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Today's Topics:
1. Grid Expeditions (KK4AK)
2. Re: Grid Expeditions (Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF)
3. Re: PocketSat, RIP ??? (Ronald Nutter)
4. Re: PocketSat, RIP ??? (myles landstein)
5. Re: SO-67 and FT-60R (Jean-Fran?ois M?nard)
6. Re: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such . (Alex, N3SQ)
7. Problem with Basic Stamp based tracker box serial display
(Michael Tondee)
8. Re: PocketSat, RIP ??? (Ronald Nutter)
9. Re: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such .
(Michael Tondee)
10. Re: SO-67 and FT-60R (Clint Bradford)
11. Re: Grid Expeditions (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
12. Fwd: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such . . .
(Samudra Haque N3RDX & S21X)
13. Re: PocketSat, RIP ??? (Greg D.)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:41:22 -0500
From: "KK4AK" <kk4ak@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid Expeditions
To: "AMSAT BB list" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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When attempting to make a contact on the sats one of the customs is to add
"handheld", "portable", etc. to your announced call. Would it make sense to
start a new custom of adding "Roving" or "Grid Expedition" or something
similar when transmitting from a rare grid. This could alert everyone to
let that station have some priority in making contacts during that pass.
Just a thought.
73's Allen
KK4AK
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:38:27 +0000
From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF <nigel@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Grid Expeditions
To: KK4AK <kk4ak@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB list <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B01D463.9010604@xxxxx.xxx>
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Probably not.
Adding some descriptive term to your call is likely to be acted upon only by
those interested in, or with an
understanding of, your term. It just wastes time.
Add "roving" to your call and my response will likely be "so what?"
KK4AK wrote:
> When attempting to make a contact on the sats one of the customs is to add
"handheld", "portable", etc. to your announced call. Would it make sense to
start a new custom of adding "Roving" or "Grid Expedition" or something
similar when transmitting from a rare grid. This could alert everyone to
let that station have some priority in making contacts during that pass.
> Just a thought.
>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:54:11 -0600
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PocketSat, RIP ???
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B01D813.6050606@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Clint:
I am probably the one you are talking about. There appears to be a
misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that with the palm
having been end of lifed by the Palm folks in terms of the PalmOS that
other solutions would have to be sought. Since I seem to be one of the
few that doesnt have an iPhone, I hadnt had the reason to look for that
type of solution and had moved to a netbook as the next best option that
I was able to find.
Ron
Clint Bradford wrote:
> Unfortunately, I heard "one of us" report last week that "PocketSat
> isn't really popular any more, with the demise of the Palm computing
> platform ... "
>
> That's woefully incorrect on many fronts.
>
> Palm users are plentiful, and Jim is still supporting us. PocketSat+
> is still the best Palm-platform satellite tracking software available,
> IMHO. Support still at ...
>
> http://www.bigfattail.com
>
> But Jim has not let his programming skills stagnate. We now have
> PocketSat3 for the Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices. It provides
> gorgeous screen graphics for our passes. Available in the Apple Store.
> Docs and support at Jim's new site at ...
>
> http://www.pocketsat.com/
>
> It works marvelously on my new 32GB iPod touch. AMSAT's keps are one
> of the four default sets for painless download. Recently added is a
> "View Constellation" mode - which overlays your view of the heavens on
> a sat pass.
>
> There are several "satellite trackers" in the Apple Store ... from
> free to $.099 to a few bucks. I have tried five others. NONE of them
> come close to the feature set, ease of use, and product support that
> one receives with PocketSat3.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
> 909-241-7666
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:19:18 -0500
From: myles landstein <myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PocketSat, RIP ???
To: Ronald Nutter <rnutter@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Don't know if anyone will port the app over to the new palm os , but the
Palm Pre for example can run most of the older palm/os apps via an
emulator
On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Ronald Nutter wrote:
> Clint:
>
> I am probably the one you are talking about. There appears to be a
> misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that with the palm
> having been end of lifed by the Palm folks in terms of the PalmOS that
> other solutions would have to be sought. Since I seem to be one of the
> few that doesnt have an iPhone, I hadnt had the reason to look for that
> type of solution and had moved to a netbook as the next best option that
> I was able to find.
>
> Ron
>
> Clint Bradford wrote:
>> Unfortunately, I heard "one of us" report last week that "PocketSat
>> isn't really popular any more, with the demise of the Palm computing
>> platform ... "
>>
>> That's woefully incorrect on many fronts.
>>
>> Palm users are plentiful, and Jim is still supporting us. PocketSat+
>> is still the best Palm-platform satellite tracking software available,
>> IMHO. Support still at ...
>>
>> http://www.bigfattail.com
>>
>> But Jim has not let his programming skills stagnate. We now have
>> PocketSat3 for the Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices. It provides
>> gorgeous screen graphics for our passes. Available in the Apple Store.
>> Docs and support at Jim's new site at ...
>>
>> http://www.pocketsat.com/
>>
>> It works marvelously on my new 32GB iPod touch. AMSAT's keps are one
>> of the four default sets for painless download. Recently added is a
>> "View Constellation" mode - which overlays your view of the heavens on
>> a sat pass.
>>
>> There are several "satellite trackers" in the Apple Store ... from
>> free to $.099 to a few bucks. I have tried five others. NONE of them
>> come close to the feature set, ease of use, and product support that
>> one receives with PocketSat3.
>>
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>> http://www.work-sat.com
>> 909-241-7666
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Myles Landstein
myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx
please note my new email address
dti will soon be eliminated , gmail is my new home update your dir
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:51:00 -0500
From: Jean-Fran?ois M?nard <jf.va2ss@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 and FT-60R
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
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Hi how to program and working easy FM sat, please the wonderful document on
amsat website that give a lot of hint and trick on how to work easy sat like
SO-67 using a HT radio.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/information/faqs/easysat.pdf
This document help me a lot to begin a few years ago using my FT-60R.
73
J-F VA2SS
2009/11/16 Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> ... How do I set my FT-60R up for SO-67?? Its only one freq isn't
> it? -- Jerry - NR5A -
> Jerry - Watch the sat's operating schedule for updates ...
> http://www.amsatsa.org.za/
> This past weekend, they had a cross-band repeater set up for many.
> Uplink: 145.875MHz
> Downlink: 435.345MHz
> CTCSS 233.6
> As with other FM sats, please program to compensate for the Doppler
> effect on the receive side.
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
> _______________________________________________
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--
Jean-Fran?ois M?nard
VA2SS
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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ARRL www.arrl.org
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:51:04 -0500
From: "Alex, N3SQ" <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such
.
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B01E568.9080406@xxxxxx.xxx>
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For those following what was announced at the AMSAT Symposium, there are
two different ways AMSAT is working with the Universities:
(a) AMSAT-NA helps a University Satellite Program: This is the case with
UCF, AMSAT volunteers are helping a University with their satellites.
(b) A University helps the AMSAT-NA Satellite Program: This is the case
with Binghamton University, BU Students are helping build & launch AMSAT
satellites.
The two ways are not mutually exclusive, each has benefits.
The BU activity was organized to help get AMSAT back on it's engineering
feet and to provide continuing assistance. We're doing that by providing
engineering assistance and manpower to help AMSAT launch more modular
design satellites ASAP. We're at 35 students right now, that number can
grow significantly next fall at AMSAT's direction. Our goal is to get an
Engineering model of the NextGen satellite bus ready for the AMSAT booth
at the Dayton Hamvention in May 2010. Engineering model says we have the
modified spaceframe with deployable wings ready, power system ready
(with mock supercaps & solar cells) and the non-flight boards installed
- basically stuffed 'n mounted on a stand for your viewing.
NextGen is an open-source spacecraft bus, it will provide a stable &
robust platform for any university to build an experiment to fit within
the bus.
I would personally advocate AMSAT launching up to two or three of the
NextGen-class spacecraft in different 600-800km, sun-synchronous orbits
to provide as much worldwide coverage as possible. Given the proposed
characteristics of the NextGen spacecraft bus, there is a strong
possibility of carrying an IF Matrix Switch with L/S RF capability
instead of an experiment payload. This would provide capabilities
similar to AO-51 (V/U, V/S, L/U, L/S) but using SDX with an IF Matrix
Switch.
By using Supercapacitors instead of batteries there is a very good
chance of having a significant satellite lifespan (15+ years).
All technology developed can be applied to other classes of AMSAT
spacecraft, just as NextGen is using modules from the ARISSat-class
spacecraft. I would expect that ARISSat-2 will most likely take
advantage of the power system modifications developed for NextGen.
The possibilities are endless, all it takes are more people interested
in working on a module.
Alex, N3NP
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:23:08 -0500
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Problem with Basic Stamp based tracker box serial
display
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B01ECEC.70402@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
I have a a homebrew tracking box designed around a Basic Stamp. It's
known as the SaebrTrack, I built it from an article on the web. The
circuit uses an LED display with a serial "backpack" attached from
Scott Edwards electronics to display the Azimuth and Elevation readings.
The information is fed to it from the Basic Stamp.
Lately the display light will start flickering at times and then the
letters will fade out completely as well. It takes turning the box off
and back on to bring them back up. This seems to be a sporadic
occurrence and can happen when the box is turning the rotators or
sitting idle. There is no rotator control box, the entire operation is
handled by this unit.
I just basically read the schematic and built this thing and then
loaded the Stamp with the software. I'm not well versed in this
technology. Could this be something as simple as voltage regulation?
There is a 12V transformer that runs the DC rotator motors and a
separate 6V transformer that takes care of the display and indicator
lights as well as feeding voltage to the position pots on the rotators.
I believe there is a 7805 regulator in the 6V circuit if memory serves.
Any thoughts or ideas? I've checked for loose connections. Could the
serial backpack display itself be causing this?
Any help would be appreciated. It gets kind of annoying when it happens.
Tnx and 73,
Michael, W4HIJ
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 18:43:36 -0600
From: Ronald Nutter <rnutter@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PocketSat, RIP ???
To: myles landstein <myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B01F1B8.1060302@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Thanks for letting me know about that. From what I had seen of the Pre,
I had the understanding that the Pre wasnt able to run the older apps.
Ron
myles landstein wrote:
> Don't know if anyone will port the app over to the new palm os , but
> the Palm Pre for example can run most of the older palm/os apps via
> an emulator
>
>
>
> On Nov 16, 2009, at 5:54 PM, Ronald Nutter wrote:
>
>> Clint:
>>
>> I am probably the one you are talking about. There appears to be a
>> misunderstanding. What I was trying to say was that with the palm
>> having been end of lifed by the Palm folks in terms of the PalmOS that
>> other solutions would have to be sought. Since I seem to be one of the
>> few that doesnt have an iPhone, I hadnt had the reason to look for that
>> type of solution and had moved to a netbook as the next best option that
>> I was able to find.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>> Clint Bradford wrote:
>>> Unfortunately, I heard "one of us" report last week that "PocketSat
>>> isn't really popular any more, with the demise of the Palm computing
>>> platform ... "
>>>
>>> That's woefully incorrect on many fronts.
>>>
>>> Palm users are plentiful, and Jim is still supporting us. PocketSat+
>>> is still the best Palm-platform satellite tracking software available,
>>> IMHO. Support still at ...
>>>
>>> http://www.bigfattail.com
>>>
>>> But Jim has not let his programming skills stagnate. We now have
>>> PocketSat3 for the Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices. It provides
>>> gorgeous screen graphics for our passes. Available in the Apple Store.
>>> Docs and support at Jim's new site at ...
>>>
>>> http://www.pocketsat.com/
>>>
>>> It works marvelously on my new 32GB iPod touch. AMSAT's keps are one
>>> of the four default sets for painless download. Recently added is a
>>> "View Constellation" mode - which overlays your view of the heavens on
>>> a sat pass.
>>>
>>> There are several "satellite trackers" in the Apple Store ... from
>>> free to $.099 to a few bucks. I have tried five others. NONE of them
>>> come close to the feature set, ease of use, and product support that
>>> one receives with PocketSat3.
>>>
>>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
>>> http://www.work-sat.com
>>> 909-241-7666
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>>> expressed are those of the author.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>> signature database 4610 (20091115) __________
>>>
>>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.
>>>
>>> http://www.eset.com
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>>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>
> Myles Landstein
> myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:myles.landstein@xxxxx.xxx>
> please note my new email address
> dti will soon be eliminated , gmail is my new home update your dir
>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:46:43 -0500
From: Michael Tondee <mat_62@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such .
To: "Alex, N3SQ" <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B01F273.3010008@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Interesting stuff Alex.
I'm currently working on an FM satellite station as that's all I can
afford at present but I hope some of the NextGen birds will carry linear
transponders too. At any rate, it all sounds very exciting.
73,
Michael W4HIJ
Alex, N3SQ wrote:
> For those following what was announced at the AMSAT Symposium, there are
> two different ways AMSAT is working with the Universities:
> (a) AMSAT-NA helps a University Satellite Program: This is the case with
> UCF, AMSAT volunteers are helping a University with their satellites.
> (b) A University helps the AMSAT-NA Satellite Program: This is the case
> with Binghamton University, BU Students are helping build & launch AMSAT
> satellites.
>
> The two ways are not mutually exclusive, each has benefits.
>
> The BU activity was organized to help get AMSAT back on it's engineering
> feet and to provide continuing assistance. We're doing that by providing
> engineering assistance and manpower to help AMSAT launch more modular
> design satellites ASAP. We're at 35 students right now, that number can
> grow significantly next fall at AMSAT's direction. Our goal is to get an
> Engineering model of the NextGen satellite bus ready for the AMSAT booth
> at the Dayton Hamvention in May 2010. Engineering model says we have the
> modified spaceframe with deployable wings ready, power system ready
> (with mock supercaps & solar cells) and the non-flight boards installed
> - basically stuffed 'n mounted on a stand for your viewing.
>
> NextGen is an open-source spacecraft bus, it will provide a stable &
> robust platform for any university to build an experiment to fit within
> the bus.
> I would personally advocate AMSAT launching up to two or three of the
> NextGen-class spacecraft in different 600-800km, sun-synchronous orbits
> to provide as much worldwide coverage as possible. Given the proposed
> characteristics of the NextGen spacecraft bus, there is a strong
> possibility of carrying an IF Matrix Switch with L/S RF capability
> instead of an experiment payload. This would provide capabilities
> similar to AO-51 (V/U, V/S, L/U, L/S) but using SDX with an IF Matrix
> Switch.
>
> By using Supercapacitors instead of batteries there is a very good
> chance of having a significant satellite lifespan (15+ years).
>
> All technology developed can be applied to other classes of AMSAT
> spacecraft, just as NextGen is using modules from the ARISSat-class
> spacecraft. I would expect that ARISSat-2 will most likely take
> advantage of the power system modifications developed for NextGen.
>
> The possibilities are endless, all it takes are more people interested
> in working on a module.
>
> Alex, N3NP
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:58:08 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 and FT-60R
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <A0FDF876-81A5-4D43-AA1F-122222EC4A08@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
>> ... please the wonderful document on amsat website that give a lot
of hint and trick ...
It was that seven-year-old document - in addition to a couple others -
that made me "update" things with the four-page tutorial at ...
http://www.work-sat.com
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
909-241-7666
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 19:45:44 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Grid Expeditions
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<2e18ad3e0911161845i1f3727aav286610b6ca214cb2@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Hi Allen!
> When attempting to make a contact on the sats one of the customs
> is to add "handheld", "portable", etc. to your announced call. Would
> it make sense to start a new custom of adding "Roving" or "Grid
> Expedition" or something similar when transmitting from a rare grid.
In my opinion, this would not make a lot of sense.
Simply identifying your station, along with a brief description of your
location (nearest city/town, county, or something else that does not
take too long to say) along with your grid locator(s) should be enough.
Your location, not the type of station or operation, is what others
need to hear about your activity. Saying "roving", "grid expedition",
or even "handheld" takes up a little more time on a pass without
conveying anything about where you are. If you are required to say
"portable" or some other indicator to comply with the regulations for
your license, by all means do that.
> This could alert everyone to let that station have some priority in
> making contacts during that pass.
Although it would be nice to allow the grid expeditions some priority
during satellite passes, this is - my opinion - an unrealistic expectation.
On AO-51, if arrangements are made in advance, one could get the use
of a transponder like K5D had earlier this year. Otherwise, you take a
chance whenever you go on a grid expedition and work the FM birds.
Not everyone working the FM satellite passes may be interested in the
grid expedition.
If you are working a non-FM satellite like VO-52 or AO-7, you could
pick a clear spot on the passband and stay there throughout a pass.
It would probably be best not to park near the center of the passband,
where many (most) tend to hang out. Move a little lower (for CW) or
higher (for SSB), find a clear spot, and operate there. Take advantage
of the passband and the ability of these satellites to support multiple
simultaneous QSOs.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:07:00 -0500
From: "Samudra Haque N3RDX & S21X" <n3rdx@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers &
Such . . .
To: Amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Alex, N3SQ" <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID:
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Resent from AMSAT address to AMSAT-BB list.. sorry if this is a duplicate
posting. Could someone confirm directly if I posted twice? 73 de N3RDX
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From: Samudra Haque
Date: Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such . . .
To: "Alex, N3SQ" <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Alex et. al, I would like to add in a comment that according to the latest
SBIR release from DoD (many organizations), ITAR compliant persons who are
not US Citizens can also be included in DoD funded commercial research
projects, as long as they are correctly registered and supervised under the
ITAR regulations. This means that if a student from a US university who is
NOT a US Citizen, but rather a US LPR green card holder or beneficiary of a
protected class of visitor able to be employed, can potentially:
* work as a student intern in a commercial company
* work in projects that require ITAR clearance subject to supervision
* work alongside with other US Citizens.
This is pretty good opportunity for all in my opinion. I am sure this would
be the same case for STTR opportunities as well. Some of these projects can
involve aerospace projects, or materials/processes useful for future
aerospace projects.
I quote from the SBIR preface at :
http://www.acq.osd.mil/osbp/sbir/solicitations/sbir101/index.htm
*
Export Control.* The International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR), 22
CFR Parts 120 through 130, and the Export Administration Regulations (EAR),
15 CFR Parts 730 through 799, will apply to all projects with military or
dual-use applications that develop beyond fundamental research, which is
basic and applied research ordinarily published and shared broadly within
the scientific community. More information is available at *
http://www.pmddtc.state.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html*<http://www.pmddtc.stat
e.gov/regulations_laws/itar.html>.
NOTE: Export control compliance statements found in the individual
component proposal instructions are not meant to be all inclusive. They do
not remove any liability from the submitter to comply with applicable ITAR
or EAR export control restrictions or from informing the Government of any
potential export restriction as fundamental research and development efforts
proceed.
Sample text from an SBIR:
The technology within this topic is restricted under the International
Traffic in Arms Regulation (ITAR), which controls the export and import of
defense-related material and services. Offerors must disclose any proposed
use of foreign nationals, their country of origin, and what tasks each would
accomplish in the statement of work in accordance with section 3.5.b.(7) of
the solicitation
I would hope AMSAT-NA would consider teaming with universities to apply for
research grants like these.
-samudra N3RDX
On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 12:35 PM, Alex, N3SQ <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Ladies & Gentlemen,
>
> Here's the main thing to think about ITAR. ITAR regulates OUTFLOW of
> information, it doesn't care about INFLOW of information. If you build
> or design it by a non-US Person (Citizen or Legal Permanent Resident)
> and you bring it INTO the US, ITAR does not care. So AMSAT-NA can use
> designs from P3E, but cannot design parts of P3E.
>
> So the logical thing to do is have all "major" future AMSAT spacecraft
> be AMSAT-NA managed spacecraft with design elements (camera systems,
> experiments, etc.) contributed by other AMSAT organizations. The only
> main technical interaction between the AMSATs would be via a standard,
> open-sourced, well-published-in-technical-journals interface
> specification. Money could be contributed from other AMSATs to fund
> launch & development costs.
>
> As for the mantra of "no one being able to develop the equipment in the
> US" . . . The volunteer base is not capped, just expand the size of the
> volunteer base and organize it better. None of the experienced engineers
> should be directly building hardware, we should all be supervising teams
> of engineering students who actually build the equipment. There are over
> 250 University Engineering programs in the US. Each of those programs
> have at least 50 students in each graduating class. Let's say that we
> can get 15% of the students interested in working on a satellite
> project (my personal observations are more like 75% of the students
> are interested).
>
> Let's do the Math:
> Worse Case: 250 Schools x 50 students per graduating class x 15% = 1875
> POTENTIALLY INTERESTED STUDENTS IN THE US
> Best Case: 250 Schools x 50 students per graduating class x 75% = 9375
> POTENTIALLY INTERESTED STUDENTS IN THE US
> And this is just talking about COLLEGE SENIORS - EE's, ME's, CE's, CS's,
> SE's . . . double the number if you include the Juniors.
>
> Anywhere near this load of students would completely overload the
> current AMSAT-NA volunteer base. But talk about the potentially
> available volunteer base!
>
> With Binghamton University, I had 7 Hardware Engineering slots available
> on the team. There are 200 Hardware Engineers in the BU graduating class
> - about 168 of the students wanted to be on the Satellite Project Team,
> a 24x over-subscription. That's pretty impressive. I could have had more
> teams, but we need to crawl, the walk, then run with this activity -
> EVOLUTIONARY not REVOLUTIONARY (but let's just make sure evolution works
> quickly . . .)
>
> The current BU student team is "stoked", they are really excited to be
> working the project. Every week I get thanked by the students for
> bringing the project to their attention. They have done some really
> great work and they have a great faculty advisor, Dr. Roger Westgate. I
> expect that there will be more than 1 project team next year working on
> an AMSAT satellite, assuming AMSAT is interested in sponsoring more.
>
> So stop crying into your beer over ITAR. The world is not coming to an
> end. Let's work to launch spacecraft within the ITAR limits.
> In the meantime, let the AMSAT-NA BoD navigate it's way through the
> byzantine structure of the US Govt to try to bring about change in ITAR.
>
> Alex Harvilchuck, N3NP
>
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:07:11 -0800
From: "Greg D." <ko6th_greg@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: PocketSat, RIP ???
To: <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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PocketSat+ also runs very nicely in the Garnet Virtual Machine on my Nokia
N810 (better, actually, than on my Palm!). My only concern is the longevity
of the Garnet VM; it's supposed to "expire" in a couple of weeks, and their
website has no update posted. (Not to steal the thread, but anyone know
what they're up to?)
Great satellite program for the one-handed-computing format.
Greg KO6TH
> From: clintbradford@xxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:06:05 -0800
> Subject: [amsat-bb] PocketSat, RIP ???
>
> Unfortunately, I heard "one of us" report last week that "PocketSat
> isn't really popular any more, with the demise of the Palm computing
> platform ... "
>
> That's woefully incorrect on many fronts.
>
> Palm users are plentiful, and Jim is still supporting us. PocketSat+
> is still the best Palm-platform satellite tracking software available,
> IMHO. Support still at ...
>
> http://www.bigfattail.com
>
> But Jim has not let his programming skills stagnate. We now have
> PocketSat3 for the Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices. It provides
> gorgeous screen graphics for our passes. Available in the Apple Store.
> Docs and support at Jim's new site at ...
>
> http://www.pocketsat.com/
>
> It works marvelously on my new 32GB iPod touch. AMSAT's keps are one
> of the four default sets for painless download. Recently added is a
> "View Constellation" mode - which overlays your view of the heavens on
> a sat pass.
>
> There are several "satellite trackers" in the Apple Store ... from
> free to $.099 to a few bucks. I have tried five others. NONE of them
> come close to the feature set, ease of use, and product support that
> one receives with PocketSat3.
>
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS
> http://www.work-sat.com
> 909-241-7666
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