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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-16 intermittent telem (Mark L. Hammond)
2. Mode A tough for me (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
3. Re: UA1OEJ (Bato, Andras)
4. Re: Working my way thru the birds (Elan Portnoy)
5. RS-38? (Elan Portnoy)
6. Re: AO-16 intermittent telem (Bruce Rahn)
7. Re: RS-38? (George Henry)
8. Re: Working my way thru the birds (Andrew Rich)
9. Re: Working my way thru the birds (Andrew Rich)
10. Re: RS-38? (Nico Janssen)
11. Station Integration (Randy Hall)
12. Re: RS-38? (Mike Rupprecht)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 09:21:11 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16 intermittent telem
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hello Auke,
Thank you for your report.
You may remember that the current status of AO-16 is that a hardware
failure causes the satellite to reset itself (which turns off the
transmitter). The issue appears to be related to the internal
temperature of the satellite. When the satellite is in continuous
sunlight (no eclipses), the bird warms up and will support continuous
operations. When the satellite cools down (during periods of
eclipse), it resets itself and turns the transmitter off. Th
satellite is, and will be for the next several years, in an orbit with
substantial eclipses, so the bird is cool and unable to sustain
operations.
What you were hearing was me commanding ON a transmitter in AO-16,
and then hearing it shut itself OFF. The satellite will not turn
itself ON; it has to be commanded ON. Sadly, it will shut itself OFF,
as it has been doing for the last few years. The satellite will stay
up for only a few minutes at best. The duration seems very random,
but it's always short...
When AO-16 is commanded ON, it defaults to the digital mode (1200
BPSK), so you'll hear it "humming". It takes another set of commands
to configure the satellite into voice mode. Often the satellite turns
itself OFF before it can be configured into voice mode...
I do keep testing the satellite every few weeks to see if conditions
have improved or if the satellite has changed in such a way that would
result in its continuous operation during orbits that include
eclipses. So, if you are near the east coast of the US, you might
"catch" me testing out the bird and hear it turned OFF and ON. To this
point, nothing has changed for the better. We can keep hoping :) It
will something like 10 years before the orbit of AO-16 will have no
eclipses...
73,
Mark Hammond, N8MH
AO-16 command station
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AO-16 intermittent telem
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Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-16 intermittent telem
From: "Auke de Jong, VE6PWN" <sparkycivic@xxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2009 16:37:09 -0700
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Hello All,
Today I noticed AO-16 buzzing over NA this afternoon, with it's signal
abruptly
cutting off, and later back on a few times for several minutes, as it
aproached
the North Pole.
I've no idea of the signifigance, if any that this behaviour indicates about
it's declining health... or perhaps a command station was working with it at
the time?
73'
Auke de Jong
VE6PWN
DO33go
Edmonton, AB
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:36:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Mode A tough for me
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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This last AO-7 Mode A pass at 1412utc wasnt too successful for me. Heard a
couple of weak CW signals and I think Glenn AA5PK answered my CQ, but heard
him for just a second, when the bird was off the tip of Baja, and that was
it. I could just barely hear my own signal coming back to me. My G5RV
antenna isnt the best for 10 meters, and that isnt saying too much either.
When the weather gets better, I will make up a wire turnstile dipole of
sorts and see how that hears.
John W6ZKH
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 14:43:36 -0000
From: "Bato, Andras" <bato@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: UA1OEJ
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Patrick,
My note is addressed to everyone over the rainbow, i.e. in Canada, Alaska
and th Northern USA,
I very often call CQ W VE when on AO7 -usually in CW. Why CW? Because CW is
made for DX!
In other words real dx can made in DX only.
I usually get no reply.
What happened to telegraphers there?
I can hear myself well when AO-7 is above Greenland!
Then the footprint of AO-7 buries the Whole Northern part af the American
continent!
It would be a real pleasure to hear answers to my CQ calls!
By the way, there are many other stations have been trying this from the
neighboring countries. (There are great many around us.)
hny de ha6nn
Andras
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:04:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Elan Portnoy <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working my way thru the birds
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Really great! Thanks for building this. I was thinking it would be a great
thing to have.
Wish list:
1) Sort by callsign as well as bird. This way I can see what my reports were
in one chunk. Maybe break apart call and location?
2) Add field for grid.
Thanks! I really like it.
Elan - WB2IOL
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
> Using my new sat_reporter
> page???
>
> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 08:06:19 -0800 (PST)
From: Elan Portnoy <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS-38?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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I seem to have trouble finding data on this bird. Can someone point me to
keps, etc. so I can load her into SatPC?
Thanks,
Elan - WB2IOL
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
> Using my new sat_reporter
> page???
>
> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 11:13:23 -0500
From: Bruce Rahn <brahn@xxx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-16 intermittent telem
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> I do keep testing the satellite every few weeks to see if conditions
> have improved or if the satellite has changed in such a way that would
> result in its continuous operation during orbits that include
> eclipses.
Mark,
Be careful, you might break something :)
Happy New Year!
Bruce, WB9ANQ
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Wisdom has two parts:
1. having a lot to say; and
2. not saying it!
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:36:34 -0600
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RS-38?
To: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <9E16347065254ACBB2DC82C30E123EF7@xxxxxxx>
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You can find it listed as UGATUSAT... it is object #35869 in the
Science.txt file from Celestrak
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, January 01, 2010 10:06 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] RS-38?
I seem to have trouble finding data on this bird. Can someone point me to
keps, etc. so I can load her into SatPC?
Thanks,
Elan - WB2IOL
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
> Using my new sat_reporter
> page
>
> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 03:05:41 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working my way thru the birds
To: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <A937182D3D564DC084F5871ADD447E6D@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Keep the suggestions coming
I learnt to do this a while back when I was learning PHP and MySQL
I will make it so you can click on the column header to sort.
The default will be obvoiusly time.
I have been meaning to split call and country
Grid - is that like QG63 ? what is the format ?
Andrew VK4TEC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:04 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working my way thru the birds
Really great! Thanks for building this. I was thinking it would be a great
thing to have.
Wish list:
1) Sort by callsign as well as bird. This way I can see what my reports were
in one chunk. Maybe break apart call and location?
2) Add field for grid.
Thanks! I really like it.
Elan - WB2IOL
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
> Using my new sat_reporter
> page
>
> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> _______________________________________________
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> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 2010 03:15:38 +1000
From: "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working my way thru the birds
To: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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I have to re-name a field , i used a reserved word "from" silly me
Andrew
I am adding a change log as well
----- Original Message -----
From: "Elan Portnoy" <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 2:04 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Working my way thru the birds
Really great! Thanks for building this. I was thinking it would be a great
thing to have.
Wish list:
1) Sort by callsign as well as bird. This way I can see what my reports were
in one chunk. Maybe break apart call and location?
2) Add field for grid.
Thanks! I really like it.
Elan - WB2IOL
--- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
> Using my new sat_reporter
> page
>
> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 2010 18:40:07 +0100
From: Nico Janssen <hamsat@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RS-38?
To: Elan Portnoy <elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Elan,
RS38 is the satellite Universitetsky 2 alias Tatiana 2, that was
launched on September 17 from Baikonur, together with Ugatusat.
Initially it identified itself as 'RS28'. But reports from Moscow
called it 'RS38'. Now the satellite also has started to identify
as 'RS38'.
A couple of weeks after launch the kepler sets were mixed up.
Initially RS38 was 35868, 2009-049D. But now RS38 is 35869,
2009-049E. (Probably Ugatusat is now 35868.)
RS38 can transmit CW and various digital modes on a number of
frequencies between 435.260 and 435.490 MHz. The digital modes
are probably only active when the satellite is within range of
the command station in Russia. The CW telemetry recently showed
up mostly on 435.490 MHz.
Happy new year.
73,
Nico PA0DLO
Elan Portnoy wrote:
> I seem to have trouble finding data on this bird. Can someone point me to
keps, etc. so I can load her into SatPC?
>
> Thanks,
> Elan - WB2IOL
>
> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
>> Using my new sat_reporter
>> page
>>
>> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>>
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
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>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 10:08:01 -0500
From: Randy Hall <listk7age@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Station Integration
To: AMSAT BBS <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
I am looking to get my station automated again. Years ago I was running
WISP, FT-736, Yaesu Az-El rotor and TAPR Trackbox. It was a really cool
system watching it completely automate the message transfers to the
satellites. Then came along the internet..........
I now use Orbitron and a TS-2000. Still have the same rotor. The TrackBox is
sitting in the garage, but could be brought back to life. I never changed
the proms for Y2K!!!
So, what is the current equipment being used to tie the tracking software to
control the rotor and radio these days?
I am not tied to Orbitron or the Trackbox, if I need to get something else
more up to date that is fine.
Thoughts about integrating my station together again?
Randy
K7AGE
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2010 19:39:06 +0100
From: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: RS-38?
To: "'Nico Janssen'" <hamsat@xxxxxx.xx>, "'Elan Portnoy'"
<elanportnoy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <001801ca8b11$b379f6a0$1a6de3e0$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Nico,
Happy New Year! How did you know about that?
The received CW telemetry on 435.490 MHz belongs to the Object #35869 - this
is UGATUSat. See spacetrack.org:
35869 UGATUSAT 2009-049E CIS 2009-09-17 TTMTR
101.27 98.78 823 815 0.3263
Telemetry :
rs38 ubs202 uab188 ibs16 iab149 isp38 tab157 tsep146 tuf0 tbi167 tspa162
tspb255 mcon69 sma116 smb104 mra11 mrb14
rs38 ubs205 uab191 ibs16 iab154 isp42 tab157 tsep146 tuf0 tbi167 tspa178
tspb255 mcon69 sma110 smb105 mra11 mrb14
The Object #35868 is TATIANA 2 (aka Universitetsky 2) and is sending CW
telemetry with RS28.
rs28 ubs157 uaba159 uabb159 ibs5 iaba125 iabb125 ispa0 ispb125 taba129
tabb126 tsep131 mcon69 sma153 smb135 mra6 mrb30
rs28 ubs162 uaba173 uabb169 ibs4 iaba133 iabb134 ispa1 ispb133 taba129
tabb126 tsep131 mcon69 sma151 smb135 mra6 mrb30
Both satellites are more than 12 minutes apart!
73, Mike
DK3WN
-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx Im
Auftrag von Nico Janssen
Gesendet: Freitag, 1. Januar 2010 18:40
An: Elan Portnoy
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: RS-38?
Elan,
RS38 is the satellite Universitetsky 2 alias Tatiana 2, that was
launched on September 17 from Baikonur, together with Ugatusat.
Initially it identified itself as 'RS28'. But reports from Moscow
called it 'RS38'. Now the satellite also has started to identify
as 'RS38'.
A couple of weeks after launch the kepler sets were mixed up.
Initially RS38 was 35868, 2009-049D. But now RS38 is 35869,
2009-049E. (Probably Ugatusat is now 35868.)
RS38 can transmit CW and various digital modes on a number of
frequencies between 435.260 and 435.490 MHz. The digital modes
are probably only active when the satellite is within range of
the command station in Russia. The CW telemetry recently showed
up mostly on 435.490 MHz.
Happy new year.
73,
Nico PA0DLO
Elan Portnoy wrote:
> I seem to have trouble finding data on this bird. Can someone point me to
keps, etc. so I can load her into SatPC?
>
> Thanks,
> Elan - WB2IOL
>
> --- On Thu, 12/31/09, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Working my way thru the birds
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Date: Thursday, December 31, 2009, 5:58 AM
>> Using my new sat_reporter
>> page
>>
>> http://vk4tec.no-ip.org/sat_report/
>>
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
>> Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur
>> satellite program!
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>>
>
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