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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-7 feat! (Andrew Glasbrenner)
2. Re: Logging software (Tim - N3TL)
3. Re: AO-7 feat! (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: AO-7 feat! (Tim - N3TL)
5. Re: LEO/cube sat for sale 8000$ (Alan P. Biddle)
6. Re: Logging software (Alan P. Biddle)
7. FT3000m on FM sats (Juan Antonio Fernandez)
8. Re: AO-7 feat! (Dee)
9. Re: AO-7 feat! (Dale Hershberger)
10. Re: HO-68 on LOTW? (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
11. Re: AO-7 feat! (Rocky Jones)
12. Re: Life Members (Rocky Jones)
13. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25 (Rocky Jones)
14. Re: FO-29 schedule Jan, Feb. (PE0SAT)
15. Is HO-68 working? (E. Kafetzopoulos)
16. Re^3: FO-29 schedule Jan, Feb. (Mineo Wakita)
17. Re: AO-7 feat! (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
18. Re: Logging software (Larry Gerhardstein)
19. Re: AO-7 feat! (Andrew Glasbrenner)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:11:00 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B521D54.8090108@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from
WC7V in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is
about 7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
>
>
>
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
>
Nice work Bob! Was this on SSB or CW? I'm so jealous of you high
latitude guys.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:17:02 -0500
From: "Tim - N3TL" <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Logging software
To: "'Louis House'" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <201001162017.o0GKH3Ga077048@xxxxx.xxx>
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The Ham Radio Deluxe Logbook (V 5.0, Build 2356) includes fields for
Satellite Name and Satellite Mode - but I don't know what you'll have to do
to get LoTW to recognize them.
73,
Tim - N3TL
Athens, Ga. - EM84ha
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Louis House
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 2:20 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging software
sssshhhhhh,
I need in for just a second, please..? Can someone tell me if there is a
logging software that keeps track of QSO data and will produce the ?proper
ADI file too include the SAT Name?and Propagation mode.? LoTW will not
recognize my SAT QSOs for certificate credit.?? I prefer to not spend hours
editing ADI files to include this needed information will be greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks,?Louis, KD5GM
CW ;-) The Original Digital?
?Louis, KD5GM
CW ;-) The Original Digital
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:25:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Congrat's to Kerry for this feat, as saw it on the AO-7 log this
morning......... I second the last sentence....
John W6ZKH
annual dues payer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:40:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 feat!
To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from WC7V
in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is about
7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
73 Bob W7LRD
Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:29:35 -0500
From: "Tim - N3TL" <n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: "'Andrew Glasbrenner'" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Bob-
W7LRD'" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Not too far north of you, Argentina is out of the question. I guess jealousy
is in the grid square of the beholder....
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Andrew Glasbrenner
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:11 PM
To: Bob- W7LRD
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from
WC7V in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is
about 7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
>
>
>
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
>
Nice work Bob! Was this on SSB or CW? I'm so jealous of you high
latitude guys.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:21:11 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: LEO/cube sat for sale 8000$
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Tubesats/Cansats are very interesting for some uses. Bob Twiggs is big on
them, and is so far as I know their launch customer. However, there are a
lot of issues which need to be addressed if you are interested in a
relatively long term, sophisticated satellite such as we need. In many
cases, the answer to a question about "how are you going to do _____" is a
blank look, or "we are working on that." ;) I wish them luck.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: 15 January, 2010 23:35
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] LEO/cube sat for sale 8000$
For those who are still dreaming for a HEO in the mean time just check
below you can have your own LEO/tube sat satellite for 8000$ launch
included payable with the major credit card and you even have payment
options!
I'm just waiting to see one of them on E-Bay
As they said "TubeSats are designed to be orbit-friendly. Launches are
expected to begin in December of 2010." Probably the replacing
solution for our aging AMSAT-NA satellite fleet? Anyone with 8000$ can own
his own satellite let me guess in a couple of years the same
repeater frenzy will also reach the amateur satellite world. No more need of
club or organization or IARU frequencies coordination .
The perfect world...
http://interorbital.com/TubeSat_1.htm
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:21:11 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Logging software
To: "'Louis House'" <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Louis,
>From first hand experience, I know that DXKeeper, part of the DX Lab Suite,
works perfectly with both LoTW and eQSL for satellite contacts.
http://www.dxlabsuite.com/download.htm
There is a moderate learning curve, as with all programs, but I have found
the result worth it.
Ham Radio Deluxe has a new log book package which seems to have all the
needed data.
http://www.ham-radio-deluxe.com/
I have not tested it, however, as DXKeeper covers my needs.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Louis House
Sent: 16 January, 2010 13:20
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging software
sssshhhhhh,
I need in for just a second, please..? Can someone tell me if there is a
logging software that keeps track of QSO data and will produce the ?proper
ADI file too include the SAT Name?and Propagation mode.? LoTW will not
recognize my SAT QSOs for certificate credit.?? I prefer to not spend hours
editing ADI files to include this needed information will be greatly
appreciated.
Many thanks,?Louis, KD5GM
CW ;-) The Original Digital?
?Louis, KD5GM
CW ;-) The Original Digital
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 22:48:46 +0100
From: Juan Antonio Fernandez <ea4cyq@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT3000m on FM sats
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi John
I have a FT300M in my movil station for years. It works great with FM sats
with 1/4 whip on the roof. You will only need a headset if you want to work
in full-duplex, although in half-duplex also works fine beacuse of its high
power, near of 70 Watts.
But I enjoy receiving with a UHF hand held HT and a CJU antenna attached to
it and using the FT3000M with a 1/4 whip antenna to uplink.
You can see some videos at:
http://eb4dka.laserenadigital.com
http://personales.ya.com/ea4cax/
Juan Antonio
EA4CYQ
73s
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 13:15:35 -0800 (PST)
From: John Geiger <aa5jg@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Has anyone on the list used a Yaesu FT3000M on the Mode J FM sats? Does it
have pretty good receive sensitivity for the birds? Can it do full duplex,
where you can hear your own downlink? What I have seen written about it
seems to indicate that it can. Any other comments-good or bad-about this
model?
73s John AA5JG
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:54:25 -0500
From: Dee <morsesat@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx "'Bob- W7LRD'" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'amsat-bb' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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And this is NOT including the distance to the satellite and from the
satellite. I always kid with the DX Association people
As most of the time if I have a table for AMSAT at a hamfest I am located
nearby. I ask them how far they have talked - Max being
Halfway around the world. I said I made a contact with Fairlawn, NJ (about
12 airmiles from me but 39,000kms up and 39,000kms back down on AO-40..Hi,
Hi! They always look puzzled and so do the closeby "Listener's!
Congrats on the contact!
73,
Dee, NB2F
Wait, am I going to be censored for mentioning an HEO bird?
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 3:25 PM
To: Bob- W7LRD
Cc: amsat-bb
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
Congrat's to Kerry for this feat, as saw it on the AO-7 log this
morning......... I second the last sentence....
John W6ZKH
annual dues payer
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:40:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 feat!
To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from WC7V
in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is about
7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
73 Bob W7LRD
Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:59:32 -0900
From: Dale Hershberger <daleh@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
> Congrat's to Kerry for this feat, as saw it on the AO-7 log this
morning......... I second the last sentence....
>
> John W6ZKH
> annual dues payer
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob- W7LRD" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2010 11:40:15 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 feat!
>
>
>
> To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from
WC7V in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is
about 7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
>
>
>
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
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>
Congrats!... Kerry... I have been trying myself...Excellent work.
Dale/kl7xj
Alaska Area Coordinator
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:03:10 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 on LOTW?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Bill!
> Anyone know how to load HO-68 qsos to LOTW? ?I keep
> getting Invalid Satellite Name error.
You may need to e-mail ARRL (lotw @ arrl.org) and ask them
to update LOTW to include HO-68. There is a list of satellites
supported in LOTW at:
https://p1k.arrl.org/lotw/faq#sats
SO-67 is also not on that list.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:04:36 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <COL106-W21E916007034675D6A08D1D6680@xxx.xxx>
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outstanding...
Robert WB5MZO Life member
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 19:40:15 +0000
> From: w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 feat!
>
>
>
> To break away from the current irrelevant thread. A momentous QSO from
WC7V in DN45 to RN1NW in KP71 took place today on AO-7. The distance is
about 7659 km. Great going guys! Streeeeetching to foot print is always a
challenge and fun. I now return you to the current round of bs.
>
>
>
>
> 73 Bob W7LRD
> Washington State AMSAT area coordinator
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:03:57 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Life Members
To: <ke9v@xxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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>
> Since we are going down that path, I just wanted you to know that when I
> read "Life Member" I hear the words "cheap", "discount", "looking for a
> deal", "old fart" in my head.
>
>
> Jeff, KE9V
>
Jeff. I am sure you do and thanks for sharing. It takes a bit of
sophistication and some knowledge to get past that simplistic understanding.
"perpetual memberships" if managed correctly (and with AMSAT I realize that
is a big "IF") are not a "gift" soley for the member, ie give them cheap
membership for life...they really are a gift for the organization and
generally are a win win for both the member and the organization.
BOD who set up perpetual memberships (USNI, ARRL The TAMU Association of
Former Students to name three varying groups) dont do it just to give people
"cheap" membership. They do it to allow the organization "base" money which
when properly invested returns yearly far more then the membership cost (ie
the magazine a percentage of member services etc).
Obviously if an 18 year old invest in a perpetual membership and then
succumbs within a few years...there is some "money made"...but if done
correctly the 18 year olds membership will still be paying for the member
services (again the mag etc) when the 18 year old is many many years older
(far older then just the life membership divided by the average yearly cost
of membership over a period of years).
The "block money" over a given year is invested in a basic block investment
(meaning the preceeding years) and the interest alone, more then works out.
In addition done smartly the sum while drawing interest can be low interest
borrowed against.
when I was President of The community association that our house in Clear
Lake is a part of (and it is far larger then AMSAT NA)...we started "life
memberships" to the various facilities which were also available on a year
to year basis fee. It wasnt hard to set it up...a major brokerage firm did
it for us...and we make money on a "life membership" that last for 40 years
(and that was only because the timelines couldnt be run out any farther)
EVEN IF 50 percent of the residential property owners took advantage of the
offer.
A classmate manages life membership for USNI (United States Naval
Institute) and a few other groups... and they make money on it...and that
includes memberships that start at 22. When I was investigating "perpetual
memberships" for our association I was told by this person that USNI would
make money if over 50 percent of those applying for membership at 22 took
life membership.
I know you need both an arguing point, and doubtless have not thought the
issue of life membership through all that much. Have fun with the arguing
point, I am sure it makes you feel great...
but like most "gut" feelings it is wrong. If AMSAT is not making money off
of a life membership then someone somewhere really fracked up. And sadly
it would not surprise me.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
I became a life member (and urge others to do the same) because it gives the
organization a baseline of financing which to survive.
Robert WB5MZO Life Member
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 16:09:39 -0600
From: Rocky Jones <orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25
To: <kevin.j.smith@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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> From: kevin.j.smith@xxxxxxx.xxx
> To: orbitjet@xxxxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 5, Issue 25
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:35:01 -0500
>
> Robert,
>
> Of course you would give a D minus. .... (I thought Clinton's analogy had
> merit but then I guess I am among the ignorant.)
>
>
> Kevin, N3HKQ
kevin. I dont think you will find a post where I make the claim you do
("Your arguments, comparisons and
> analogies are always spot on and relevant while everyone else's is
> hopelessly and haplessly off the mark.") such a claim is the definition of
hubris and if I do make a comparison you are free to try and refute it or
state how it flounders.
I believe Clinton's flounders because to compare a board which is open in
the public domain to private property which is at the heart of a Free
Republic is in my view cheapening of both the concepts of speech and private
property.
Having traveled a "tad" in the world I have come even more so to value both
notions.
As for "saving people" from themselves. I learned a long time ago that
people who have no personal responsibility can as adults not be taught
it...it is a personal thing
Robert WB5MZO Life Member AMSAT ARRL
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 23:21:57 +0100
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FO-29 schedule Jan, Feb.
To: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20100116222157.CCB1C230AB@xx.xxxxx.xx>
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On Sat, January 16, 2010 12:41, Mineo Wakita wrote:
Hello Mineo Wakita
Thanks for all the information regarding FO-29
> If the TX will be switched on at 2100 UTC on Jan 16,
> then it will be switched off by UVC at 21:24 UTC due entering
> the eclipse.
It didn't switch off :) in JO21ho the pass began on 22:26 CEST (21:26 UTC)
and the old lady was loud and clear during the entire pass.
Here is a recording from that pass:
http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/downloads/FO-29-16012010-2226CEST.mp3
The first 2 minutes there is Beacon CW information and after that a QSO
I had with ON5NY.
73 Jan - PE0SAT
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Message: 15
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 00:30:04 +0200
From: "E. Kafetzopoulos" <ekaf@xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is HO-68 working?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I tried to work HO-68 during the pass over West Europe on 16 Jan 20:20 Z and
no signal was detected during the whole pass. Only at the highest elevation
I noticed a weak echo of the dashes I was puting at the uplink. Am I doing
something wrong (new keplerians, new activation timetable, commissioning
change) or there is a problem in the bird?
73 de SV1EEK
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Message: 16
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 09:18:15 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re^3: FO-29 schedule Jan, Feb.
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm glad to hear your report. Thank you.
I posted it on my web,
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/fo29ecli.htm
> Thanks for all the information regarding FO-29
>
> > If the TX will be switched on at 2100 UTC on Jan 16,
> > then it will be switched off by UVC at about 21:24 UTC due entering
> > the eclipse.
>
> It didn't switch off :) in JO21ho the pass began on 22:26CEST (21:26UTC)
> and the old lady was loud and clear during the entire pass.
>
> Here is a recording from that pass:
>
> http://www.ham.vgnet.nl/downloads/FO-29-16012010-2226CEST.mp3
>
> The first 2 minutes there is Beacon CW information and after that a QSO
> I had with ON5NY.
>
> 73 Jan - PE0SAT
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 17
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:22:39 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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At 03:11 PM 1/16/2010 -0500, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>Nice work Bob! Was this on SSB or CW? I'm so jealous of you high
>latitude guys.
Well, it certainly wasn't on FM. Why couldn't the next LEO be like a new
AO-7 with modern technology? Why does the Board insist on cramming another
single channel bird down our throats?
Oh, and Drew, No need to feel jealous about DX. I heard it's easier to
move farther north than to commit to building a HEO, but I'm still going to
support Amsat-DL anyway.
73, KB7ADL
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Message: 18
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 17:38:09 -0700
From: Larry Gerhardstein <gerhardstein@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Logging software
To: Louis House <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Louis,
I have worked out the VI/VIM macro to edit an ADI file to include the
PROP_MODE field for satellite contacts. Contact me if you need it.
Larry W7IN DN27
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Message: 19
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 20:11:46 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-7 feat!
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:
> Well, it certainly wasn't on FM. Why couldn't the next LEO be like a new
> AO-7 with modern technology? Why does the Board insist on cramming another
> single channel bird down our throats?
>
We looked at building and launching an AO-51 sized satellite with
transponders. The launches we could find prices for were from 400,000 to
700,000 dollars. Do you think we could raise that amount of money in 2-3
years? No one on the BOD did. Those were all 800km or less launches as
well. The low LEOs with transponders, like VO-52, are used by very few
compared to the FM satellites. Furthermore, a 1-U cubesat only generates
about 2w of DC power. That will support a decent FM repeater, but not
much of a transponder.
We have a lead on a set of launches to an AO-7 type orbit, but we really
need some industry type people to help negotiate for us to try to get a
spot on one at a reasonable price. There are very few launches going
above 800km, and they are mostly Russian. Interested parties can email
me with their background and for details if they want to help.
If you recall we also mentioned we were working on a secondary payload
for a large LEO that will be a Mode B transponder. We can't say with who
yet, but isn't this exactly what you are asking why we are not doing? We
also have a university in the Northeast working on a 3U cubesat that
will support a transponder powerwise. This was all laid out in the
donation letter, as well as Barry's Apogee View in the Journal.
So, the BOD isn't cramming anything down your throat. Of the three
projects we have going, two will support transponders. The problem is we
are in a state of flux, and everyone on the BOD thought it was
appropriate to start small and work up, so projects are successful and
timely. I'm sorry if you don't agree with our philosophy.
> Oh, and Drew, No need to feel jealous about DX. I heard it's easier to
> move farther north than to commit to building a HEO, but I'm still going to
> support Amsat-DL anyway.
>
Committing to something you cannot afford to do is not intelligent or
responsible. We can't afford a HEO right now, and this has been
explained a dozen times a dozen ways. Unless -DL gets funding from their
government, they can't afford the THREE MILLION dollars to launch P3E
either. Sucks, but it's time to quit whining and face the facts.
73, Drew KO4MA
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