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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Patrick at Yuma (Clint Bradford)
2. Re: Elk antenna as carry on luggage? (Luc Leblanc)
3. Re: Patrick at Yuma (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Patrick at Yuma (Clint Bradford)
5. KO4MA and Pile Up (Angelo Glorioso)
6. k4bix/h - em55?? (Michae J. Wolthuis)
7. Re: k4bix/h - em55?? (Rick - WA4NVM)
8. Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 would be
the next best step for satellite work. ( Jack KZ4USA)
9. ND9M Road Trip Update #13 (claryco@xxx.xxxx
10. Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 , mm (MM)
11. Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100 , mm
(Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
12. AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording (John Papay)
13. AO-51 V/S (graham mcphee)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 12:56:48 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Patrick at Yuma
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Great work, Patrick!
That's two great "smaller" ham fests in a month. The Palm Springs Desert
RATS put on a great one-day show a couple weekends ago, and then your Yuma
experience.
Organizers of the "big" three-day affairs are watching and listening ....
Clint, K6LCS
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 04:19:08 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk antenna as carry on luggage?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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On 21 Feb 2010 at 11:04, Tim Tuck wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 11:04:21 +1100
From: Tim Tuck <timt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Elk antenna as carry on luggage?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> On 21/02/2010 7:00 AM, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> > Anybody know for sure if an Elk antenna is an acceptable carry on
luggage item? Disassembled, and rolled up in a bag, for example.
> >
> > Or am I going to have to check it in?
> >
> >
> Hi Mark,
>
> Stick it in your suitcase and it will be fine,
>
> Last time I was in the USA on business I brought one back home to VK
> with it stuck diagonally across in my suitcase and I had no problems
> with customs etc.
>
> regards
>
> Tim
>
> --
I bring my Arrow a couple of time in my checked luggage. i put the elements
in a plastic white plumbing tube with two plastic cap. I wrote
on the tube "Amateur radio portable antenna (HAM RADIO)" I found the TSA
checking card in my suitcase and the electrical tape i put to
sealed the cap where still there they don't even open the tube.
For the carry on it is another story it is 100% sure that i will be put on
the side table to have my carry on checked read suitcase
completely open with all the carefully stowed stuff put out on the table to
be sniffed by the electronic nose and explain in details to the
TSA agent who is normally not too easy in public relation...
If things seems to get worse just ask to speak his officer in charge. TSA
have complaint forms that you can ask it is usually your last
tool to try to speed up things but thoses trick should be used if you feel
the TSA agent is going no where in his checking process aside of
making you lost time.
Ways to suggest things to TSA agents: "While you check my carry on can i
speak to the officer in charge?" Normally this is quite effective
and Its is even written on
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/civilrights/travelers.shtm here is an excerpt:
______________________________________________________________________________
____________
During travel: While you are still at the checkpoint, you can ask to speak
with a supervisor about the incident. You can also ask to speak
with the Customer Service Manager for the airport. Depending on the time of
day during which you are traveling or the size of the airport,
the Customer Service Manager may not be readily accessible to you at the
airport.
After traveling: You may contact the External Compliance Division of TSA's
Office of Civil Rights and Liberties to file a complaint.
Our mailing address is:
Transportation Security Administration
Office of Civil Rights and Liberties (TSA-6)
External Compliance Division
601 S. 12th Street
Arlington, VA 20598
Our email address is:
TSA.OCR-ExternalCompliance@xxx.xxx
Our new complaint form is under construction. Soon you will be able to
complete and submit your complaint online.
______________________________________________________________________________
_____________
Another link of interest
http://www.tsa.gov/what_we_do/civilrights/no_fear.shtm
My last advice don't jammed pack you carry on if the TSA agent is facing a
lightly pack luggage he is "usually" more "happy" to do his
job... and things are going normally quite fast but when he have to dig
through underwear socks and so on things to get to your radio cable
plugs earphone apparatus he's a bit less smily and rule number one don't
speak just answer his questions with short answers and always look
at him during his checking operation.
Making him feel he's making you loosing precious time is also not
recommended as they have a job to do it is better not to interfere but
used your own judgement if you feel he's over-zealous.
I stumble on a "big" TSA women in New York JFK who was checking over an over
a stand HT charger and the battery packs
asking a lot of stupid questions about theses items. It escalate to the "Can
i speak to the officer in charge" the TSA women was not
pleased with my request (Look on her face) but she quickly ended up the
checking process saying " It's OK do you still want to speak to the
officer.. i reply no it's Ok also for me she turned back on move away.
P.S. Metal tent spike used as anchored post to hold your antenna supporting
pole are also the best way to go on the side table at the
checking point just put them in your checked luggage.
Happy flight and next time i will tell you my experience using a portable
scanner and a GPS aboard...my wife commenting at the end of this
affair "Next time i will take a seat 10 row away of you i will have an
embarrassment free flight..." Just read my hamming is tolerated just
up to an certain threshold point.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:28:33 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Patrick at Yuma
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Clint, you going to hit the Visalia DX Convention in April??
John W6ZKH
----- Original Message -----
From: "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2010 12:56:48 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Patrick at Yuma
Great work, Patrick!
That's two great "smaller" ham fests in a month. The Palm Springs Desert
RATS put on a great one-day show a couple weekends ago, and then your Yuma
experience.
Organizers of the "big" three-day affairs are watching and listening ....
Clint, K6LCS
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 13:36:11 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Patrick at Yuma
To: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Not going to Visalia ... But Pacificon and SANDARC-San Diego later this year!
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 16:31:21 -0600
From: "Angelo Glorioso" <n5uxt@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KO4MA and Pile Up
To: "AMSATBBS" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Drew,
It was awesome the way you handled the pile up. Answering multiple
callsign at the same time.
You have my vote for the next Satellite DX Expedition. HI HI :-)
73 de Angelo
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 17:42:48 -0500
From: "Michae J. Wolthuis" <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] k4bix/h - em55??
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Just worked a station close to the above callsign, but I must have miss
typed it. Anyone else copy and can tell me what I got wrong in the call?
Not on qrz.
Thanks, Drew glad I was able to get yah from GA!
Mike
Kb8zgl
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 21:27:02 -0600
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: k4bix/h - em55??
To: "Michae J. Wolthuis" <wolthui3@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Mike,
I listened to that pass this afternoon. The station you worked in EM55
was Alan, KJ4BIX.
Have fun on the birds,
Rick WA4NVM
> Just worked a station close to the above callsign, but I must have miss
> typed it. Anyone else copy and can tell me what I got wrong in the call?
> Not on qrz.
>
>
>
> Thanks, Drew glad I was able to get yah from GA!
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> Kb8zgl
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 21 Feb 2010 23:36:46 -0500
From: " Jack KZ4USA" <videorov@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a
Icom-9100 would be the next best step for satellite work.
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <393E6FC543714F2196F269B62B59D800@xxxxxx>
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Jack
KZ4USA
Bradenton, Florida
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 00:35:38 -0500
From: claryco@xxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ND9M Road Trip Update #13
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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We wound up having to stay put for the day. We needed to buy auto insurance
for driving in Mexico, but every sales office was closed for the day.
With the unexpected time available, I took advantage of the deferred AO51
mode change and operated from the EL15/EL16 during the late afternoon pass.
My thanks go to the AO51 Ops Team for the heads up that the switch would be
delayed by a day.
I'll do the EL15/EL16 line again on Tuesday (vice Monday). It'll be from a
different spot on the grid line though; the place I set up today was a
mosquito fiesta. I couldn't keep the Arrow antenna aimed at the satellite
because I was swatting so many bugs! (If you're old enough to remember the
"Off" commercial from the 60s with the actor's arm inside the mosquito tank,
you can appreciate what I found.)
73,
Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC
Brownsville, TX / EL15
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:32:54 -0800 (PST)
From: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a
Icom-9100 , mm
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Jack KZ4USA <videorov@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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My concerns about the Icom IC-9100 are as follows:
When you add HF to a satellite radio you reduce the performance of the
satellite bands. What we want for Satellite, EME and DX Terrestrial is a
very high performance VHF/UHF receiver, with excellent sensitivity and
selectivity. We do not need or want HF in a VHF/UHF DX radio. A good
satellite radio should not contain HF.
IC-9100 Receiver is only a Double Conversion, (better than the 910 which is
a single conversion)
IC-9100 TX power output is too high for 2-meter and 70cm for satellite work.
2-meters 100 watts, 70cm 75 watts.
Let me explain:
For serious Terrestrial DX and EME you need to run more than 100 watts. The
output level of the 9100 is too high to match most solid-state and tube
amplifiers.
Most VHF/UHF amps are designed for 25 or 50 watts maximum input. Since the
IC-9100 puts out 100 watts you will eventually forget to set you TX power
level and you will destroy your external amplifier.
The manufactures of Transceivers and Amplifies need to agree upon a set of
standard power level so the amplifiers and transceiver can be properly
matched without worrying about destroying the amplifiers.
Suggested standards for VHF/UHF bases stations:
6 Meters 50 watts
2 Meters 25 watts
70 cm 25 watts
900 mc 10 watts
1.2 gig 10 watts
External Preamps:
Again for serious DX and satellite work, most use very high quality external
pre-amps. The Icom IC-910 required Icom externals pre-amps to compensate
for the Single conversion receiver. The Icom preamps did work, however
there specifications (Gain 15 dB 2-meters) were not as good as other
external third party pre-amplifiers (20-25 db 2-Meters), and they were also
limited to 100 watts of RF. It is not known if the Ic-9100 will also
required similar Icom external Preamps.
Dated Design:
The design of the IC-910 was dated when it went into production. The
IC-9100 has built-in DSP and a few more bands, however it is still out of
date for what the EME/Satellite/DX community needs for this century.
IC-9100 Potential Good features:
Built in IF-DSP (32 big and 24bid ADC)
What do we want for this century for Terrestrial DX, EME and Satellite:
Dedicated TX and RX for VHF and UHF.
Digital filters (similar to a Ic-756 pro III and newer radios)
Band Scope.
TX power to match external amplifiers.
RX Quad conversion receiver.
Full USB computer control (Not RS-232, Not TTL, Interface must include
memory channels with the Repeater off-set bit, which is usually omitted by
Icom)
Satellite mode knob 100% Identical to the Satellite mode knob on the Yaesu
736R.
My ideal rig would look like the Icom IC-756 Pro III.
It would not contain any HF.
The whole RX and TX system including digital filters would be designed just
for the following bands:
6 Meters 50 watts
2 Meters 25 watts
70 cm 25 watts
900 mc 10 watts
1.2 gig 10 watts
Additional RX/TX filters for satellite reception.
It would also have the Satellite Mode switch of the Yaesu 736R, placed in a
similar location on the Rig.
Multiple Line level audio outputs for computer interfacing to support
digital modes such as JT65 and other modes.
Just my wish list.
wf1f Miles
www.marexmg.org
--- On Sun, 2/21/10, Jack KZ4USA <videorov@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Jack KZ4USA <videorov@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a Icom-9100
would be the next best step for satellite work.
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sunday, February 21, 2010, 11:36 PM
>
> Jack
> KZ4USA
> Bradenton, Florida
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 14:49:53 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Have a TS-2000 and wonder if the Flex or a
Icom-9100 , mm
To: MM <ka1rrw@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B829991.6050303@xxxxx.xxx>
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You're unlikely to get 900Mc/S on a Japanese radio as most of the world
doesn't have that allocation.
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 09:50:51 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 20Feb2010 2259z Recording
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <132126.49615.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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A recording of the AO-51 pass on 20Feb2010 at 2259z is on my
webserver:
http://www.papays.com/AO-51_20Feb2010_225938z.mp3
This was a very busy pass with ND9M/p in EL07/EL08 and WD9EWK/p in DM22
at the Yuma Hamfest. Many of you are not full duplex and don't know what you
sound like on the bird so here's your chance to hear yourself.
There are over 30 different callsigns on this recording including:
N5AFV, KD4N0Q, WA4HFN, N8RO, WA5KBH, KP4WK, KF4OTG, N5UXT, KB0RZD,
ND9M/P, K4YYL, K7NN, KB0RZE, KB8ZGL, N1XED, KJ4PSU, VA3BL, N8MH,
?4NDA/HH, KD8CAO, N2BX, WD9EWK/P KZ4WAT, KB9AVO, KD0HKR, WB1AAT,
N0JE, ?OF, ?QYH, VE7CNA, KE7DOV. K8YSE
KE7DOV appeared at the end of the pass operating portable from CN76 a rare
coastal grid.
Although there was a lot of instances of several stations
transmitting at the same time, overall the number of successful qso's
was good. It is rare when more than 30 stations are heard on a
single pass of AO-51. It was a 32 degree elevation, 13 minute
horizon to horizon pass for me.
AO-51 is a great bird. Those who had a hand in designing and
building this satellite can be very proud of their accomplishment.
73,
John K8YSE EN91dh
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 06:25:37 +1100
From: "graham mcphee" <gemcphee@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 V/S
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E4B600D7111947B3BAB6CDCBBF0A13EE@xxxx>
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Could I have an indication when AO-51 will change to V/S mode please
Graham
VK2AYE
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