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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: HO-68 first QSO over Europe (Mateusz)
   2.  Installing/running WISP in Vista 64 bit problem (Alan P. Biddle)
   3.  HO-68 (changing modes, commands) (PY2ZX)
   4. Re: HO-68 first QSO over Europe (?. ?afet??p?????)
   5. Re: HO-68 (changing modes, commands) (Alan Kung)
   6. Re: nova (Steve)
   7.  Another Bradford DUH! Moment (Clint Bradford)
   8.  Emailing: wisp32, icom 821h,	kansas city tracker_tuner setup
      (Bruce R Brown)
   9.  wisp32, ic-821h and kct/t setup ?? (Bruce R Brown)
  10. Re: Eagle & P3E status? (John B. Stephensen)
  11. Re: Eagle & P3E status? (Bob McGwier)
  12.  RS-30 TELEM Date: 22-12-2009  Time: 16:47:37 UTC
      (CA3SOC Raul Romero)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:30:01 +0100
From: "Mateusz" <sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 first QSO over Europe
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <7B5FAC24EE2A4FAFA899614E51F5B14E@xx>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "?. ?????????????" <ekaf@xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 first QSO over Europe


> Dear friends,
> HO-68 over Europe is a reality, but with some degree of frustation. I
> heard the bird at 10 degrees (loc KM17), I called and I made two QSO's
> with RZ6MB and Nikolay, UR5BFX, with excellent signals. May be these are
> the first QSOs over Europe with the new chinese bird.
----------------

sorry we were faster :)
http://www.enduro.idl.pl/audio_sat/first_qso_xw1_18_12_2009_europe.mp3



But when the satellite reached an elevation of 30 degrees, I was not able to
enter the uplink channel. I heard some calls from Nikolay, and a couple of
minutes later I heard HB9OAB calling and calling through the wlole pass, but
I was not able to enter the repeater. I suspect that many station were
trying to enter, but the only station heard was HB9OAB with a strong signal.
Do you have any explanation?
> Any way I thank our chinese colleagues for this Chrismas present and I
> hope to enjoy the next passes,
> 73 de SV1EEK
--------------------

I looks like lower sensitivity of the sat receiver or very big troposferic
scatter of transmitted signals in 2m band (?)

Matt SQ7DQX



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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:54:15 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Installing/running WISP in Vista 64 bit problem
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <8AAD45334C5D45079D9DEF6EA6619BAE@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hi,

I got this question, and not having a 64 bit OS, don't have a solid answer.
PKWARE is still around, and does have according to their web site a 64 bit
version, though it may not be freeware.  Any help I can pass on about
whether there is a way to do this, and particularly whether WISP will run at
all on a 64 bit machine?

Alan
WA4SCA



>I have been unable to install WISP on my "Vista
>64bit"  computer.  It keeps looking for a file it can't find. I think it is

>PKUNZIP. EXE.
>PKZIP & PKUNZIP have been around for a long time.  I guess they don't work
>on the 64bit OS.




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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 13:06:49 -0200
From: PY2ZX <py2zx.ham@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  HO-68 (changing modes, commands)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: hearsat@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B30E089.7070805@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hello,

On the weekend, during one of the XW-1/HO-68 passes schedulle for change
the "beacon/TLM only" to "beacon/TLM + FM repeater" mode, It was clear
the temporarily interruption of TLM data flow for their quickly return
from the beggining of the TLM frame with new status, exactly on the time
combined. So CE3RR was well heard in FM downlink.

My neophyte question is: The satellite was over Chile that time. Do we
need an earth ground station in South America, inside the footprint of
the satellite, to send the operational changing command to the bird for
HO-68 real time answer to the request or only the Chinese controler sent
the command, for satellite store the information and, at appropriated
time, far way from Asian footprint, HO-68 active the ordered?

Flavio PY2ZX






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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:17:53 +0200
From: "?. ?afet??p?????" <ekaf@xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 first QSO over Europe
To: "Mateusz" <sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <90B7FE8746AE40F99BC7169213C57302@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi Matt and all

Thank you for your reply and correction of my 'arrogant' post.
I do not think that was a problem of tropospheric scatter, since HB9OAB was
heard during the whole pass. May be, as OZ1MY has pointed out, there were
100's of station trying to enter and the receiver could not demodulate any
of them. At low elevation, when in the footprint were only Greece, Italy and
Ucraine, QSOs were made easily and with strong signals.

We look forward for the next passes to understand the problem.

Marry Christmas to all and my best wishes for a happy and fruitful new year.

73 de Evan, SV1EEK

----- Original Message -----
From: "Mateusz" <sq7dqx@xxxxxx.xxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:30 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 first QSO over Europe


>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "?. ?????????????" <ekaf@xx.xx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 9:05 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 first QSO over Europe
>
>
>> Dear friends,
>> HO-68 over Europe is a reality, but with some degree of frustation. I
>> heard the bird at 10 degrees (loc KM17), I called and I made two QSO's
>> with RZ6MB and Nikolay, UR5BFX, with excellent signals. May be these are
>> the first QSOs over Europe with the new chinese bird.
> ----------------
>
> sorry we were faster :)
> http://www.enduro.idl.pl/audio_sat/first_qso_xw1_18_12_2009_europe.mp3
>
>
>
> But when the satellite reached an elevation of 30 degrees, I was not able
> to
> enter the uplink channel. I heard some calls from Nikolay, and a couple of
> minutes later I heard HB9OAB calling and calling through the wlole pass,
> but
> I was not able to enter the repeater. I suspect that many station were
> trying to enter, but the only station heard was HB9OAB with a strong
> signal.
> Do you have any explanation?
>> Any way I thank our chinese colleagues for this Chrismas present and I
>> hope to enjoy the next passes,
>> 73 de SV1EEK
> --------------------
>
> I looks like lower sensitivity of the sat receiver or very big troposferic
> scatter of transmitted signals in 2m band (?)
>
> Matt SQ7DQX
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2009 00:02:35 +0800
From: "Alan Kung" <alankung@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: HO-68 (changing modes, commands)
To: "PY2ZX" <py2zx.ham@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: hearsat@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
Message-ID: <023001ca8320$4021f5c0$6c01a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Flavio,

We upload programm command to the satellite when the satellite pass Chinese
airspace, and then the satellite act the order at appropriated time.

73
Alan, BA1DU

----- Original Message -----
From: "PY2ZX" <py2zx.ham@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: <hearsat@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 11:06 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] HO-68 (changing modes, commands)


> Hello,
>
> On the weekend, during one of the XW-1/HO-68 passes schedulle for change
> the "beacon/TLM only" to "beacon/TLM + FM repeater" mode, It was clear
> the temporarily interruption of TLM data flow for their quickly return
> from the beggining of the TLM frame with new status, exactly on the time
> combined. So CE3RR was well heard in FM downlink.
>
> My neophyte question is: The satellite was over Chile that time. Do we
> need an earth ground station in South America, inside the footprint of
> the satellite, to send the operational changing command to the bird for
> HO-68 real time answer to the request or only the Chinese controler sent
> the command, for satellite store the information and, at appropriated
> time, far way from Asian footprint, HO-68 active the ordered?
>
> Flavio PY2ZX
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:23:33 -0000
From: "Steve" <ai7w@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: nova
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <5F4A96F9AD1F41D6AAF66680260CD2CE@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

Hi Jerry,
Northern Lights Software is still selling Nova so I assume they're still
supporting it.

Northern Lights Software Associates
P.O. Box 321
Jamesville, NY 13078
telephone  : (315) 345-6991
e-mail : nlsa@xxxx.xxx

Steve .. AI7W


----- Original Message -----
From: "Dads" <w0sat@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 05:43 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] nova


>
>          Hi:  I have had Nova   for years and when I put it on my new
> computer
>                I can,t get it to go to the main menu and file to register
> it with my number.
>                I mean my serial number.
>                  Do I have to buy a  new one ????
>                       Jerry w0sat



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 10:13:24 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Another Bradford DUH! Moment
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <568F705A-68DB-4256-9235-3AEA72238D52@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

I am preachin' to the choir here with this post, I am sure. But since
Southern California was under STORMWATCH again last night (we're expecting
at least 0.03" of precipitation), I decided to build one of those cheap
"tape measure 2M Yagi" antennas from plans seen all over the Web.

I mean, I mention them during my satellite presentations as an affordable
entry into high-gain ... I have a couple links on my Work-Sat Web site for
plans ... I can see in theory where they should work - but I've never built
one myself.

So I stuck the PVC pipes together ... soldered the matching element ...
straightened it all out, and took it outside for a test.

OH MY GAWD.

This is something that EVERY ham should do. What a dramatic increase in a
handheld's performance a couple dollars' worth of stuff can accomplish! I
heard a NOAA WX station (technically, out of range for this 2M Yagi) in San
Diego that I have never heard from the house before. Every repeater of the
six I immediately hit were received more clearly than with even the best of
HT antennas ... and as good or better than my Cushcraft A148-3S (retailing
for sixty bucks).

Sorry - have to stop writing. I am way too old to get this excited about
this hobby ...

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com



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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:27:25 -0600
From: "Bruce R Brown" <willmarbrowns@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Emailing: wisp32, icom 821h,	kansas city
tracker_tuner setup
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 12:40:47 -0600
From: "Bruce R Brown" <willmarbrowns@x.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  wisp32, ic-821h and kct/t setup ??
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It's been a long time since i needed help with Wisp setup.
I am trying to setup wisp to work with the icom 821h.
I am using the Kansas City tracker and tuner. The tracker part works ok..the
tuner does not.
The radio is set at 1200baud and address is 4ch.
The kct/t is set for ttl output on port A.
In the station setup under rotators:
radio is ic821
port is A set for 1200,8,n,1
bands are set...rx 144 430...tx 144 430
I did not calibrate the rotors
clicked ok
exit station setup
using ao-51 9k6 at 435.150 for satellite
click on run this pass...screen comes up tnc blinks 3 times,it's good to
go...antennas track ok.
frequencies do not change on the radio.
read the rr.ini file and radio is in sat mode before wisp is run.

Do you have to run "calibrate rotors" in the station setup/rotators box?
Do you have te edit the rr.ini file?

Any suggestions or help appreciated as always



Bruce R Brown   ke0lx

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 19:39:57 -0000
From: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Eagle & P3E status?
To: "KG0MW-Chad Phillips" <kg0mw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4BC697E961F54D568EC3DDE919F1E550@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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There in no launch date for either. There are no more inexpensive launches
available from ESA so the AMSATs are trying to get non-amateur funding to
pay for HEO launches. Assume LEO satellites for the next few years as launch
costs are much lower. CAMSAT just launched one, AMSAT-NA plans on launching
two and there are others in the works.

73

John
KD6OZH

----- Original Message -----
From: "KG0MW-Chad Phillips" <kg0mw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 03:29 UTC
Subject: [amsat-bb] Eagle & P3E status?


> Just wondering if anyone has the thread about the status of P3E and
> Eagle. I have been away for six years and am rebuilding the station
> now. Just trying to figure out what gear to build for what birds.
> Thanks in advance,
> Chad
> kg0mw - EN13
>
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 14:56:41 -0500
From: Bob McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Eagle & P3E status?
To: "John B. Stephensen" <kd6ozh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx KG0MW-Chad Phillips
<kg0mw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B312479.4010303@xxxxx.xxx>
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The front cover of the latest AMSAT-DL Journal shows the internally
nearly complete P3e.  It is truly an international debacle that this
continues to sit in storage in Marburg when there is a plethora of
launch capacity around the world to put this thing up.

We need a low friend in a high place more than ever in our history.

Bob
N4HY




John B. Stephensen wrote:
> There in no launch date for either. There are no more inexpensive launches
> available from ESA so the AMSATs are trying to get non-amateur funding to
> pay for HEO launches. Assume LEO satellites for the next few years as launch
> costs are much lower. CAMSAT just launched one, AMSAT-NA plans on launching
> two and there are others in the works.
>
> 73
>
> John
> KD6OZH
>


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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 16:58:22 -0300
From: "CA3SOC Raul Romero" <ce3soc@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  RS-30 TELEM Date: 22-12-2009  Time: 16:47:37 UTC
To: "Mike Rupprecht" <mail@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <03BB5F193A344A65967E805EAA2A7580@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

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Date: 22-12-2009  Time: 16:47:37

US   161   IBS  11    USUN 0     ISUN 0     ITXA 65    ITXB 66
TTXA 65    TTXB 66    TNAP 80    TAB  66    MSEP 2
MCON 53    SMA  88    SMB  69    MRXA 3     MRXB 2

OnBoard Voltage:                       14,007 V
OnBoard Current:                       0,22 mA
Charge Voltage from Solar battery:     0 V
Charge current from solar battery      0 mA
D.C. current of the 435 MHz TX A:      650 mA
D.C. current of the 145 MHz TX B:      660 mA
Temperature of the 435 MHz TX A:       65 ?C
Temperature of the 145 MHz TX B:       66 ?C

Temperature of the Navigation Unit:    80 ?C
Temperature of onboard battery:        66 ?C
operational Mode of power supply:      2
operational mode of controller:        53
operational mode of channel A:         88
operational mode of channel B:         69
operational mode of RX A:              3
operational mode of RX B:              2





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