009 to Mexico, and wanted to try out the SSB birds from there.
I used the same bag that I carried my radios in when I went to Canada
for the radios this time, to keep things a little more organized if
Mexican authorities were interested in what I had in my truck.  That
worked out very well, as I received the red light when I first entered
Mexicali last week.  Mexico uses a red/green traffic light to "randomly"
determine if a Customs inspector will take a look at you and your vehicle
and other stuff, and I had to allow a Mexican Customs inspector to look
through my truck.  After the quick look, including seeing my bags with
radio gear and my Elk log periodic antenna laying disassembled in the
back of my truck, I was allowed to enter Mexico without any further
hassles.

Thursday (29 July) started out with the 4-hour drive from Phoenix to
Mexicali, and working an AO-27 pass shortly after crossing into Mexico.
I parked at a shopping mall less than 2km (about a mile or so) southeast
of the downtown Mexicali border crossing, and worked an AO-27 pass from
grid DM22gp at 2039 UTC.  I logged 11 QSOs, and probably lost a bit of
weight in sweat from the humid 115F/46C heat.

After working that pass, I met up with David XE2DAK, and we decided
to make a quick trip south of Mexicali onto the Laguna Salada dry
lakebed just across 32 degrees South to grid DM21.  As we were reaching
the southern edge of Mexicali, we stopped in grid DM22hn for the west-
coast AO-27 pass around 2221 UTC to make 6 QSOs.  Then we continued the
drive to grid DM21.

Once we parked at the same spot I used in February, along route 5
connecting the border with the seaside town of San Felipe further to
the south, I worked an AO-51 pass just after 0000 UTC followed by an
FO-29 pass as XE2DAK took pictures and video.  Twenty contacts were
logged on AO-51, and then 5 more QSOs on the FO-29 pass.  David and
I saw trucks with Mexican Army soldiers going north on the highway,
including one very-well-armed Humvee, but nobody stopped to ask what
we were doing on the side of the road.  When those two passes wrapped
up, we returned to Mexicali for the evening where we met up with Alex
XE2BSS/N2IX and Larry KI6YAA.

On Friday (30 July), there wasn't much operating.  I was with Alex
XE2BSS/N2IX and his family in Mexicali for the day, and I did not try
working satellites until late in the afternoon.  From the "Ciudad
Deportiva" (Sport City) athletic complex near the USA border in Mexicali
(grid DM22gp), a place I worked from in 2009, I worked an AO-7 pass
followed by an FO-29 pass. Two QSOs on AO-7, and 5 on FO-29.  Not too
bad, considering AO-51 was down at this point and I wasn't planning to
stay there for later passes.  Larry KI6YAA and Larry Jr. KI6ZXU came
over to see me work these passes, and KI6YAA took video of those passes.
I also received the XE2/KI6YAA QSL cards from his trip to DM10/DM11
on the Pacific side of Baja California the previous weekend, a very
nice bonus.  :-)

Saturday (31 July) was my last day in Mexicali.  Another hot day in
the desert valley out there, around sea level, and I worked only one
pass.  AO-27 was going by in the mid-afternoon, and I was giving
another demonstration for local hams in that area at XE2DAK's house
(grid DM22go).  Ten QSOs went in the log on this pass.  A few hours
later, I crossed back into the USA and drove home that evening.  A
quick, and fun, trip.  :-)  I will post some videos on YouTube from
this trip in a few days.  Thanks to all the stations that made
contacts with XE2/WD9EWK!

QSL cards... I am finishing up the design of all the QSL cards from
my Canada trip last month, and now will add the printing of additional
XE2/WD9EWK cards from last weekend.  I have received many requests for
VA7EWK QSLs, and a few requests for XE2/WD9EWK QSLs.  I will attempt
to mail all of those cards in the same envelope, and I hope to start
mailing them out in the coming week.  There is no need to send me an
SASE, but I do appreciate them when they show up with the QSLs.  I *do*
want to receive QSLs for VA7EWK and XE2/WD9EWK, to see how close I can
get to various awards while operating from these two countries.

July 2010 was definitely my busiest month for travel with satellite
operating, with 1879 miles (3024km) of driving in Canada in addition
to the distance covered by the flights between Phoenix and Vancouver,
followed by 679 miles (1091km) of driving on the 3-day trip to Mexicali.
And many grids - 9 from Canada, plus DM21 and DM22 in Baja California.
Maybe not a record in terms of numbers of grids (ND9M's trip earlier
this year will have that covered for a long time!), but certainly a good
way to get some that are not normally heard in the log.  It was a fun
month, and I have already started thinking about potential destinations
for "road trips" later this year and in 2011.

73!







Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/




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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 22:30:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: John Heath <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Connector Loss ?
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <871812.57910.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Satelliters,
?
Setting up a?shack at the new QTH.
?
Does anyone have? measured loss figures for "N" type connectors in a cable
run on 145 MHz and 437.
?
I have seen 0.5dB per connector quoted but have no idea if this accurate,
theoretical, ?or measured.
?
?
73 John G7HIA
?

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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 01:31:00 +0200
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Connector Loss ?
To: "John Heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "Amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000d01cb342d$193d1fc0$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Heath" <g7hia@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 05, 2010 12:30 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Connector Loss ?

Hi Satelliters,

Setting up a shack at the new QTH.

Does anyone have measured loss figures for "N" type connectors in a cable
run on 145 MHz and 437.

I have seen 0.5dB per connector quoted but have no idea if this accurate,
theoretical, or measured.


73 John G7HIA

Hi John, G7HIA

A good quality N connector has an insertion loss of 0.15 dB at 10 GHz .Look
here !

http://www.amphenolrf.com/products/typen.asp?N=0&sid=4C58AD80EF3E17F&

73" de

i8CVS Domenico





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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 23:17:10 -0400
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os@xxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: TubeSats - DIY Satellites
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <201008042317.11622.ku4os@xxx.xx.xxx>
Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"

All satellites must be operated as part of a licensed service.  To the best of
my knowledge there is no equivalent to the FCC's Part 15 for satellite
operations.  Further since it is required that all satellites have the
capability of being commanded off, two-way communication is also aways
required.  It is a mistake I see frequently that people think that local rules
regarding low power RF emitters can be applied to a project with international
implications like a satellite.


73,
Lee-KU4OS

On Wednesday, July 28, 2010 12:22:58 pm George Henry wrote:
> Quote:  "If the your (sic) TubeSat application does not require two-way
> communications, a radio operator's license is not required"
>
>
> Downlink frequencies available:  amateur 433 MHz 500 mW, "license-free" 902
> - 928 MHz or 2.400 - 2.4835 GHz, 100 mW - 1000 mW "selectable"
>
> Last I knew, 902 - 928 MHz had no US or international allocation
> for satellite downlink use, the amateur downlink frequency conflicts with
> the US band plan (the launch company is US-based), and isn't the
> space-to-earth allocation at 2400 - 2483.5 ONLY for amateur radio
> satellites?
>
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>
> > From: Rich Dailey <richdailey@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Sent: Wed, July 28, 2010 7:28:46 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] TubeSats - DIY Satellites
> >
> > http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128740683
> >
> > http://www.interorbital.com/TubeSat_1.htm
> >
> > Rich, N8UX.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2010 21:03:43 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 Mode Change Aug 5
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <29E456EF-134C-4BE6-B118-CDF002514EE7@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>> ... On 5 August from approximately 9:55 utc to 21:05 utc AO-51 will be
running the 435.150 telemetry transmitter ON at 340 mW and the 435.300
voice transmitter at about 470 mW with PL tone activation of the
transmitter ...

WHEW - I saw the date, and worried that this might affect our demo Aug 6
0024 GMT / 5:24PM Pacific Daylight Time that Gordon West and I are conducting.

Clint, K6LCS
909-241-7666


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 5 Aug 2010 11:21:42 EDT
From: Cotejaune2@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Correction Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net Aug 05
On	N2EYH-L
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <93172.65036f91.398c3106@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Tonight August 05 The Hudson Valley Satcom Group Net at 8 PM EST on
N2EYH-L. Please join us for the net.
73 Gary/WA2AQH


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