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Today's Topics:
1. Quartzfest 2010 anyone? (Tom)
2. SatPC32 and CAT control (n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
3. FT817 and SatPc32 (Howard Kowall)
4. Re: FT817 and SatPc32 (Alan P. Biddle)
5. Re: SO-33 (Tim Cunningham)
6. WD9EWK at Glendale AZ "WestFest" - report
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. Re: FT817 and SatPc32 (David Wing)
8. Re: SatPC32 and CAT control (Erich Eichmann)
9. Re: FT817 and SatPc32 (Erich Eichmann)
10. Request for Elmer (myles landstein)
11. Request for Elmer (Peter)
12. SO-67 schedule (Gladys Magagula)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 13:55:30 -0700
From: "Tom" <k0tw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Quartzfest 2010 anyone?
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Anyone planning on attending the week-long Quartzfest 2010 hamfest
(http://www.quartzfest.org) near Quartzsite, Arizona next week? I'll be
there Jan 15-23. If any other sat operators plan to be there maybe we could
meet up. I know there's usually a good turn-out from W6-land.
I'll be operating the FM birds from DM23vn throughout next week. If anyone
needs that grid square and works me just an email to 'my call' at amsat.org
and I'll mail you a QSL card if you're in my log.
Tom, K?TW
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:38:42 -0500
From: <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and CAT control
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I have a weird one. I'm trying to help another ham out.
He has an FT-847 running SatPC32. He's trying to get Doppler correction
working.
SatPC32ISS works fine. The radio tunes as it should.
SatPC32 does not tune. When he hits C+, the radio will go into Sat mode and
preset the freqs, but when the satellite is in view, the radio doesn't tune.
He can manually tune the radio with the up/dwn button on screen.
Ideas?
73,
Mike, N1JEZ
AMSAT 29649
"A closed mouth gathers no feet"
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:44:31 -0600
From: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT817 and SatPc32
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hello to all
I am running SatPc32 ver 12.8a and a FT817ND(vhf) and a FT897D(uhf)
It all works fine until I go to Sat HO-68,every time I go to that ast it
shuts off my FT817nd
Has anyone else had this problem
Its almost like it is getting the cat command to shut off
Below is my doppler settings from the sqf file that iI have put in.
HO-68,435765,145925,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Xponder
HO-68,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Rptr
HO-68,435790,145910,USB,LSB.REV,0,0,CWbcn
Thanx to all
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:02:45 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT817 and SatPc32
To: "'Howard Kowall'" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>, "'amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <19634148F5784A4EA9E1D1D3167E66EA@xxxxxx>
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Howard,
There is a typo in the last line:
LSB.REV >> LSB,REV
I don't know in detail how SATPC32 parses the Doppler file. This probably
isn't the source of your problem, but it needs fixing. Then restart SATPC32
with your fingers crossed. ;)
Does it matter if you rearrange the 3 lines so the default mode changes?
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Howard Kowall
Sent: 11 January, 2010 17:45
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT817 and SatPc32
Hello to all
I am running SatPc32 ver 12.8a and a FT817ND(vhf) and a FT897D(uhf)
It all works fine until I go to Sat HO-68,every time I go to that ast it
shuts off my FT817nd
Has anyone else had this problem
Its almost like it is getting the cat command to shut off
Below is my doppler settings from the sqf file that iI have put in.
HO-68,435765,145925,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Xponder
HO-68,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Rptr
HO-68,435790,145910,USB,LSB.REV,0,0,CWbcn
Thanx to all
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:07:27 -0600
From: "Tim Cunningham" <tim_cunningham@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-33
To: "Amsat-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Drew,
You might check with the SEDS team at the University of Arizona.
It has been a few years since I collected any data from the satellite. At
that time the batteries were not healthily. Thus, the transmitter was not
active all the time. It could go days/weeks before you heard it. I would
have to check my logs, but I am guessing it was the 2003-2004 time frame
when I last actively collected data from it. It was about that time I took
my antennas down.
73's,
Tim - N8DEU
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 4:34 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-33
> Anyone heard the beacon lately? I listened for it today and did not hear
> it. Has anyone heard it lately? If not I'll change it's status on the
> webpage.
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 21:15:51 -0800 (PST)
From: "Patrick STODDARD \(WD9EWK/VA7EWK\)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK at Glendale AZ "WestFest" - report
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi!
Sorry for the delay in posting this report. Between fighting off
a cold and spending much of the weekend at work, I am getting
caught up with things like this.
The WestFest hamfest in Glendale AZ, a west-side suburb of Phoenix,
is the only indoor hamfest in the Phoenix area. Ever since it became
an indoor event, it has been popular. The ThunderBird Amateur Radio
Club, sponsor of this hamfest, has been gracious in providing a free
space for AMSAT at their hamfests for the past few years. I have done
presentations and demonstrations at 3 different club meetings over the
past 3 years, so I looked forward to the hamfest on Saturday morning.
I was still setting up my table when the first AO-51 pass came by in
the 1300 UTC hour, and I was talking to a bunch of hams through the
second AO-51 pass. I did go outside and work the first VO-52 pass to
the east around 1600 UTC. I heard WA4HFN in Tennessee clearly, but
he had issues hearing my callsign. Jim KE4KOL also worked me on that
pass, where I had my FT-817s in a duffel bag to illustrate the
portable nature of my gear.
I was outside for an SO-67 pass after this, but nothing was heard. I
thought that there might have been an issue with my setup, until I saw
KD5QGR's status page and AA5PK's report that he also didn't hear the
satellite. So I went outside to work the SO-50 pass around 1800 UTC,
near the end of the hamfest. This was the most productive pass, and
thanks to all the stations that called me.
I have to tell a quick story... Norm WV7K, a local ham who used to be
very active on the satellites, stopped by my table at the hamfest in
Mesa AZ last month with his son David. David got his license a few
months ago (KF7DRQ), and appeared to be interested in satellites.
Norm still has lots of his satellite gear, but they both were
interested in my demonstrations. We talked a bit at that hamfest,
and I gave them copies of a flyer to get started on the FM satellites.
Fast forward a few weeks to last Saturday, and they were both at this
hamfest. David had an HT, and needed an antenna to try the satellites.
A vendor had Arrow antennas, and Norm had a diplexer at home that could
be used with the dual-band Yagi. They bought the Yagi, saw my SO-50
demonstration at 1800 UTC, and a few hours later David made his first
satellite QSO using his HT and new Yagi on AO-51 with K4YYL in South
Carolina.
I apologize if anyone was looking for me on the passes I did not show
up on. Even with trying for 3 passes and working 2 of them, the
demonstrations were well received. The SO-67 pass where we heard no
downlink signals was also a good time with lots of questions and
answers for the crowd that followed me outside. As always, thanks to
all who called me during those other two passes, especially mentioning
your location along with your callsigns and grids to better illustrate
the coverage of these satellites.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:22:10 -0800
From: "David Wing" <david@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT817 and SatPc32
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Howard Kowall'" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>,
"'amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I rearranged the order of mine...didn't seem to have an adverse effect.
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:03 PM
To: 'Howard Kowall'; 'amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT817 and SatPc32
Howard,
There is a typo in the last line:
LSB.REV >> LSB,REV
I don't know in detail how SATPC32 parses the Doppler file. This probably
isn't the source of your problem, but it needs fixing. Then restart SATPC32
with your fingers crossed. ;)
Does it matter if you rearrange the 3 lines so the default mode changes?
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Howard Kowall
Sent: 11 January, 2010 17:45
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT817 and SatPc32
Hello to all
I am running SatPc32 ver 12.8a and a FT817ND(vhf) and a FT897D(uhf)
It all works fine until I go to Sat HO-68,every time I go to that ast it
shuts off my FT817nd
Has anyone else had this problem
Its almost like it is getting the cat command to shut off
Below is my doppler settings from the sqf file that iI have put in.
HO-68,435765,145925,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Xponder
HO-68,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Rptr
HO-68,435790,145910,USB,LSB.REV,0,0,CWbcn
Thanx to all
Howard
VE4ISP
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:26:39 +0100
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SatPC32 and CAT control
To: <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Mike,
the automatic Doppler correction of SatPC32 updates the radio frequencies
(only) when the Doppler shift of the higher one of both frequencies has
changed by a certain amount of Hertz (interval).
Your friend may try the following:
a. Select AO-51 as satellite (mode v/u = uplink on VHF, downlink on UHF),
regardless whether it is in range or not.
b. Set the FM interval in menu CAT to - say - 20 (default is 600),
c. Watch the changes of the Doppler shift of the UHF downlink.
d. Whenever the changes exceed 20 the program should update both radio
frequencies.
Does that work?
Control C must be C+, of course.
He should set the CAT baud rate to 57600 in SatPC32 (upper combo box in menu
"Radio Setup") and at the radio (menu #37), the CAT delay should be 20. For
detailed instructions he should read the "Hints for .... Yaesu users". The
text can be displayed from the SatPC32 menu "?", "Hints (Radio) for...."
55 + 73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: <n1jez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 11:38 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 and CAT control
>I have a weird one. I'm trying to help another ham out.
>
> He has an FT-847 running SatPC32. He's trying to get Doppler correction
> working.
>
> SatPC32ISS works fine. The radio tunes as it should.
>
> SatPC32 does not tune. When he hits C+, the radio will go into Sat mode
> and
> preset the freqs, but when the satellite is in view, the radio doesn't
> tune.
>
> He can manually tune the radio with the up/dwn button on screen.
>
> Ideas?
>
> 73,
> Mike, N1JEZ
> AMSAT 29649
> "A closed mouth gathers no feet"
>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 09:52:09 +0100
From: "Erich Eichmann" <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: FT817 and SatPc32
To: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <A79BC9D9D3F44B63999B18887471DB42@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Howard,
I tested that with the FT-817 as "Radio 1" and the FT-847 as "Radio 2" (I
don't have an FT-897).
My settings in menu "Radio Setup":
Radio 1: FT-817
Cat baud rate: 38400
COM port x
CAT delay: 20
Radio 2:
FT-847
CAT baud rate 57400
COM port y
Option "Autom. Rx/Tx change" checked, all other options in the menu
unchecked.
That worked flawlessly, also with HO-68.
The same test with the FT-847 as "Radio 1" and the FT-817 as "Radio 2"
worked also flawlessly.
In menu "Options" I have set the SGP4SDP4 model. The SGP8SDP8 model causes a
math error with HO-68 ("Ungultige Gleitkommaoperation" = "Invalid Floating
Point Error"). The reason: In the Keplerian data sets for HO-68 the value of
the element "bstar drag term" (line #1, col. 54 - 60) is 0. I have fixed
that and there is a patch file on my website, Engl. page "Downloads" ,
"Patches".
73s, Erich, DK1TB
----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Kowall" <hkowall@xxxx.xx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:44 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] FT817 and SatPc32
> Hello to all
> I am running SatPc32 ver 12.8a and a FT817ND(vhf) and a FT897D(uhf)
> It all works fine until I go to Sat HO-68,every time I go to that ast it
> shuts off my FT817nd
> Has anyone else had this problem
> Its almost like it is getting the cat command to shut off
> Below is my doppler settings from the sqf file that iI have put in.
>
> HO-68,435765,145925,USB,LSB,REV,0,0,Xponder
> HO-68,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Rptr
> HO-68,435790,145910,USB,LSB.REV,0,0,CWbcn
>
>
> Thanx to all
> Howard
> VE4ISP
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 05:52:49 -0500
From: myles landstein <myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for Elmer
To: amsat-bb BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <89B55641-3D8C-4951-8AF0-780967A52290@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hi
Just upgraded my station to a full set of movable antennas (m2), 5500, LVB
etc..
Being new I have a bunch of questions now and then , no doubt simple stuff
.,,,
Questions ranging from setting up on MacDoppler to perhaps a few general
question on the birds,,,
Phone is always a option but email is 'ok too' for questions.....
Hoping someone would volunteer to help me with some questions now and
then, by responding directly to me (not the list) .
Thanks
Going to Dayton '10 It will get better with
more support!
Myles D Landstein
N2EHG
myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:47:39 -0500
From: Peter <roi@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Request for Elmer
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001e01ca9385$6e831be0$6901a8c0@xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=Windows-1252
Myles,
I would be happy you help you in your satellite setup and answer your
questions, please send me an e-mail WB2OQQ@xxxxx.xxx and we can arrange a
time to talk.
73,
Pete, WB2OQQ
AMSAT NY Area Coordinator
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 18:29:21 +0200
From: "Gladys Magagula" <gmagagula@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 schedule
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Jan-Albert Koekemoer <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>,
sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx hans@xxxxxxx.xx.xx
Message-ID:
<7D5AF80924991449B40C9CB717C7A6910304B847@xxxx.xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Here are the schedules for tonight and tomorrow morning. The rest will be
published tomorrow.
exUSSR
13/1 5:38
South Asia
13/1 02:44:34
13/1 04:18:08
Australia/NZ
12/1 22:03
USA/Canada
12/1 23:13
13/1 11:55
13/1 15:08
Europe
13/1 08:45
South America
13/1 10:41
13/1 12:14
E-mail Disclaimer
http://www.sunspace.co.za/emaildisclaimer.htm
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