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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Future scheduling of SO-67 (Tony Langdon)
   2.  EL12 - EL02 (Rafael Valdez G.)
   3.  Office Closed (Martha)
   4. Re: Inasat-1 (Dirgantara R)
   5. Re: New Ham antenna to be installed on the ISS Columbus
      module tomorrow (Mani VU2WMY)
   6.  NASA 2 Line via mail? (Rich Dailey (Gmail))
   7. Re: NASA 2 Line via mail? (i8cvs)
   8.  WAV for Satellites. (Vincenzo Mone)
   9.  TF1JI active on AO-51 (Daniel "Nick" Kucij)
  10.  TF3ARI active on VO-52 PLUS N7EDK in DN30 (John Papay)
  11. Re: NASA 2 Line via mail? (Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL)
  12. Re: NASA 2 Line via mail? (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 07:15:35 +1100
From: Tony Langdon <vk3jed@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Future scheduling of SO-67
To: "Jan-Albert Koekemoer" <jan.koekemoer@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: sumbandila@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4b0aed74.1358560a.7cd0.4fb6@xx.xxxxxx.xxx>
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At 11:34 PM 11/23/2009, Jan-Albert Koekemoer wrote:

>In an effort to make this as painless as possible, I would like to request
>comments on the possible use of regional coordinators, which I believe worked
>quite well for SO-35.  Such coordinators would then be responsible for
>setting up schedules in advance for their specific regions, taking into
>account obviously the pool of possible satellite passes, as well as local
>events / fairs etc.  We would then simply load the schedules on a weekly
>basis.

I was the VK/ZL coordinator for SO-35, and drew up the schedule for
the region for over a year.  If I recall correctly, I was the first
of several regional coordinators.

The arrangement worked well, and I formed a close working
relationship with the SO-35 team.  The work wasn't particularly
difficult, and having local knowledge, I could tweak the passes to
suit the needs of the local satellite community.  I also helped the
SO-35 team test different transponder configurations (some worked
better than others), by offering feedback about how well the
different configurations worked, using my setup of known performance.

Based on my experience, I would recommend and encourage the use of
regional coordinators.  It's not a particularly difficult job, it
takes the load off the satellite operators, and it provides a local
point of contact for satellite users to request passes for special
events, or to cover areas that were missed out.

73 de VK3JED / VK3IRL
http://vkradio.com



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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 13:35:22 -0700
From: "Rafael Valdez G." <rafavaldez@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  EL12 - EL02
To: "sat-xe@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx <sat-xe@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <BAY111-W1053EAFFDDD740C6DD9265DB9E0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Hi All,



Today, Ben XE2WK will be travelling to EL12 (Tampico, Tamps). Depending on
his travelling schedule he might show up on the ascending pass of Oscar-51
at 23:38z from either EL12 or EL02.


73 es gl de





Rafael Valdez Jr.
XE2RV @ DM41mh
10-10 52716
VUCC Sat #164

http://sat-xe.blogspot.com


EX-XE2PWF



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2009 16:34:42 -0500
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Office Closed
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>,
senior-officers <senior-officers@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<956751cf0911231334h1fb98139rbf96ef654bd0376a@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

The AMSAT Office will be closed from Wednesday, November 25th - Friday,
November 27th.  We will reopen on Monday, November 30th at 10:00 AM ET.
Happy Thanksgiving!

--
73- Martha


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:50:57 +0700
From: "Dirgantara R" <enggi1401@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Inasat-1
To: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <00ea01ca6c92$6f896220$6501a8c0@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

hi Trevor

thanks for your attention and encourage, Yes the plan a bit delay  but no
problem, the satellite still in progress.

73 de YE0EEE

----- Original Message -----
From: "Trevor ." <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2009 7:58 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Inasat-1


> --- On Fri, 20/11/09, Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> > With an 8 degree inclination, it'll be a big hit between
> > about 25 degrees North and South. Much outside of that and
> > you'll never see it, but it'll be great for them!
>
> Hi Drew,
>
> Yes I know how fustrating it was in pre-ISS days when the Shuttle was
launched into low inclination orbits - little chance of hearing it up in the
northern countries such as the UK. But it should give Amateurs in many
developing countries a chance to to work the sats using simple equipment and
those countries are the future for Amateur Radio.
>
> It's really encouraging to see that the Indonesian national society ORARI
and AMSAT-ID have been so successful in working with their national space
institute. Lets hope they have a successful launch.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
>
>
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:12:09 +0530
From: Mani VU2WMY <wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: New Ham antenna to be installed on the ISS
Columbus module tomorrow
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <20091124101209.19371vv9xnhah5i9@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; DelSp="Yes"; format="flowed"

Congratulations to the entire team!

It's a great pleasure to look at the recognition, honor and privilege
" HAM RADIO" enjoying at the highest level. Sure, this is most
expensive activity ever done for our wonderful hobby.

73 de

Mani, VU2WMY
Secretary & Station-In-Charge
Upagrah Amateur Radio Club VU2URC
ISRO Satellite Centre
Airport Road, Bangalore-560 017.
Phone:(O)91-80-2508 2054/2192/2537
Mobile:  91-80-98803 41456
E-mail ID: wmy@xxxx.xxx.xx
            vu2wmy_mani@xxxxx.xxx
            isrohams@xxxxx.xxx

Quoting Louis McFadin <w5did@xxx.xxx>:

> There hasn't been much said on the various news outlets about the
> second ISS EVA tomorrow morning at 07:30 AM EST 12:30 UTC. During that
> EVA the first task is to install two antennas on the Columbus Module.
> One is for an experiment for the European Space Agency and the other
> is a dual band 2m/70CM antenna for ARISS (Amateur Radio on ISS) very
> similar to the antennas already on the Russian service module.
> If you have any way to watch, I am sure it will be exciting for any
> ham to watch.
> This is an example of what can be achieved by volunteer hams working
> closely with a space agency.
> This antenna project was funded entirely by AMSAT-NA and volunteers
> who built the antennas for both the experiment and for ARISS.
> That's not to take away from the tremendous contribution from ESA for
> the experiment, the launch and the EVA. I have no idea what that cost
> but you can be assured it was a lot more than the cost of the antennas.
>
> Once the antennas are in place we will be working to bring amateur
> radio to the Columbus module.
>
> I am very proud of all the teamwork and effort that has gone into this
> project.
>
>
> Lou McFadin
> W5DID
> ARISS US Hardware manager
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>






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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 04:18:27 -0500
From: "Rich Dailey (Gmail)" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  NASA 2 Line via mail?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.2.20091124034024.02377990@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

An open invitation to the list to assist in jogging this not so young man's
memory... a bit of nostalgic research I'm doing. Thanks in advance for
everyone's
help.

Back what I used to call "not so many" years ago, maybe 1980-1985, I recall
NASA
mailing me 2-line elements for specific satellites I had selected.  These
would come in an
official manilla envelope with an extremely official looking NASA label
affixed to it. I recall
these would arrive in my mailbox every week or so.  Later they dwindled to
perhaps one per month.

At some point, they just stopped mailing them to me. Perhaps I had missed a
reminder to update
my subscription info. I'm assuming more than likely the free service just
became redundant, as BBS systems,
and later internet services began providing them online for free. Not to
mention the Oscar data provided
in the AMSAT Journal.

An aside - you can skip this paragraph if you want me to cut to the quick -
I was living
in an apartment with my then new, now ex, wife. We were the only young
couple in the
complex.  The ladies sitting in the breezeway thought we were gov'mt spies
receiving coded
instructions. They always kept one eye on us as we unlocked our mail slot,
and pulled out one of
these covert communiques. One accidentally was placed in another mail slot
once.  The nice elderly woman
who lived below us returned it to me as I came home from work. She said, "I
think you'll be needing this."
Handed it to me, and hurried back into her apartment.  I tucked it under my
coat, and went upstairs - I knew
there were eyes peering out behind every door. I can't say that I tried to
dispell the myth. My apologies, Ms.
Maxine, in Apt 303... God rest her soul.

Question(s):
* Which NASA office did these originate from?
* When did this service begin/end?
* Could requests be made for any unclassified object in orbit, as long as
the designator was known?

For your eyes only, (ssshhh...)

Rich, N8UX



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:11:13 +0100
From: "i8cvs" <domenico.i8cvs@xxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA 2 Line via mail?
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"Rich Dailey \(Gmail\)"
<redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <001401ca6cee$74455ec0$0201a8c0@xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rich Dailey (Gmail)" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:18 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] NASA 2 Line via mail?


> Back what I used to call "not so many" years ago, maybe 1980-1985, I
recall NASA
> mailing me 2-line elements for specific satellites I had selected.  These
would come in an
> official manilla envelope with an extremely official looking NASA label
affixed to it. I recall
> these would arrive in my mailbox every week or so.  Later they dwindled to
perhaps one per month.
>
> At some point, they just stopped mailing them to me. Perhaps I had missed
a reminder to update
> my subscription info. I'm assuming more than likely the free service just
became redundant, as BBS systems,
> and later internet services began providing them online for free. Not to
mention the Oscar data provided
> in the AMSAT Journal.
> Question(s):

> * Which NASA office did these originate from?
> * When did this service begin/end?
> * Could requests be made for any unclassified object in orbit, as long as
the designator was known?
>
> For your eyes only, (ssshhh...)
>
> Rich, N8UX

Hi Rich, N8UX

Early 1975 and up to 1985 I was receiving as well the keplerian elements by
regular post from NASA but actually things are changed with a more fast
distribution on internet.

You can dowload the 2 line NASA keplerian elements for all satellite you
need from the following site.

http://celestrak.com/

Only for the amateur satellites here

http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt

If you need the amateur satellites keplerian elements sent by email
to your address you can subscribe at no cost to the folloving AMSAT
direction.

http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/keps

73" de

i8CVS Domenico





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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 15:59:14 +0100
From: "Vincenzo Mone" <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  WAV for Satellites.
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
<!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAALgqrd2N1rRAiaQvRd7pgRDCgAAAEAAAAH5YxnQtAERCh4DeHlE2cD
0BAAAAAA==@xxxxx.xx>

Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hit o the list,
anybody can tell me where can I find the wav files for
the satellites to use with the WISP program?
Thanks


73 de Enzo IK8OZV
EasyLog 5 BetaTester
EasyLog PDA BetaTester
WinBollet BetaTester
D.C.I. CheckPoint Regione Campania
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 05:45:26 -0500
From: "Daniel \"Nick\" Kucij" <dnkucij@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  TF1JI active on AO-51
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <45E419FF-FD88-4568-819F-C393D77EA037@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=US-ASCII;	format=flowed;	delsp=yes

Another Icelandic station Jon, TF1JI was active this morning on the
AO-51 pass @xxxxx . He was running 50W into a vertical antenna and had
an excellent signal from Hvolsvollur, in the southern part of the
island.

Nick KB1RVT

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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 11:46:35 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  TF3ARI active on VO-52 PLUS N7EDK in DN30
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <320421.2018.qm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

Ari, TF3ARI, was on VO-52 this morning on the 1428z pass with a
good signal.  Ari is obviously using computer control with his
TS-2000 so when you answer him on his frequency, that's where he
is listening.  His doppler correction was right on.  He reports he
is working on a better receive antenna.  For now he hears well near
the horizon which is perfect for all of us here in the USA.

Another surprise this morning came from DN30.  N7EDK is visiting
his daughter in Eagle Mountain, Utah!  The 1330z AO-51 pass was a
cool (7 degF) so he was just using the HT and a whip antenna.
The pass was nearly overhead for him.  He made several contacts.
He said he would be on the next pass to the west, this time with his
Arrow antenna!  At first the grid didn't click with me; it was before
my first cup of coffee.  Many people do travel around the holidays and
more and more are taking their satellite equipment with them.  Pay
attention and you just might pick up a grid you don't already have!

Thanks to Ari and Ed for their efforts!  Happy Thanksgiving!

73,
John K8YSE



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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 10:15:45 -0700
From: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA 2 Line via mail?
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20091124095912.00c343b0@xxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed

At 04:18 AM 11/24/2009 -0500, "Rich Dailey (Gmail)" <redailey1@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>An open invitation to the list to assist in jogging this not so young man's
>memory... a bit of nostalgic research I'm doing. Thanks in advance for
>everyone's
>help.
>
>Back what I used to call "not so many" years ago, maybe 1980-1985, I
>recall NASA
>mailing me 2-line elements for specific satellites I had selected.  These
>would come in an
>official manilla envelope with an extremely official looking NASA label
>affixed to it. I recall
>these would arrive in my mailbox every week or so.  Later they dwindled to
>perhaps one per month.
>
>At some point, they just stopped mailing them to me. Perhaps I had missed
>a reminder to update
>my subscription info. I'm assuming more than likely the free service just
>became redundant, as BBS systems,
>and later internet services began providing them online for free. Not to
>mention the Oscar data provided
>in the AMSAT Journal.
>
>An aside - you can skip this paragraph if you want me to cut to the quick
>- I was living
>in an apartment with my then new, now ex, wife. We were the only young
>couple in the
>complex.  The ladies sitting in the breezeway thought we were gov'mt spies
>receiving coded
>instructions. They always kept one eye on us as we unlocked our mail slot,
>and pulled out one of
>these covert communiques. One accidentally was placed in another mail slot
>once.  The nice elderly woman
>who lived below us returned it to me as I came home from work. She said,
>"I think you'll be needing this."
>Handed it to me, and hurried back into her apartment.  I tucked it under
>my coat, and went upstairs - I knew
>there were eyes peering out behind every door. I can't say that I tried to
>dispell the myth. My apologies, Ms.
>Maxine, in Apt 303... God rest her soul.
>
>Question(s):
>* Which NASA office did these originate from?
>* When did this service begin/end?
>* Could requests be made for any unclassified object in orbit, as long as
>the designator was known?
>
>For your eyes only, (ssshhh...)
>
>Rich, N8UX


Hi Rich,

I used to get the two line elements sets mailed to me too, and then I would
type them into my tracking program manually.*ugly*

They were mailed from GSFC.  I don't know if they still do mail outs.

When I was able to get them off the internet I had them stop sending me
them by snail mail.

Get on the AMSAT Keps list and you can get them by email.

KB7ADL



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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 2009 18:24:41 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: NASA 2 Line via mail?
To: "Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL" <vlfiscus@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B0C24E9.9010908@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Subscribe to Space-track and you can select which of 14K or so keps you want.

Vince Fiscus, KB7ADL wrote:

> Get on the AMSAT Keps list and you can get them by email.


--
Nigel A. Gunn,  1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA.  tel +1 937
825 5032
Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF),  e-mail nigel@xxxxx.xxx       www 
http://www.ngunn.net
Member of  ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548,  Flying Pigs QRP
Club International #385,
            Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691,  AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS,  ALC,
GCARES, XWARN.



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