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Today's Topics:
1. AO-27 Audio 12March2010 1957z (John Papay)
2. K4T on FO-29 at 2348 UTC this afternoon/evening (Tim - N3TL)
3. Antenna setup (Louis House, KD5GM)
4. FT847 and Lightning (Joel Black)
5. Re: FT847 and Lightning (Jeff KB2M)
6. Re: Antenna setup (Joe Fitzgerald)
7. Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z (newsradio6@xxxxx.xxxx
8. Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
9. Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z (newsradio6@xxxxx.xxxx
10. test (claude boutru)
11. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 117 (Alan Kung)
12. Seeking Input - Possible North Dakota operation (Tim - N3TL)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 15:28:33 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-27 Audio 12March2010 1957z
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Here's an audio recording of the AO-27 pass on
12 March 2010 at 1957z. Great signals from K4T and
he managed to work it all the way down to his horizon
at the end of the 7 minute repeater portion of the pass.
http://www.papays.com/AO-27_12Mar2010_195733z.mp3
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:45:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] K4T on FO-29 at 2348 UTC this afternoon/evening
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hey everyone,
On the 2130-ish UTC pass of AO-51, Mark, N8MH,?was QRV from?K4T and said he
plans to work CW during the pass of FO-29 That he should get AOS for at
roughly 2348 UTC. The satellite will be moving southwest from Europe.
73,
Tim - N3TL
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:17:14 -0600
From: "Louis House, KD5GM" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna setup
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Jacob,
>From my point of view and short time experience, The description of your
proposed set up would yield favorable results. I am using an 11 element 2m
yagi and a 432 16 element both mounted vertically (with az/el). most of my
worked passes are in the 10 to 35 degree range and the signals are fairly
good and readable most of the time. Working the Birds without optimum
conditions is still a ton of fun.
73
LOUIS, KD5GM
CW, The original digital mode
Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:32:20 -0500
From: "Jacob Tennant" <k8jwt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna setup
To: "Amsat BB" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <000001cac183$dbfd2f40$93f78dc0$@xxx>
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Hello everyone,
I have a antenna setup question as I am new to satellite operations
so please bear with me...
I have a 2meter beam and a 70cm beam from my former adventures into
VHF weak signal operations and was wondering about using them for satellite
work.
Was thinking that since I don't have a az/el rotator yet, if I set
them up on a single cross-boom with the TV rotator I have now, angle them
with the elements at 45 degree angles and the booms angled 30 to 40 degrees
front end up I might be able to get some decent ability into the FM
satellites (AO51, SO50, AO27, ISS).
I already have the good coax for them (LMR-400) and a duplexor for
my FT-857D. Was going to try to install the antennas on top of my storage
building with a height of approx. 16 feet. That's the highest structure I
can get onto that belongs to me.
Any alternate ideas or advice is always welcome as I said before this is all
new to me.
Jacob Tennant - K8JWT
Morgantown,WV FM09ap
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:32:58 -0600
From: Joel Black <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT847 and Lightning
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B9ADD3A.1010006@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I appreciate everyone who has responded to my incessant questions here
lately regarding radios, etc.. Tuesday morning, I took a hit to my
VHF/UHF vertical antenna. It came into the ham shack and got the
following equipment:
FT-847
FT-8100
RS-35A
either the LVB Tracker, the G5400 controller or both (the G5400
controller is sluggish and the LVB tracker doesn't even turn on)
cable modem
router
my PC's NIC
my kids' PC's NIC
and reset a couple of GFI outlets throughout the house.
I have been asking the questions of the radios because I have an FT857
that I was not in use at the time; however, it does not have full duplex
capability. I really like the 857 and wouldn't mind having another, but
the FT817 would be (from what I read) a great little receiver and it's a
bit less expensive (I can add filters to it at that cost). As for the
847, I work in telecom and I know what kind of damage you fight from a
lightning strike. I could send it to Yaesu, but when it comes back,
I'll be fighting with it from now on. I just don't want to spend $500
for repairs only to have to send it back six months later for repairs
again. I'll try to fix it, but that's going to be kind of slow - it'll
also make for a good teacher.
As for the rotor controller, I was already going to completely take down
the HEO antenna array and put up either homebrew eggbeaters or
turnstiles. The 22 elements on 2m and 44 elements on 70cm are a tad
overkill for what is up there and they need work. I really want to put
a hexbeam up on that tower anyway. :)
I guess I'm looking for advice. Do I send the radio to Yaesu for repair
or purchase a companion for the 857? Any other advice is also welcome.
Folks, unplug and disconnect everything. We had another lightning storm
last night. At 3am, my wife woke me and said, "Honey, there's
light..." I ran into the hamshack and just pulled everything out of the
wall. It's funny looking back on it, but I still have a sick feeling in
my stomach.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:08:53 -0500
From: "Jeff KB2M" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT847 and Lightning
To: "'Joel Black'" <jbblack68@xxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001201cac249$bf9d7910$3ed86b30$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Joel, I took a lightning hit with my 847 in 1997. It was a big one, took
out my sat tv, phone, TNC's , KCT card, computer's, etc. I had
disconnected the antennas, power, everything except the modem(remember
them?), that's where it got in, through the phone line, to the rs-232 port.
I had an APRS station I left up and didn't disconnect during the event and
it was fine! Go figure. To make a long story short I sent the 847 in that
was only 3 weeks old to be looked at. Yaesu graciously fixed it under
warranty. I was also Leary about keeping a lightning compromised radio after
a lightning hit but I really didn't want to sell it to anyone so I kept it.
Now 11 years later it is still working the birds! So you never know, good
luck if you decide to go for the repair.
73 Jeff kb2m
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Joel Black
Sent: Friday, March 12, 2010 19:33 PM
To: AMSAT
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT847 and Lightning
I appreciate everyone who has responded to my incessant questions here
lately regarding radios, etc.. Tuesday morning, I took a hit to my
VHF/UHF vertical antenna. It came into the ham shack and got the
following equipment:
FT-847
FT-8100
RS-35A
either the LVB Tracker, the G5400 controller or both (the G5400
controller is sluggish and the LVB tracker doesn't even turn on)
cable modem
router
my PC's NIC
my kids' PC's NIC
and reset a couple of GFI outlets throughout the house.
I have been asking the questions of the radios because I have an FT857
that I was not in use at the time; however, it does not have full duplex
capability. I really like the 857 and wouldn't mind having another, but
the FT817 would be (from what I read) a great little receiver and it's a
bit less expensive (I can add filters to it at that cost). As for the
847, I work in telecom and I know what kind of damage you fight from a
lightning strike. I could send it to Yaesu, but when it comes back,
I'll be fighting with it from now on. I just don't want to spend $500
for repairs only to have to send it back six months later for repairs
again. I'll try to fix it, but that's going to be kind of slow - it'll
also make for a good teacher.
As for the rotor controller, I was already going to completely take down
the HEO antenna array and put up either homebrew eggbeaters or
turnstiles. The 22 elements on 2m and 44 elements on 70cm are a tad
overkill for what is up there and they need work. I really want to put
a hexbeam up on that tower anyway. :)
I guess I'm looking for advice. Do I send the radio to Yaesu for repair
or purchase a companion for the 857? Any other advice is also welcome.
Folks, unplug and disconnect everything. We had another lightning storm
last night. At 3am, my wife woke me and said, "Honey, there's
light..." I ran into the hamshack and just pulled everything out of the
wall. It's funny looking back on it, but I still have a sick feeling in
my stomach.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:59:48 -0500
From: "Joe Fitzgerald" <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Antenna setup
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxx
Cc: 'Amsat BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <58e843a1c5d1b711b19d178ae019f6df.squirrel@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
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>
> Yes, NEVER higher than 15 degrees. You don't need the gain much
> above the horizon where the satellite is up to 10 dB CLOSER.
Bob,
Looks like you Navy guys have been using this technique since the early
1960's. Check out the photo "Radio Control Hut & Team Overseas" on
http://www.globalsecurity.org/space/systems/grab.htm
-Joe KM1P
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:06:04 +0000
From: newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z
To: "Amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<966295573-1268420749-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1925734382-@xxx
xxx.xxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
John, are they on echo main reptr or on the qrp repeater? We didn't hear
them on last nights echo pass at 1700hrs est...
John
Va3bL
------Original Message------
From: John Papay
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: Amsat bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z
Sent: Mar 12, 2010 1:52 PM
Mark was loud and clear on AO-27 on the first PM
AO-27 pass out over the Atlantic. He reported that
their preamps and antennas are working now and
they have plenty of transmit power to be heard.
Thanks to those who provided wiring info for their
preamps. They are definitely hearing better. Many
stations were worked on this pass.
73,
John K8YSE
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:19:12 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z
To: newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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<4be5f191003121819k22c6fb8bu7c2d661cc7b05f66@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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They are on the QRP repeater.
73
Dave KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID
On Mar 12, 2010 9:14 PM, <newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
John, are they on echo main reptr or on the qrp repeater? We didn't hear
them on last nights echo pass at 1700hrs est...
John
Va3bL
------Original Message------
From: John Papay
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: Amsat bb
Subje...
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:23:16 +0000
From: newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z
To: "Amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<2067390524-1268446981-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-1026110760-@xx
xxxx.xxxx.xxxx.xx.xxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
Thanks...just caught them on 20m this evening but they're supposed to be on
the sats full time too.
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:19:12
To: <newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat bb<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re: K4T AO-27 12Mar2010 1818z
They are on the QRP repeater.
73
Dave KB1PVH
Sent from my Verizon Wireless DROID
On Mar 12, 2010 9:14 PM, <newsradio6@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
John, are they on echo main reptr or on the qrp repeater? We didn't hear
them on last nights echo pass at 1700hrs est...
John
Va3bL
------Original Message------
From: John Papay
Sender: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
To: Amsat bb
Subje...
Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network.
Envoy? sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le r?seau de Bell.
_______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 11:56:31 +0100
From: "claude boutru" <f5gva-1@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] test
To: "Amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <81A163B66CF04EEDA606AF0A975832C5@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
test
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 00:15:35 +0800
From: "Alan Kung" <alankung@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 117
To: "Bill Dzurilla" <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <002a01cac2c8$95850150$6c01a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hi Bill,
Yes, "Digital Transponder" means packet function.
Strictly it is not a digital mode transponder on HO-68. It is data
store-forward
transfer over analog FM RF channel. the link layer protocol based on the
AX.25, and applications layer protocol used PACSAT.
73
Alan Kung, BA1DU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Dzurilla" <billdz.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 13, 2010 3:29 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 117
Alan,
Thank you very much for your great work with HO-68 and for your effort to
solve the voice/packet problem.
I do not entirely follow the schedule, however. Does "Digital Transponder"
mean packet? Where it says:
> 14 Mar. 2010, Digital Transponder
> ================================
> 16:45...Turn On--Linear Transponder
> India, Africa, Middle East,
> Europe,NA
> 17:30...Turn Off
does that mean digital (packet) or linear (SSB)? Does it mean that the
linear transponder will be active on 14 March and 15 March and that the rest
of thw week is digital only?
Please clarify if possible.
73, Bill NZ5N
> Message: 14
> Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 00:07:41 +0800
> From: "Alan Kung" <alankung@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 Schedule - 14-21 Mar 2010
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Message-ID:
> <009201cac1fe$35fc6db0$6c01a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain;
> charset="gb2312"
>
> Hello all,
>
> I got a lot of responses about problem of digital mode
> through HO-68. The main problem is that Packet
> communication
> is often interrupted by voice. We are trying a new schedule
>
> in this week, voice and packet operations will be separated
>
> by the schedule, of course, this just depends on the
> hams'own
> discipline. If you have any comment and suggestion, please
>
> let me know.
>
>
> 14 Mar. 2010, Digital Transponder
> ================================
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2010 09:35:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Tim - N3TL <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Seeking Input - Possible North Dakota operation
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <691980.74893.qm@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Hey everyone,
I'll be making?a?quick trip to North Dakota tomorrow (Sunday, March 14), and
have the possibility of operating portable from DN96.
However, the only satellite pass that I know with certainty that I can work
is the 0345-ish UTC Monday (Sunday evening in North America) pass of HO-68,
which has a maximum elevation of almost 70 degrees to my location in DN96.
Alan Kung has asked that the orbit in question be reserved for packet in his
latest schedule - and this is where I'm writing to seek input from the
operators who will be in the footprint during this orbit.
First and most importantly - does anyone need North Dakota and/or DN96?
Second - if there IS interest in FM voice contacts during that particular
orbit, will any packet operators reading this please respond with your
thoughts about having roughly 10 minutes of voice contacts - maximum -
during that orbit?
I am not checking luggage, so will be carrying only my HT and a whip
antenna. Given HO-68's outstanding performance and the path of this pass, I
believe I should be able to work the satellite consistently on that handheld
station from roughly 0345 UTC to 0355 UTC.
I will be happy to activate North Dakota and DN96 if there is interest, and
if the packet operators who plan to use HO-68 are OK with this 10-minute
window of FM voice operation on Sunday evening.
I'll also be happy to avoid the pass if there are major concerns.
There is one AO-51 pass, during the 1300 UTC hour on Monday morning, that I
may be able to work - but I'm not confident that will be the case. I expect
to be in meetings by then, which makes the HO-68 pass in question the only
one I am certain I'll be able to work.
Please post any input to the BB so that everyone can see any feedback I get.
Thanks in advance for your time and thoughts.
73 to all,
Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
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