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Today's Topics:

   1.  736 R (Jerry)
   2. Re: W6FOG (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   3.  EM08 Kansas Contacts (David Wing)
   4. Re: W6FOG (w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxxx
   5. Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!! (Peter Scheller)
   6. Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!! (Larry Teran)
   7. Re: Top 250 Grid Survey - Results (Jeff Yanko)
   8. Re: Top 250 Grid Survey - Results (Jeff Yanko)
   9.  AO-51 is now in 38k4 BBS and Telemetry (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  10.  SO-67 (Louis House)
  11. Re: SO-67 and FT-60R (Clint Bradford)
  12.  AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such . . . (Alex, N3SQ)
  13.  PocketSat, RIP ??? (Clint Bradford)
  14.  Top 250 Grid Survey - Results (Clary, James T, Civilian)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:41:48 -0600
From: "Jerry" <W0SAT@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  736 R
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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                   Hi : I  have a  Yaesu  FT-736 R All Mode in like new
codition.

                          This unit has recently been checked out with new
tone  board.

                        It cost over $370.00 total with labor.

                         I  want to sell this unit so I can buy another
rig..

                        I,m asking  $600.00 plus shipping costs.

                              W0sat@xxx.xxx



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:23:52 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6FOG
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
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Hi Tim!

W6FOG was on SO-50 around 0035 UTC this evening.  He is in
the harbor at San Luis Obispo CA (grid CM95), has been there
since Friday, and said he needed to make repairs so he can use
his 100-watt radio (he mentioned it was getting its electrical ground
through the coax cable).  He mentioned seas had been rough, and
there were two storms coming his way.  He did not mention when
he would leave San Luis Obispo.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:02:03 -0800
From: "David Wing" <david@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  EM08 Kansas Contacts
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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If you worked me this past weekend while I was portable in EM08 and would
like a QSL card, please drop me an e-mail.



I don't need QSL cards for any of the contacts.



73, David



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:03:00 +0000 (UTC)
From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6FOG
To: Tim Goodrich <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Talking with him the past few days, he's stuck in The Port of Avila, near
San Luis Obispo, CA due to weather and heavy seas. Hasnt made much progress
in his adventure. Has no idea when he'll start out again.

John W6ZKH

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Goodrich" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:30:40 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: W6FOG

He must be busy, I heard him QSOing with someone on 20 meters this
afternoon.

Tim
KI6VBY

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bennett [mailto:jlb3nn@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 9:26 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] W6FOG

I recently made contact with W6FOG on Grid CM95 on VO-52. It was a low pass
for me, 11 degrees, so we didn't QSO much. He said he would try on the next
AO-51 pass.



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:32 -1000
From: Peter Scheller <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Tim KI6VBY and Tim N3TL,



Congratulations to your accomplishments with "Flee Power".

Yes, it demonstrates what can be done with extreme little RF,

but it does not mean that you "own" the frequency, and all

others have to vacate. I have nothing against QRP, but under

the circumstances of a "chaos" as you describe it, you are as guilty

as everyone else to contribute to the "chaos", even so by using QRP.

Good operating practices require you to listen for a clear frequency

BEFORE transmitting. Thus, if the frequency is clear and you transmit,

some not so considerate operator stomps all over you, is shameful,

REGARDLESS of power level. Sadly, it is all to apparent that the practice

of listening first has been abandoned by yelling first, and if that does not

help, poor on the coals. If you can identify inconsiderate operators, it

might be helpful to bring the same to his or her attention, in a nice way,

for it might have happened un intentional. QRP or "Monster Stations" are

governed by the same rules. "Communications shall be conducted with the

lowest power level necessary". That does not necessarily mean QRP.

However who wants to use a shotgun to kill a fly? Think about it.



Best 73,

Peter, NH6VB




> From: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:30:40 -0800
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
>
> Maybe this should be a lesson for all those monster stations that like to
> stomp all over everyone- satellite and HF included......
>
> Tim
> KI6VBY (exclusively QRP)
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim - N3TL [mailto:n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:22 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
>
> My profound thanks to John. K8YSE, for posting the recordings he's made of
> SO-67 passes over North America. His most recent recording, which he began
> at 15:00:38 UTC, provides proof that - even amid the chaos of a pass like
> that one - very low power levels can work our amateur satellites. Anyone who
> listens to the recording will hear the weak-signal call of N3TL at 8:51 into
> the recording. I'm faint, but I'm in there ... on 50mW (.05 watt) from my
> Yaesu VX-7R HT and Elk dual-band log periodic antenna.
>
> KI0G surprised the heck out of me when I heard him call me several seconds
> later. When he did, I thought, "He must be calling me blind. There's no way
> I made it through on 50 milliwatts." No matter - I spent the rest of the
> pass transmitting QSLs for our contact, but K8YSE's recording shows that I
> didn't make it back into the satellite before he (K8YSE) left the footprint.
> If someone farther south has a recording that includes me QSLing Bob, KI0G,
> by all means please email me a copy.
>
> My signal made it into SO-67 beginning at 15:09:29 UTC and ending at
> 15:09:30 UTC. According to Orbitron, SO-67 was pretty much right at the
> intersection of 30 degrees north x 90 degrees west, or right on top of the
> 4-grid boundary of EM40, EM50, EL49, EL59. She was at a range of 882.050
> kilometers (548.0805 miles) to my handheld station in EM84 at 15:09:30
> UTC. Based on those distances, my power level translates to 17,641
> kilometers (10,961.61 miles) per watt. Given how busy SO-67 has been over
> North America the past two weekends, I'll take that!
>
> During that pass, I tried to time my transmissions based on Mr. Cresswell's
> posts to the BB on 14 November about the two passes he worked and observed
> that day over New Zealand. Specifically, I listened for people to
> immediately return calls, then have their signal drop out when the
> satellite's tail dropped out. When that happened, I transmitted - and on at
> least one occasion that K8YSE captured in his recording, flea power found
> its way to our newest amateur satellite.
>
> Thank you, everyone at AMSAT-SA, for building, launching and orbiting SO-67.
> She is a wonderful addition to the fleet, and one I'm proud to have worked
> on .05-watt.
>
> 73 to all,
>
> Tim - N3TL
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 22:50:41 -0800
From: Larry Teran <satvader@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
To: <nh6vb@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W558548054C2677BFC0F55FCDA50@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"


Tim article about working on flea power on SO-67 is at QRZ.COM front page,
take a look and leave a comment for him!!!!

> From: nh6vb@xxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 19:24:32 -1000
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
>
>
>
> Hi Tim KI6VBY and Tim N3TL,
>
>
>
> Congratulations to your accomplishments with "Flee Power".
>
> Yes, it demonstrates what can be done with extreme little RF,
>
> but it does not mean that you "own" the frequency, and all
>
> others have to vacate. I have nothing against QRP, but under
>
> the circumstances of a "chaos" as you describe it, you are as guilty
>
> as everyone else to contribute to the "chaos", even so by using QRP.
>
> Good operating practices require you to listen for a clear frequency
>
> BEFORE transmitting. Thus, if the frequency is clear and you transmit,
>
> some not so considerate operator stomps all over you, is shameful,
>
> REGARDLESS of power level. Sadly, it is all to apparent that the practice
>
> of listening first has been abandoned by yelling first, and if that does not
>
> help, poor on the coals. If you can identify inconsiderate operators, it
>
> might be helpful to bring the same to his or her attention, in a nice way,
>
> for it might have happened un intentional. QRP or "Monster Stations" are
>
> governed by the same rules. "Communications shall be conducted with the
>
> lowest power level necessary". That does not necessarily mean QRP.
>
> However who wants to use a shotgun to kill a fly? Think about it.
>
>
>
> Best 73,
>
> Peter, NH6VB
>
>
>
>
> > From: tim@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Date: Sun, 15 Nov 2009 18:30:40 -0800
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
> >
> > Maybe this should be a lesson for all those monster stations that like to
> > stomp all over everyone- satellite and HF included......
> >
> > Tim
> > KI6VBY (exclusively QRP)
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tim - N3TL [mailto:n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
> > Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 8:22 AM
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] SO-67 on Flea Power!!!!
> >
> > My profound thanks to John. K8YSE, for posting the recordings he's made of
> > SO-67 passes over North America. His most recent recording, which he began
> > at 15:00:38 UTC, provides proof that - even amid the chaos of a pass like
> > that one - very low power levels can work our amateur satellites. Anyone
who
> > listens to the recording will hear the weak-signal call of N3TL at 8:51
into
> > the recording. I'm faint, but I'm in there ... on 50mW (.05 watt) from my
> > Yaesu VX-7R HT and Elk dual-band log periodic antenna.
> >
> > KI0G surprised the heck out of me when I heard him call me several seconds
> > later. When he did, I thought, "He must be calling me blind. There's no
way
> > I made it through on 50 milliwatts." No matter - I spent the rest of the
> > pass transmitting QSLs for our contact, but K8YSE's recording shows that I
> > didn't make it back into the satellite before he (K8YSE) left the
footprint.
> > If someone farther south has a recording that includes me QSLing Bob,
KI0G,
> > by all means please email me a copy.
> >
> > My signal made it into SO-67 beginning at 15:09:29 UTC and ending at
> > 15:09:30 UTC. According to Orbitron, SO-67 was pretty much right at the
> > intersection of 30 degrees north x 90 degrees west, or right on top of the
> > 4-grid boundary of EM40, EM50, EL49, EL59. She was at a range of 882.050
> > kilometers (548.0805 miles) to my handheld station in EM84 at 15:09:30
> > UTC. Based on those distances, my power level translates to 17,641
> > kilometers (10,961.61 miles) per watt. Given how busy SO-67 has been over
> > North America the past two weekends, I'll take that!
> >
> > During that pass, I tried to time my transmissions based on Mr.
Cresswell's
> > posts to the BB on 14 November about the two passes he worked and observed
> > that day over New Zealand. Specifically, I listened for people to
> > immediately return calls, then have their signal drop out when the
> > satellite's tail dropped out. When that happened, I transmitted - and on
at
> > least one occasion that K8YSE captured in his recording, flea power found
> > its way to our newest amateur satellite.
> >
> > Thank you, everyone at AMSAT-SA, for building, launching and orbiting
SO-67.
> > She is a wonderful addition to the fleet, and one I'm proud to have worked
> > on .05-watt.
> >
> > 73 to all,
> >
> > Tim - N3TL
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:02:19 -0800
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Top 250 Grid Survey - Results
To: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <EED83CCF1F1F446B8310960C61C681C5@xxxxxxxx>
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Hi Rick and the group,

Your welcome!  I figured this would be the best way to get a rough idea of
what grids are being searched for by people who have been working the birds
for some time.  At least it's a baseline and something to build on for the
future.  This data can be used for those who travel, for business or so,
plan a trip to a relative or vacation, or the GriDXpeditioners.

Your view about  "why am I standing out in the dark waging this antenna and
can't even hear a complete call" is thought provoking.  The simple answer is
no matter who's out there providing  new grid or new state, we all enjoy and
share the same thing together.  Chances are if you knew there would be
nobody on the birds, would you bother doing it?  No.  However, you know that
there will be people on the birds and you know your going to get calls,
albeit, through a lot of confusion!  So we keep doing the same thing because
basically we enjoy it.  Sure, there are times we all get frustrated and
angry but that shouldn't stop us from enjoying it, it's just another
challange to overcome.

I've copied a number of "fresh" calls over the past couple of weeks, and
they also provided many with new grids, and I'm glad to see more trying out
the birds.  These people will experience the same thing that all of us do on
the same passes of the birds.  They will question themselves on why they are
doing this as well with the intent of either sticking with it or letting it
go to the wayside.  We all have to be there to help them along so they
understand that each pass can beexciting or a surprise waiting to happen.

The two best examples that happened to me was when I wasn't sure if I wanted
to work a pass before heading off to work.  I decided in favor to work it.
What happens?  Patrick, WD9EWK, decides to drive to Delaware, unannounced if
I recall correctly, to not only activate a rare state, but a new grid for
many as well!  Second example.  I was working AO-51 one evening pass, made a
couple basic QSOs then out of the blue VE8EV calls me!  We exchanged info
and a mini pileup ensued.

In any case, let's just keep having fun and doing the best we can with what
we have.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick - WA4NVM" <wa4nvm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>; <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 4:21 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Results


>
> Jeff,
>
> Thanks for the hard work gathering all the information.  Now, if we can
> get some "roadtrip warriors" to work these grids and the opportunity to
> get into the birds, (hint) we can all make use of your list.  I hope I
> didn't ruffle any feathers, but sometimes an operator can't help but
> wonder, "why am I standing out in the dark waging this antenna and
> can't even hear a complete call".
>
> Since we have a lot of new operators, please help support AMSAT-NA
> and the other organizations to get more birds launched.  More birds =
> more minutes to work a bird, I hope less congestion if the future.
>
> 73 to all,
> Rick - WA4NVM
>
>
>
>
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I want to thank all of those who took the time out to contribute their
>> grid
>> data so I could try to compose a list of the most wanted, or needed, grid
>> squares via the satellites for the continental United States with some
>> Canadian and Mexico grids thrown in as well.  I initially started out
>> with
>> the total
>> 250, 10 grid fields times the 25 most needed grid squares per field,
>> hence
>> 250.  I should've taken into account that grid fields like CM and FM
>> aren't
>> fully
>> land mass enough to give a full 25 grids so it looks like the 250 will
>> become the top 230.  In any case, the data was very useful and
>> informative.
>> I believe many will see what grids are outstanding in need of activation.
>>
>> Since I did not receive any more entries since Thursday, 11/12, I already
>> had a running tally of the totals as I was receiving them and was waiting
>> for more to come in by the deadline of 11/14.  None did, so I was able to
>> cap this project about a day ahead of schedule.  I hope everybody enjoys
>> the
>> data and can possibly use it in the future if they plan on traveling,
>> visting relatives, or just going on a GridDXpedition.
>>
>> I broke down the grid fields by the most votes then proceeded to
>> seperately
>> post the grid squares of each field by their votes, highest to lowest.
>> The
>> layout is rather long but since this is just basic data I wanted to keep
>> it
>> simple and left justified to keep it clear.  Printing it out may make it
>> easier to read or comprehend since you won't be looking at just a portion
>> of
>> the data on the screen but a print out on paper layed out on the table.
>>
>> If you have a questions, comments or just plain curious, please feel free
>> to
>> drop me an e-mail.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Jeff  WB3JFS
>> Las Vegas, NV
>> DM26
>>
>>
>>
>> GRID FIELD TALLY:
>>
>> DN - 469
>> EN - 322
>> DM - 308
>> EM - 213
>> EL - 173
>> CN - 172
>> FN - 127
>> DL - 90
>> FM - 63
>> CM - 39
>>
>>
>>
>> ///CN///
>>
>> 9 VOTES
>> CN70
>> CN72
>> CN73
>> CN98
>>
>> 8 VOTES
>> CN71
>> CN77
>> CN78
>> CN90
>> CN91
>> CN93
>> CN96
>>
>> 7 VOTES
>> CN74
>> CN80
>> CN81
>> CN82
>> CN92
>> CN99
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> CN94
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> CN75
>> CN83
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> CN76
>> CN95
>> CN97
>>
>> 2 VOTES
>> CN85
>> CN86
>>
>>
>>
>> ///DN///
>>
>> 10 VOTES
>> DN02
>>
>> 9 VOTES
>> DN03
>> DN10
>> DN37
>>
>> 8 VOTES
>> DN04
>> DN12
>> DN21
>> DN75
>>
>> 7 VOTES
>> DN05
>> DN11
>> DN24
>> DN60
>> DN62
>> DN67
>> DN68
>> DN73
>> DN77
>> DN78
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> DN07
>> DN19
>> DN20
>> DN25
>> DN28
>> DN29
>> DN34
>>
>>
>>
>> ///EN///
>>
>> 8 VOTES
>> EN48
>>
>> 7 VOTES
>> EN08
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> EN01
>> EN02
>> EN10
>> EN12
>> EN13
>> EN17
>> EN24
>> EN36
>> EN46
>> EN47
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> EN03
>> EN05
>> EN07
>> EN16
>> EN33
>> EN40
>> EN49
>> EN58
>> EN66
>> EN67
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> EN09
>> EN15
>>
>>
>>
>> ///FN///
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> FN24
>> FN55
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> FN06
>> FN14
>> FN17
>> FN23
>> FN27
>> FN28
>> FN37
>> FN38
>> FN45
>> FN48
>> FN53
>> FN56
>> FN64
>>
>> 2 VOTES
>> FN02
>> FN05
>> FN07
>> FN08
>> FN09
>> FN11
>> FN12
>> FN15
>> FN16
>> FN19
>>
>>
>>
>> ///CM///
>>
>> 8 VOTES
>> CM89
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> CM94
>> CM95
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> CM86
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> CM79
>> CM93
>> CM96
>> CM99
>>
>> 2 VOTES
>> CM88
>> CM98
>>
>> 1 VOTE
>> CM97
>>
>>
>>
>> ///DM///
>>
>> 10 VOTES
>> DM 28
>> DM29
>>
>> 9 VOTES
>> DM17
>> DM18
>>
>> 8 VOTES
>> DM16
>> DM83
>>
>> 7 VOTES
>> DM27
>> DM71
>> DM77
>> DM81
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> DM60
>> DM64
>> DM70
>> DM82
>> DM88
>> DM89
>> DM93
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> DM07
>> DM19
>> DM50
>> DM67
>> DM68
>> DM74
>> DM76
>> DM84
>>
>>
>>
>> ///EM///
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> EM33
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> EM03
>> EM23
>> EM62
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> EM16
>> EM21
>> EM47
>> EM50
>> EM53
>> EM59
>> EM81
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> EM00
>> EM02
>> EM06
>> EM07
>> EM08
>> EM19
>> EM20
>> EM22
>> EM24
>> EM41
>> EM43
>> EM52
>> EM61
>> EM71
>>
>>
>>
>> ///FM///
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> FM08
>> FM26
>> FM27
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> FM02
>> FM03
>> FM13
>> FM15
>> FM16
>> FM25
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> FM04
>> FM05
>> FM06
>> FM14
>> FM17
>>
>> 2 VOTES
>> FM07
>> FM09
>> FM18
>>
>> 1 VOTE
>> FM19
>> FM39
>>
>>
>>
>> ///DL///
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> DL79
>> DL88
>> DL89
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> DL59
>> DL69
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> DL29
>> DL39
>> DL58
>> DL66
>> DL67
>> DL98
>>
>> 2 VOTES
>> DL27
>> DL36
>> DL37
>> DL38
>> DL43
>> DL45
>> DL46
>> DL48
>> DL53
>> DL56
>> DL57
>> DL65
>> DL68
>>
>>
>>
>> ///EL///
>>
>> 11 VOTES
>> EL08
>>
>> 7 VOTES
>> EL17
>> EL49
>>
>> 6 VOTES
>> EL07
>> EL16
>> EL18
>> EL59
>>
>> 5 VOTES
>> EL06
>> EL09
>> EL19
>> EL39
>>
>> 4 VOTES
>> EL00
>> EL10
>> EL11
>> EL14
>> EL15
>> EL28
>> EL89
>> EL94
>>
>> 3 VOTES
>> EL04
>> EL13
>> EL40
>> EL41
>> EL84
>> EL86
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:11:06 -0800
From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: Top 250 Grid Survey - Results
To: <w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <05F9153ECDD64DD8B41EC1C125ED469E@xxxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Hi John and the group,

Your welcome and I'm glad you like the compilation.  Just don't tell the XYL
why your taking her on a second vacation. :)

I will have to second your motion about working portable stations, HT
stations or new operator to show their effort wasn't in vein.  I would also
like to suggest for those who do, or plan to, operate from rare grids to
make a post to the -bb here so those who might need it can be aware of the
fact your going to be there operating.  Sometimes schedules don't always
mesh but at least there was the effort.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS



  ----- Original Message -----
  From: w6zkh@xxxxxxx.xxx
  To: Jeff Yanko
  Cc: amsat-bb
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:04 AM
  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Top 250 Grid Survey - Results


  Jeff, thanks for all your efforts in compiling all this data.  I am sure
it will give me some more ideas on where to drag the xyl for vacation again,
like this year.

  I agree in Rick's (WA4NVM) saying what it is to be out "wagging" that yagi
in the dark.  Anytime you hear a Portable or Handheld station, please make
an effort to contact, as it could be a rare grid or a new op.

  John W6ZKH

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
  To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
  Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 3:26:04 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: [amsat-bb]  Top 250 Grid Survey - Results

  Hi all,

  I want to thank all of those who took the time out to contribute their grid
  data so I could try to compose a list of the most wanted, or needed, grid
  squares via the satellites for the continental United States with some
  Canadian and Mexico grids thrown in as well.  I initially started out with
  the total
  250, 10 grid fields times the 25 most needed grid squares per field, hence
  250.  I should've taken into account that grid fields like CM and FM aren't
  fully
  land mass enough to give a full 25 grids so it looks like the 250 will
  become the top 230.  In any case, the data was very useful and informative.
  I believe many will see what grids are outstanding in need of activation.

  Since I did not receive any more entries since Thursday, 11/12, I already
  had a running tally of the totals as I was receiving them and was waiting
  for more to come in by the deadline of 11/14.  None did, so I was able to
  cap this project about a day ahead of schedule.  I hope everybody enjoys the
  data and can possibly use it in the future if they plan on traveling,
  visting relatives, or just going on a GridDXpedition.

  I broke down the grid fields by the most votes then proceeded to seperately
  post the grid squares of each field by their votes, highest to lowest.  The
  layout is rather long but since this is just basic data I wanted to keep it
  simple and left justified to keep it clear.  Printing it out may make it
  easier to read or comprehend since you won't be looking at just a portion of
  the data on the screen but a print out on paper layed out on the table.

  If you have a questions, comments or just plain curious, please feel free to
  drop me an e-mail.

  73,

  Jeff  WB3JFS
  Las Vegas, NV
  DM26



  GRID FIELD TALLY:

  DN - 469
  EN - 322
  DM - 308
  EM - 213
  EL - 173
  CN - 172
  FN - 127
  DL - 90
  FM - 63
  CM - 39



  ///CN///

  9 VOTES
  CN70
  CN72
  CN73
  CN98

  8 VOTES
  CN71
  CN77
  CN78
  CN90
  CN91
  CN93
  CN96

  7 VOTES
  CN74
  CN80
  CN81
  CN82
  CN92
  CN99

  6 VOTES
  CN94

  5 VOTES
  CN75
  CN83

  4 VOTES
  CN76
  CN95
  CN97

  2 VOTES
  CN85
  CN86



  ///DN///

  10 VOTES
  DN02

  9 VOTES
  DN03
  DN10
  DN37

  8 VOTES
  DN04
  DN12
  DN21
  DN75

  7 VOTES
  DN05
  DN11
  DN24
  DN60
  DN62
  DN67
  DN68
  DN73
  DN77
  DN78

  6 VOTES
  DN07
  DN19
  DN20
  DN25
  DN28
  DN29
  DN34



  ///EN///

  8 VOTES
  EN48

  7 VOTES
  EN08

  6 VOTES
  EN01
  EN02
  EN10
  EN12
  EN13
  EN17
  EN24
  EN36
  EN46
  EN47

  5 VOTES
  EN03
  EN05
  EN07
  EN16
  EN33
  EN40
  EN49
  EN58
  EN66
  EN67

  4 VOTES
  EN09
  EN15



  ///FN///

  5 VOTES
  FN24
  FN55

  3 VOTES
  FN06
  FN14
  FN17
  FN23
  FN27
  FN28
  FN37
  FN38
  FN45
  FN48
  FN53
  FN56
  FN64

  2 VOTES
  FN02
  FN05
  FN07
  FN08
  FN09
  FN11
  FN12
  FN15
  FN16
  FN19



  ///CM///

  8 VOTES
  CM89

  5 VOTES
  CM94
  CM95

  4 VOTES
  CM86

  3 VOTES
  CM79
  CM93
  CM96
  CM99

  2 VOTES
  CM88
  CM98

  1 VOTE
  CM97



  ///DM///

  10 VOTES
  DM 28
  DM29

  9 VOTES
  DM17
  DM18

  8 VOTES
  DM16
  DM83

  7 VOTES
  DM27
  DM71
  DM77
  DM81

  6 VOTES
  DM60
  DM64
  DM70
  DM82
  DM88
  DM89
  DM93

  5 VOTES
  DM07
  DM19
  DM50
  DM67
  DM68
  DM74
  DM76
  DM84



  ///EM///

  6 VOTES
  EM33

  5 VOTES
  EM03
  EM23
  EM62

  4 VOTES
  EM16
  EM21
  EM47
  EM50
  EM53
  EM59
  EM81

  3 VOTES
  EM00
  EM02
  EM06
  EM07
  EM08
  EM19
  EM20
  EM22
  EM24
  EM41
  EM43
  EM52
  EM61
  EM71



  ///FM///

  5 VOTES
  FM08
  FM26
  FM27

  4 VOTES
  FM02
  FM03
  FM13
  FM15
  FM16
  FM25

  3 VOTES
  FM04
  FM05
  FM06
  FM14
  FM17

  2 VOTES
  FM07
  FM09
  FM18

  1 VOTE
  FM19
  FM39



  ///DL///

  5 VOTES
  DL79
  DL88
  DL89

  4 VOTES
  DL59
  DL69

  3 VOTES
  DL29
  DL39
  DL58
  DL66
  DL67
  DL98

  2 VOTES
  DL27
  DL36
  DL37
  DL38
  DL43
  DL45
  DL46
  DL48
  DL53
  DL56
  DL57
  DL65
  DL68



  ///EL///

  11 VOTES
  EL08

  7 VOTES
  EL17
  EL49

  6 VOTES
  EL07
  EL16
  EL18
  EL59

  5 VOTES
  EL06
  EL09
  EL19
  EL39

  4 VOTES
  EL00
  EL10
  EL11
  EL14
  EL15
  EL28
  EL89
  EL94

  3 VOTES
  EL04
  EL13
  EL40
  EL41
  EL84
  EL86











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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 05:56:00 -0500
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AO-51 is now in 38k4 BBS and Telemetry
To: Amsat-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, AO51 Modes <ao51-modes@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <4B012FC0.8050109@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

The mode change occurred at about 1045Z 16 November. Power output is
2.14 watts. Uplink to the BBS is 1268.700. Reports and copies of the
latest WOD files are welcome to ko4ma@xxxxx.xxx.

73, Drew KO4MA


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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 02:35:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Louis House <kd5gm@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  SO-67
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <985212.59661.qm@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

How does one add SO-67 to the SatPC32 sqf,files to make the software track
and control the radio for doppler.? I found SO-67 in the Wisat32 and up it
in the available Sats to use and I copy/pasted and edited a file for
this?Sat in the SatPC32 sqf.doppler files and it shows up as avialble and
when I select it the?CAT control shows it active but the frequency on the
radios (857 & 897) are not correct and?the software will no tcontrol the
radios.? What or how much have I missed in the set up??
Louis KD5GM

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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:31:05 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re: SO-67 and FT-60R
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <9F36B977-29CC-43CC-A9DF-352EE2B544A3@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

 >> ... How do I set my FT-60R up for SO-67?? Its only one freq isn't
it? -- Jerry - NR5A -
Jerry - Watch the sat's operating schedule for updates ...
http://www.amsatsa.org.za/
This past weekend, they had a cross-band repeater set up for many.
Uplink:  145.875MHz
Downlink:  435.345MHz
CTCSS 233.6
As with other FM sats, please program to compensate for the Doppler
effect on the receive side.
Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:35:26 -0500
From: "Alex, N3SQ" <amsat@xxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  AMSAT, ITAR, More AMSAT-NA Volunteers & Such . .
.
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Message-ID: <4B018D5E.5000001@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Ladies & Gentlemen,

Here's the main thing to think about ITAR. ITAR regulates OUTFLOW of
information, it doesn't care about INFLOW of information. If you build
or design it by a non-US Person (Citizen or Legal Permanent Resident)
and you bring it INTO the US, ITAR does not care. So AMSAT-NA can use
designs from P3E, but cannot design parts of P3E.

So the logical thing to do is have all "major" future AMSAT spacecraft
be AMSAT-NA managed spacecraft with design elements (camera systems,
experiments, etc.) contributed by other AMSAT organizations. The only
main technical interaction between the AMSATs would be via a standard,
open-sourced, well-published-in-technical-journals interface
specification. Money could be contributed from other AMSATs to fund
launch & development costs.

As for the mantra of "no one being able to develop the equipment in the
US" . . . The volunteer base is not capped, just expand the size of the
volunteer base and organize it better. None of the experienced engineers
should be directly building hardware, we should all be supervising teams
of engineering students who actually build the equipment. There are over
250 University Engineering programs in the US. Each of those programs
have at least 50 students in each graduating class. Let's say that we
can get 15% of the students interested in working on a satellite
project  (my personal observations  are more like 75% of the students
are interested).

Let's do the Math:
Worse Case: 250 Schools x 50 students per graduating class x 15% =  1875
  POTENTIALLY INTERESTED STUDENTS IN THE US
Best Case: 250 Schools x 50 students per graduating class x 75% =  9375
POTENTIALLY INTERESTED STUDENTS IN THE US
And this is just talking about COLLEGE SENIORS - EE's, ME's, CE's, CS's,
SE's . . . double the number if you include the Juniors.

Anywhere near this load of students would completely overload the
current AMSAT-NA volunteer base. But talk about the potentially
available volunteer base!

With Binghamton University, I had 7 Hardware Engineering slots available
on the team. There are 200 Hardware Engineers in the BU graduating class
- about 168 of the students wanted to be on the Satellite Project Team,
a 24x over-subscription. That's pretty impressive. I could have had more
teams, but we need to crawl, the walk, then run with this activity -
EVOLUTIONARY not REVOLUTIONARY (but let's just make sure evolution works
quickly . . .)

The current BU student team is "stoked", they are really excited to be
working the project. Every week I get thanked by the students for
bringing the project to their attention. They have done some really
great work and they have a great faculty advisor, Dr. Roger Westgate. I
expect that there will be more than 1 project team next year working on
an AMSAT satellite, assuming AMSAT is interested in sponsoring more.

So stop crying into your beer over ITAR. The world is not coming to an
end. Let's work to launch spacecraft within the ITAR limits.
In the meantime, let the AMSAT-NA BoD navigate it's way through the
byzantine structure of the US Govt to try to bring about change in ITAR.

Alex Harvilchuck, N3NP



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 10:06:05 -0800
From: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  PocketSat, RIP ???
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Message-ID: <E1680782-3B8C-40BF-BA45-4544E4FB95AE@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes

Unfortunately, I heard "one of us" report last week that "PocketSat
isn't really popular any more, with the demise of the Palm computing
platform ... "

That's woefully incorrect on many fronts.

Palm users are plentiful, and Jim is still supporting us. PocketSat+
is still the best Palm-platform satellite tracking software available,
IMHO. Support still at ...

http://www.bigfattail.com

But Jim has not let his programming skills stagnate. We now have
PocketSat3 for the Apple iPhone and iPod touch devices. It provides
gorgeous screen graphics for our passes. Available in the Apple Store.
Docs and support at Jim's new site at ...

http://www.pocketsat.com/

It works marvelously on my new 32GB iPod touch. AMSAT's keps are one
of the four default sets for painless download. Recently added is a
"View Constellation" mode - which overlays your view of the heavens on
a sat pass.

There are several "satellite trackers" in the Apple Store ... from
free to $.099 to a few bucks. I have tried five others. NONE of them
come close to the feature set, ease of use, and product support that
one receives with PocketSat3.

Clint Bradford, K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
909-241-7666


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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:51:58 -0000
From: "Clary, James T, Civilian" <James.T.Clary.civ@xxx.xxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Top 250 Grid Survey - Results
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: vq9jc@xxxxxx.xx.xxxx n3tl@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx k8yse@xxxxxx.xxx
Message-ID:
<91BA9771DE57884FBCD59E08A62C65A82A2930@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx>

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Tks for collecting and assembling all the data, Jeff.

I've got a trip lined up to Texas in January with DL88 as the primary
target. Your list confirms what I'd already expected to see, and I'll do
what I can to put a dent in those numbers by operating from a bunch of
grids on your list in DL, EL, DM, and EM.

73,

Jim, ND9M / VQ9JC
Diego Garcia, BIOT

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