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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-51 mode change 20 Dec 2009 (Luc Leblanc)
2. Re: UHF QRM from HAM stations!! (Glen Zook)
3. Re: satpc ?? (Mark Lunday)
4. Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt (Luc Leblanc)
5. Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt (Colin Hurst)
6. Re: XW-1 North America FM 21Dec2009 0205z Audio (Simon HB9DRV)
7. Re: 847 PL problems (Jeff KB2M)
8. Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt (Alan P. Biddle)
9. Correction. XW-1 now HO-68 (Alan P. Biddle)
10. ANS-355 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - XW-1 Designated
Hope OSCAR 68 (JoAnne Maenpaa)
11. Office Closed (Martha)
12. Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC) (PE0SAT)
13. Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC) (Cor)
14. Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC) (Alan P. Biddle)
15. unable to use ho68 in io92bx (paul robinson)
16. Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC) (Eric Knaps, ON4HF)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 19:48:20 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AO-51 mode change 20 Dec 2009
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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On 20 Dec 2009 at 17:50, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 17:50:43 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-51 mode change 20 Dec 2009
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx ao51-modes@xxxxx.xxx
>
> Hi All,
>
> Around 2230UTC 20 Dec 2009 the mode on AO-51 was changed according to the
posted schedule as follows:
>
> December 21 - December 28
>
> FM Repeater, V/U
> Uplink: 145.920 MHz FM
> Downlink: 435.300 MHz FM
>
> 9k6 BBS, L/U
> Uplink: 1268.700 MHz 9k6 FM
> Downlink: 435.150 MHz 9k6 FM
>
>
> The FM Repeater on TXB (435.300) is at about 450mW, while the BBS on TXB
(435.150) is at about 500mW. Signals on both transmitters sounded fine.
The digipeater on TXB is "ON." We are collecting telemetry (every 30 secs)
for the next 24 hours.
>
> Thanks for the S-band activity during the previous mode period!
>
> 73 on behalf the AO-51 Command Team,
>
> Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
>
As per my Listening on AO-51 it seems a magnet reversal will be done pretty
soon to replace AO-51 in his previous attitude feet to head
positioning...
Nat enquirer sources
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 18:33:42 -0800 (PST)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: UHF QRM from HAM stations!!
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx "'Luc Leblanc'" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>,
kc6uqh@xxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <955141.38614.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Technically all 47 CFR Part 15 devices must accept any interference and not
cause any interference. However, in a practical sense, there are so many
433 MHz Part 15 devices around that it would be VERY difficult, if not
practically impossible, to eliminate all of them.
For example: There are hundreds of thousands (and probably millions) of
remote temperature sensors used by homeowners that operate in the 433 MHz
segment. Not that long ago my wife was in the process of purchasing one of
those "atomic clocks" (actually the ones that sync to WWVB) and most of them
have a remote temperature sensor included. I noticed that, depending on the
manufacturer/model, that these remote sensors might operate on the 433 MHz
segment, on the 960 MHz segment, and some on the 1.2 GHz segment. Although
I don't operate on the 23 cm band I do operate on 432 MHz. Therefore, I
made sure that she got a clock with the 960 MHz remote sensor so that there
was no chance of it causing problems to my operations.
However, there are definitely quite a few 433 MHz sensors operating in my
neighborhood, I can hear several as I rotate my 432 MHz yagi. Although I
have lived in this particular house for well over 37 years, I don't believe
that I would be very popular if I even tried to locate all of these 433 MHz
devices and then press the FCC to shut them down. Besides, I don't think
that the FCC would put a very high priority on this particular problem.
As for ISM: 47 CFR Part 18 Section 18.111(c) gives priority to ISM
operations when the operations are within specific frequency segments which
are listed in 47 CFR Part 18 Section 18.301. There are 12 frequency
segments listed in this section. Fortunately, the 70 cm amateur radio band
is not one of these segments.
Glen, K9STH
Website: http://k9sth.com
--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Art McBride <kc6uqh@xxx.xxx> wrote:
In the USA, US Military has priority over all users on the 420-450 MHz band.
Amateur Operators are secondary (cannot cause harmful interference to US
Military. Under the terms of Part 15 all users under Part 15 must accept
harmful interferences and must no cause harmful interference to other users.
BTW: ISM refers to services that do not intentionally radiate and do not use
radiation for communication purposes. A Microwave is ISM. A WiFi is not.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:21:04 -0500
From: "Mark Lunday" <mlunday@xx.xx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: satpc ??
To: "'Bob- W7LRD'" <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <003601ca81f5$02a6d8e0$07f48aa0$@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Das meanst dat du bist nicht finger-gepoken an die computer, und nicht
tinkeren mit die kommunikatorien.
Seriously, it means invalid floating point operation.
Something going on there. What is your OS?
Mark Lunday
WD4ELG
Greensboro, NC - FM06be
wd4elg@xxxx.xxx
http://wd4elg.net
http://wd4elg.blogspot.com
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Bob- W7LRD
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:26 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] satpc ??
I downloaded new keps now I get a box that says," ungultrige
Gleitkommaoperation" marching across the screen that won't stop unless I
restart the computer. Assistance please.
73 Bob W7LRD
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 23:54:50 -0500
From: Luc Leblanc <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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On 20 Dec 2009 at 22:05, Sebastian wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0500
From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
> Luc (VE2DWE) has some magic in his antennas, as I consistently heard him
pretty much all through the pass.
>
John K8YSE wrote: It could have been that the BBS stops the voice
repeater but there were times that VE2DWE was making it (although
noisy) and my signal was not there at all. Maybe the amount of
deviation on the tone makes a difference when there are a lot of
competing signals on the input.
As the bird sank low on the horizon on the way north, it was again
possible to get into it. Normally there are not many who get
into any satellite that is in northern Canada. Less congestion on
the input gives you a better chance.
> I heard Drew mention that perhaps due to the PL tone and the large number
of stations trying to use the repeater, very few stations were able to make
a QSO.
>
>
Three problems: as with AO-51 the CTCSS tone is blocking a lot of station it
was the same when ISS cross band repeater was on too. When XW-
1 was over central USA his footprint was covering nearly all the Northern
continent including central america and the Carribean island with
all the Northern satellite station in the same footprint it should be a
challenge at the satellite receiver to have one station able to
make it through that's the second one and for the third one the packet BBS
also is competing at the receiver and i'm guessing at the
transceiver too as i never heard the packet transmission over a phone
transmission. Without any knowledge of the ways the transmitter is
voting or who's got the priority first it is hard to tell if this packet
turn over is not also a contributing factor as many of my
transmissions where shut down to just get a packet burst afterwards?
I missed the linear transponder but i'm guessing it will be "The mode" on
XW-1 as per what i heard from the recordings.
It is a great sat and as i wrote a nice christmas gift with SO-67 as a
suggestion the FM/BBS mode can be put in service in light traffic
pass as it is permitting less traffic than the linear transponder, but it
can be an alternance of both. Let see what the european pass will
give as the whole europe will be in the same footprint!!!.
For the magic in my antennas there is none that i know but operating in full
duplex is a big help as you can choose when to key the TX but
as we cannot get a constant TX from the satellite we probably often transmit
over each other Letting the receiver only activated by the
carrier will at least make us hear through the capture effect and it will
tell us when it's time to TX? It will not solved the tailgating
problem but it will help.
P.S. There is also a trick on XW-1 as there was one on SO-67 i will have to
check it again but he's not much nicer than the one i discover
on SO-67 fighting against the 3 seconds timer... Just remember i wrote
"fighting"!
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 17:58:35 +1030
From: "Colin Hurst" <cjhurst@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
To: "Luc Leblanc" <lucleblanc6@xxxxxxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <INEGKIBIIECPIBBDGHLEGEMCEGAA.cjhurst@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Luc,
Please look at Mike DK3WN's post to the -bb on 19th December.
The FM and the AFSK Digital are operational at the "same" time.
If you no longer have that mail please listen to the audio at
http://www.dk3wn.info/p/?p=10091
Best regards,
Colin VK5HI.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx
> Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
> Sent: Monday, 21 December 2009 15:25
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Cc: eu-amsat@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
>
>
> On 20 Dec 2009 at 22:05, Sebastian wrote:
>
> Date sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 22:05:48 -0500
> From: Sebastian <w4as@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
> To: AMSAT BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
>
> > Luc (VE2DWE) has some magic in his antennas, as I consistently
> heard him pretty much all through the pass.
> >
>
> John K8YSE wrote: It could have been that the BBS stops the voice
> repeater but there were times that VE2DWE was making it (although
> noisy) and my signal was not there at all. Maybe the amount of
> deviation on the tone makes a difference when there are a lot of
> competing signals on the input.
>
> As the bird sank low on the horizon on the way north, it was again
> possible to get into it. Normally there are not many who get
> into any satellite that is in northern Canada. Less congestion on
> the input gives you a better chance.
>
>
>
> > I heard Drew mention that perhaps due to the PL tone and the
> large number of stations trying to use the repeater, very few
> stations were able to make a QSO.
> >
> >
>
> Three problems: as with AO-51 the CTCSS tone is blocking a lot
> of station it was the same when ISS cross band repeater was on
> too. When XW-
> 1 was over central USA his footprint was covering nearly all the
> Northern continent including central america and the Carribean
> island with
> all the Northern satellite station in the same footprint it
> should be a challenge at the satellite receiver to have one
> station able to
> make it through that's the second one and for the third one the
> packet BBS also is competing at the receiver and i'm guessing at the
> transceiver too as i never heard the packet transmission over a
> phone transmission. Without any knowledge of the ways the transmitter is
> voting or who's got the priority first it is hard to tell if
> this packet turn over is not also a contributing factor as many of my
> transmissions where shut down to just get a packet burst afterwards?
>
> I missed the linear transponder but i'm guessing it will be "The
> mode" on XW-1 as per what i heard from the recordings.
>
> It is a great sat and as i wrote a nice christmas gift with
> SO-67 as a suggestion the FM/BBS mode can be put in service in
> light traffic
> pass as it is permitting less traffic than the linear
> transponder, but it can be an alternance of both. Let see what
> the european pass will
> give as the whole europe will be in the same footprint!!!.
>
> For the magic in my antennas there is none that i know but
> operating in full duplex is a big help as you can choose when to
> key the TX but
> as we cannot get a constant TX from the satellite we probably
> often transmit over each other Letting the receiver only
> activated by the
> carrier will at least make us hear through the capture effect
> and it will tell us when it's time to TX? It will not solved the
> tailgating
> problem but it will help.
>
> P.S. There is also a trick on XW-1 as there was one on SO-67 i
> will have to check it again but he's not much nicer than the one
> i discover
> on SO-67 fighting against the 3 seconds timer... Just remember i
> wrote "fighting"!
>
>
> "-"
>
>
> Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
> Skype VE2DWE
> www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
> DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
> WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 11:04:15 +0100
From: "Simon HB9DRV" <simon@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 North America FM 21Dec2009 0205z Audio
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <016301ca8224$f45b2d10$dd118730$@xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Nice recording although I think I'm hearing 60Hz hum. I shudder the think
what the Europe pass will be like later today. You are very disciplined on
the FM transponder!
Again, many thanks to our friends in China for this excellent Christmas
present.
Simon Brown
http://sdr-radio.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> Behalf Of John Papay
>
> The audio recording of this pass can be downloaded at:
> http://www.papays.com/XW-1_21Dec2009_020500z.mp3
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:47:30 -0500
From: "Jeff KB2M" <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 847 PL problems
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <005101ca823b$c28ca900$47a5fb00$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
This all works now Luc, after I did the reset...
73 Jeff kb2m
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Luc Leblanc
Sent: Sunday, December 20, 2009 4:32 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: 847 PL problems
On 20 Dec 2009 at 12:03, Jeff KB2M wrote:
Date sent: Sun, 20 Dec 2009 12:03:10 -0500
From: Jeff KB2M <kb2m@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 847 PL problems
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Before I try a full reset I
> thought I would ask here, to make sure I'm not missing anything stupid...
>
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
>
>
Do you try manually without any cable connected from a tracking interface to
program another tone pressing menu button selecting menu item
12, then selecting any other tone and exiting pressing the menu button
again. This operation should put the FT-847 in any selected tone and
you just have to press the tone button (3) to enable it.
If it's not working you already have the solution that i used about 3 times
since i got my 847 9 years now.
"-"
Luc Leblanc VE2DWE
Skype VE2DWE
www.qsl.net/ve2dwe
DSTAR urcall VE2DWE
WAC BASIC CW PHONE SATELLITE
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 07:39:35 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
To: "'Andrew Glasbrenner'" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi,
I missed the transponder pass, but managed to catch the FM/BBS pass last
night. As others have said, it was a real kick. I had Wisp running, but
with TX off, and was able to see part of N8MH's connect efforts.
Fortunately the deviation of the packet downlink was not so high that it was
unbearable. Still, at some point I hope they will, at least for a test
period, separate out the voice and packet modes, as well as drop the PL if
possible on the packet.
A great new project. Congratulations to CAMSAT!
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:04:24 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Correction. XW-1 now HO-68
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <B6F88FD55DF24A3C9841FCAD3690F873@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
A minor correction. I see that XW-1 is now officially Hope Oscar 68, HO-68.
Well deserved.
Alan
WA4SCA
-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Alan P. Biddle
Sent: 21 December, 2009 07:40
To: 'Andrew Glasbrenner'
Cc: 'AMSAT BB'
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: XW-1 QSO and packet attempt
Hi,
I missed the transponder pass, but managed to catch the FM/BBS pass last
night. As others have said, it was a real kick. I had Wisp running, but
with TX off, and was able to see part of N8MH's connect efforts.
Fortunately the deviation of the packet downlink was not so high that it was
unbearable. Still, at some point I hope they will, at least for a test
period, separate out the voice and packet modes, as well as drop the PL if
possible on the packet.
A great new project. Congratulations to CAMSAT!
Alan
WA4SCA
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 08:47:15 -0600
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-355 AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin - XW-1
Designated Hope OSCAR 68
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001001ca824c$7e5893a0$7b09bae0$@xxx>
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SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-355.01
ANS Special Bulletin - AMSAT China XW-1 Designated Hope OSCAR 68
AMSAT News Service Special Bulletin 355.01
>From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD.
December 21, 2009
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-355.01
AMSAT-NA OSCAR Number Coordinator Bill Tynan, W3XO has informed Alan
Kung, BA1DU, Amateur Satellite Project Manager and Chief Executive
Officer of AMSAT-China that XW-1 is now designated as Hope OSCAR 68,
or HO-68.
Bill wrote, "The satellite was launched successfully 15 December from
the Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center of China, on a CZ-4C rocket. Ama-
teur Radio Operators around the world have received beacon signals
from XW-1."
Bill continues, "Further, I have been informed that XW-1 has been coor-
dinated through IARU Amateur Satellite Frequency Coordination Panel. As
XW in Chinese means 'hope', it had been requested that this word be used
as the prefix for the new OSCAR number. Therefore, with the above infor-
mation and the authority vested in me by the AMSAT-NA President, I hereby
designate this latest amateur radio satellite as Hope Oscar 68 or HO-68."
Congratulations to AMSAT-China. Bill concludes, "On behalf of AMSAT-NA
and the world's amateur radio satellite community I congratulate those
responsible for building, testing and launching this new satellite. May
it have a long and successful life."
The latest official information can be found on-line on the AMSAT-China
web page at: http://www.camsat.cn/
The AMSAT-NA Satellite Status Web may also be consulted for frequency
and operating mode information at:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/satInfo.php?satID=116&retURL=/sate
llites/status.php
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 10:41:52 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
senior-officers <senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<956751cf0912210741x4dc86ec7g68535b53f4d7ffc6@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
The AMSAT Office will be closed from 2:00 PM Dec 23rd - January 1st, 2010.
I will be back on Monday, January 4th at 10:00 AM ET. Happy New Year!
--
73- Martha
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:06:02 +0100
From: "PE0SAT" <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC)
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20091221190602.C6F7723087@xx.xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
Hi,
I was unable to open the uplink with my Yaesu FT-847. The PL tone was
set 67.0 Hz but unable to open the uplink channel.
During the pass I tryed the following.
- Checked Subtone.SQF file twice SatPC32 (XW-1,67.0,$3F,1)
- Checked Doppler.SQF (XW-1,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Repeater-BBS)
- Restarted SatPC32
- Switched of and on the Yaesu FT-847
- Did a manual setup via menu option 12 for the tone frequentie
- Used FMN on the uplink
Nothing worked :(
There where only three or four stations active during this pass
and that makes me wonder if I was the only one with tone problems?
I did receive some BBS Packets:
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
Maybe beter luck next time
73's PE0SAT
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:24:43 +0100
From: "Cor" <c.wielenga@xxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC)
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <004501ca8273$4017c530$6401a8c0@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
Hello All,
PE0SAT earlier mentioned that he could not work over the XW1 FM repeater.
I noticed the same, I couldn't either via uplink 145.825Mhz (tone 67hz).
Was there something chanced?
Was the freq. and tone (written above) correct?
73's Cor PD0RKC
Hi,
I was unable to open the uplink with my Yaesu FT-847. The PL tone was
set 67.0 Hz but unable to open the uplink channel.
During the pass I tryed the following.
- Checked Subtone.SQF file twice SatPC32 (XW-1,67.0,$3F,1)
- Checked Doppler.SQF (XW-1,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Repeater-BBS)
- Restarted SatPC32
- Switched of and on the Yaesu FT-847
- Did a manual setup via menu option 12 for the tone frequentie
- Used FMN on the uplink
Nothing worked :(
There where only three or four stations active during this pass
and that makes me wonder if I was the only one with tone problems?
I did receive some BBS Packets:
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
Maybe beter luck next time
73's PE0SAT
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:38:19 -0600
From: "Alan P. Biddle" <APBIDDLE@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC)
To: <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Jan,
I had a similar experience. I was able to get in, but not as well as
others. This morning, I put a calibrated service monitor on the rig. The
PL signal looked clean, and was at 700 Hz deviation, as specified in the
service manual. That is slightly higher than the nominal 15% of normal
deviation usually quoted. I don't have a frequency counter of sufficient
accuracy to check the PL tone frequency, but it was obviously close and
switched properly by the software. I get in to SO-50 and SO-67 with no more
trouble than others, as well as the local repeaters with PL access.
Alan
WA4SCA
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Sent: 21 December, 2009 13:06
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC)
Hi,
I was unable to open the uplink with my Yaesu FT-847. The PL tone was
set 67.0 Hz but unable to open the uplink channel.
During the pass I tryed the following.
- Checked Subtone.SQF file twice SatPC32 (XW-1,67.0,$3F,1)
- Checked Doppler.SQF (XW-1,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Repeater-BBS)
- Restarted SatPC32
- Switched of and on the Yaesu FT-847
- Did a manual setup via menu option 12 for the tone frequentie
- Used FMN on the uplink
Nothing worked :(
There where only three or four stations active during this pass
and that makes me wonder if I was the only one with tone problems?
I did receive some BBS Packets:
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
Open BJ1SA-12:0
Maybe beter luck next time
73's PE0SAT
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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 19:47:43 +0000 (GMT)
From: paul robinson <pushbiker2004@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] unable to use ho68 in io92bx
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i was also unable to get an up link sig via the bird,with the published
uplink and ctcss tone.did here one station via the fm repeater ,and did see
some packets....did we have a simular problem with this up link frq on
ao51?? do i remember over europe?
?
id like to thk ho68 team and look forward to the transponder...paul 2e1eub
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Message: 16
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:58:39 +0100
From: "Eric Knaps, ON4HF" <eric.knaps@xxxxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Unable to use HO-68 in JO21 (18:37 UTC)
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Hello,
I had the same problem here on the same pass. Checked everything that
could be checked but nothing from me on the downlink.
Signal was strong.
Audio file is here:
http://www.on4hf.be/HO-68-21dec2009-18u41.wav
Eric Knaps
Waterstraat 30
B-3980 Tessenderlo
Belgium
Tel. +32472985876 (mobile)
http://www.on4hf.be
Cor schreef:
> Hello All,
>
> PE0SAT earlier mentioned that he could not work over the XW1 FM repeater.
> I noticed the same, I couldn't either via uplink 145.825Mhz (tone 67hz).
> Was there something chanced?
> Was the freq. and tone (written above) correct?
>
> 73's Cor PD0RKC
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I was unable to open the uplink with my Yaesu FT-847. The PL tone was
> set 67.0 Hz but unable to open the uplink channel.
>
> During the pass I tryed the following.
>
> - Checked Subtone.SQF file twice SatPC32 (XW-1,67.0,$3F,1)
> - Checked Doppler.SQF (XW-1,435675,145825,FM,FM,NOR,0,0,Repeater-BBS)
> - Restarted SatPC32
> - Switched of and on the Yaesu FT-847
> - Did a manual setup via menu option 12 for the tone frequentie
> - Used FMN on the uplink
>
> Nothing worked :(
>
> There where only three or four stations active during this pass
> and that makes me wonder if I was the only one with tone problems?
>
> I did receive some BBS Packets:
>
> BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
> Open BJ1SA-12:0
>
> BJ1SA-12>BBSTAT>UI,C,F0:
> Open BJ1SA-12:0
>
>
> Maybe beter luck next time
>
> 73's PE0SAT
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